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samAdhAnaH- ... lekin itanA gurudevakA upadesh milA, svaya.n vichAr kare ki ye kuCh apUrva hai, aisA buddhipUrvak bhI vichArame.n lage to use apragaT hai ki nahI.n, yah vichAranekA yA DhU.nDhanekA koI avakAsh hI nahI.n rahatA hai. apanI buddhime.n aisA AtA ho ki yah kuCh apUrva hai, aisA svaya.nko hR^idayame.n lagatA ho.

mumukShuH- pragaTame.n lagatA ho to phir apragaTame.n hai hI.

samAdhAnaH- apragaTame.n sahaj hI AtA hai.

mumukShuH- kis ... upAdAn ..

samAdhAnaH- upAdAn kAraN hai, dhruv svaya.n upAdAn hai. mUl vastu upAdAn hai. usakA AdhAr dravya kahate hai.n aur aise AdhAr kahate hai.n. guN-paryAyase AtmA pahachAnaneme.n AtA hai. punaH use sAdhan batAyA. Aj pravachaname.n AyA thA. mUl upAdAn to vastu svaya.n hai. lekin ye to usase pahachAname.n AtA hai, paryAy dvArA pahachAname.n AtA hai. dravya aur guN pahachAname.n Ate hai.n. guN dvArA dravya pahachAname.n AtA hai. isaliye use sAdhan kahA. mUl vastu to anAdi ananta shAshvat hai. dravya aur guN dono.n shAshvat hai.

bAharame.n upayog jAtA hai, laukikame.n jAtA hai vahA.N-se thoDA-sA andarame.n jAye. anAdikA jo sa.nskAr hai vahA.N bhAg jAtA hai, yahA.N TikatA nahI.n. isaliye bAra.nbAr- bAra.nbAr usakA vichAr, vA.nchan andar bAra.nbAr dR^iDhatA karatI rahanI. ruchi baDhAnI, satsa.ng ho to satsa.ngase samajhanA. bAra.nbAr karanA. anAdi kAlase mahA mushkilase yah manuShyabhav milatA hai. to yah manuShyabhav to AtmAkA kaise ho, yahA.N AtmAko pahachAnA ho to use bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. bhavakA abhAv nahI.n ho, vah to samyagdarshan prApta ho to hotA hai. parantu usake liye taiyArIme.n jij~nAsA, bhAvanA, AtmAk kaise pahachAname.n Aye, yah sharIr bhinna, AtmA bhinna, dono.n vastu hI bhinna hai.n. dono.n tattva bhinna hI hai.n. lekin use vichAr karake nakkI kare.

andar vikalpa hote hai.n, vah bhI svaya.nkA svabhAv nahI.n hai. usase bhI AtmA bhinna hai. siddha bhagavAn jaisA AtmA j~nAnAnandase bharA koI anupam tattva hai. usakI mahimA


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lAye, bAra.nbAr usakA vichAr kare to hotA hai. bAra.nbAr karanA. andar shubhabhAvame.n dev- guru, jinendra dev, guru aur shAstra (hone chAhiye). a.ntarame.n AtmAko kaise pahachAnu.N? AtmAkI mahimA Aye, AtmA koI apUrva hai, koI anupam hai. aisA usake hR^idayame.n lage to usame.n vichAr Tike. AtmAkI utanI mahimA AyI nahI.n ho, utanI ruchi nahI.n ho, ruchikI mandatA hotI hai, isaliye vahA.N Tik nahI.n sakatA.

kAraN de utanA hI kArya AtA hai. svaya.nkA puruShArtha manda hai isaliye usakA kArya utanA hI Aye. jisakA ugra puruShArtha hai use kArya AtA hai. ananta jIv puruShArtha karake mokSha gaye hai.n, bhedaj~nAn kar-karake gaye hai.n. svaya.nkI svAnubhUti a.ntarame.n AtmAkI pragaT kI hai, puruShArtha dvArA bhedaj~nAn kiyA hai. sharIr bhinna AtmA bhinna, aisA kShaN- kShaName.n jisakI pariNati ho jAye, sahaj ho jAye. ek j~nAyak AtmAkI pariNati.

ye to use ekatvakA abhyAs ho rahA hai. sharIr aur mai.n, dono.n ek hI hai.n, aisA use bhAsit hotA hai. vikalpase bhinna to bhAsit nahI.n hotA, parantu sharIrase bhinna bhAsit nahI.n hotA. aisI ekatvabuddhi (toDaneko) bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs karatA rahe.

mumukShuH- usake liye mAtAjI! svAdhyAy pUrA-pUrA honA chAhiye?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, svAdhyAy honA chAhiye, vichAr hone chAhiye. svAdhyAy kare to usake vichAr Aye ki isame.n kyA AtA hai? ananta jIv yah mArga prApta kar mokSha gaye hai.n. gurudev is pa.nchamakAlame.n (padhAre). bAharame.n sab thoDA kar le to mAno dharma ho gayA, aisA mAnate hai.n. lekin vah to mAtra shubhabhAv hai, puNya bandhatA hai, (usase) devalok mile, usase bhavakA abhAv nahI.n hotA. bhavakA abhAv to AtmAko pahachAne to hotA hai. gurudevane mArga batAyA ki AtmA koI apUrva vastu hai. mArga a.ntarame.n hai, bAharame.n nahI.n hai. isaliye karane jaisA vahI hai. a.ntarame.n kaise pahachAname.n Aye? bAra.nbAr vichAr karanA, bAra.nbAr vA.nchan karanA, nahI.n samajhame.n to kisIko pUChanA, jo samajhate ho use.

mumukShuH- vahA.N abhI bandhakA svarUp chalatA hai. shubhabhAv bhI bAndhatA hai aur ashubhabhAv bhI bAndhatA hai, to pUrA dinA kaun-sA bhAv karanA?

samAdhAnaH- shubhase bhI bandha hai, ashubhase bhI bandhana. us bhAvase bhinna, Atmatattva bhinna hai, us bhinna AtmAko pahachAne to abandha pariNAm hote hai.n. to bandhatA nahI.n hai. sharIr aur AtmAkI ekatvabuddhise bandhA hai. svaya.n aisA mAnatA hai, svaya.nko bhinna nahI.n jAnatA. svaya.nko bhinna jAne aur svaya.nkA bhinna anubhav kare to bandhakA abhAv hotA hai. shubh aur ashubh dono.n bandhan karate hai.n. usame.n ashubhabhAvase bachaneko use shubhabhAv gR^ihasthAshramame.n hote hai.n. lekin vah shubhabhAv manda kaShAy hai, usase puNya bandhatA hai.


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gR^ihasthAshramame.n abhI AtmAko nahI.n pahachAnA, jinendra dev, guru, shAstrakI bhakti Aye, usake vichAr Aye, usakI mahimA Aye, vah bandhan hai, lekin vah Aye binA nahI.n rahatA. jabatak AtmA pahachAnaneme.n nahI.n AtA, tabatak bIchame.n Ate hI hai.n. lekin AtmAko jo bhinna pahachAne, use pahachAnakar AtmAme.n lIn hove to vah bhAv abandhabhAv hai, vah mukta (hotA hai), andarase ChUTatA hai. lekin abhI A.nshikarUpase ChUTatA hai. samyagdR^iShTi hotA hai vah AtmAko pahachAne, vah gR^ihasthAshramame.n ho to use bhI shubhabhAv to AtA hai. jinendra dev, guru, shAstrake vichAr Aye. parantu jaise-jaise Age baDhe aur svaya.n andar AtmAme.n lIn hote jAye, vaise vah shubhabhAv bhI ChUTate jAte hai.n. aisA karate-karate munidashA AtI hai, tab AtmAme.n bahut lIn hote hai.n. kShaN-kShaName.n AtmAme.n lIn hote hai.n. isaliye unhe.n shubhAshubh dono.n bhAv itane kam ho jAte hai.n, aur AtmAme.n lIn ho jAye to vah shubhabhAv ChUT jAte hai.n. AtmAko pahachAnakar AtmAme.n lIn hove to vah shubhAshubh bhAvase rahit hotA hai.

mumukShuH- madhyastha bhAv.. mAtAjI!

samAdhAnaH- shubh aur ashubh dono.n bandhanakA kAraN hai, aisA barAbar jAnanA. suvarNakI beDI aur lohekI beDI dono.n bandhan karatI hai. parantu jabatak AtmAko bhinna nahI.n pahachAnA hai, tabatak svarNa beDIrUp jo shubhabhAv hai, vah bIchame.n Aye binA nahI.n rahate. isaliye vah yadi gR^ihasthAshramame.n shubhame.n nahI.n khaDA rahegA to ashubhame.n chalA jAyegA. to usase to pAp bandhatA hai, usase narak, nigod hotA hai. aur is shubhabhAvase bhavame.n devalok mile yA aisA kuCh hotA hai, lekin vah bhav to prApta hogA hI. shubhabhAvase bhagavAn mile, guru mile parantu bhav to chAlU hI rahe.nge. usase rahit AtmAko pahachAne to bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. isaliye vah to bIchame.n Ate hai.n. lekin usase bhinna AtmAko pahachAnanekA prayatna karanA. kaise pahachAname.n Aye? usakA abhyAs karanA, bAra.nbAr vichAr karanA. usase tIsarA bhAv AtmAko pahachAnanA vah hai.

(AtmAkI) anubhUti ho, usame.n lIn ho jAye, bAharakI kuCh khabar nahI.n rahe, andar aisA lIn ho jAye, vah tIsarA bhAv hai. parantu pahale vah nahI.n ho to usakI shraddhA kare ki in dono.n bhAvase rahit AtmAkA svarUp hai. usase nahI.n ho sake to puruShArtha manda ho to shraddhA to barAbar kare. AchAryadev kahate hai.n, tujhase nahI.n ho sakatA hai to shraddhA barAbar karanA ki ye dono.n bhAv bandhakA kAraN hai. lekin usase bhinna bhAv, jo j~nAyak jAnane vAlA hai, vah mokShakA kAraN hai, aisI shraddhA to barAbar karanA. nahI.n ho sake to shraddhA to barAbar rakhanA. shubhabhAv jo hai vah to bIchame.n Aye.nge. ashubhabhAvase bachaneko vah puNyabhAv bIchame.n Aye.nge. parantu tU shraddhA barAbar rakhanA, nahI.n


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ho to. shraddhAme.n aisA mat karanA ki ye shubhabhAv hai, usase devalok milegA. aisI ichChA mat karanA. bhinna AtmA hai, usakI shraddhA karanA.

mumukShuH- us shraddhAkA phal ..

samAdhAnaH- aisI shraddhA rakhe usame.n jo vikalpa Aye vah shubhabhAv, puNyabandhakA kAraN hai. vikalpa puNyabandhakA kAraN hai. shraddhA to use Age baDhanekA kAraN banatI hai. vikalpa puNyabandhakA kAraN hai.

mumukShuH- is bhavame.n bahut prayatna karaneke bAd bhI, dev-guru-shAstra sabakA yog hai, phir bhI nahI.n ho, jIvakI unnati nahI.n ho to is pariNAmase yahI chIj Tik sakatI hai?

samAdhAnaH- svaya.nkI taiyArI ho to Tik sakatI hai. aise gahare sa.nskAr DAle ki mujhe yahI chAhiye. Upar-Uparase ho to nahI.n rahatA. gahare sa.nskAr ho to TikatA hai. mujhe yahI chAhiye, AtmA hI chAhiye, aur kuCh nahI.n chAhiye. aise gahare sa.nskAr ho to vah dUsare bhavame.n Tikate hai.n. andar gaharAIse (honA chAhiye). svaya.nko andarase ruchi honI chAhiye to TikatA hai. aur vah shubhabhAv bhI aise hote hai.n ki use sAdhan bhI vaise mil jAte hai.n. guru mile, dev mile. gaharI ruchi ho to hotA hai. sa.nskAr gahare hone chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- ... satya to saral aur sugam hai, lekin satya khojaneko charchA, rAg-dveSh Adi samajhaneke liye nahI.n hote hai.n. jij~nAsu ho use samajhaneke liye hote hai.n. tattva kyA hai usakA vichAr, usakI khoj, andarase ma.nthan Adi ho. vichAr, vA.nchan (Adi hote hai.n). tattva samajhaneme.n rAg-dveSh nahI.n hote.

mumukShuH- adhikase adhik sa.ngharSha, satyako samajhanekI yogyatAke liye hai yA kisake liye hai? hamAre jaise bhI..

samAdhAnaH- bAhar to shubh vikalpa Aye isaliye... usake liye sa.ngharShame.n jAnA, aisA kuCh nahI.n hotA. vah to svaya.nko svaya.nkA karanA hai. bAhar to shubh vikalpa Aye. svaya.nko dravya, kShetra, kAl, bhAv (aise) lage to kahe, nahI.n lage to nahI.n kahe. usake liye sa.ngharSha karanA, aisA usakA artha nahI.n hai. vah use rokatA nahI.n. svaya.n vichAr karake a.ntarame.n samajhanA hai.

mumukShuH- satya koI aise prakArase hai ki jise samajhaneke liye bhinna-bhinna manuShyako bhinna-bhinna prakArase satya prApta ho?

samAdhAnaH- bhinna-bhinna prakArase nahI.n. a.ntarame.n to mArga ek hI hai. mArga alag


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nahI.n hai. vichAr kare, vA.nchan kare, svAdhyAy kare. mUl prayojanabhUt tattvako jAnanA chAhiye. adhik jAne isaliye samajhame.n Aye yA adhik paDhe to samajhame.n Aye aisA kuCh nahI.n hai. prayojanabhUt samajhe to AtmAko pahachAne. AtmAke dravya-guN-paryAy kyA hai, parapadArtha kyA hai, vibhAv kyA hai, svabhAv kyA hai, (aisA) prayojanabhUt samajhe to muktikA mArga hotA hai. jyAdA samajhe aur bahut paDhe, aisA koI usakA artha nahI.n hai. bIchame.n ashubhabhAvase bachaneko shubhabhAv Ate hai.n, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, shAstra svAdhyAy Adi hotA hai, tattvakA vichAr hotA hai, prayojanabhUt tattvako jAnaneke liye. visheSh jAne to use j~nAnakI nirmalatA hotI hai, usame.n koI nukasAn nahI.n hai. lekin jyAdA jAne aur jyAdA paDhe to hI hotA hai, aisA usakA artha nahI.n hai.

shivabhUti muni kuCh nahI.n jAnate the. yAd nahI.n rahatA thA. bAI dAl dho rahI thI. ChilakA bhinna aur dAl bhinna, aisA bhinna samajhakar (yAd A gayA ki), mere gurune aisA kahA hai, aisA samajhakar yah AtmA bhinna, sharIr bhinna aur vibhAvasvabhAv merA nahI.n hai, isaprakAr bhedaj~nAn karake a.ntarame.n Utar gaye. j~nAyakako pahachAnakar, bhedaj~nAn karake svarUpame.n lIn ho gaye to unhe.n mArga prApta ho gayA. shreNi lagAkar kevalaj~nAn ho jAye. prayojanabhUt jAne usame.n sab A jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- prayojanabhUtake Upar koI nAm to nahI.n likhA hotA ki yah prayojanabhUt hai. prayojanabhUtako nakkI kaise karanA?

samAdhAnaH- prayojanabhUt-sva-parakA bhedaj~nAn karanA yah prayojanabhUt hai. svaya.nke dravya- guN-paryAy aur anyakA, paradravyakA svabhAv aur svadravyake svabhAvako bhinna karanA, yah prayojanabhUt hai. mUl vastu chaitanyako pahachAnanA. j~nAyak, j~nAyak vastu svabhAvase ek hai. usame.n guN aur paryAy, lakShaNabhedase bhed hai, mUlame.n bhed nahI.n hai. usame.n guN lakShaNase bhinna hai.n. aise dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp pahachAne. usakA pariNaman hotA hai vah paryAy hai. isaprakAr mUl vastuko samajhe. dravya-guN-paryAyako (samajhe), yah sab mUl prayojanabhUt hai.

tattvakI sab bAt samajhe, yah prayojanabhUt hai. mUlabhUt vastu. tirya.nchako nau tattvake nAm bhI nahI.n Ate, to bhI andarame.n mai.n yah hU.N aur yah vibhAv hai (aisA) samajhatA hai. andarame.n sAdhakadashA pragaT hotI hai. use sa.nvar A jAtA hai, Age baDhane par nirjarA hotI hai, sab usame.n A jAtA hai, nAm nahI.n Ate hai.n phir bhI. karmakI sattA kitanI, usakI prakR^iti, usakA kyA, usakA ras kitanA, usakI sthiti kitanI Adi kuCh nahI.n AtA. use devalok kyA, narka kyA, usake bhed, kahA.N-se kahA.N jAtA hai aur kahA.N-se kahA.N jAtA hai, vah sab nahI.n AtA hai. sattA, sthiti, prakR^iti Adi kuCh nahI.n AtA hai. mUl prayojanabhUt tattva bhedaj~nAn AtA hai.


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mumukShuH- paryAy hai. pAriNAmikabhAv hai usame.nse paryAy nikalatI hai, usame.n samAviShTa ho jAtI hai. arthAt kepsul hotI hai, davAI, phir kepsulame.n kuCh nahI.n hotA, lekin jo davAI usame.n bhare, vah kepsul usakI kahI jAtI hai. vaise jo vartamAn-vartamAn pariNati hai, paryAy, vah usame.nse nikalatI hai aur usame.n samAviShTa ho jAtI hai. samA jAtI hai tab khAlI ho jAye. arthAt nikalate samay aur dAkhil hote samay bilakUl khAlI- khAlI hotI hai. isaliye pAriNAmikabhAvako koI takalIph nahI.n hotI.

samAdhAnaH- takalIph to kisIko nahI.n hotI. vah to bharA huA tattva hai. vah koI khAlI kepsul nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- khAlI rahe phir bhar jAye. bharA huA kitane samay rahe? ek samay rahe? phir khAlI ho jAye?

mumukShuH- abhI ek charchA nikalI. paryAy hai vah nikalatI hai, phir paryAy phirase dAkhil ho jAye.

mumukShuH- paryAyakA samay to ek samay hai.

samAdhAnaH- khAlI kepsulame.n davAI bharanI ho to davAI bAhar nikal jAye, phir vahI davAI andar pravesh kar le, aisA?

mumukShuH- parapadArthake kAraN rAgak-dveSh hotA hai. rAg-dveSh hotA hai usakA kAraN bAhya sa.nyogame.n juDatA hai. paryAy to rUkhI hI hai. phirase bAhar jAye tab khAlI hokar jAye.

samAdhAnaH- ... sukhase bharA AtmA hai. vah ananta pAriNAmikabhAv hai. vah khAlI bhI nahI.n hotA aur bharatA bhI nahI.n hai, jaisA hai vaisA hai. usakI paryAye.n pariNamati hai.n.

mumukShuH- paryAyakA utpAd hotA hai aur paryAyakA vyay hotA hai. to paryAy kaise nikalatI hai?

samAdhAnaH- paryAy andar pariNamati hai. usake kArya Ate hai.n. jo ananta guN bhare hai.n, jaise j~nAnalakShaN hai (to) j~nAnakA jAnanerUp kArya AtA hai. vah usakA utpAd hai. jo usake guN hai.n, vah guN guNakA kArya karate hai.n, vah usakI paryAye hai.n. vah pariNamati rahatI hai.n. prakAshakA prakAsharUp pariNaman hotA hai, lavaNakA lavaNarUp-khArApanerUp pariNaman hotA hai. j~nAnakA jAnanerUp pariNaman hotA hai. guN svaya.n apanA kArya karate rahate hai.n.

mumukShuH- viparItatA hotI hai use kahI.n-se bhI dAkhil karanI hai. khAlI ho to hI viparItatAkA pravesh ho sake na?

samAdhAnaH- viparItatA svaya.n svaya.nkI (hai). sphaTik nirmal hai. bAhar nimitta AyA


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to sphaTik svaya.n lAlarUp pariNamatA hai. kahI.nse nahI.n AtA.

.. ghoTAlA karatA rahatA hai. svaya.n hI puruShArthakI mandatArUp pariNamatA hai. paryAy koI ghoTAlA nahI.n karatI. dravya-guN-paryAy vastukA svarUp hI hai. ek dUsareke binA ek dUsare hote hI nahI.n. ananta guN AtmAme.n hai.n. vah guN apanA kArya nahI.n kare to (guN kaisA)? dravya guN binAkA ho to vah dravya kaisA? guN svaya.n apanA kArya na kare to vah guN kaisA? dravya-guN-paryAy, paryAy koI ghoTAlA nahI.n karatI.

siddha bhagavAnako ananta guN-paryAy pariNamate rahate hai.n. AnandaguN, j~nAnaguN hai vah pariNamatA rahatA hai. pariNaman kiyA, vah pUrA ho gayA isaliye dUsare samay khAlI ho gayA, aisA nahI.n hai. vah to ananta kAl tak pariNamatA rahe to bhI thoDA-sA bhI andar khAlI nahI.n hotA. utanAkA utanA Ananda bharA hai aur utanAkA utanA j~nAn bharA hai. utpAd-vyay hote hI rahate hai.n. utpAd aur vyaya. vyay ho gayA isaliye sab khalAs nahI.n ho jAtA. vaisAkA vaisA bharA hai. ananta bharA rahatA hai.

mumukShuH- ananta sAmarthya vAlI paryAy hone par bhI anantame.nse kuCh khAlI nahI.n hotA?

samAdhAnaH- andarame.n kuCh khAlI nahI.n hotA, ananta bharA hI hai. muumukShuH- utanAkA utanA pUrA bharA rahatA hai? samAdhAnaH- pUrAkA pUrA bharA rahatA hai, thoDA bhI khAlI nahI.n hotA. j~nAnane ek samayame.n jAn liyA, ab dUsare samay kyA jAnegA, aisA nahI.n hai. utanAkA utanA ananta bharA hai.

mumukShuH- ... pUrNa nikAlo aur pUrNakA pUrNa rahe.

samAdhAnaH- ananta kabhI khatma hI nahI.n hotA. sva-paraprakAshak j~nAn ek samayame.n lokAlok pUrA jAn liyA. to bhI dUsare samay utanA hI jAnanekA ananta sAmarthya bharA hai. utanA lokAlok hai, vah j~ney hai utanA hI jAnA (aisA nahI.n), ananta lokAlok ho to bhI use jAnanekA a.ntarame.n sAmarthya hai.

mumukShuH- chamatkArik amR^itakA ghaDA, bahinashrIne likhA hai.

samAdhAnaH- .. anubhavame.n A gayA isaliye dUsare samay khalAs ho gayA, aisA nahI.n hai. ananta kAl parya.nt pariNamatA rahe to bhI utanAkA utanA hai.

mumukShuH- pA.Nch laDDa the, usame.nse chAr khAye to ek hI bAkI rahe na?

samAdhAnaH- vah alag bAt hai. vah to pudagalakI bAt hai, yah to svabhAvakI bAt hai.

mumukShuH- akShiN R^iddhi vAleko bhI laDDa kam nahI.n hote. lAkhkho.n log Aye


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to bhI pA.Nch laDDame.n sabakA ho jAtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- munio.nko aisI R^iddhi pragaT hotI hai ki jisake ghar AhAr le, akShiN R^iddhi ho to khatma hI nahI.n ho.

mumukShuH- aisI lAlasA hame.n rahA karatI hai ki aisI kuCh R^iddha hame.n dIjiye ki jisase..

samAdhAnaH- aisI R^iddhiko kyA karanA? andar AtmAkI R^iddhi pragaT ho, svabhAvakA bhedaj~nAn ho aur muktikA mArga pragaT ho, vah R^iddha hai. ye sab to bAhya (R^iddhi hai.n). munio.nko a.ntar dashAme.n sahaj pragaT ho jAtI hai. unhe.n usakA koI dhyAn bhI nahI.n hotA. meru parvat par muniko vaikriyak sharIrakI R^iddhi pragaT huyI to dhyAn bhI nahI.n rahA ki vaikriyak sharIrakI R^iddhi pragaT huyI hai. bAli munine 500 munio.nko upasarga diyA thA. unhe.n kahA ki, aisA upasarga hai. (munirAjako) R^iddhi thI yah bhI mAlUm nahI.n thA. hAth aisA kiyA to mAlUm huA ki vaikriyak sharIrakI R^iddhi hai. munio.nkA R^iddha par dhyAn bhI nahI.n hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!
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