Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 218.

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mumukShuH- ... pahale kis prakArase lakShaN dvArA...?

samAdhAnaH- bhedaj~nAnase yah mai.n hU.N, yah nahI.n hU.N. to darshan...?

mumukShuH- kis lakShaNase?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAn lakShaNase grahaN hotA hai. bhedavij~nAname.n aisA AtA hai, yah mai.n hU.N. yah j~nAnalakShaN jisakA hai, vah AtmA mai.n hU.N. aur vibhAv lakShaN hai vah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. jo AkulatA lakShaN hai vah vibhAvakA hai aur jo j~nAn lakShaN hai vah mai.n hU.N. usakA lakShaN j~nAyak lakShaN hai. j~nAyakakA jAnanevAlA lakShaN vah mai.n hU.N. j~nAname.n shAnti hai, j~nAname.n sukh hai, sab j~nAname.n hai.

shAstrame.n AtA hai ki itanA hI satyArtha kalyAN hai, itanA hI paramArtha AtmA hai, jitanA yah j~nAn hai. isame.n sa.ntuShTa ho, isame.n ruchi kar, isame.n tR^ipta ho. koI kahe, akele j~nAname.n sukh aur Ananda? j~nAname.n sukh aur Ananda bharA hai. isame.n tU ruchi kar, isame.n prIti kar, isame.n tR^ipta ho. jitanA j~nAn hai utanA paramArtha svarUp AtmA hai. usame.n kalyAN hai. sab isame.n pragaT hotA hai. isaliye jo AkulatA hai vah mai.n nahI.n hU.N, vah vibhAv lakShaN hai. j~nAn lakShaN hai vah AtmA hai. ek kalyAN svarUp hai, satyArtha padArtha AtmA hai, vahI hai. j~nAn, jitanA j~nAn hai vah AtmA hai. usame.n dR^iShTi karanese, bhedaj~nAn karanese isame.n sukh aur isame.n-se Ananda pragaT hotA hai. isaliye isame.n hI tR^ipta ho, isame.n hI ruchi kar, isame.n prIti kara. shAstrame.n AtA hai.

AtmAme.n sab bharA hai, sa.npUrNa sab isame.n bharA hai.

isame.n sadA rativa.nt ban, isame.n sadA sa.ntuShTa re,
isase hi ban tU tR^ipta, uttam saukhya ho jisase tujhe..206..

isame.n sadA prIti kar, ruchi kar, sa.ntuShTa ho, usame.n tR^ipta ho. usame.n-se uttam sukh pragaT hogA. a.ntar-se pragaT hogA, kisIko pUChanA nahI.n paDegA. tere a.ntarame.n-se sukh pragaT hogA.

samAdhAnaH- .. pariNAmakA j~nAn hotA hai, pariNAmako jAnatA hai. mai.n svaya.n j~nAnasvarUp AtmA hI hU.N, aisA j~nAn hotA hai. pariNAmako jAne vah j~nAn, aise to jAnatA hai


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to ek lakShaN jAnaneme.n AyA ki yah pariNAm hai, yah pariNAm hai, yah pariNAm hai. pariNAmako jAnatA hai vah AtmA svaya.n j~nAyak astitva hai, vahI mai.n AtmA hU.N. jo jAnanekA astitva j~nAyak AtmA vahI mai.n hU.N. pariNAm pariNAmako jAnatA hai vah to kShaN-kShaNakI paryAy hotI hai, kShaNik j~nAn aisA nahI.n. mai.n akhaNDa j~nAyak svabhAv hU.N. usako ...

sabako ek dhArAvAhI akhaNDa jAnanevAlA hai vah mai.n hU.N. j~nAyak svabhAv mai.n (hU.N). pariNAm chale jAte hai.n. bachapanase baDA huA, aisA huA, vah sab pariNAm chale gaye. jAnanevAlA to vahI hai, jo jAnanevAlA hai, bachapanakA, usake bAdakA, usake bAdakA jAnanevAlA to vahI kA vahI hai. jAnanekA astitva jo dharanevAlA hai, jAnanekA astitva jisame.n vah j~nAyakakA astitva mai.n hI hU.N. vibhAvaparyAy, vibhAvako jAnanevAlA aur ek- ek j~ney khaNDa-khaNDa j~neyako jAnanevAlA vah mai.n nahI.n hU.N, akhaNDa j~nAyak svabhAv mai.n hU.N. j~nAyak jAnanekA astitva dharanevAlA vah mai.n hU.N.

jAnanevAlA pariNAmako jAnatA hai, koI jAnanevAlA tattva (hai). parantu khaNDa khaNDako nahI.n grahaN karanA, akhaNDako grahaN karanA. dravya par dR^iShTi karanA. vibhAvaparyAy nahI.n hU.N, bhedakA vikalpa bhI merA mUl svabhAv nahI.n hai. kevalaj~nAnakI paryAy, adhUrI paryAy vah bhI paryAy pragaT hotI hai, j~nAname.n jAnaneme.n AtA hai, parantu mai.n akhaNDa shAshvat anAdiananta dravya hU.N. isame.n koI vibhAv Anese usakI shakti manda ho gayI, aisA nahI.n. mai.n to ananta shakti(vAn), jaisA hai vaisA hI mai.n ananta shaktisvarUp AtmA hI hU.N. sAdhanAkI paryAy pragaT hotI hai, vah jAnaneme.n AtI hai ki isame.n adhUrI, pUrI paryAy sab hotI hai. parantu mai.n akhaNDa j~nAyak svabhAvI AtmA hU.N, aisA grahaN karanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- ... usake pUrva kaise vichAr hote hai.n? kisakA chi.ntavan, gholan rahatA hogA? bhAvanA kaisI hotI hogI ki jisase hamArI sAdhanAme.n puShTi ho?

samAdhAnaH- sabako ek jAtikA ho aisA nahI.n hotA. anek prakAr (hotA hai). AtmAkA dhyey honA chAhiye. AtmAkI prApti kaise ho? AtmAme.n-se sukh kaise prApta ho? yah a.ntarame.n rahanA chAhiye. vA.nchan kisakA hotA hai? vichAr kaise hote hai.n? us vakta to kahA.N diga.nbarake itane shAstra bAhar nahI.n Aye the. vichAr to, tattva kyA hai? vastu kyA hai? AtmA kyA hai? AtmAme.n sukh hai, ye vibhAvame.n sukh nahI.n hai. us sambandhit, AtmA sambandhit vichAr hote hai.n.

gurudev vyAkhyAname.n koI apUrva bAt kahate the ki AtmA bhinna hai, yah sharIr bhinna hai. ye vikalpa bhinna, andar AtmA virAjatA hai, usame.n nirvikalpa Ananda pragaT hotA hai. aisI bAte.n gurudev anek prakArakI karate the. tU puruShArtha kar to hotA hai. karma


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rokatA nahI.n hai, nij upAdAnase hI hotA hai. aisI anek prakArakI pravachaname.n bAt AtI thI, us parase vichAr (Ate the).

mai.n kaun hU.N? merA svarUp kyA hai? aise anek prakArake vichAr Ate the. ek hI prakArake Aye aisA nahI.n hotA. vastukA kyA svarUp hai? tattva kyA hai? AtmA shAshvat kaise hai? paryAyame.n anityatA kaise hai? anek prakArake vichAr Ate hai.n. jise jis prakArakI a.ntarame.n sha.nkA hotI hai, us jAtake vichAr Ate hai.n.

mUl AtmAkI prApti kaise ho? AtmAme.n-se sukh kaise ho? us jAtakA dhyey honA chAhiye. phir kisIko kis prakArake vichAr Aye, vah svaya.nkI yogyatA par AdhArit hai. mUl tattva sambandhi vichAr hone chAhiye. AtmA vastu kyA hai? usakI paryAy kyA hai? usake guN kyA hai? ye vibhAv hai, vibhAvame.n sukh nahI.n hai, vibhAvame.n AkulatA hai. is svabhAvame.n sukh hai. aise, us sambandhit vichAr Ane chAhiye. us jAtakA gholan, us jAtakA manan, us jAtakI pratItikI dR^iDhatA karanekA prayAs vah sab (hotA hai). usIkI laganI, kShaN-kShaName.n usake vichAr, kShaN-kShaName.n usakA dhyAn, vichAr Adi la.nbe samay usIkI ekAgratA chalatI rahe, usIke vichAr chalate rahe. do-tIn ghaNTe, pUrA din aur rAt vahI chalatA rahatA thA.

mumukShuH- ham log vaDhavAN gaye the. mAmAne sab bAt kahI ki ApakI mAmAke sAth charchA hotI thI. to us charchAme.n mukhya viShay kyA thA? ki jisase hame.n puShTi mile.

samAdhAnaH- abhI Ap logoko gurudev-se kitanA milA hai! andar ek prayatna karanA hI bAkI rahA hai. bhedaj~nAnakA kyA svarUp hai? ye do tattva bhinna, dravya-guN- paryAy kyA, utpAd-vyay-dhruv kyA, sab gurudevane aisA spaShTa kar diyA hai. AtmA nitya kaise? dravya nitya kaise? paryAyame.n anityatA hai, guNake bhed par dR^iShTi nahI.n karanI, paryAyabhed par dR^iShTi nahI.n karanI, akhaNDa par dR^iShTi karanI. sab j~nAn karanA. abhI to bahut milA hai.

un dino.nme.n to yah koI bAt thI nahI.n. abhI to kyA satya hai? usake vichAr chalate the. vastu tattva kyA satya hai? jagatame.n anek jAtake matabhed hai.n, usame.n yathArtha kyA hai? aisI charchA chalatI thI. usame.n hi.nmatabhAIko to bahut jAtake vichAr (Ate the), unhe.n bhI utane vichAr chalate the, mujhe bhI utane vichAr chalate the. prayatna chalatA rahatA thA ki satya kyA hai? anek jAtake mat jagatame.n hai, usame.n yathArtha kyA hai? us jAtakI charchA chalatI thI. usame.nse nakkI (kiyA).

usame.n gurudev kyA kahate hai.n? us prakArase vichAr chalate the. parantu yathArtha tattva kyA hai? usake vichAr chalate the. hi.nmatabhAI bhI utane vichAr karate the, yahA.N mujhe bhI


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itane vichAr chalate the. gurudevane pravachan karake itanA spaShTa kar diyA hai ki kisIko kahI.n sha.nkA rahe aisA nahI.n rahA hai. andar bhedaj~nAn (karanA bAkI rahatA hai). sab taiyAr karake gurudevane mAl diyA hai. andar svaya.nko pariNati karanI bAkI rahatI hai. un dino.nme.n to anek jAtake vichAr (Ate the).

shAstrame.n kyA AtA hai? itane shAstra nahI.n paDhe the. tattva kyA sachchA hai, abhI to yah nirNay karanA bAkI thA. shubhame.n dharma nahI.n hai, shubhame.n AkulatA hai. Uchchase uchcha shubhabhAv puNyabandha AkulatA kaise hai? un dino.nme.n abhI to yah nakkI karanA thA. bAhya kriyAme.n dharma nahI.n hai, shubhabhAvame.n dharma nahI.n hai. devalok mile vah bhI AkulatA hai. yah sab kis prakArase hai? yah sab nirNay karanA thA, abhI to sthUl nirNay karanA thA. abhI to sUkShmame.n Age jAnA bAkI thA.

usame.n-se mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, yah vibhAv bhI merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. yahA.N tak andar pahu.NchanA thA. vichAr kar-karake nirNay karanA thA. shubhabhAvame.n dharma nahI.n hai. ananta bAr devalok milA, vahA.N-se vApas AyA. gurudev kahate the, chamaDI utArakar namak ChiDake aisI kriyA kI, to bhI use dharma nahI.n huA hai. to bhI use svabhAv pragaT nahI.n huA. yah sab kaise hai? abhI to vichAr karake yah sab nakkI karanA thA. aisI sab charchA chalatI thI.

usame.n-se nirNay karake yah bhedaj~nAn, yah svabhAv, chaitanya j~nAyak svabhAv vah mai.n hU.N aur yah vibhAv mai.n nahI.n hU.N, usame.n-se nakkI-dR^iDhatA karake, us mArga par dR^iDhatA karake Age usIkI dR^iDhatA, usIkA dhyAn do-tIn ghaNTa tak vahI chalA karatA thA. aur pUrA din aur rAt vahI chalatA thA. mai.n j~nAyak hU.N aur yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. a.ntarame.n- se hI yah chalatA rahatA thA.

abhI to darshan kaun-sA satya hai? abhI to shvetA.nbar-diga.nbar kyA? abhI to vah bhI pUrA bAhar nahI.n AyA thA. usame.n-se mUl tattva grahaN karanA thA. kisIko pUChane jAy, sAgarAna.ndako pUChane jAy, rAmavijayako pUChane jAy, derAvAsI sAdhuko pUChane jAy, kahA.N-kahA.N sabako pUChate the. mai.n to andarase prashna-charchA karatI thI. pahalekI bAt aur abhIkI bAt (alag hai). Apako to sab pUrA-pUrA mil gayA hai. andar karanekA hai.

mumukShuH- ratanabahinako pUChane jAte the.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, ratanabahinako pUChane jAte the. kuCh nayA ho, koI AyA ho athavA koI dhyAn karatA hai aur koI AtmA (sunAtA hai), dekhane jAte the. abhI to sab nayA lagatA thA.

mumukShuH- unako vaDhavANakI bAte.n bahut achChI lagI. kal kahate the. vaDhavANakI


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bAtase mujhe dR^iDh huA ki sonagaDhame.n hI rahanA. ... "mAnAdik shatru mahA nij Chande na marAy, jAtA sadaguru sharaNamA.n...' satpuruShake sharaName.n rahanA vah mujhe dR^iDh ho gayA. pahale vichAr AtA thA, parantu ApakI bachapanakI bAte.n sunakar.. ye dono.n bhAIo.nne kahA, .... mujhe ChoDakar A jAnA hai. kal kahate the.

samAdhAnaH- (charchA) chalatI thI, usame.n-se nakkI karate the ki satya kyA hai? lekin gurudev kuCh apUrva kahate hai.n, aisA mujhe bhI lagatA thA aur hi.nmatabhAIko bhI lagatA thA ki yah koI apUrva bAt hai. is rAstese nakkI ho sake aisA hai. samyagdarshan koI alag vastu gurudev batAte hai.n. sab shAstro.nme.n to, us vakta to shvetA.nbarake shAstra the na, nau tattvako jAn liyA vah shraddhA, aur yah sab jUThA hai. gurudev to kuCh a.ntarakI shraddhA kahate hai.n. phir nakkI karake usakI charchA karate, usame.n-se nakkI ho gayA ki bas, yah j~nAyak svabhAv... sukh andarase pragaT karanA. ye j~nAyakasvabhAv jAnanevAlA so mai.n aur yah vibhAv mai.n nahI.n hU.N. gurudev kahate the, Uchchase uchcha shubhabhAv bhI puNyabandhakA kAraN hai. devalok ho, parantu vah AtmAkA svabhAv nahI.n hai.

us vakta kahate the ki, bhagavAnako dayA nahI.n hotI. aisA kahate the to aisA lagatA thA ki ye kyA kahate hai.n? Ashcharya lagatA thA. dayA vah shubhabhAv hai. dayA shubhabhAv kaise hogA? ekadam shurUAt thI na. isaliye aisA lagatA thA.

mumukShuH- ..kumArake bhavakA prakhyAt dR^iShTAnta thA.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N. aise bhagavAn ananta karuNAvanta kahalAye aur aise bhagavAnako dayA-shubhabhAv bhagavAnako nahI.n hotA. isaliye dayAkA bhAv nahI.n hotA aur aise bhagavAn ananta karuNAva.nt kahalAye. ye sabakA kaise mel hai? aisA hotA thA.

phir aisA kahate the ki shubhabhAv vah vikalpa hai, puNyabandhakA kAraN hai. karuNA to bhagavAnako akaShAy karuNA hai, unakI vANI barasatI hai. vibhAvase AtmA bhinna hai, yah nakkI karanA thA. phir guNabhed, paryAyabhed vah sab to usase bhI Age the. AtmAme.n ananta guN hai.n, paryAy kShaN-kShaName.n pariNamatI hai. us bhed par bhI dR^iShTi karake abhed j~nAyak par dR^iShTi karanI. yathArtha samyagdarshan to AtmA par dR^iShTi kare to hI pragaT ho. vah Age thA.

parantu ek j~nAyakakA astitva grahaN hone par usame.n sab A jAtA hai. usame.n ek j~nAyakakA astitva grahaN karane par usame.n bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA (chalatI hai ki), yah mai.n hU.N aur yah nahI.n hU.N. j~nAyakakA astitva grahaN kare usame.n abhed dR^iShTi us par jAye to usame.n sab samAviShTa ho jAtA hai. ek a.nsh pragaT huA, svarUpakI or gayA, shuddhAtmAkI ek paryAy samyagdarshan (pragaT huyI). svabhAv-orakA apanA ek a.nsh pragaT


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huA. usame.n use sab j~nAt ho jAtA hai. ek j~nAyakako jAnane par usame.n sab A jAtA hai.

phir gaharI-gaharI spaShTatA to gurudevake pravachaname.n dhIre-dhIre AtI thI. pahale to AtmA bhinna, andar nirvikalpa svAnubhUti hotI hai, vikalpase bhinna, shubhabhAvase bhinna. samayasAr shAstra sabhAme.n rAjakoTame.n paDhA. usake pahale to shvetA.nbar paDhate the na, usame.n-se sab AtmA par kahate the.

sahaj svabhAv hai, us par dR^iShTi kare. us par dR^iShTi karake vikalpase bhinna ho to a.ntarame.n svAnubhUti hotI hai. andar Ananda sAgar pragaT hotA hai, aisA gurudev bolate the tab aisA lagatA thA ki ye Ananda sAgar andar pragaT hotA hai, gurudev ye kaisI bAt karate hai.n? Ananda sAgar pragaT hotA hai (to) andar AtmAme.n kaisA Ananda sAgar hogA? j~nAnakA sAgar aur AnandakA sAgar bolate the.

mumukShuH- Ananda sAgar.. kis prakArase usame.n...?

samAdhAnaH- vah to andarakI svaya.nkI jij~nAsAse hI sab Age chalatA hai. mai.n is j~nAyakakA astitva grahaN karu.N, usame.n sab hai. j~nAyakame.n sab bharA hI hai. svaya.n vichAr kare, andarase pratItikI dR^iDhatA svaya.nko A jAtI hai ki is j~nAyakake astitvame.n sab (bharA hai), j~nAyak svabhAvame.n sab bharA hI hai. aisA andarase vichAr karake andarase aisI dR^iDhatA A jAtI hai. ye vibhAv mai.n nahI.n hU.N. svabhAvame.n jo ho vah pragaT hotA hai. bas, mujhe ek svabhAv chAhiye, dUsarA kuCh nahI.n chAhiye. svabhAvakA astitva hI grahaN kar lenA. usIme.n sab bharA hai.

ek j~nAyak astitva merA svabhAv mujhe chAhiye, dUsarA kuCh nahI.n chAhiye. anya sab spR^ihA jise ChUT jAya. aisA nispR^ih hokar ek j~nAyakakA astitva grahaN kar letA hai. usame.n la.nbe vichAr, vikalpakI jAlako ChoDakar astitvako grahaN karake andar lIn ho jAy to jo ho vah use pragaT hotA hai. andar Ananda sAgar bharA hai. usame.n pratItime.n dR^iDh ho jAtA hai ki isIme.n sab bharA hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!