Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 216.

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mumukShuH- 114 gAthA pravachanasArame.n AtA hai, parako jAnanA sarvathA banda kar diyA. aisI prakriyA batAte hai.n. paryAyachakShuko sarvathA banda kar de, tab dravyachakShu ughaDatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- sarvathA banda kar de usakA artha hai ki usakA upayog parame.n jAtA hai na? us upayogako svame.n lAo. ChadmasthakA upayog bAharame.n jAtA hai to kram-kramase jAnatA hai. isaliye tU upayog apanI or lA. sarvathA banda karanekA artha aisA hai ki upayog apaneme.n lA. rAg AtA hai, usame.n ekatvabuddhi hotI hai isaliye rAg mat kar, aisA kahanA hai. jAnanekA banda kar, usakA artha rAg banda kara. rAg TAl de, aisA usakA artha hai. tU svabhAvame.n lIn ho jA. bAdame.n kevalaj~nAn pragaT hotA hai to vah sabako jAnatA hai. vItarAgatA pragaT kar de, aisA usakA artha hai. tU jAnanekA svabhAvakA nAsh kar de aisA artha nahI.n hai. tere svabhAvakA nAsh kar de aisA artha nahI.n hai. rAg TAl de aur upayog svarUpame.n lA, aisA.

Chadmastha to ek bAr jAne to ek taraph jAn sakatA hai. isaliye sva-or upayog Ave to par-or upayog jAtA nahI.n hai. isaliye parako jAnanekA sarvathA banda kar de. ek taraph jAne, upayog to ek taraph jAtA hai. pariNati sab or rahatI hai. j~nAnakA upayog to phiratA rahatA hai. svAnubhUtime.n upayog jAy to parako jAnanA ChUT jAtA hai. aur svAnubhUtime.n lIn ho jAy to par-or upayog jAtA nahI.n hai. AtmAkA vedan svAnubhUtime.n hotA hai. isaliye parako jAnanekA svabhAv nAsh nahI.n hotA hai.

mumukShuH- ek prashna thA ki bhagavAn aisA kahate hai.n ki ham apaneko dekhate hai.n, tum bhI apaneko dekho, parako mat dekho.

samAdhAnaH- bhagavAn kyA kahate hai.n?

mumukShuH- bhagavAn kahate hai.n, ham apaneko dekhate hai.n, tum bhI apaneko dekho, parako mat dekho.

samAdhAnaH- parako mat dekho arthAt par-or upayog, parakA rAg mat karo. anAdi kAlase upayog bAhar bhramaN kar rahA hai. apanA avalokan karo, usame.n sab A jAtA hai. apaneko avalokan (kare). jo svabhAv hai vah sab ughaD jAtA hai. par jAnanekI


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kyA chintA? aisI AkulatA kyA karatA hai? yah jAnu.N, yah jAnu.N, yah jAnu.N j~neyako jAnanekI AkulatA mat karo. AkulatA karanese jAnaneme.n nahI.n AtA. j~ney jAnanekI AkulatA nahi kara. jo ekako jAnatA hai, vah sabako jAnatA hai. sab jAnanekI AkulatA karatA hai, vah apaneko nahI.n jAnatA hai, parako nahI.n jAnatA hai. ek AtmAko jAno, bas! usame.n sab A jAtA hai.

jAnanekA rAg mat karo. svarUpame.n lIn ho jAo to svabhAvakA nAsh nahI.n hotA hai. usame.n jo j~nAn hai vah pragaT ho jAtA hai. nirmal j~nAna. ek AtmAko jAno. j~ney jAnanekI AkulatA mat karo. ek AtmAko jAno. usame.n sab A jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- 31vI.n gAthAme.n (AtA hai), je indiy jiNittA-indriyo.nko jItanevAlA jin hai. khaNDa j~nAnako jItanevAlA kaisA? bhAvaindriyako jItanevAlA kaisA? usakA khulAsA.

samAdhAnaH- bAhar khaNDa khaNDa upayog jAtA hai. vah upayog jo hai, vah khaNDa khaNDa jAtA hai to AkulatA hotI hai. adhUrA j~nAn apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. akhaNDa AtmA par dR^iShTi karo. mai.n akhaNDa hU.N. khaNDa khaNDa AtmAkA pUrA svabhAv nahI.n hai. vah to kShayopasham j~nAn hai. kShayopasham j~nAnase dR^iShTi uThA le. vah to kShayopasham j~nAn hai. kShAyik j~nAn bhI ek paryAy hai. ek pAriNAmikabhAv anAdiananta chaitanya j~nAyakasvabhAv par dR^iShTi karo, bas! vahI jitendriy, jin hai. j~nAyak svabhAv par dR^iShTi karo. kShayopashamabhAv parase dR^iShTi uThA le. ek kShayopasham j~nAnakI kyA mahimA hai? vah to AkulatA hai, kramavAlA j~nAn hai. ihA, avAy aur dhAraNA aise j~nAname.n AkulatA hotI hai. aise j~nAn par dR^iShTi mat karo. ek akhaNDa par dR^iShTi karo. bIchame.n to AtA hai, usako jAn lo. khaNDa khaNDa upayog to, jabatak pUrNa nahI.n ho jAtA, tab kShayopasham j~nAn to rahatA hai. kShayopasham j~nAn to munio.nko bhI rahatA hai. parantu us par dR^iShTi nahI.n karate. akhaNDa j~nAn par dR^iShTi dete hai.n. phir munio.nko shrutaj~nAn pragaT hotA hai. us par dR^iShTi nahI.n karate hai.n to shrutaj~nAnakI labdhi pragaT hotI hai. chaudah pUrva gyArah a.ngakA j~nAn pragaT ho jAtA hai, bhAvali.ngI muniko. kShayopasham j~nAn par ve dR^iShTi nahI.n dete hai.n, to bhI ughAD ho jAtA hai. bIchame.n aisI shrutaj~nAnakI labdhi (pragaT hotI hai). usame.n jo shakti bharI hai to nirmalatA pragaT hotI hai, usame.n sab pragaT hotA hai.

usakA nAsh nahI.n hotA hai, parantu us parase dR^iShTi haTA de, usakI mahimA haTA do, usako jAnanekI AkulatA ChoD do. phir sahaj ho jAtA hai to ho jAtA hai. akhaNDa par dR^iShTi denese kevalaj~nAn pragaT ho jAtA hai. kevalaj~nAn par bhI dR^iShTi mat do, vah to pragaT ho jAtA hai. bIchame.n AtmAkI jo vibhUti hai vah sab pragaT ho jAtI hai. usakA nAsh nahI.n hotA.


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mumukShuH- parako jAnanekI AkulatA nahI.n kare, lekin parako nahI.n jAnanekI bhI AkulatA karanA ThIk hai ki nahI.n?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, nahI.n jAnanekI AkulatA bhI... mai.n malin ho gayA, nikAl do, aisA bhI nahI.n karanA chAhiye. shAstrame.n samayasAr kalashame.n AtA hai ki mujhe malinatA ho gayI, to nikAl do, nikAl do. parantu rAg nikAlanekA hai, jAnanekA kahA.N nikAl do, nikAl do. aisA shAstrame.n kalashame.n AtA hai. jAnanekI AkulatA nahI.n karanA. jAnaneme.n A jAy to nikAl do, nAsh kar do. j~nAnakA nAsh karanA hai kyA? j~nAnakA nAsh nahI.n hotA.

ananta kAlame.n jo pratyabhij~nAn paDA hai, to sab jAnaneme.n paDA hai. bachapanase baDA huA to vah sab j~nAname.n paDA hai. j~nAnako nikAl do. kaise nikAlanA? svabhAv kaise nikal jAtA hai? pUrva bhavame.n-se AyA, sab jo-jo huA vah j~nAname.n paDA hai. j~nAname.n AtA hai to aise kaise nikal jAtA hai. bachapanase abhI takakA j~nAn huA to j~nAnakA nAsh kar de, j~nAn kaise nikal jAtA hai? j~nAn nikalatA nahI.n hai. rAg nikalatA hai, j~nAn nikalatA nahI.n hai. usakA kaise nAsh hotA hai?

mumukShuH- pahale apane yahI.n-se-sonagaDh-se bAt chalatI thI. ham log to dUr- dUr rahate hai.n. aur jayapurase vahI bAt chalane lag gayI. ham logo.nkI buddhi to itanI hai nahI.n. abhI tak to yahI jAnate the ki jo yahA.N bAt chalatI hai, vahI ve chalAte hai.n. kyo.nki ve aisA kahate hai.n ki mAl bhI gurudevakA hai, mArkeT bhI gurudevakA hai. usame.n pharka kyA DalatA hai, vah hamArI pakaDame.n nahI.n AyA thA. so Apase prashna kiyA. ab bhI koI visheSh bAt ho ki jisase bachake rahe. hamAre kAname.n to vahI paDanA hai. hame.n to jAnA vahI.n hai aur vahI.n sunanA hai. kyA pharkakI bAt hai?

samAdhAnaH- apaneko vichAr karanA. vichAr karanA, apanI buddhise vichAr kar lenA ki kyA pharka hotA hai. gurudevake pravachaname.n dono.n bAt AtI hai. usakA mel karanA chAhiye. gurudev ek bAt nahI.n kahate hai.n, gurudev dono.n bAt karate hai.n. usakA mel karanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- sunanA thA Apase, mel karanA kyo.nki gurudevake pravachan A jAte hai.n, pravachan gurudevake hI Ate hai.n. unakI bAt par chalatI hai.

samAdhAnaH- sabakI sandhi karanI chAhiye. shAstrame.n bhI dono.n bAt AtI hai. shAstrame.n usakA bhI mel karanA chAhiye. nishchayakI bAt Aye, vyavahArakI bAt Aye. jo apekShAse nishchay hai usako nishchaya. asalI svarUpame.n kyA hai, vyavahAr usame.n sAthame.n kaise rahatA hai, sabako jAnanA chAhiye. vastu svarUp anAdiananta vastu shuddha hai. bIchame.n sAdhak


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dashA AtI hai. j~nAn, darshan, chAritrake bhed par dR^iShTi mat kara. to bhI bIchame.n bhed to AtA hai. j~nAn, darshan, chAritra sab bIchame.n AtA hai. to usakA sab mel karanA chAhiye. nishchay-vyavahArakA mel karanA chAhiye. samajhanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- ab to Apane jo kahA us par ham abhyAs kare.nge aur ApakI jaya.nti par Aye.nge, jo kuCh bAt hogI to kar le.nge. mAtAjI! .. ham pAmar prANio.nko sa.nbodhaneke liye padhArI. Aj pUjya gurudev nahI.n hai yahA.N par, phir bhI ApashrI vidvAn hai.n to aisA lagatA hai ki mAno.n sAkShAt gurudev hI vidyamAn hai.n aur gurudevakA hI sab kuCh hamako mil rahA hai. baDe bhAgyashAlI hai.n ki Apake darshan, ApakI bAt sunaneko milI. yah to janma-maraNakA abhAv karanevAlI hai, mAtAjI! duniyAme.n kahI.n bhI chale jAye.n rAg-ra.ngakI bAt (chalatI hai). yah bAt kahI.n nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevakA pratAp hai. gurudevane sab samajhAyA hai. mai.n to usakA dAs hU.N. unho.nne jo samajhAyA hai vah kahate hai.n.

mumukShuH- ham log kal chal jA rahe hai.n. jo galatI huyI ho, kShamA karanA Apa.

samAdhAnaH- ... aisA hI mAnanA, mujhe aisA vichAr AyA ki mAnanA parantu ye sab mAhol... vichAr AyA isaliye ho jAy ... gurudev to vichAr bhI jAnate the. andar bhAvanA ho ki gurudev padhAro, padhAro vina.ntI karanekA bhAv AyA to gurudev samAdhAn kar diyA ki mai.n hU.N aisA hI mAno. ye sab bechAre.. to sabako shAnti ho jAya.

mumukShuH- Apake vichAr aur ApakI bhAvanA anusAr gurudevane kar diyA.

samAdhAnaH- svargame.n baiThe hai.n phir bhI mAno.n unakI shakti chAro.n or phail jAtI hai. gurudevako padhAranA... mai.n hU.N, aisA hI mAnanA. gurudev padhAre aisA bhI kisIko kahanA nahI.n rahA, sabako aisA ho gayA ki gurudev hai. ... ye sabakA kyA hogA? aisA mujhe ho jAya. gurudev isame.n kaise padhAre?

... pahale dekhA thA na. thoDA svapna AyA. kaho to sahI sabako. ... ye sajAvaT kaisI? ye to sajAvaT hai. ... aisI sajAvaT! gurudev padhAre aisI bhAvanA andar huyI. gurudev padhAro. gurudev mAno.n devake rUpame.n hAth karate hai.n ki aisA hI rakhanA ki mai.n yahI.n hU.N. ... ye sajAvaTI kaisI! ye to sajAvaT hai. gurudev padhAro. ye kaisI sajAvaT hai. usI din jaldI subah aisA huA ki aisI sajAvaT, gurudev padhAre aisI bhAvanA andar huyI ki gurudev padhAro. gurudev mAno.n devake rUpame.n hAth karate hai.n ki aisA hI rakhanA ki mai.n yahI.n hU.N.

mumukShuH- aisA svapna AyA mAtAjI?


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samAdhAnaH- hA.N. devake rUpame.n. .. rAtako milane AyI thI. kahA, ye sajAvaT kaisI hai! ye to sajAvaT hai. gurudev pAdhAro, ye kaisI sajAvaT hai. usI din jaldI subah aisA huA ki aisI sajAvaT, gurudev padhAre aisI bhAvanA andar huyI ki gurudev padhAro. gurudev mAno.n devake rUpame.n hAth karate hai.n ki aisA hI rakhanA ki mai.n yahI.n hU.N. aisA hI rakhanA ki mai.n yahI.n hU.N. mere maname.n us vakta aisA huA ki aise kaise rakhanA? sabako kaise rakhanA? parantu sabakA... gurudev hai hI, aisA mAhol... .. prakAshamAn hai, mai.n yahI.n hU.N aisA mAnanA. devake rUpame.n gurudev hI...

samAdhAnaH- ... aur pUrNa pragaT ho vah .. A.nshik pragaT ho ... usame.n nishchay aur vyavahAr dono.n A jAte hai.n. nishchayame.n sva, vyavahArame.n jo guruko pragaT huA ve guru. sarvaj~nadev paramaguru. sva aur guru dono.n A gaye. jinhe.n pUrNa pragaT huA... sahajAtma arthAt svaya.n. sarvaj~na guru. jise pragaT huA ve.

mumukShuH- satpuruShake yogame.n mumukShuko kyA lAbh hotA hai? satpuruShake yogase pratham bhUmikAme.n mumukShuko kyA lAbh hotA hai?

samAdhAnaH- apanI taiyArI ho to bahut lAbh hotA hai. guru jo mArga batAte hai.n, unakI apUrva vANI, pratham bhUmikAme.n svaya.nkI a.ntarakI pAtratA aur mumukShutAkI visheShatA karaneme.n guru (nimitta hote hai.n). pUrA mArga pragaT ho, jitanI svaya.nkI puruShArthakI taiyArI us anusAr lAbh hotA hai. gurukA to prabal nimitta hai. unakI vANI apUrva, unakA yog apUrva, sab apUrva. unakA samAgam apUrva hai. apanI puruShArthakI taiyArI ho us anusAr lAbh hotA hai. unakA to sarvasva lAbhakA hI nimitta hai.

samyagdarshan prApta karaneke a.nshase pUrNatA parya.nt lAbh ho aisA guruke nimittame.n to hai, parantu svaya.nkI taiyArI ho us anusAr lAbh hotA hai. apanI mumukShutA visheShatAse svaya.nko mArga mile, svaya.n Age baDh sake, svAnubhUti pragaT ho, svaya.nkA puruShArtha ho anusAr lAbh hotA hai. jisakI svaya.nkI puruShArtha taiyArI ho, us anusAr lAbh hotA hai. yathArtha ruchi pragaT ho, yathArtha mArga mile, yathArtha nishchay ho, chAro.n orakI pAtratA ho, svaya.nkA puruShArtha ho to lAbh hotA hai.

apane upAdAnakI taiyArI ho us anusAr lAbh hotA hai. nimitta to prabal hai. apanI taiyArI honI chAhiye. yathArtha j~nAn ho, yathArtha pratIt ho, yathArtha lInatA ho, sab hotA hai. apane puruShArtha anusAr hotA hai. .. spaShTa ho jAy unake nimittase. puruShArthakI taiyArI, apanI taiyArI ho to lAbh hue binA rahatA hI nahI.n.

jIvaname.n ek hI karanA hai, AtmAkI ruchi kaise pragaT ho? AtmA kaise samajhame.n Aye? bhedaj~nAn kaise ho? AtmAko muktikA mArga kaise mile? svAnubhUti kaise ho?


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vah sab jIvaname.n ek hI karanA hai. chaitanyakA dhyey rakhakar dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA aur ek j~nAyak chaitanya kaise pahachAname.n Aye? usakA svAnubhav kaise ho? vah bhAvanA rakhane jaisI hai.

samAdhAnaH- ... usame.n chalA jAtA hai, parantu bAra.nbAr-bAra.nbAr mai.n to bhinna chaitanya j~nAyak hU.N, yah merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. ekatvabuddhi toDanA. bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs karanA. jaise bAra.nbAr bAharame.n jAtA hai, vaise bAra.nbAr a.ntarame.n a.ntaradR^iShTi karanA. bAra.nbAr prayatna karanA. ChUT jAy to bhI bAra.nbAr prayatna karanA chAhiye. usakA raTan dR^iDh karanA chAhiye. bAra.nbAra.

samAdhAnaH- .. bAharase sab ChoD diyA. AcharaName.n-se ChoD diyA. bAharase arthAt a.ntar aur bAhya dono.n ekasAth ho gayA. a.ntarame.n bhagavAnarUp svaya.n hI pariNamatA hai. ..a.ntarapUrvak bAhara. bhAvali.ng, andarase bhAv pragaT ho aur bAhar ho, vah alag hotA hai. vairAgya dekhakar ...

... agAdh jisakI jAnanekI shakti hai. jAnanevAlA yAnI jAnanevAlA hI. usame.n nahI.n jAnanA aisA AtA hI nahI.n. ananta-ananta jAnanese bharA hI hai. aisA jAnanevAlA kaun hai? mAtra itanA jAnA, itanA jAnA, utanA jAnanevAlA nahI.n, parantu vah jAnan svabhAv ananta svabhAvase bharA hai. jAnaneme.n nahI.n jAnanA aisA AtA nahI.n. aisA ananta- ananta jAnan svabhAvase bharA aisA vah jAnanevAlA kaun hai?

ye jaDa. to jaDake jitane bhAg karo usame.n nahI.n jAnanA aisA hI AyagA. vah jAnatA hI nahI.n. aur jAnanevAlA hai usame.n itanA jAnA aisA nahI.n, jAnanevAlA arthAt sab jAnanevAlA hI hai. aisA agAdh jAnanevAlA vah svaya.n hai. vah svaya.n svako jAne, nij ananta guN-paryAyako jAne aur ananta lokAlokako jAne. aisI ananta jAnanekI shakti jisame.n hai vah (mai.n hU.N). vartamAn to vibhAvame.n usakI dR^iShTi hai isaliye jAn nahI.n sakatA hai, parantu ananta-ananta jAnanekI, agAdh jAnanekI shakti hai. aisA jAnanevAlA vah mai.n hU.N. vah mUl hai, tattva mUl padArtha vah hai.

mumukShuH- svabhAv hai, us par lakShya jAy to kAryasiddhi ho.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, to kAryasiddhi ho. ananta jAnanekA svabhAv hai, ki jisakI maryAdA nahI.n hai. asIm jAnanekA svabhAv hai. aisA jo tattva, us par dR^iShTi jAy to kArya ho.

mumukShuH- ye vartamAn vartatA jo jAnapanA hai,..

samAdhAnaH- vartamAn vartatA jo kShaNik jAnapanA hai vah nahI.n, agAdh jAnanevAlA. jo jAnanahAr hI hai, jisame.n nahI.n jAnanA aisA kuCh hai hI nahI.n, aisA ananta jAnanevAlA. bhale vartamAname.n pUrA jAnatA nahI.n hai, parantu usakI shakti jAnan-jAnan (svabhAvase) bharI


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hai. aisA jo padArtha, us par dR^iShTi jAy to vah yathArtha tattvako pahachAnatA hai. jAnanevAlekA astitva, jAnanevAlA j~nAyakakA astitva pahachAname.n Aye to usane svaya.nke padArthako pahachAnA hai.

mumukShuH- kyo.nki jab jAnanekI bAt AtI hai tab lakShya.. prathamase hamArI aisI bhUl hotI hai ki yahI j~nAt hotA hai, yahI j~nAt hotA hai. isaliye jAnanekI bAt AtI hai tab yah sab j~nAt hotA hai. bhale karate nahI.n hai, parantu j~nAt hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, sab j~nAt hotA hai, kisake astitvame.n j~nAt hotA hai? aisA svataHsiddha jAnanevAlA, jo anAdiananta hai, jise kisIne banAyA nahI.n hai, aisA svataHsiddha jAnanevAlA tattva hai. aisA agAdh jAnanevAlA vah mai.n hU.N. yah jAnA, yah jAnA, yah jAnA aisA nahI.n. agAdh astitva, jAnan astitvase bharA aisA jAnanevAlekA astitva grahaN karanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- .. honese lakShaNako jAnane-se lakShaNakI pratIti karanese lakShya j~nAname.n A jAtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- lakShaN dvArA lakShyakI pahachAn hotI hai. parantu lakShaName.n mAtra aTak jAy to... yah lakShaN hai vahI mai.n hU.N, aisA nahI.n. lakShaN dvArA lakShyako pahachAnanA chAhiye. ye lakShaN jis padArthakA hai vah padArtha mai.n hU.N. vah pUrNa padArtha mai.n hU.N.

mumukShuH- lakShaName.n nahI.n aTakanA.

samAdhAnaH- lakShaNase lakShya pahachAnanA chAhiye. ye jAnan tattvako pahachAne to hotA hai. ye jAnanevAlA agAdh shaktise bharA, aisA jAnanevAlA ananta shakti, aisI ananta shakti usame.n hai. aisA jAnanevAlA Ananda Adi ananta shaktise bharA aisA j~nAyak astitva, use pahachAne aur ye sab vibhAvase bhinna paDe ki ye jAnanevAlA so mai.n hU.N, ye vibhAv mai.n nahI.n hU.N. sab prakArake vibhAv hai vah vibhAv hI hai. shubhAshubh sab vibhAv hai. usase bhinna paDakar mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. j~nAyakako pahachAne, aise nirvikalpa tattvakI pratIt kare, usakA j~nAn kare.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!