Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 224.

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mumukShuH- gurudev mil, ApakI itanI kR^ipA hai, is ..

samAdhAnaH- sab kriyAse dharma hogA, isame.n paDe the. thoDI sAmAyik kare aur pratikramaN kare isaliye dharma ho gayA, aisA mAnate the. aur koI upavAs kare to dharma ho gayA, aisA mAnate the. gurudevane a.ntarakI dR^iShTi batAyI.

mumukShuH- samAjakI yahI sthiti thI.

samAdhAnaH- samAjame.n aisA hI thA. sthAnakavAsI, derAvAsI, diga.nbaro.nme.n bhI aisA thA. thoDI bAharase kriyA Adi kare, shuddhi-ashuddhi, isaliye usame.n dharma mAn lete the.

mumukShuH- tIno.n sa.npradAyame.n aisA hI thA. diga.nbar nAm mAtra thA shAstrame.n. ve log bhI kriyAkANDame.n chaD gaye the.

samAdhAnaH- usame.n samayasAr thA, lekin koI dekhatA nahI.n thA. paDhanA gurudevane sIkhAyA. usake artha gurudevane sulajhAye. tattvArtha sUtra Adi paDhate the. derAvAsIme.n raT lete the. nau tattva aur guNasthAn Adi raT lete the.

mumukShuH- shvetA.nbarame.n bhI vahI thA. raT lete the, pATh ka.nThastha kar lete the.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, pATh ka.nThastha kar lete the.

mumukShuH- gurudevane to bahut khullA kar diyA.

samAdhAnaH- bahut khullA kiyA. a.ntarakI dR^iShTi batAyI. utpAd, vyay, dhruv Adi sab shAstrame.n AtA thA, koI samajhatA nahI.n thA. AtmA jAnanevAlA hai, j~nAyak hai, bhedaj~nAn hotA hai, svAnubhUti hotI hai, koI samajhatA nahI.n thA.

mumukShuH- shabda kisIne sune nahI.n the. bhAvako ek or rakho.

samAdhAnaH- mokSha to Upar siddha shilAme.n jAy tab mokSha ho, aisA sab mAnate the. mokSha hotA hai. svAnubhUtikA a.nsh pragaT ho, vahI mokSha hai. aur pUrNa ho tab a.ntarame bhAvase mokSha ho jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- bAte.n sunI hai, lekin hamAre liye koI prayojan nahI.n hai. Apane kahA, usake AsapAs Tel lagAnI. usakA vistR^itikaraNa. hame.n to vahI chAhiye, hamArI bhUmikAme.n.

samAdhAnaH- svAnubhUtikA a.nsh pragaT hotA hai, vah nirvikalpa dashA hotI hai tab


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hotA hai. usake pahale mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N, aisA bAra.nbAr usakA raTan karate rahanA. vah Tahel mAranI hai. vikalpa jo AtA hai, vah vikalpa merA svarUp nahI.n hai. vikalpase bhI mai.n bhinna hU.N. shubh manda yA tIvra jo-jo vibhAv Aye un sabase bhinna mai.n chaitanya hU.N. mai.n chaitanya hU.N, chaitanya hU.N, bAra.nbAr usakI mahimA, usakI lagana. bAra.nbAr a.ntarame.n vah raTan rahanA chAhiye ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. mai.n vikalpa rahit nirvikalpa tattva hU.N aur vikalpa ChUT jAT to bhI mereme.n hI sab bharA hai. bAharame.n nahI.n hai. vikalpa ChUT jAy isaliye svaya.n shUnya nahI.n ho jAtA hai. parantu a.ntarame.n jo bharA hai vah pragaT hotA hai. isaliye mereme.n ek j~nAnamAtra-j~nAyakamAtra AtmAme.n sab sarvasva hai. aise bAra.nbAr usakI bhAvanA, usakA raTan, usakA vichAr, usakA vA.nchan Adi karane jaisA hai. j~nAyakake A.Nganame.n Tahel lagAne jaisI hai, bAra.nbAra.

mumukShuH- vA.nchan, vichAr karane par punaH bhedake rAste par chaDh jAtA hai. anAdikI Adat hai us par jAnekI.

samAdhAnaH- bhedake rAste par chaDh jAy to bhI bAra.nbAr apanI or lakShya karate rahanA. kyo.nki kahI.n na kahI.n rukatA to hai. jabatak a.ntarame.n lIn nahI.n huA hai, a.ntarame.n dR^iShTi nahI.n gayI hai, tabatak use kahI.n na kahI.n ghumatA rahatA hai. isaliye kahI.n khaDA to rahatA hai. parantu shraddhA aur ruchi us or rakhanI ki j~nAyak, j~nAyakame.n sab hai. in sabame.n rukane jaisA nahI.n hai. vah to bIchame.n Aye binA nahI.n rahatA. parantu shraddhA to j~nAyakakI rakhanI ki nirvikalpa tattva shuddhAtmA j~nAyak mai.n hU.N. ye sab to usame.n rah nahI.n pAtA hU.N, isaliye vah sab Aye binA nahI.n rahatA.

mumukShuH- a.ntarame.n vah pratIti nahI.n AtI hai. mai.n paripUrNa hU.N, mereme.n sab hai. yah vishvAs, nA jAne kyo.n vishvAs nahI.n AtA hai. dUsarI sab vastuo.nkA vishvAs (AtA hai), sonekA, jhavAharAtakA, phalAnekA sabakA vishvAs AtA hai, parantu isI kShaName.n mereme.n sab bharA hai, (yah vishvAs nahI.n AtA hai).

samAdhAnaH- dUsarA sab dikhatA hai, yah dikhAI nahI.n detA hai. (isaliye) use andarame.n vishvAs UD jAtA hai. parantu usame.n sab hai. svaya.n vichAr karake, gurudev kahate hai.n, dev-guru-shAstra kahate hai.n, parantu svaya.n vichAr karake nakkI kare to usIme.n sab bharA hai.

gurudev kahate the na? ChoTIpIpar ghisate-ghisate usame.n-se charaparAI nikalatI hai. vaise j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N kare, usIme.n sab bharA hai, usame.n-se svabhAv pragaT hotA hai. ChAChako bAra.nbAr bilotA rahe to usame.n-se makkhan bhinna ho jAtA hai. aise bAra.nbAr bhedaj~nAn (kare). bAra.nbAr mai.n bhinna hU.N, bhinna hU.N, aisA bAra.nbAr kare to, jaise makkhan bhinna ho jAtA hai,


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vaise bhinna to hai hI, parantu pragaTarUpase bhinna paD jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- bahut sundar bAt hai. bAra.nbAr yah abhyAs karake bhinna paDanekA prayatna (karanA), sab AgamakA sAr kahe.n to yah ek hI hai.

samAdhAnaH- yah ek hI hai.

mumukShuH- prayojanabhUt dravya-guN-paryAyakA j~nAn karake, j~nAnake pahalU adhik spaShTa na kare, .. j~nAname.n ho jAtI ho, sUkShmapane tattvaj~nAnakA koI bhI viShay ho usakA nirNay na kar sakatA ho athavA usakA vah vishleShaN nahI.n kar sakatA ho, parantu mUlabhUt tattvako jAnakar usase bhedaj~nAn karanekA prayatna kare to ho sakatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- ho sakatA hai. mUlabhUt prayojanabhUt tattva-mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, aisA nakkI karake ye vibhAv mai.n nahI.n hU.N, mai.n anAdiananta shAshvat dravya ananta guNase bharA huA aur kShaN-kShaName.n palaTe vah paryAy, bas! itanA j~nAn karake apanI or jAy to usame.n koI visheSh j~nAn na ho to usame.n kuCh jarUrat nahI.n paDatI.

mumukShuH- gote hI khAte hai.n na. ham vahA.N hai. ham yAnI hamAre sab bhAI. kShayopasham j~nAname.n khaDe hai.n, ...

samAdhAnaH- sabakA prayojan ek hI hai ki bhedaj~nAn karanA.

mumukShuH- bhAI kahate hai.n, jUThe hI gote khAte hai.n. viShay banAte hai.n, parantu itanA to gurudev dekar gaye hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- kitanA diyA hai. bhedaj~nAnakA prayojan hai.

mumukShuH- vah karatA nahI.n hai aur bAte.n karatA rahatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, aisA hai, vaisA hai, aisA hai, aisA hai.

mumukShuH- kramabaddhaparyAyame.n ulajh jAya. use ulajhanA hai, aTakanA hai isaliye kahI.n na kahI.n...

samAdhAnaH- kahI.n-kahI.n aTak jAtA hai. prayojan j~nAyakako pragaT karanA vah hai.

mumukShuH- samay-samay usakA..

samAdhAnaH- usakA raTan rakhane jaisA hai.

mumukShuH- kyA bAkI hai? usame.n kyA samajhanA hai?

samAdhAnaH- samayasArame.n AtA hai ki j~nAnamAtra AtmA, aisI tU ruchi kar, aisI prIti kar, usame.n usIkA anubhav kar to usame.n-se pragaT (hotA hai). jitanA j~nAnamAtra hai utanA hI mai.n hU.N. jitanA j~nAnamAtra vahI mai.n hU.N. "isame.n sadA rativa.nt ban, isame.n sadA sa.ntuShTa re.' usame.n tU sa.ntuShTa ho. usIme.n sab hai, usame.n sa.ntuShTa ho. usame.n sadA sa.ntuShTa ho, usIme.n-se sab pragaT hogA. "isase hI ban tU tR^ipta, uttam saukhya ho jisase tujhe.' usame.n


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tU tR^ipta ho, usIme.n sab hai.

phir nirNay na ho to chAro.n orakA vichAr kare, parantu prayojan to ek j~nAyakakA hai. jo hogA sab A jAyagA. usame.n shuddhAtmAkI paryAy shuddha pariNamegI. a.nsh pariNamegA, usame.n bhedaj~nAn hogA, usame.n Asrav, sa.nvar sab A jAyagA. vah to sahaj A jAyagA. parantu ek j~nAyakako grahaN kar to usame.n sab AyagA.

sAdhakadashAme.n jo ho vah sab A jAtA hai. usakI visheSh shuddhi hotI hai, nirjarA hotI hai aur usame.n visheSh lIn ho to vItarAgatA kevalaj~nAn hotA hai. usame.n munidashA (AtI hai). j~nAyakame.n hI sab hai. svAnubhUtime.n. aur vah svAnubhUti bhI j~nAyakako grahaN karane-se hI hotI hai. j~nAyakako grahaN karake usakI bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA, j~nAyakakI dhArA sahaj karatA jAy to usame.n svAnubhUti bhI usI mArgame.n hotI hai-j~nAyakako grahaN karanese. grahaN nahI.n hotA hai, isaliye usake chAro.n or vikalpa dauDate rahate hai.n. j~nAyakako grahaN karanA.

mumukShuH- vartamAname.n, ham sab bhAI yahA.N baiThe hai.n, ham jo kuCh sunate hai.n, ... sunate hai.n parantu aise mukhase sunate hai.n ki jo j~nAnI nahI.n hai. usame.n ham dUsare rAste par chaDh jAye.n (to)? kyo.nki hame.n sAmane jo prarupaNA (karate hai.n), ham jinako sunate hai.n, vah prarUpaNA karanevAle j~nAnI to hai nahI.n, j~nAnIke vachanAmR^it hai, parantu j~nAnIke vachanAmR^it sirpha paDhate nahI.n hai, usake hR^idayame.n jo kuCh vichAr Ate hai.n vah hamAre sAmane pradarshit karatA hai. kyo.nki gurudevakI vANI svata.ntra rUpase vichAranekI shakti kisIkI hotI hai, sabakI nahI.n hotI. ... AdhyAtmik prarUpaNA hotI ho aur usame.nse..

samAdhAnaH- jo sachchA mumukShu hotA hai, jise sat grahaN karanA hai vah kahI.n rukatA nahI.n. vah sachchA nirNay kar letA hai. vah sunane Aye usame.n jise jij~nAsA hotI hai ki mujhe AtmAkA (hit) karanA hai, j~nAyakakA bhedaj~nAn karanA hai, vah kahI.n rukatA nahI.n, satya grahaN kar letA hai.

mumukShuH- Apane kahA thA, mumukShu bhale sachchA mumukShu na kahe.n, mai.n jo bAt karatA hU.N, parantu vah mumukShu j~nAnake lobhase, gurudevane kahA hai ki vah svaya.n to nayA hai athavA purAnA ho, jo bhI ho, parantu abhI use j~nAname.n pUrA pakaDame.n nahI.n AyA ho. aur prarUpaNA aisI AtI ho ki use aisA lage ki yah gurudevakI hI vANI hai aur j~nAnakA lobh hai. karane jaisA to Apane kahA utanA hI, adhik jAnanekI koI AvashyakatA nahI.n hai. mujhe to aisA lagatA hai, kuCh sunanekI jarUrat nahI.n hai, gurudevakI Tepake alAvA aur Apane kahA ki apane andar AsapAs chakkar lagAtA rah, vahI kAm karane jaisA hai. chaubIs ghaNTe ek hI kAm, jitanA samay mile usame.n satakA sa.ng arthAt a.ntarakA


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jo sa.ng hai usIkA sa.ng karane jaisA hai. j~nAnake lobhase anAdikI Adat hai, kuCh- kuCh nayA-nayA jAnanekI, naye nyAy usame.n phisal jAtA hai. ... spaShTa kahU.N to ham to banda kar denA chAhiye. mujhe to aisA hotA hai ki banda kar denA chAhiye. yadi aisA lagatA ho to. muumukShume.n utanI lAyakAt na ho ki usame.n-se vah satya nikAl sake. utanA j~nAnakA kShayopasham bhI na ho.

samAdhAnaH- bAharake sa.nyogame.n mai.n kyA kahU.N? svaya.n apanA samajh lenA. svaya.nko nukasAn hotA hai aisA lage to svaya.nko apanA samajh lenA. aisA lage ki mujhe nukasAn ho rahA hai, vyaktigatarUpase, to svaya.nko nukasAn hotA ho to ChoD denA. bAkI bAharake sa.nyogame.n sabako ruche aisA kare, usame.n mai.n hA.N-nA kaise kahU.N? svaya.nko apane liye samajh lenA ki mujhe nukasAn hotA hai. sachchA jij~nAsu kahe ki mai.n jahA.N-tahA.N ruk jAtA hU.N ki yahA.N-se jAnU, yahA.N-se jAnU aisA kar-karake ruk jAtA hU.N, mujhe ulajhan hU.N, usake bajAy gurudevakI vANIme.n-se mai.n satya samajhu, is tarah sirpha apane liye ho to svaya.n ChoD denA, apane liye.

samAdhAnaH- ... prakAsh aur andhakAr, kitanA pharka hai. prakAsh prakAsh .. agnikI kriyA uShNatArUp hI hotI hai. barphakI kriyA ThaNDakarUp hotI hai, dono.n ek nahI.n ho sakate. pAnIkI shItalatA aur agnikI uShNatA ek nahI.n hote. sthUl dR^iShTAnta hai.

vaise j~nAn j~nAnarUp aur krodh krodharUp (rahate hai.n). lekin svaya.n hI usame.n tanmay hai. parantu svaya.n svaya.nko jAn nahI.n sakatA hai. paryAy aisI bAhar bhaTakatI rahatI hai. bAharakI pariNatike kAraN a.ntarame.n dekhatA nahI.n hai. Dor, j~nAnakI Dor kahA.N-se AyI hai us mUl talako dekhatA nahI.n hai. ... dekhaneme.n tanmay ho jAtA hai. bhale AkulatA AkulatAme.n bAharakA dekhatA rahatA hai.

log darpaName.n dekhe na ki darpaName.n kyA dikhatA hai? usame.n chitra-vichitratA dekhate hai.n. parantu darpaN ekasamAn hai, us ekasamAn darpaN par dR^iShTike jAneke bajAy log darpaName.n kyA-kyA dikhatA hai, (vah dekhaneme.n ruk jAte haiai.n). jIvako anAdise aisA bhram ho gayA hai ki ye j~ney kyA hai? parantu usame.n ekasamAn kyA hai? kisame.n yah j~nAt hotA hai? yah vastu kyA hai? usakA log vichAr karaneke bajAy, darpaName.n dikhatA kyA hai? anek jAtakI vastue.N dikhatI hai, un vastuo.nko dekhaneme.n paD jAtA hai.

chiDiyA usame.n dekhe to dUsarI chiDiyA kahA.N-se A gayI? chiDiyAko dekhane lag jAtA hai. lekin yah bIchame.n darpaN jaD hai, use nahI.n dekhatA. chiDiyA usIme.n cho.Nch mAratA hai. andar kyA dikhatA hai, usIme.n bhaTakatA rahatA hai. parantu kisame.n dikhatA hai aur kyA vastu hai? use koI nahI.n dekhatA. usame.n anek prakArake j~neyo.nko dekhaneke bhramame.n,


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kisame.n dikhatA hai aur yah vastu kyA hai? aisI kaun-sI kimatI vastume.n dikhAI detA hai? use nahI.n dekhatA. ye sab dikhatA hai usake bhramake ghoTAlame.n paDA hai.

chiDiyA Aye to ye dUsarA kyA dikhatA hai? chiDiyAkI buddhi kAm nahI.n karatI hai. usake sAth jhaghaDA kar-karake mAno.n dUsarI chiDiyA A gayI hai, aisA use ho jAtA hai. vastu hai ki jisame.n yah sab dikhAI detA hai.

... jAnanekA hai use nahI.n dekhatA hai, ye sab chitra-vichitratAme.n tanmay ho gayA hai. chitra-vichitratAme.n bhale hI thak jAy, AkulatA ho, to bhI usIme.n lagA rahatA hai. ... lekin kuCh mAlUm nahI.n paDatA hai ki yah mai.n. bAhar sab.... tU hI hai, lekin tere j~nAnako tU bAhar lene jA rahA hai. Ananda terA hai aur tU lene jA rahA bAhar, aisA karatA hai.

AdamI jitanA dekh sake utanA tanmay hokar ek-ek dekhe utanA dekh nahI.n sakatA. bhinna huA AdamI, nyArA huA hai vah jyAdA dekh sakatA hai. shIkhar par AdamI khaDA ho vah jyAdA dekh sakatA hai. vaise j~nAnake shikhar par khaDA hai, vah bhinna ho to jyAdA dekh sakatA hai, lekin vah jAnatA nahI.n hai. shikhar par A nahI.n pAtA. j~nAname.n mahimA nahI.n AtI hai. j~neyakI mahimA AtI hai, aisI j~nAnakI mahimA nahI.n AtI hai. j~nAn arthAt jAnanA. j~nAnakI mahimA nahI.n AtI hai. vah vibhinnatA dikhatI hai usakI mahimA AtI hai. vibhinnatA (dekhatA hai), lekin andar khaDA to rah, usame.n kaisA hai? usakA tU nishchay to kara. usIme.n sab hai, sab vibhinnatA usame.n hai. lekin vah bAhar (jAtA hai), use vishvAs nahI.n AtA hai. arUpI chaitanyadravyakA vishvAs nahI.n AtA hai.

... kuCh aj~nAt nahI.n rahegA. jAnaneke liye vyartha prayatna karatA hai. andarakA svaghar bhI j~nAt hogA aur sab j~nAt hogA. kuCh aj~nAt nahI.n rahegA, lekin use bAhar hI vyartha prayatna karanA hai. jAnanekA svabhAv hai isaliye sab jAnanA hai. j~neyake bhed kar- karake jAnanA hai. itanA bAharakA jAnanekA (ras hai), bAharase jAnaneko Akul-vyAkUl (hotA hai).

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!