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mumukShuH- Apane ek bolame.n kahA hai ki utkR^iShTa mumukShuko mArga na mile to ulajhaname.n nahI.n A jAtA. vahI.n chakkar lagAtA rahe. vahA.N yahI rIt hai?

samAdhAnaH- vahI.n Tahel lagAtA rahe.

mumukShuH- yahI rIt na?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, yahI rIta. yathArtha nirNay karake vahI.n abhyAs karatA rahe ki yah j~nAyakakA astitva jo nirmal astitva hai vahI mai.n hU.N, yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. jo shuddhatAse bharA hai vahI mai.n hU.N, yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. j~nAyakakI mahimA lagI ho, j~nAyak vahI mai.n, usIme.n sarvasvatA lagI ho to bAra.nbAr vahA.N abhyAs karatA hI rahe, bAra.nbAr Tahel lagAtA hI rahe.

mumukShuH- aisA sab mereme.n hai, vahI svarUpakI mahimA?

samAdhAnaH- merA sarvasva mereme.n hai, bAhar kuCh nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- bhale upayog sUkShma hokar kArya na kar sakatA ho, to bhI pratItime.n, isIse mujhe lAbh hai, vah vartamAn pAtra hai. to jIvan AtmAmay banA lenA, yah anubhav hone pUrvakI Ap bAt karate ho. jij~nAsukI bhUmikAme.n jIvan AtmAmay banA lenA usakA artha kyA?

samAdhAnaH- ek AtmA hI chAhiye, dUsarA kuCh nahI.n chAhiye. AtmAmay yAnI usame.n j~nAyakakA astitva vah mai.n, vah mujhe kaise grahaN ho? bas, usIkA abhyAs karate rahanA. AtmAmay jIvana. dUsarA kuCh nahI.n chAhiye. ek AtmA chAhiye. isaliye AtmA kaise prApta ho? j~nAyak kaise grahaN ho? us may jIvan-AtmAmaya. sarva kAryame.n use prayojan AtmAkA hai. mujhe AtmA kaise prApta ho? vah AtmAmay jIvana.

mumukShuH- sarva kAryame.n AtmAkA prayojan rahanA chAhiye?

samAdhAnaH- prayojan AtmAk rahanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- AtmAkA (prayojan) rahanA vah, jIvan AtmAmay kare lenekA artha hai.

samAdhAnaH- jIvan AtmAmay kar lenA.

mumukShuH- upayog sUkShma hokar..

samAdhAnaH- use grahaN karaneme.n der lage, parantu usakA hetu yah hai. yah j~nAyak

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kaise grahaN ho? j~nAyakakA astitva kaise grahaN ho?

mumukShuH- j~nAnake nirNayame.n aisA honA chAhiye ki is kAryase hI mujhe lAbh hai. vah vartamAn pAtra hai.

samAdhAnaH- isase mujhe lAbh hai, is prakAr bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs rahe, gholan chalatA rahe. j~nAyak kaise grahaN ho? j~nAyakakI mahimA lagatI rahe.

mumukShuH- ... tab tak tattvakA gholan, tattva vichAr karanA. tattva vichAr mAne bAhya vichAr nahI.n parantu jo Ap kahate ho vah?

samAdhAnaH- prayojanabhUt tattva vichAra.

mumukShuH- kyo.nki bAhya shAstrakA gholan ho, use to koI rAstA hI nahI.n hai. chAhe jitanA shAstraj~nAn kShayopasham ho, vah gholan nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- vah gholan nahI.n. mUl tattvakA gholan, chaitanyakA gholana. andarakA gholan, tattva vichAra. phir usame.n jyAdA Tik na sake to shAstrake vichAr Aye vah alag bAt hai. parantu prayojanabhUt yah tattva vichAra. mai.n chaitanya dravya, mere guN, merI paryAy vah mai.n. mai.n sabase nyArA hU.N, kaise nyArA hoU.N? mujhe a.ntarame.n-se bhedaj~nAn kaise pragaT ho? aise vichAra.

.. bhagavAnake, guruke A.Nganame.n Tahale lagAye, us prakAr j~nAyakako grahaN karaneke liye j~nAyakakI or bAra.nbAr Tahel lagAtA rahe. bAra.nbAr usIkA abhyAs karatA rahe.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- bhagavAnake darshanake liye, jise bhagavAnake darshanakI bhAvanA hai, bAharase, to vah bhagavAnake mandir par, bhagavAnake dvAr par Tahel lagAtA hai ki bhagavAnake dvAr khule aur darshan ho. aise guruke darshan hetu guruke A.Nganame.n Tahel lagAye. aise chaitanyake A.Nganame.n Tahel lagAtA rahe ki chaitanyake darshan kaise ho? chaitanyakA svabhAv kyA? chaitanya kaise svabhAvakA hai? usakI mahimA kyA? is prakAr bAra.nbAr Tahel-usakA abhyAs karatA rahe.

mumukShuH- bahut bAte.n AtI hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- vahA.N bhagavAnake dvArase ChUT jAy, thak jAy to kuCh nahI.n hotA. isaliye kahate hai.n, andarase thakanA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- thakanA nahI.n chAhiye, nirAsh nahI.n honA chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- nirAsh nahI.n honA chAhiye. gurukI mahimA lage to guruke A.Nganame.n guruke darshanake liye Tahel lagAtA hai. is prakAr yah chaitanyake A.Nganame.n bAra.nbAr chaitanyake vichAr, chaitanyakA abhyAs, usIkA raTan honA chAhiye. yah dR^iShTAnta dev-guru-shAstrakA.

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a.ntarame.n AtmA. .. grahaN nahI.n hotA hai isaliye ChoD nahI.n denA. a.ntarame.n jo sa.nskAr DAle hai.n, vah andarame.n-se use kArya kiye binA nahI.n rahe.nge.

mumukShuH- ... utanI vyavahAru shraddhA rakhakar use shurUAt karanI chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- bAharase. a.ntarame.n.n j~nAyaka.

mumukShuH- unhe.n sAthame.n rakhanA hai, kArya svaya.n apanese karanA hai.

samAdhAnaH- kArya svaya.nko karanA hai, a.ntarame.n karanA hai.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- bAra.nbAr AtmAkA vichAr karanA. mai.n AtmA kaun hU.N? merA svabhAv kyA hai? bAra.nbAr ruchi AtmA-or karate rahanA. AtmA sarvasva hai, ye sab kuCh nahI.n hai, isame.n kuCh sAr nahI.n hai, sArabhUt AtmA hai. anAdikA abhyAs hai isaliye vikalpa AtA hai. to bAra.nbAr usako palaT denA, abhyAs karake. AkulatA nahI.n karanA. ruchi palaTakarake puruShArtha karake palaT denA. tattvakA vichAr karanA, shAstrakA vichAr karanA, AtmAkA vichAr karanA, vikalpa..

mumukShuH- aisA maname.n hotA hai ki itane din apane nikal gaye, ab kyA kare.n? kab dhyAn AyegA? aisA vichAr AtA hai. phir kyA karanA?

samAdhAnaH- bAra.nbAr abhyAs karanA, bAra.nbAr karanA. satsa.ng karanA, shravaN karanA, manan karanA. jo samajhame.n Ave vah paDhanA. koI bAr pravachan..

mumukShuH- nahI.n, baDA shAstra paDhate hai.n to do diname.n dimAgase nikal jAtI hai, dhyAname.n nahI.n rahatI hai.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevake pravachan (sunanA). samAdhAnaH- dR^iShTi par-or hai. upayog bAhar jAtA hai. dR^iShTi AtmA or kare ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. j~nAyak par dR^iShTa kare to j~nAyakakA anubhav hove. j~nAyakame.n jo j~nAn, darshan, Ananda guN hai. dR^iShTi bAhar jAtI hai, upayog bAhar jAtA hai. isaliye usakA anubhav hotA hai. dishA badal de, dishA palaT de. mai.n to AtmA hU.N, ye sab mai.n nahI.n hU.N. vibhAvabhAv mai.n nahI.n hU.N. paraj~ney jo paradravya hai vah bhI mai.n nahI.n hU.N. jo j~ney dekhaneme.n Ate hai.n, vah merA svarUp nahI.n hai. vah to par hai, mai.n chaitanyatattva hU.N. isaliye upayog palaT de, badal de. dR^iShTi apanI or sthApit kare to apanA anubhav hotA hai.

.. bAhar bhaTakatA hai. chaitanyame.n upayog sthir kare to apanA anubhav hotA hai. usakA bhedaj~nAn kare. mai.n chaitanya hU.N, yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. ye paradravya hai, sab j~ney hai.n. vibhAvabhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. usase bhinna AtmAko pahachAnanA.

mumukShuH- pakaDame.n to AtA nahI.n.

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samAdhAnaH- pakaDame.n to bhItarame.n usakI ruchi, mahimA kare to pakaDame.n Ave. apanA svabhAv hai, pakaDame.n nahI.n Ave aisA to nahI.n hai. pakaDame.n to A (sakatA hai). sUkShma upayog kare, usakI mahimA kare, ruchi kare to pakaDame.n Ave. vah j~nAn dvArA pakaDame.n AtA hai. yadi yathArtha j~nAn kare to pakaDame.n Ave. usako grahaN karake ananta jIv mokShame.n gaye haiai.n aur jAte hai.n, jAnevAle hai.n. apane pakaDame.n AtA hai. jo usakI ruchi kare usako pakaDame.n AtA hai, usakI mahimA kare to pakaDame.n AtA hai.

bhUtakAlame.n ananta jIv (mokShame.n) gaye, sab AtmAkI ArAdhanA karake, j~nAyakakA dhyAn karake, j~nAyakakI pratIt karake aur upayog apaneme.n sthir karake AnandakA anubhav karate-karate vItarAg dashA pragaT hokar mokSha gaye. ananta kAlame.n vah mArga to ek hI hai. vartamAname.n mahAvideh kShetrame.n bhI yahI mArga hai. chaitanyame.n upayog sthir kare, usakI dR^iShTi usame.n sthApit kare to muktikA a.nsh pragaT hotA hai. usame.n visheSh ArAdhanA kare to vItarAg dashA hotI hai. bhaviShyame.n isI mArgase jAye.nge.

bAhya kriyA ananta kAlame.n karI, shubh rAg kiyA, puNya bandha huA, devalok huA lekin muktikA mArga nahI.n huA. munipanA liyA, sab liyA, bAhya kriyA karI, parantu a.ntar svabhAv j~nAnakA pariNaman pragaT nahI.n kiyA, isaliye svAnubhUti pragaT nahI.n huyI. a.ntar chaitanyako pahachAnakar svabhAvakA pariNaman, svabhAvakI kriyA pragaT kare, svabhAvame.n lIn hove to pragaT hotA hai. svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai. usase muktikA mArga milatA hai. svAnubhUti baDhate-baDhate munidashA AtI hai aur usIme.n vItarAg dashA hotI hai, usIme.n kevalaj~nAn hotA hai. mArga ek hI hai.

mumukShuH- shuddhAtmAke sAdhak dharmAtmAkI ek hI samayame.n AsravarUp, sa.nvararUp aur nirjarArUp bhAv pravartate hai.n. to usame.n AsravarUp bhAvo.nkA ShaTakArak pariNaman kisake AdhArase hotA hai? aur sa.nvararUp bhAvo.nkA eva.n nirjarArUp bhAvo.nkA ShaTakArak pariNaman kisake AdhArase hotA hai? yah kR^ipA karake hame.n samajhAIye.

samAdhAnaH- Asrav aur sa.nvara. sa.nvar to shuddhAtmAkI or dR^iShTi sthApe to shuddhAtmAkI paryAy shuddhAtmAme.n-se hotI hai. shuddhAtmAkI or puruShArtha kare to shuddhAtmAkA j~nAn kare, usame.n dR^iShTi kare, usame.n lInatA kare. shuddhAtmAkI paryAy shuddhAtmAme.n-se pragaT hotI hai. AsravakI paryAy vibhAvabhAv hai. apane puruShArthakI mandatAse (hotA hai). jitane a.nshame.n sa.nvar huA, utanA sa.nvar hai. jitanI ashuddhatA hai, utane a.nshame.n ashuddhatA Asrav hai. aur jitane a.nshame.n vItarAg dashA huyI, utane a.nshame.n sa.nvar hai.

sa.nvarakI paryAy shuddhAtmAke Ashrayase hotI hai. aur abhI alpa hai, pUrNa nahI.n hai, isaliye Asrav bhI alpa hai, sa.nvar bhI hai aur nirjarA bhI hai. sab hotA hai. sab

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ek sAth sAdhakadashAkI paryAyame.n rahate hai.n. (AtmAme.n) lIn hote-hote kevalaj~nAn hotA hai. a.nsh hove to sa.nvar aur visheSh shuddhi honese nirjarA hotI hai aur alpa vibhAv hai isaliye Asrav hotA hai. sab ek sAth hote hai.n.

j~nAnadhArA aur udayadhArA sAthame.n rahatI hai. abhI pUrNa nahI.n huA hai, isaliye Asrav bhI alpa rahatA hai, sa.nvar bhI hotA hai, nirjarA bhI hotI hai, sab hotA hai. Asrav koI Upar-Upar nahI.n hotA aur sa.nvar bhI Upar-Upar nahI.n hotA. shuddhAtmAkI dR^iShTi karane-se, mai.n anAdiananta shAshvat hU.N, aisI dR^iShTi karane-se, usakA j~nAn karane-se, usame.n lInatA karane-se sa.nvar hotA hai. usakI alpatA hai, pUrNa shuddhi nahI.n huyI hai isaliye Asrav bhI rahatA hai.

vibhAvakA nimitta karma hai aur apane puruShArthakI mandatA hai. puruShArthakI mandatAse utanA vibhAv hotA hai. jitanA puruShArtha huA, j~nAnadhArA pragaT huyI utanA sa.nvar hotA hai. sAdhakadashA hai na. dravya par dR^iShTi hai. anAdiananta dravya shuddha hai to sAdhak dashAme.n shuddhi, ashuddhi ye sab sAthame.n rahate hai.n. j~nAnadhArA aur udayadhArA. bhedaj~nAnakI dhArAme.n sab rahatA hai. pUrNatA hove to akelI vItarAg dashA (hotI hai). sAdhak dashAme.n do dhArA rahatI hai, do dhArA chalatI hai.

paryAy svata.ntra hai. lekin paryAy Upar-Upar nahI.n hotI hai, dravyake Ashrayase hotI hai. paryAy Upar-Upar hove to paryAy dravya ho jAya. dravyake Ashrayase paryAy hotI hai. paryAy svata.ntra hai to bhI dravyake Ashrayase paryAy hotI hai.

mumukShuH- hamAre yahA.N mandir nahI.n hai, to shvetA.nbar mandirame.n jAye to hamArA kyA nukasAn hotA hai? ... shvetA.nbar mandirame.n nahI.n hai, to usame.n hamArA kyA ahit hotA hai? ham dev-guru-shAstrakI, AtmAkI bAt sunate hai.n, samajhate hai.n, phir bhI usame.n hamArA kyA nukasAn hotA hai?

samAdhAnaH- bAharamee.n kyA karanA vah ApoAp samajhame.n AyagA. aur j~nAyak mai.n hU.N, yah chaitanya svabhAv mai.n hU.N aur vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. ye jaDatattva hai. sharIr bhinna hai, vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. aisI bhedaj~nAnakI bAt samajho, phir yathArtha dev-guru-shAstra kaise hote hai.n, vah apaneAp A jAyagA. phir nukasAn kyA hotA hai, usakA visheSh vichAr karane se apaneAp samajhame.n A jAyagA. mUl prayojanabhUt j~nAyakako samajho. usame.n sachche dev-guru-shAstra Ate hai.n.

dev kaise hote hai.n? vItarAgI hote hai.n. jo samavasaraName.n dev virAjate hai.n, ve vItarAgI hote hai.n. vikalpa nahI.n hai, kuCh nahI.n hai. svarUpamee.n lIn ho gaye hai.n. unakI nAsAgra dR^iShTi hai aur ve vItarAg hai.n. samavasaraName.n baiThe hai.n bhagavAn to, usame.n koI rAg nahI.n

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hai. usame.n koI jAtakA (rAg nahI.n hai). bhagavAn to muni jaise vItarAgI hai.n. unakI pratimA bhI, jaise samavasaraName.n virAje hai.n, vaisI pratimA honI chAhiye. jaisI bhagavAnako vItarAg dashA huyI, phir jaisA bhAv huA usakI pratimA vaisI hotI hai. jaise bhagavAn hai.n, vaisI pratimA. aur pratimAme.n pheraphAr karanA vah yathArtha to hai nahI.n.

isaliye kyA karanA? apaneAp samajhame.n A jAyagA. jo yathArtha hotA hai.. vah yathArtha hai. bAkI to usame.n bhUl hai. bhagavAn samavasaraName.n baiThe hai.n ve to vItarAg hai.n. unakI dR^iShTi nAsAgra hai. muni jaise hai.n, vaise pUrNa vItarAga. muni to sAdhak dashA hai, ye to pUrNa ho gaye hai.n. samavasaraName.n bhagavAn hai.n, vaisI pratimA honI chAhiye. usame.n shvetA.nbaro.nne pheraphAr kar diyA. isaliye jaisA sachchA bhAvame.n hove, aisA bAharame.n namaskAr bhI unako hotA hai. parantu aisA samajhame.n nahI.n Ave to tab ApoAp samajhame.n A jAyagA. yathArtha tattva samajhane se sab samajhame.n A jAyagA. usakA vyavahAr bhI sachchA hotA hai.

jaise j~nAyakako samajhatA hai, vaise sachche dev-guru-shAstrako samajhe. aisA vyavahAr bhI sachchA hotA hai. yathArtha bhagavAn jaise hai.n, vaisI sthApanA hove usako namaskAr hotA hai. ... bhAv apaneAp samajhame.n A jAyagA. jab apane bhAvame.n sachchA samajhame.n A jAyagA nishchay aur vyavahAr, tab apaneAp ChUT jAyagA. ab nahI.n ChUTatA hai tabatak vichAr karanA ki sachchA kyA hai? jab sachchA samajhame.n AyagA ki isame.n kyA nukasAn hai, samajhame.n AyagA to apaneAp ChUT jAyagA. aur nahI.n ChUTatA ho to apanI ichChA. jaise nishchay yathArtha, vaise vyavahAr yathArtha hotA hai.

mumukShuH- jIv samajhatA ho, phir bhI aisI koI sAmAjik kArya vash aise Ayatanake andar jAnA ho, naman na kare, parantu jAnA paDe, aise koI sAmAjik bandhaname.n ho to jAne-se koI (nukasAn hai)? dR^iShTAnta ... aise sthAname.n jAnA paDe, hamAre jaise gR^ihastho.nko, to usame.n doSh hai?

samAdhAnaH- apane bhAv par hai. svaya.nke sa.nyog svaya.n samajh lenA. vaise sa.nyogame.n apanI utanI shakti na ho lokavyavahAr jItanekI, to apane sa.nyogako svaya.n samajh lenA. bAkI na ho to apane liye jAn lenA. mArga to aisA nahI.n hotA, parantu apanI shakti na ho to sa.nyogavash jAy vah ek alag bAt hai. apane liye bAt alag hai.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- ..

mumukShuH- svaya.nkI itanI kachAs hai ki lokavyavahArako jIt (nahI.n sakatA hai).

samAdhAnaH- apane liye svaya.nko samajh lenA. sa.nyogavash jAnA paDe. rAg-dveSh ho aisA ho, aise sa.nyogako svaya.n samajh lenA.prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!