Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 221.

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samAdhAnaH- ... bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs karane-se svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai. vahI mokShakA mArga hai. aur vah svAnubhUti baDhate-baDhate munidashA aur kevalaj~nAn (pragaT hotA hai). svAnubhUtikI dashA baDhate-baDhate hI hotA hai.

is kAlame.n gurudev... bhagavAnake samavasaraName.n darshan karane jAte hai.n. sIma.ndhar bhagavAnake. unhe.n to bhagavAnakA bahut thA to bhagavAnake samavasaraName.n divyadhvani (sunane jAte hai.n). is kAlame.n sAkShAt devo.nkA Agaman honA bahut mushkil hai. svapna ho sakate hai.n. Aye to dUsaro.nko dekhanA mushkil paDe. dUsare dekhe kaise ki... pahale gurudev Aye to dUsaro.nko dikhanA mushkil paDe.

mumukShuH- thoDI der to dikhate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- abhI to devo.nkA Agaman mushkil hai. ... karanA hai, us mArga par jAnA hai. gurudev samIp hI hai. gurudev svargame.n virAjate hai.n, isaliye kShetrase dUr hai. bAkI samIp hI hai, aisI bhAvanA rakhakar vah karane jaisA hai. gurudevane mArga batAyA hai vaha.

gurudev padhAre, itanI vANI barasAyI, vah mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. is pa.nchamakAlame.n yahA.N padhAre. gurudev tIrtha.nkarakA dravya yahA.N padhAre aur sabako lAbh milA, mahAbhAgya! gurudevane jo kahA us mArga par (chalanA hai). gurudevase kShetrase samIp honA ho jAtA hai, gurudevake mArga par chalane-se.

mumukShuH- mArga par chalaneme.n bhI koI sAthIdAr chAhiye na.

samAdhAnaH- gurudev kahate the, pratyek dravya svata.ntra hai.n. svaya.n upAdAnase kar sakatA hai. sAthIdAr nimitta to hotA hai, karanA to svaya.nko hai. dev-guru-shAstrakA nimitta hotA hai. karanA to svaya.nko paDatA hai, upAdAn to svaya.nkA hai.

mumukShuH- ...

samAdhAnaH- arthAt tujhe milegA hI. terA upAdAn aisA taiyAr hai to tujhe milanevAlA hI hai. j~nAnIkI arpaNatA terI utanI hai ki tere chaitanyakA svabhAv pahachAnakar arpaN ho jA ki mokSha prApta hogA hI. bAharase guruko arpaN aur andar chaitanya svabhAvako


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arpaN ho jA to mokSha prApta hogA hI. sab parase rAg ChoDakar, kartAbuddhi ChoDakar guru par shraddhA karake arpaNatA kar aur chaitanya par a.ntarame.n shraddhA karake lInatA kar to mokSha prApta hogA hI.

mumukShuH- shaharake vAtAvaraName.n rahakar kaise Atma-kalyAN karanA?

samAdhAnaH- shaharakA vAtAvaraN ho to bhI karanA to svaya.nko hai. vah vAtAvaraN AtmAko kahI.n nukasAn nahI.n karatA hai. apanA upAdAn taiyAr karaket tattvakA vichAr, vA.nchan, lagan, visheSh puruShArtha karake jo kShetra hai us kShetrakI asar nahI.n lekar apanA vichAr karanA. apanI lagan lagAnA, tattva vichAr karanA, aisA karanA. jisakA puruShArtha manda hai usako satsamAgam nimitta Adi hotA hai, parantu yadi nahI.n milatA hai aur dUr rahatA ho to apanI taiyArI karanA, bhItar-se taiyAr rahanA.

dev-guru-shAstrakA samAgam mile to visheSh achChA hai. to apanA upAdAn puruShArtha karaneme.n sulabh rahatA hai. to bhI nahI.n hove to apanA puruShArtha visheSh karanA. jahA.N bhI karanA hai, apane-se karanA hai. jisakA puruShArtha manda hai usako nimitta dev-guru-shAstra hote hai.n, nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha hotA hai. parantu nahI.n hove to puruShArtha visheSh karanA. tattva vichAr karanA, satsa.ng karanA sab karanA. jahA.N satsa.ng mile vahA.N jAnA. aisA karanA.

mumukShuH- ... nimitta kuCh kare nahI.n. manda puruShArtha ho to satpuruShakA nimitta use kuCh kare.

samAdhAnaH- nimitta kuCh karatA nahI.n, parantu apanA puruShArtha manda hai isaliye use nimitta kahaneme.n AtA hai, karanA to svaya.nko hai.

mumukShuH- ye to is bAr mai.nne DeDh mahineme.n dekhA ki yahA.N rahakar jo puruShArtha jo vichAr chalate hai.n, ek mahinA vahA.N gaye to vahA.N pharka paD jAtA hai, aisA lagatA hai. siddhAntakI ... nahI.n hai. lekin aise nimitta-naimittik sambandha dekhe to aisA lage ki yahA.N rahate hai.n ek hI vichAr Ate hai.n, aur vahA.N anek prakArake vichArame.n ulajhanA paDatA hai, aisA banatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- aisA nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha hai. asar svaya.n grahaN karatA hai. nimittakI asar svaya.n grahaN karatA hai. achChe nimittame.n svaya.n hI asar grahaN karatA hai, aisA nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha hai. isIliye kahaneme.n AtA hai, tU satsa.ngame.n rahanA, sadagurukA shravaN, manan ityAdi karanA. kyo.nki nimitta-upAdAkA sambandha hai. nimitta karatA nahI.n hai, parantu svaya.n upAdAn use grahaN karatA hai.

mumukShuH- satsamAgamame.n svaya.n grahaN karatA hai.


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samAdhAnaH- svaya.n grahaN karatA hai. apanI ruchi jis orakI hai us taraphakA grahaN kar letA hai. anya nimitto.nme.n usakA puruShArtha manda hai isaliye svaya.n hI grahaN karatA hai. nimitta nahI.n karavAtA hai, lekin svaya.n hI vaisA grahaN kar letA hai. dravya, kShetra, kAl, bhAv, kShetra vaisA, kAl, aise j~nAnI, satsa.ng Adi ho to svaya.nko vichAr karaneme.n apanI ruchi us orakI hai na, isaliye svaya.nke puruShArthakA jhukAv us or hotA hai. dUsareme.n apanA manda paDatA hai.

... sonagaDh ChoDakar kahI.n jAnekA man nahI.n hotA hai. kuCh man hI nahI.n hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- samyagdR^iShTiko yathArtha j~nAn hotA hai na, bhedaj~nAna. j~nAyak-j~nAyakakI pariNati jo pragaT hotI hai, dravya par dR^iShTi, usakA j~nAn, usame.n lInatA aur kShaN-kShaName.n bhedaj~nAn- mai.n nyArA hU.N-aisI bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati rahatI hai. yathArtha j~nAn rahatA hai. aur vairAgya aisA rahatA hai. virakti-vibhAvase virakti rahatI hai, vibhAvame.n ekatvabuddhi nahI.n hotI hai. vibhAv aur merA svabhAv dono.n bhinna hai.n. isaliye vibhAvase usako virakti rahatI hai. kShaN- kShaName.n mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N. vibhAvame.n ekatvabuddhi, koI rAgAdi bhAvo.nme.n ekatvabuddhi nahI.n rahatI hai, virakti rahatI hai. usame.n tallInatA nahI.n hotI hai. svabhAvame.n svabhAvakI or lInatA rahatI hai aur vibhAvase virakti hotI hai. aisI j~nAn-vairAgyakI shakti samyagdR^iShTiko hotI hai.

gR^ihasthAshramame.n hove to bhI bAhya kAyAme.n aur vibhAv pariNAm hove to bhI ekatva nahI.n hotA. usame.n tallIn nahI.n hotA, usase bhinna rahatA hai. mai.n chaitanya hU.N, aisA astitva grahaN kare, vibhAvase nAsti-vibhAvasvarUp mai.n nahI.n hU.N, aisI nyArI pariNati rahatI hai, usako virakti-vairAgya bhAv rahatA hai. aisI j~nAn-vairAgyakI shakti, kShaN-kShaName.n bhedaj~nAn rahatA hai.

aisI koI j~nAn-vairAgya adabhut shakti usako rahatI hai. isaliye usako bandha nahI.n hai. alpa banda hotA hai usakI ginatI nahI.n hai. aur ekatvabuddhi nahI.n hotI hai. aj~nAn dashAme.n vibhAvame.n ekatva ho jAtA hai, aisA ekatva nahI.n hotA hai. kShaN-kShaName.n mai.n chaitanya hU.N, mai.n chaitanya hU.N, aisI nyArI pariNati usako rahatI hai. bAhya koI kAryame.n, koI prasa.ngo.nme.n, koI rAgAdime.n ekatva nahI.n ho jAtA hai, bhinna rahatA hai.

aisA usako vairAgya rahatA hai, usakA j~nAn rahatA hai. rAjakArya, ghar, kuTumba, parivAr sab hotA hai, sab kAryame.n bAharase dekhaneme.n AtA hai to bhI bhItarame.n vairAgya-virakti rahatI hai. usame.n ekatva nahI.n hotA hai. kShaN-kShaName.n usakI pariNati j~nAyakakI or jAtI hai. j~nAyakakI lInatAkI or pariNati jAtI hai, rAg-or nahI.n jAtI hai.


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mumukShuH- pariNati j~nAyak taraph jAtI rahatI hai.

samAdhAnaH- kShaN-kShaName.n j~nAyak taraph jAtI hai. bAhya kAyAme.n andar jo vikalpa Aye to pariNati j~nAyakakI or jAtI hai, vikalpame.n ekatva nahI.n hotA hai. tanmay nahI.n ho jAtA.

mumukShuH- bAharame.n... phir bhI vItarAg pariNati to usakA kArya rahatI hai.

samAdhAnaH- pariNati kArya karatI hai. bAhar-se dikhe ki bAharake kAyAme.n vah juDA hai. usame.n mAno.n ekatva ho rahA hai. aisA dikhe. usakI pariNati to bhinna-nyArI kArya karatI hai.

mumukShuH- upayogarUp pariNaman aur labdharUp pariNaman, in dono.nme.n labdharUp pariNAmame.n aisA kArya chalatA rahatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- labdharUp pariNAmame.n aisA kArya hotA hai. labdha arthAt ughAD ek or paDA rahA hai aisA nahI.n hai. parantu kArya chalatA rahatA hai. upayogarUp to svAnubhUti dashA, parantu aisA labdharUp kArya bhI chalatA hI rahatA hai. kShaN-kShaName.n virakti, a.ntarame.n nyArA rahatA hai. koI bhI kArya, koI bhI vikalpa (ho), vah kShaN-kShaName.n bhinna rahatA hai. utane a.nshame.n shAntikA vedan, j~nAyakakI dhArA vah sab use vedaname.n rahatA hai. labdha yAnI ek or paDA hai aisA nahI.n. j~nAyakakA, shAntikA vedan chalatA hai. isaliye use bandha nahI.n hotA hai, aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai. alpa bandha hotA hai use ginatIme.n nahI.n liyA hai.

bhinnatva baDhate.. baDhate.. baDhate usame.n-se usakI bhUmikA palaTatI hai. pA.NchavI, ChaThThI, sAtavI.n (bhUmikAme.n) Asakti kam hotI hai aur virakti baDhate-baDhate usakI bhUmikA badalatI hai. ChaThavA.N-sAtavA.N guNasthAn, usame.n-se bhUmikA palaT jAtI hai. andarakI virakti baDhe, andar lInatA baDhe isaliye svAnubhUtikI dashA baDhatI hai. un sabakA mel hai. j~nAtAdhArAkI ugratA hotI jAtI hai. usame.n shAstrakA j~nAn jyAdA ho, na ho, usake sAth sambandha nahI.n hai, parantu andarakI viraktike sAth sambandha hai.

mumukShuH- viraktike sAth lInatAkA mel hai?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, usake sAth mel hai.

samAdhAnaH- ... tattvake vichAr hote hai.n, samyagdR^iShTikI alag bAt hai, vah to yathArtharUpase nyArA ho gayA hai, parantu bhUmikAme.n bhI use Asakti (kam ho jAtI hai). use ruchi parapadAthAkI, vibhAvakI mahimA kam ho jAy, usame.n tallInatA kam ho jAya. abhI use j~nAtAdhArA nahI.n hai, parantu use andar kam ho jAtI hai, tallInatA kam ho jAtI hai, usakI mahimA kam ho jAtI hai. mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hI sarvasva hai, vahI


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mahimA karane yogya hai aur vahI mahimArUp hai. aisI a.ntarame.n ruchi honI chAhiye. ruchi usakI or honI chAhiye. abhI pariNati pragaT nahI.n huyI hai, parantu vaisI ruchi, j~nAn- vairAgya, tattvake vichAr, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, ye sab merA svarUp nahI.n hai, aise tattvake vichAr hone chAhiye aur us orakI lInatA-tanmayatA kam honI chAhiye. us orakI ruchi kam ho jAya.

mumukShuH- samyagdarshan hone pUrva bhI aisA hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- aisA hotA hai.

mumukShuH- savikalpa bhAvabhAsan ho..

samAdhAnaH- use ruchirUp hai, pariNatirUp j~nAyakakI dhArA nahI.n hai. ruchi (hai). karanekA yah hai, j~nAyakatA pragaT karanI hai, mahimArUp j~nAyak hai, ye sa mahimArUp nahI.n hai. ataH bAharakI ruchi uTh jAtI hai.

mumukShuH- ruchime.n aise koI prakAr paDate ho.nge ki .... bhAv-se prApta kar le? aisI savikalpa dashAme.n ruchi..

samAdhAnaH- aisA yathArtha kAraN ho to yathArtha kArya Aye. vaisA ruchikA kAraN pragaT kare to jisame.n avashya samyagdarshanakA kArya pragaT ho. aisA yathArtha kAraN ho, svasanmukhatA, us jAtakA mArgAnusArIpanA ho to pragaT hotA hai. kAraN usakA yathArtha ho to kArya Ave.

mumukShuH- vah karate-karate AyuShya pUrNa ho jAy to?

samAdhAnaH- to use aisI dhArA apratihat ho to dUsare bhavame.n hotA hai. punaH sphUrAyamAn hotA hai. aisI a.ntarakI gaharI ruchi kI ho to punaH sphUrAyamAn hotI hai. aise vichAr sphUrAyamAn ho, aise sAdhan prApta ho ki jisase punaH puruShArtha jAgR^it ho. yathArtha kAraN ho to kArya Ave. der lage kintu Aye.

mumukShuH- vartamAn j~nAn to bhav pratyayI kahaneme.n AtA hai. yah pUrA hote hI..

samAdhAnaH- andar yadi ruchi yathArtha kI ho to vah ruchi (jAgR^it hotI hai). usakI kAraNarUp ruchi ho to pragaT hotA hai. tatpratI prIti chitten, AtA hai na? prIti- se bhI vArtA sunI hai, a.ntarakI ruchipUrvak, koI apUrva ruchipUrvak usane yadi a.ntarame.n vArtA grahaN kI hai to bhAvi nirvAN bhAjanama. to bhaviShyamee.n vah avashya nirvANakA bhAjan hai. itanA dhAraNA kI ho yA itanA raTA ho aisA nahI.n, parantu andar prIti-se vArtA sunI, andar ruchipUrvak yadi grahaN kiyA hai to bhaviShyame.n vah nirvANakA bhAjan hai.

mumukShuH- dhAraNAj~nAn ..

samAdhAnaH- ruchi, a.ntarakI ruchi (honI chAhiye). usake sAth j~nAn hotA hai.


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samajhapUrvakakI ruchi honI chAhiye.

mumukShuH- prayojanabhUt j~nAn yathArtha ho..

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, prayojanabhUt j~nAn honA chAhiye. samyagdR^iShTi bhavati niyata.n j~nAn vairAgya shakti, AtA hai na? samyagdR^iShTiko aisI j~nAn- vairAgyakI shakti pragaT huyI hai ki vah a.ntarase kahI.n lipta nahI.n hotA. aisA viraktakA virakta rahatA hai. pUrvabhUmikAme.n bhI vah taiyArI kar sakatA hai.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- chaTapaTI lagI ho to mArga khoj hI letA hai.

mumukShuH- ...

samAdhAnaH- mArgako khojatA hI rahe, chain-se baiThe nahI.n. mArga kyo.n prApta nahI.n hotA hai? a.ntarame.n kyo.n prApta nahI.n hotA hai? bAra.nbAr-bAra.nbAr a.ntar-se sphUraNA hotI hI rahe, kyo.n abhI mArga prApta nahI.n hotA hai? aisI chaTapaTI a.ntar-se lage ki chainase baiThe nahI.n, a.ntarase use uThatI hI rahe. isaliye mArga prApta hue binA rahe hI nahI.n.

mumukShuH- .. vichAr bhI bahut Ate hai.n, par..

samAdhAnaH- usame.n dhIrA hokar, usame.n AkulatAkA kAm nahI.n hai, parantu dhairyase svaya.n vichAr kare to mArga prApta ho. bhAvanA jij~nAsApUrvaka.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- nirAsh honekI bAt hI nahI.n hai. svaya.n taiyArI kare aur prApta na ho, aisA banatA hI nahI.n. svaya.n hI hai, svaya.nkA mArga hai aur apaneme.n-se hI prApta ho aisA hai. kahI.n dUr nahI.n hai, apanA svabhAv hai, parantu vah bhUl gayA hai. svaya.n a.ntarame.n dR^iShTi karake yathArthapane khoje to use chain paDe nahI.n, to a.ntarame.n-se prApta hue binA rahe nahI.n. kahI.n bAhar-se prApta nahI.n hotA hai, apanA svabhAv hai aur apane pAs hai. apaneme.n-se prApta ho aisA hai. parantu svaya.nko mArga nahI.n milatA hai.

aise gurudev mile, aisA mArga batAyA. mArga batAnevAle mile aur svaya.nko prApta na ho, aisA banatA hI nahI.n. svaya.n taiyArI kare to a.ntarame.n-se prApta ho, prApta hue binA rahe nahI.n. mArgako jAnatA nahI.n ho to gote khAtA hai. gurudevane aisA mArga batAyA hai ki tere AtmAko grahaN kara. tU asAdhAraN j~nAnasvabhAvI AtmA hai, AtmAme.n hI sab hai, usame.n-se grahaN kara. mArga batAyA hai aur na mile aisA banatA hI nahI.n. svaya.n taiyAr ho to prApta hue binA rahe nahI.n. ... svaya.n bhUl gayA hai. svaya.n hI hai, anya koI nahI.n hai. dR^iShTi anAdise bAhar hai isaliye bAhar dekhatA rahatA hai, a.ntarame.n dekhatA nahI.n hai. a.ntarame.n dekhanA use mushkil paDatA hai, isaliye duShkar ho gayA hai.


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... svabhAv usame.n vah dekh nahI.n sakatA hai. j~nAyakame.n sab bharA hai. lekin vah use pakaD nahI.n sakatA hai. niShkAraN vikalpa to anAdi abhyAsake kAraN aise hI dauDate rahate hai.n. usakA koI ka.nTrol us par (nahI.n hai). chaitanyakA astitva grahaN nahI.n kiyA hai ki vah maryAdAme.n Ave. vahA.N dauD jAtA hai. .. sahaj yAd A jAya. j~nAyakako yAd karanA. use a.ntarase yAd karanA mushkil paDatA hai. usake pIChe laganA, bAra.nbAr- bAra.nbAr vahI karatA rahe to use samIp jAnekA avakAsh hai. astitva grahaN ho to usakA bhedaj~nAn ho to vikalpa... bAkI to vichAr karake puruShArtha karake manda karatA rahe, parantu svabhAvako pahachAnakar kare vah yathArtha hotA hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!