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mumukShuH- upayog jab ise jAne, use jAne us vakta bhI aisA lenA ki mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N aur yah j~nAt ho rahA hai, vah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. aise bhedaj~nAnakI prakriyA hai?

samAdhAnaH- aisA vikalpa nahI.n hotA, parantu yah j~nAyak hai vah mai.n hU.N, yah j~ney hai vah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, mai.n jAnanevAlA hU.N. ye j~ney j~nAname.n j~nAt ho rahA hai. ye j~ney parapadArtha hai, vah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. j~ney so mai.n nahI.n hU.N, j~nAn so mai.n hU.N. j~nAyak so mai.n hU.N.

jo j~ney dikhatA hai vah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. aur j~nAn hai vah to dravyakA guN hai. j~nAn guN hai aur guNIko pahachAnanA-j~nAyak so mai.n hU.N. j~nAn ek guN hai. usame.n lakShya- lakShaNakA bhed hai. j~neyako jAnanevAlA j~nAn aur j~nAn jisame.n rahA hai vah dravya mai.n hU.N. dravyake andar j~nAn rahA hai. parantu j~nAn jisame.n rahA hai, aise j~nAyakakA astitva hai vah mai.n hU.N. pUrA j~nAyak grahaN kare. mAtra j~nAn mai.n nahI.n, pUrA j~nAyak so mai.n hU.N. j~nAn hai vah j~nAyakakA guN hai.

... a.ntarame.n shuddhAtmA Ave, parantu use aisI bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT ho ki j~nAyak hai vahI mai.n hU.N. aisA bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs kare to use svAnubhUti ho. aisA bAra.nbAr abhyAs, kShaN-kShaName.n aisA abhyAs karatA jAy ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. j~nAyakakI use mahimA Aye. ek j~nAnamAtrame.n kyA? use kuCh rukhA nahI.n ho jAtA ki j~nAname.n kuCh nahI.n hai. j~nAyakame.n hI sab bharA hai. j~nAnamAtra AtmAme.n sab bharA hai. aisI mahimApUrvak use j~nAyakakA astitva grahaN ho aur bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs kare to use svAnubhUti hotI hai.

... j~nAn so mai.n, j~nAn so mai.n usame.n j~nAyak so mai.n hU.N, aisA AnA chAhiye. mAtra j~nAn yAnI sirpha guN nahI.n, j~nAyak so mai.n hU.N.

mumukShuH- ananta guNakA piNDa aisA jo j~nAyak hai vah mai.n. vahA.N le jAnA.

samAdhAnaH- vahA.N le jAnA. ananta guNakA use bhed nahI.n AtA hai, parantu usakI mahimAme.n aisA AtA hai ki ananta guNase bharA jo j~nAyak hai, anantatAse (bharA) j~nAyak so mai.n hU.N.

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... pIlApan hai, chIkanApan hai, suvarNa aisA hai, athavA hIrA aisA hai, aisA usakA prakAsh hai, shvet hai, vah sab guN hai. parantu pUrNa hIrA so mai.n, pUrNa suvarNa so mai.n. aise j~nAname.n ek j~nAnaguN jAne vah mai.n, aisA nahI.n, jAnanevAlekA pUrNa astitva hai vah mai.n hU.N.

mumukShuH- bahut sundar spaShTIkaraN AyA. bahut samayase aisA lagatA thA ki gurudev AtmAkA svabhAv j~nAn to kahate hai.n, parantu use koI kAryasiddhi to hotI nahI.n, parantu yah ek bahut baDI bhUl hotI hai.

samAdhAnaH- mAtra j~neyako jAnane vah j~nAn, is tarah j~nAn nahI.n, parantu pUrA dravya j~nAyaka. vah j~nAn kisake AdhArase rahA hai? us j~nAnako AdhAr kisakA hai? pUrA dravya hai. j~nAn ek pUrA astitva hai, j~nAyak ananta guNase gu.NthA huA j~nAyakakA pUrA astitva hai vah mai.n hU.N.

mumukShuH- mAtra ek guN mai.n nahI.n, parantu ananta guNakA piNDa aisA jo dravya, aisA merA astitva hai, vah mai.n hU.N.

samAdhAnaH- aisA merA astitva hai vah mai.n hU.N. pIlA utanA sonA nahI.n, parantu soneme.n dUsare bahut guN hai.n, aisA sonekA pUrA astitva hai vah sonA hai. aise j~nAyak hai vah ananta guNase bharA huA ek dravya hai, vah mai.n hU.N. j~nAn kahakar gurudevako, AchAryadevako j~nAn kahakar j~nAyak kahanA hai. j~nAnaguN asAdhAraN hai isaliye j~nAn dvArA pahachAn karavAte haiai.n ki j~nAn so mai.n. j~nAn hai vah tU hai, aise pahachAn karavAte hai.n. lakShaNase lakShyakI pahachAn karavAte hai.n. AchAryadev aur gurudevako yahI kahanA hai ki j~nAn hai vah tU hai arthAt j~nAyak hai vah tU hai, aisA kahanA chAhate hai.n.

mumukShuH- kahanekA bhAvArtha yah hai ki j~nAyak so mai.n.

samAdhAnaH- j~nAyak hai vah tU hai, aisA kahanA chAhate hai.n, j~nAn kahakara. kyo.nki j~nAn sabako j~nAt ho sakatA hai, j~nAn asadhAraN guN hai isaliye lakShaN dvArA lakShyakI pahachAn karavAte hai.n. gurudev aisA kahate the aur shAstro.nme.n bhI (aisA hI kahanA hai). gurudevane shAstro.nke rahasya khole hai.n. j~nAn kahakar j~nAyak kahanA chAhate the.

mumukShuH- bahut sundar bAt AyI. j~nAn kahakar gurudev bhI j~nAyak hI kahate the.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, gurudev, j~nAn kahakar j~nAyak kahate the. AtA hai, "isame.n sadA rativa.nt ban'. jitanA j~nAnamAtra hai utanA tU hai. usame.n sadA ruchi kar, usame.n sa.ntuShTa ho, usame.n tR^ipta ho. jitanA j~nAnamAtra AtmA utanA tU. jitanA paramArtha j~nAnasvarUp AtmA hai vah tU hai. j~nAnamAtra kahakar j~nAyak hai vah tU hai, aisA kahanA chAhate hai.n.

mumukShuH- utanA satyArtha..

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samAdhAnaH- utanA hI satyArtha paramArtha hai, jitanA j~nAn hai. usame.n tR^ipta ho, usame.n sa.ntuShTa ho.

mumukShuH- isame.n sadA rativa.nt ban, isame.n sadA sa.ntuShTa re. aisI gAthA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, "isase hI ban tU tR^ipta, uttam saukhya ho jisase tujhe.' aur gurudev bhI yahI kahate the ki j~nAn hai vah tU hai. arthAt j~nAyak so tU hai. j~nAnamAtrame.n sab A gayA. j~nAnamAtrame.n AchAryadev kahate hai.n, sab A gayA. usame.n tR^ipta ho, usame.n sa.ntuShTa ho, tujhe sukh (prApta hogA). j~nAnamAtra kahakar j~nAyak kahate hai.n. usame.n ananta guN bhare hai.n, usame.n ananta Ananda bharA hai. sab usame.n bharA hai. ataH asAdhAraN AtmAkA j~nAnaguN jo lakShaN tujhe pahachAname.n AtA hai, us lakShaN dvArA lakShyako pahachAn le. bas! usIme.n sab bharA hai.

mumukShuH- akele j~nAnako mukhya karake bAt kI hai, parantu ananta guNakA piNDa aisA jo j~nAyak, use dR^iShTime.n leneke liye vah darshAyA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, use dR^iShTime.n leneke liye, pUrA j~nAyak grahaN karaneke liye. ananta guNakA astitva j~nAyakarUp hai, use grahaN kara. j~nAyak, usame.n pUrA dravya A jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- pahale vikalpa ho, bAdame.n vikalpakA abhAv ho jAtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- pahale nirvikalpa tattvakI yathArtha pratIti hotI hai ki yah j~nAyak hai vah mai.n hU.N. aisI yathArtha pratIti hotI hai. bIchame.n vikalpa to hote hai.n, parantu bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs kare, usakI lInatA kare, usakI pratItiko dR^iDh kare to nirvikalpa hotA hai. bAra.nbAr usakI bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA ugra kare to nirvikalpa ho.

mumukShuH- utAvalIse..

samAdhAnaH- utAvalIse nahI.n. dhairya, shAnti, bhAvanAse aur jij~nAsAse. AkulatAse nahI.n, parantu usakI bhAvanA ugra ho, jij~nAsA ho, parantu dhairyase puruShArtha kare. AkulatA karane-se nahI.n hotA. bAra.nbAr gurudevake upadeshame.n vahI AtA thA.

mumukShuH- kuCh bhI paDhe, das pa.nkti paDhe, lekin usame.n-se mukhya bAt yah Aye, pUrA pravachan paDhe to bhI yahI bAt Aye. kartR^itvakI bAt kahI.n Aye hI nahI.n. j~nAnakI bAt Aye. isame.n-se paddhati kyA? Aj bahut achChA spaShTIkaraN huA.

samAdhAnaH- tU kartA nahI.n hai, parantu j~nAtA hai aisA Aye. tU j~nAnako grahaN kara.

mumukShuH- ... vaise to kartAbuddhi manda paDatI hai. parantu jAnatA hU.N, vah to merA svabhAv hai. phir bhI koI kAryasiddhi to hotI nahI.n hai. bahut samayase yah abhyAs karate ho. lekin yah bAt satya hai ki gurudevane j~nAn dvArA j~nAyakako hI darshAyA hai. bahut sundara.

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samAdhAnaH- j~nAyak darshAyA hai. kartAbuddhi, use sthUlapane lage ki mai.n kar nahI.n sakatA hU.N. parantu andarame.n jabatak j~nAyak j~nAyakarUp nahI.n huA hai, tabatak use a.ntarame.n kartAbuddhi paDI hai. usake abhiprAyame.n. jo-jo vikalpa Aye, vikalpake sAth usakI kartAbuddhi juDI hai. jab yathArtha j~nAyak j~nAyakarUp pariName, j~nAtA ho, tab use kartR^itva ChUTatA hai. tab usakI svAmitvabuddhi yathArtha rUpase a.ntarame.n-se tab ChUTatI hai. pahale use vichArase ChUTe ki mai.n kartA nahI.n hU.N. mai.n jAnanevAlA hU.N. parantu a.ntarame.n jab yathArtha pariNaman ho-j~nAyak j~nAyakarUp ho-tab usakA kartR^itva ChUTatA hai.

mumukShuH- sabako jAnanevAlA j~nAn AtmAkA lakShaN hai?

samAdhAnaH- vah AtmAkA lakShaN to hai, j~neyako jAnatA hai vah j~nAn to hai, parantu vah dR^iShTikI bhUl hai ki mai.n j~neyako jAnatA hU.N. dR^iShTikI bhUl hai. j~nAn to j~nAn hai, usame.n dR^iShTikI bhUl hai. AtmAkA lakShaN to hai, lekin dR^iShTikI bhUl hai ki mai.n j~neyako... rAgamishrit ho jAtA hai. usame.n rAgako dUr karake, j~neyako bhinna karake akele j~nAnako grahaN kare to j~nAn lakShaN to AtmAkA hai.

mumukShuH- usase bhinnatA kaiso hogI j~neyAkAr j~nAnase? jo sAmAnya j~nAn hai. ApakA kahanA aisA hai ki sAmAnya j~nAn AtmAkA lakShaN hai. j~neyAkAr j~neyamishrit jo hai vah AtmAkA lakShaN nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n. bhinna-bhinnatAvAlA j~nAn, vah j~nAn merA mUl lakShaN nahI.n hai. mUl lakShaN to ek jANak tattva, jAnanevAlA tattva hai vah mai.n hU.N. usako grahaN karanA. jAnanevAlA jo sAmAnya jAnanevAlA.. jAnanevAlA.. jAnanevAlA jo vastukA mUl svabhAv hai usako grahaN karanA, usakA astitva grahaN karanA. usame.n is j~neyako jAnA, is j~neyako jAnA aisA nahI.n. svataHsiddha jAnanevAlA hai. ananta shakti jisame.n jAnanekI hai, vah jAnanevAlA tattva hai vah mai.n hU.N. usako grahaN karanA.

mumukShuH- jo jAnanevAlA tattva hai, vah to lakShya ho gayA.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, lakShya.

mumukShuH- aur lakShaN kyA hai? j~nAnasAmAnya, j~neyAkAr j~nAn nahI.n? j~neyAkArame.n jo sAmAnya j~nAn hai (vah)?

samAdhAnaH- sAmAnyako grahaN karanA. visheSh grahaN nahI.n karake, visheSh dvArA sAmAnyako grahaN karanA. jo dR^iShTAnta AtA hai na? bAdalame.n jo prakAshake kiraN dikhAI dete hai.n, us kiraNake pIChe pUrA sUrya akhaNDa hai, usako grahaN karanA. kShayopasham j~nAnakA bhed jo dekhaneme.n AtA hai, us bhedako grahaN nahI.n karake mUl sUryako grahaN karanA. bAdalame.n jo kiraNe.n hai.n, vah hai to sUryake kiraN, parantu bhed-bhed kiraN mAtra mUl vastu nahI.n

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hai. mUl vastu pUrA dravya (nahI.n hai). vah kiraN kahA.N-se nikalatA hai? us dravyako grahaN karanA.

jo bAdal hai, usame.n jo prakAshakI kiraNe.n dikhatI hai.n, (vah mUl vastu nahI.n hai). mUl sUryako grahaN karanA. prakAshake kiraN use Chinna-bhinna nahI.n karate. vah prakAsh sUryako dikhAte hai.n. usako dikhAte hai.n. aise kShayopashamaj~nAnake bhed hai.n, vah mUl vastuko dikhAte hai.n. usako grahaN karanA.

mumukShuH- khaNDa khaNDa j~nAn bhI akhaNDa vastuko dikhAtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, akhaNDa vastuko dikhAtA hai, usako grahaN karanA.

mumukShuH- to khaNDa khaNDa j~nAnako nA dekhakarake akhaNDa AtmAko dekhanA.

samAdhAnaH- akhaNDa AtmAko dekhanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- khaNDa khaNDa j~nAnake dvArA akhaNDa AtmA dekhA jA sakatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- dekh sakatA hai. dR^iShTi akhaNDa par (jAtI hai). dekh sakatA hai. usakA abhinandan karate hai.n, akhaNDako toDatA nahI.n hai, vah akhaNDako dikhA sakatA hai. lakShaN dvArA lakShya dekhaneme.n AtA hai.

mumukShuH- khaNDa khaNDa j~nAnake dvArA akhaNDa AtmA jAnA jA sakatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- jAn sakatA hai. lakShaNase lakShya pahachAnaneme.n AtA hai. khaNDa khaNDa j~nAnase dikhaneme.n na Ave to svaya.n.. lakShaN aur lakShya, vah to j~nAnakA lakShaN hai. vah to svataHsiddha apane-se apaneko jAnanA. khaNDako gauN karake jAno to apane Apase apaneko jAnA. parantu vyavahAr-se lo to khaNDase akhaNDa jAnA jAtA hai. vyavahArase aisA bIchame.n khaNDa AtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- ... vedanA bhinna aur AtmA bhinna hai. AtmAkA smaraN karanA. j~nAyak AtmA hai usakA bhedaj~nAnakA prayatna karanA. yah karanekA gurudevane kahA hai. vikalpase bhinna AtmA hai use pahachAnanekA prayatna karanA. vedanA sharIrame.n AtI hai, AtmAme.n AtI nahI.n hai. AtmA tattva atya.nt bhinna hai. dev-guuru-shAstrake sAnnidhyame.n to Ap pahale- se rahe ho. aur vahI sa.nskAr (hai), sachamUchame.n to vahI karanekA hai.

mumukShuH- unakI sharaN hai aur ApakI sharaN hai.

samAdhAnaH- ye sab vANI milI, vah mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. aisI vANI milanI aur aisA mArga batAnevAle guru milanA mushkil hai. gurudevane kahA, ek chaitanya AtmAkA Alamban karanA. bAkI sab to vibhAv hai, vikalpa hai. usakA Alamban (ChoDanA). usame.n j~nAn, Ananda sab bharA hai.

chattArI ma.ngala.n, ariha.ntA ma.ngala.n, sAhU ma.ngala.n, kevalipaNatto dhammo ma.ngala.n.

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chattArI loguttamA, ariha.ntA loguttamA, siddhA loguttamA, sAhU loguttamA, kevalipaNatto dhammo loguttamA.

chattArI sharaNa.n pavajjAmi, ariha.ntA sharaNa.n pavajjAmi, siddhA sharaNa.n pavajjAmi, kevalI paNatto dhammo sharaNa.n pavajjAmi.

chAr sharaN, chAr ma.ngal, chAr uttam kare je, bhavasAgarathI tare te sakaL karmano ANe a.nta. mokSha taNA sukh le ana.nt, bhAv dharIne je guN gAye, te jIv tarIne muktie jAya. sa.nsAramA.nhI sharaN chAr, avar sharaN nahI.n koI. je nar-nArI Adare tene akShay avichal pad hoya. a.ngUThe amR^it varase labdhi taNA bhaNDAra. guru gautamane samarIe to sadAy manavA.nChit phal dAtA.

samAdhAnaH- ... phir usame.n lInatA ho, usame.n sthir ho jAy to vikalpa TUTakar svAnubhUti hotI hai. lekin usakA bhedaj~nAn karanA chAhiye. anAdi kAlase ekatvabuddhikA abhyAs hai. yah sharIr mai.n hU.N, yah merA hai, aisI ekatvabuddhi hai. vibhAv mai.n hU.N, vibhAv merA svabhAv hai, aisI ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai. sab vikalpa dekhaneme.n Ate hai.n, chaitanya dekhaneme.n nahI.n AtA hai. chaitanyako dekhanA chAhiye. chaitanyakI pratIti aur chaitanya apanA svabhAv, usako khyAlame.n lenA chAhiye.

usakA-chaitanya tattvakA kaise darshan hove? aisI pratIti kar, aisA bharosA kar, usame.n sthir ho jAnA to chaitanyatattvakI svAnubhUti aur usakA darshan hotA hai. aisA prayog hai. usakI pratIti karanA, j~nAn karanA, bhedaj~nAn karanA. bhedaj~nAnakA bAra.nbAr abhyAs karanA. mai.n chaitanya hU.N, chaitanya hU.N, chaitanya hU.N aisA bhItarame.n-se tattvame.n-se pahachAn karake usakA abhyAs karanA chAhiye. to svAnubhUti hotI hai.

mumukShuH- vichAr, vikalpame.n to mai.n chaitanya hU.N, chaitanya hU.N, jaisA Apane pharamAyA, dhyAnake kAlame.n baiThaneke liye karate hai.n. chaitanya hU.N, chaitanya hU.N sUkShma andarame.n vahIkA vahI raTan chalate rahatA hai. parantu jo anubhUti Apane kI hai, aisA (kuCh hotA nahI.n).

samAdhAnaH- yathArtha svabhAvame.n-se honA chAhiye. vikalpa to bIchame.n AtA hai, parantu vikalpa to sthUl hai. bhItarame.n jo chaitanyakA svabhAv hai vah mai.n hU.N. chaitanyakA astitva grahaN karanA chAhiye. mai.n chaitanyatattva, usakA astitva grahaN karake usame.n sthir honA chAhiye. vikalpamAtra vikalpa-vikalpa to bIchame.n AtA hai, parantu vAstavame.n usakA astitva grahaN karake usame.n sthir honA chAhiye.

vah nahI.n hove tabatak usakA bAra.nbAr-bAra.nbAr abhyAs karanA chAhiye. usake liye tattvakA vichAr, shAstra svAdhyAy Adi sab chaitanyatattvako pahachAnaneke liye karanA chAhiye. bhedaj~nAnakA abhyAsa. chaitanyakI svAnubhUti kaise ho, usake liye karanA chAhiye.

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mumukShuH- dUsarA ek usame.n AtA hai, j~nAn parako jAnatA hai, j~nAn svako jAnatA hai aur j~nAn sva-parako jAnatA hai. to tIn prakArakA aisA j~nAnakA pariNamanake kAlame.n (hotA hai). to svAnubhavake andar jo Chadmastha avasthA hai, to svaparaprakAshakapanA to svAnubhavame.n nahI.n ban pAyagA, vah kaise hogA?

samAdhAnaH- par-or upayog nahI.n hai. isaliye paraj~neyako nahI.n jAnatA hai. parantu apane svame.n upayog hai, sva padArthako jAnatA hai. apane ananta guN aur apanI paryAyako jAnatA hai. isaliye svaparaprakAshak apaneme.n hotA hai. j~ney to bAhya upayog nahI.n hai isaliye nahI.n jAnatA hai. apaneme.n jo ananta guN aur apanI paryAyako jAnatA hai. padArtha aur apane guN-paryAy, aisA svaparaprakAshak anubhavake kAlame.n aisA svaparaprakAshak hotA hai.

mumukShuH- us kAlame.n sva hI AyA.

samAdhAnaH- sva AyA. parantu guNako aur paryAyako jAnatA hai, isaliye usako svaparaprakAshak kahaneme.n AyA. is apekShAse kahaneme.n AtA hai.

mumukShuH- lokAlokakA aur svakA j~nAnachetanA ananta guNamayakA to kevalaj~nAnAdi pratyakSha..

samAdhAnaH- vah to kevalaj~nAname.n hotA hai. ChadmasthakA upayog bAharame.n jAy to bhItar a.ntarame.n AtA hai. to bAharakA upayog nahI.n hai. isaliye parako nahI.n jAnatA hai, svako jAnatA hai. parantu apane guN-paryAyako jAnatA hai. kevalaj~nAn to vItarAg ho gayA isaliye apane ananta guN-paryAy aur parake ananta guN-paryAy, sabako jAnatA hai. usako upayog denA nahI.n paDatA, vah to sahaj jAnatA hai. sahaj pariNati ho gayI, apaneme.n lIn ho gayA. j~nAnakA jaisA svabhAv hai, vaisA jAnanekA svabhAv pragaT ho gayA. to kram-kramase upayog denA paDatA hai (aisA nahI.n rahA), kram-kramase upayog kevalaj~nAnIko denA nahI.n paDatA. isaliye sahaj apane svarUpame.n rahakar sab sahaj jAnatA hai. upayog denA nahI.n paDatA. upayog nahI.n dete hai.n, to bhI jAnate hai.n. aisA pratyakSha j~nAn ho gayA. kram-kram upayog nahI.n denA paDatA.

Chadmasthako kram-kramase upayog detA hai, isaliye aisA kram paDatA hai. bAhyako jAne, bAhar lakShya nahI.n hove tab bhItarako jAnatA hai. Chadmasthako upayog kram-kramase hotA hai na. ek kram paDatA hai to bAharako jAnatA hai. a.ntarame.n jAne to bAhar upayogame.n kram paDatA hai. kevalaj~nAnIko kram nahI.n paDatA hai. lekin usakA svabhAv jo svaparaprakAshak hai usakA nAsh nahI.n hotA. vah to kevalaj~nAname.n pratyakSha ho gayA. parantu Chadmastha avasthAme.n svaparaprakAshakakA nAsh nahI.n hotA hai. badalatA hai. bAharame.n jAy to bAharako jAnA, a.ntarame.n jAy to a.ntarako jAnA.

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mumukShuH- kramikarUpase kArya karatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, kramarUp kArya karatA hai, kramarUp kArya karatA hai. ekasAth kArya karatA hai to sva-par dono.nkA jAnatA hai. isame.n kram paDatA hai, isaliye nahI.n jAnatA hai. parantu bhItarame.n apane ananta guN aur ananta paryAy jo svAnubhUtime.n hote hai.n guN- paryAy, usako to jAnatA hai. usakA vedan hotA hai. vah to jAnatA hai, svAnubhUtime.n.