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mumukShuH- Ap jo astitvakA grahaN kahate ho ki nij astitvakA grahaN karanA. aur trikAl j~nAyakakI dR^iShTi karanI, dono.n ek hI bAt hai?
samAdhAnaH- dono.n ek hI bAt hai. ek j~nAyakame.n trikAl A gayA. vartamAn jisakA astitva j~nAyakarUp hai, vah usakA trikAl astitva hai. vartamAn jo satarUp akhaNDa j~nAyak hai vah to trikAl akhaNDa j~nAyak hI hai.
mumukShuH- .. usakA koI saral upAy?
samAdhAnaH- vah dR^iShTi to svaya.n a.ntarame.n-se jAgR^it ho to ho. dR^iShTi mAtra vikalpa vah to bhAvanA kare, lagan lagAye. a.ntar-se jisako lagI ho usakI dR^iShTi a.ntarame.n jAtI hai. jise a.ntarame.n lagan lage, bAhya dR^iShTi aur bAhya tanmayatAse jo thak gayA hai, jise a.ntarame.n kahI.n chain nahI.n paDatA. bAhya dR^iShTi aur bAhya upayog, bAharakI AkulatAse jisako thakAn lagI hai aur a.ntarame.n kuCh hai, a.ntarake astitvakI jise mahimA lagI hai. a.ntarame.n hI sab hai, aisI jisako a.ntarase mahimA lage to usakI dR^iShTi badal jAtI hai. to vah svaya.n chaitanyako grahaN kar letA hai. jise lage vah grahaN kiye binA nahI.n rahatA. nahI.n to vah Upar-Upar se vichAr karatA rahe. bAkI dR^iShTi palaTaneke liye a.ntarame.n- se lagan lage to dR^iShTi palaTatI hai.
mumukShuH- ... to j~nAt hogA, aisA kah sakate hai.n?
samAdhAnaH- parako jAnanA banda karanA aisA nahI.n. ek kShaN vibhAvame.n-se tanyatA ChoDakar usakA bhedaj~nAn kare to sva j~nAt hogA. jAnane or nahI.n. par-or jo upayog (tanmay ho rahA hai, use ChoDakar), rAg aur vikalpakI ekatvabuddhi toDakar svame.n jA to svakA vedan hogA.
jAnanekA to upayog palaTatA hai. andar jo jAnanekA svabhAv hai, usakA nAsh nahI.n hotA. jAnanekA svabhAv hai usakA nAsh nahI.n hotA. rAgake sAth ekatvabuddhi hai, use kShaNabharake liye toD de. kShaNabar yAnI andarame.n-se aisI praj~nAChainI dvArA usakA aisA bhedaj~nAn kar to svakI svAnubhUti hogI. ek kShaNabharake liye. svabhAv aur vibhAvame.n aisI tIkShNa praj~nAChainI dvArA svaya.n svasanmukh ho jAy, to svakA vedan hogA. usakA
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rAg toDanekA hai, usakI ekatvabuddhi toDanI hai. jAnanA to, anek jAtake vikalpa A gaye to bhI andar jo pratyabhij~nAn jAnanekA svabhAv hai usakA nAsh nahI.n hotA. vah nAsh nahI.n hotA. rAg ChUT jAtA hai.
mumukShuH- jo paribhramaN ho rahA hai vah ekatvabuddhike kAraN hai.
samAdhAnaH- ekatvabuddhike kAraN hai, jAnaneke kAraN nahI.n. ekatvabuddhike kAraN paribhramaN khaDA hai. kevalaj~nAnI lokAlok jAnate hai.n. jAnanA rAgakA kAraN nahI.n hotA. vItarAg dashA, bhedaj~nAn kare, ekatvabuddhi toD de. vah to upayog vahA.N jAtA hai, rAgake sAth ekatva (hai), isaliye tU anyako jAnaneke bajAy svako jAn, aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai. parantu jAnanekA svabhAv toD de, aisA nahI.n kahanA hai. usame.n rAgamishrit upayog hai, us upayogako badal de. aisA. j~ney-orakI ekatvabuddhiko toD de. terI jAnanekI dishA svasanmukh kar de. aisA kahanA hai. isaliye rAg TUT jAtA hai. tere upayogakI dishA badal de, aisA kahanA hai.
mumukShuH- jahA.N svako apanerUp jAnA to usakA samasta j~nAn samyakaj~nAn nAm prApta karatA hai.
samAdhAnaH- hA.N, samyakaj~nAn nAm prApta karatA hai.
mumukShuH- aur usake pahale jabatak parame.n ekatvabuddhi hai, tabatak mithyAj~nAn nAm prApta hotA hai.
samAdhAnaH- mithyAj~nAn nAm prApta hotA hai. dishA pUrI palaT gayI na. pUrI dishA, par sanmukh dishA (thI, vah) sva sanmukh jAnanekI dishA ho gayI, usakA samasta j~nAn samyak rUp ho gayA. usake samasta abhiprAy palaT gaye. (pahale) jAnatA thA usame.n abhiprAyame.n bhUl hotI thI. jahA.N samyak bhedaj~nAn huA to j~nAnakI dishA palaT gayI. usakA pUrA j~nAn samyak rUp pariNamit ho gayA. bhedaj~nAn rUp j~nAn pariNamit huA isaliye usakI jAnaneme.n kahI.n bhUl nahI.n hotI. usake pahale ekatvabuddhi thI, dishA alag thI isaliye jAnaneme.n bhUl hotI thI.
samAdhAnaH- .. dravyake ShaTakArak aur ek dravya aur dUsare dravyake ShaTakArak vah ShaTakArak eva.n paryAyake ShaTakArak, vah ShaTakArak ekasamAn nahI.n hote. vah ShaTakArakame.n pharka hotA hai. paryAy to kShaNik hai, dravya to trikAl hai. paryAy svata.ntra hone par bhI paryAyake ShaTakArak aur dravyake ShaTakArakame.n a.ntar hai. paryAyako dravyakA Ashray to rahatA hai. svata.ntra hone par bhI us paryAyako dravyakA Ashray hotA hai. jitanA dravya svata.ntra, utanI hI paryAy svata.ntra kahaneme.n Aye to vah paryAy nahI.n rahatI, vah dravya ho jAya. isaliye paryAyako dravyakA Ashray hai. isaliye usake ShaTakArak aur dravyake ShaTakArakame.n
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mumukShuH- paryAy svaya.n svata.ntrapane dravyakA Ashray letI huyI pragaT hotI hai. Ap jo kahate ho ki use dravyakA Ashray hai. paryAy pragaT hotI hai svata.ntra, parantu vah dravyakA Ashray letI huyI, apane ShaTakArakase pariNamatI hai. Apane jo kahA barAbar hai. aise hI hai.
samAdhAnaH- dravyake Ashrayase pragaT hotI hai, svata.ntra. kAraN dravya trikAl hai aur paryAy kShaNik hai.
mumukShuH- aur parakA Ashray letI huyI pragaT hotI hai, tabatak dashAme.n Asrav, bandha hai aur jab j~nAyakakA Ashray letI huyI pragaT hotI hai, tab sa.nvar, nirjarA, mokSha pragaT hote hai.n.
samAdhAnaH- sa.nvar, nirjarA, mokSha (pragaT hote hai.n). parake Ashray-se to Asrav hotA hai. nij shuddhAtmAke Ashrayase shuddha paryAy pragaT ho to sa.nvar, nirjarA hai.
samAdhAnaH- ... bhItarame.n-se usako-j~nAyakadevako grahaN karanA. ananta guNakI mUrti divyamUrti chaitanyadeva. usako pahachAnatA hai vah, jinendra dev, guru sabako pIChAnatA hai. jo bhagavAnake dravya-guN-paryAyako pIChAnatA hai, vah apane dravya-guN-paryAyako (pIChAnatA hai).
mumukShuH- bhagavAnake dravya-guN-paryAyakI pahachAname.n to apane dravya-guN-paryAyakI pahachAn hove to vApas vahI ... lag jAyagI, svAnubhakI. ananta bAr bhagavAnake darshan karane gaye, samavasaraName.n gaye, sAkShAt sarvaj~nadevakA bhI kiyA, lekin a.ntar dR^iShTi aur anubhav binA darshan nahI.n huA.
samAdhAnaH- a.ntarame.n bhagavAnakA dravya kyA hai? kyA karatA hai? svAnubhUti bhagavAnane vItarAg dashA pragaT kI, use pahachAnA nahI.n aur bAharase darshan kiyA, isaliye... jo yathArtha pIChAn kare to apane dravya-guN-paryAyakI pIChAn letA hai.
mumukShuH- bhagavAnakA to paradravya, guN, paryAy unakI pahachAn karaneme.n to upayogakI to parasanmukhatA rahatI hai. phir apanI pahachAnake liye to vApas svasanmukhatAkA jor ho.
samAdhAnaH- dR^iShTi to apane par denI hai. parantu nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha hai. isaliye shAstrame.n aisA kahA hai. nimitta aur upAdAnakA sambandha hai. bhagavAn taraphalakShya
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kare apanI or jAtA hai to bhagavAn-orakA lakShya ChUT jAtA hai aur svasanmukhatA ho jAtI hai. bhagavAn-orakA rAg ChUT jAy aur apanI or apanI shraddhA ho tab apaneko (pahachAnatA hai). rAg to vItarAg dashA ho tabatak rahatA hai, parantu bhedaj~nAn hotA hai. bhagavAnakI or yah rAg (jAtA hai, vah) aur mai.n bhinna hU.N, aisA bhedaj~nAn ho jAtA hai. usakA bhedaj~nAn ho jAtA hai.
mumukShuH- kevalI bhagavAnako to pratyakSha AtmAke pradesh vagairah anubhavame.n jAnaneme.n .. Adi pratyakSha lagate hai.n. unako to kevalaj~nAn ho jAnese ... lekin apane to svAnubhavake kAlame.n AtmAke pradesh AdikA pratyakSharUp (nahI.n hotA).
samAdhAnaH- bhagavAnako kevalaj~nAn hai, isaliye pratyakSha jAnate hai.n. pradesh aur sab dravya, guN, paryAyako pratyakSha jAnate hai.n. lokAlok sabako pratyakSha (jAnate hai.n). svAnubhavake kAlame.n aur vedan pratyakSha hai. apanA svAnubhav pratyakSha hai. pradesh usako pratyakSha nahI.n hote hai.n. anubhav pratyakSha hai na. apanA Ananda aur svAnubhUti pratyakSha hai.
mumukShuH- svAnubhavako Apane pratyakSha pharamAyA to...
samAdhAnaH- parokSha kahaneme.n AtA hai. kevalaj~nAnakI apekShAse parokSha (kahaneme.n AtA hai). kyo.nki mati-shrut hai vah parokSha hai. isaliye parokSha kahaneme.n AtA hai. parantu svAnubhUti hai vah pratyakSha hai. apane vedan huA vah pratyakSha hai. to apekShAse pratyakSha kahaneme.n AtA hai, usako parokSha bhI kahaneme.n AtA hai. mati-shrut to manakA avalamban rahatA hai isaliye parokSha kahaneme.n AtA hai. parantu parokSha aisA nahI.n hai ki kuCh jAnaneme.n nahI.n AtA. vedan to pratyakSha hai.
mumukShuH- koI ek dR^iShTAnta.
samAdhAnaH- misharI khAtA hai to usakA svAd apaneko AtA hai, vah svAd kahI.n aisA nahI.n hai ki parokSha hai, koI anumAn nahI.n karatA hai. misharIkA svAd hai vah svAd to pratyakSha hai. andheko misharI khilAo to kaisA AkAr hai? kaisA varNa hai? vah nahI.n jAnatA. parantu jo svAd hotA hai vah svAd to pratyakSha hotA hai. andheko misharI (khilAyI) vah svAd to pratyakSha hotA hai.
aise svAnubhUtime.n asa.nkhyAt pradesh ginatIme.n nahI.n Ate. parantu usakA jo vedan hotA hai vah to pratyakSha hotA hai. jaise andheko misharI (khilAyI). to svAd, shakkarakI mIThAs hai vah to use pratyakSha hotI hai. vaise svAnubhUtike kAlame.n Ananda aur usake ananta guN-paryAyakA vedan (hotA hai), vah vedan pratyakSha hotA hai.
mumukShuH- kal ApashrIne pharamAyA thA ki jaise vikalpo.nko jAn letA hai, vaise hI arUpI j~nAnako j~nAn jAn letA hai. kaise?
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samAdhAnaH- vikalpa bhI jAnaneme.n AtA hai ki vikalpa AyA, vikalpa AyA, vikalpa AyA. vaise j~nAn bhI jAnaneme.n AtA hai. arUpI hai to bhI jAnaneme.n AtA hai ki yah j~nAn.. j~nAn.. j~nAn hai. arUpI hove to bhI j~nAn jAnaneme.n AtA hai.
... pratyakSha kar liyA hai. unako dravya-guN-paryAy, asa.nkhyAt pradesh sab pratyakSha j~nAn (gochar) hai. isaliye unakI vANI nimitta hotI hai. apaneko to upAdAn-se hotA hai. upAdAn apanA aur bhagavAnakI vANI nimitta hotI hai. lakShya apaneko denA hai. bAhar lakShya kare ki bhagavAn aise hai.n, aise hai.n to svasanmukh dR^iShTi nahI.n hotI. parantu bhagavAn hai vaisA mai.n hU.N, aise dR^iShTi a.ntarmukh kare to svAnubhUti hotI hai. svAnubhUti, kevalaj~nAn jaisA nahI.n hai ki kevalaj~nAn sab pratyakSha jAnatA hai, aisA. parantu usakA vedan aur Ananda aur usake ananta guN Adi vedaname.n AtA hai vah pratyakSha hai. dekhaneme.n nahI.n AtA hai ki aise asa.nkhya pradesh hai.
mumukShuH- itanA durlabh kyo.n paD rahA hai? Apake nikaTame.n, gurudevashrIke pAsame.n ham sab bhAI-bahan bahut samayase (rahate hai.n).
samAdhAnaH- puruShArtha apaneko karanA paDatA hai. anAdikA abhyAs hai aur bAhar upayog jAtA hai. dishA palaT denI hai. dishA palaTanI hai. apanA svabhAv hai isaliye sulabh hai. parantu anAdikA abhyAs hai isaliye bAhar dauDatA hai. bAr-bAr dauDatA hai, a.ntarame.n nahI.n jAtA hai. isaliye durlabh ho rahA hai. aise-aise chakkar khAtA hai. apanI or nahI.n jAtA hai, isaliye durlabh ho jAtA hai.
svabhAv hai isaliye sulabh hai. jisako hotA hai usako a.ntarmuhUrtama.n hotA hai, nahI.n hotA hai usako kAl lagatA hai. bhagavAnake samavasaraName.n a.ntarmuhUrtame.n kevalaj~nAn prApta kar letA hai, koI muni ban jAtA hai, kisIko samyagdarshan hotA hai. aisA a.ntarmuhUrtame.n bhI hotA hai. kisIko abhyAs karane-se hotA hai. yah to pa.nchamakAl hai. isaliye durlabhatA dekhaneme.n AtI hai. parantu svabhAv hai apanA to puruShArtha karane-se ho sakatA hai.
mumukShuH- prashna liyA hai rAjamalajI pANDe sAhabane ki kevalI bhagavAnake j~nAname.n- no.ndhame.n kaun jIv kab mokSha jAyagA. aur aisA bhI AyA ki DhAI pudagal parAvartan kAl jisakA sheSh rah jAyagA, usake bAd vah samyagdarshan prApta karegA. to phir Udhar jor kyo.n diyA gayA? idhar svabhAv par puruShArthakA jor hogA to svAnubhav hogA.
samAdhAnaH- bhagavAnake j~nAname.n, bhagavAnake kevalaj~nAnakA svabhAvako batAte hai.n ki bhagavAnake j~nAname.n sab hai. kab, kaun-sA jIv mokSha jAyagA. bhagavAn to sab jAnate hai.n. bhagavAnake kevalaj~nAnakI bAt kahI hai ki kevalaj~nAname.n to sab A gayA hai. parantu bhagavAnane aisA jAnA hai ki yah jIv puruShArtha karane-se mokSha jAyagA. bin puruShArtha-
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se mokSha jAyagA aisA bhagavAnake j~nAname.n nahI.n AyA hai. bhagavAnake j~nAname.n aisA AyA hai ki yah jIv itane kAlake bAd puruShArtha karegA aur mokSha jAyagA. puruShArtha karegA, AtmAkI svAnubhUti karegA aur vItarAgatA, munidashA pragaT karegA aur mokSha jAyagA. puruShArtha karane-se mokSha jAyagA, aisA bhagavAnake j~nAname.n AyA hai. bin puruShArtha-se mokSha jAyagA aisA bhagavAnake j~nAname.n nahI.n AyA hai.
mumukShuH- bhagavAnakI vANI sunate hai.n aur aisA jAnaneme.n AtA hai to phir a.ntarame.n- se yah to nakkI ho jAtA hai ki hamArA jIv, kevalI bhagavAnane nirvAN honekA aur samyagdarshan honekA samay dekh liyA hai, us samay jarUr hamArA puruShArtha svabhAvake sanmukh hogA, hogA aur hogA. to phir vishvAs AtA hai ki ham aise sharaName.n A gaye hai.n, pUjya mAtAjI anubhUti devIke, to aisI bAt sunaneko mil rahI hai to ye bhI koI upAdAn hamArA jAgR^it hai.
samAdhAnaH- vishvAs AtA hai, lekin puruShArtha to apaneko karanA paDatA hai. jisako apUrva ruchi hotI hai usakI mukti hotI hai. gurudev kahate the ki tatprati prIti chitten vArtA pi hI shrutAH. a.ntar prItise vArtA bhI sunI, a.ntar apUrvatAse (sunI) to bhAvi nirvAN bhAjanama. apanI kaisI pariNati hai vah svaya.n jAn sakatA hai ki kaise merI pariNati hotI hai, mujhe kaisI apUrvatA lagatI hai, merI kaisI ruchi hai, apane Ap apanA nirNay kar sakatA hai ki mai.n puruShArtha karu.NgA, aisA karu.NgA.
mumukShuH- anubhUtiko viShay banAneke liye .. vedaname.n sukh AtA hai, aisA AtmA bhI j~nAname.n AtA hai? aisA prashna rah jAtA hai ki paryAy jo hai, bhAvaman hai, vah sthAnavisheSh- se hI AtmAko pakaDatA hai yA sarvA.ng jo pUre Atma pradesho.nme.n paryAy vyApta hai, to paryAy pUrA sarvA.ng AtmAko pakaDatI hai yA sthAnavisheSh-se paryAy pakaDatI hai?
samAdhAnaH- yahA.N to man hai na, isaliye aisA kahate hai.n ki yahA.N-se pakaDatA hai. parantu vah pakaDatI to hai dravyako na, akhaNDa dravyako pakaDatI hai, grahaN karatI hai. akhaNDako grahaN karatI hai. jahA.N-se pakaDe vahA.N-se pakaDanA to apaneko hai na.
mumukShuH- j~nAnaparyAy sarvA.ng hai na. asa.nkhya pradeshame.n j~nAnaparyAy bhI hai. j~nAnaparyAy sarvA.ngase AtmAko j~nAname.n pakaDatI hai yA bhAvaman sthAnavisheSh-se hI pakaDatI hai?
samAdhAnaH- bhAvaman AyA to usame.n sab A jAtA hai. bhAvaman mukhya rahA to usame.n sarvA.ng A jAtA hai. vah mukhya rahatA hai to ek taraph-se nahI.n pakaDaneme.n AtA hai, ek taraph-se pakaDaneme.n AtA hai aisA nahI.n hotA. bhAvaman to nimitta banatA hai aur vahA.N-se grahaN kare to sarvA.ng pakaDatA hai apane AtmAko.
mumukShuH- usame.n aisA kahanA hai inakA ki jaise A.Nkh-se dekhate hai.n to kisI
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puruShako dekhanA ho to A.Nkh-se hI dekhe.nge, yahA.N-se nahI.n dekh sakate na. aisA. ... karatA hai, kisI puruShako dekhanA ho, vastuko dekhanA ho to A.NkhakA pradesh khulA huA hai to vahA.N-se vah us puruShako dekh sakatA hai. usI prakAr jab AtmAko grahaN karane jAte hai.n to idhar to vah bhAvaman hai nahI.n, idhar hai nahI.n, idhar hai nahI.n. jahA.N jisakA sthAn hai, us sthAn-se hI grahaN karatA hai yA sarva pradesho.nse vah grahaN karatA hai?
samAdhAnaH- bhAvaman to nimitta hai. j~nAnase grahaN karanA hai na. j~nAnase grahaN karanA hai. to j~nAn to sarvA.ng hotA hai. ... isaliye vahA.N-se kahaneme.n AtA hai. bhAvaman nimitta banatA hai. parantu grahaN to sarvA.ng-se hotA hai. j~nAn-se grahaN karanA hai. man-se grahaN karanA hai (usame.n) man to nimitta hotA hai. A.Nkh hai vah to... bhAvamanake nimittame.n j~nAn-se grahaN karanA hai. j~nAn to sarvA.ng-se grahaN karatA hai. nimitta bhAvaman banatA hai, parantu grahaN sarvA.ng-se hotA hai.
mumukShuH- paryAy sarvA.ng grahaN karake AtmAko pakaDatI hogI? sarvA.ng AtmA hai to sarvA.ng j~nAnaparyAy bhI hai. j~nAnaparyAy vahI.n ke vahI.n AtmAko svIkAr karatI hai? pUrI paryAy samuchchay AtmAko vahI.n ke vahI.n svIkAr karatI hogI?
samAdhAnaH- paryAy sarvA.ng AtmAko grahaN karatI hai.
mumukShuH- bhAvaman nimittamAtra hai.
samAdhAnaH- bhAvaman nimitta banatA hai. isaliye kahaneme.n AtA hai ki man-se hotA hai. aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai. shAstrame.n bhI AtA hai. thoDA grahaN huA, idhar-se huA, idhar-se nahI.n huA. idhar-se ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai aur idhar-se grahaN ho gayA hai, aisA nahI.n. bhAvaman nimitta banatA hai, parantu grahaN sarvA.ng hotA hai.
mumukShuH- AtmAke pradesho.nme.n AnandakI .. detA hai, us apekShAse usako ghaTA sakate hai.n. lekin nimittakI apekShA to bhAvaman hI nimitta paDatA hai. usI daravAjeke mAdhyam- se andar j~nAnakI paryAy svasanmukh andarame.n jAkar sarvA.ngame.n Ananda detI hai. us apekShAse. lekin yahA.N-se bhI jAn letA hogA, yahA.N-se bhI jAnatA hogA. nahI.n, asa.nj~nI pa.nchendriy tak to svAnubhUti karanekI yogyatA hI nahI.n khulI hai, mAtAjI! isaliye mai.nne kahA.
samAdhAnaH- bhAvaman nimitta hotA hai. ... grahaN usase hotA hai. manake dvArA hotA hai, bhAvaman-manake nimittake dvArA apaneko bhItarame.n jAtA hai. man nimitta hotA hai.
samAdhAnaH- ... svarUp pahachAnanA. AtmA kyA hai? usakA kyA svarUp hai? sharIr bhinna hai, AtmA bhinna hai. bhItarame.n AtmA j~nAnasvabhAv j~nAyak hai, usako pahachAnanA. vikalpa bhI AtmAkA svabhAv nahI.n hai. usase bhedaj~nAn karanA. bhedaj~nAnake liye bAra.nbAr AtmAk raTan karanA. shAstra svAdhyAy, vichAr, chi.ntavan, janma-maraN karate-karate shubhabhAv
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bahut kiye, puNyabandha huA, devalok huA lekin AtmAkA bhavakA abhAv nahI.n huA, mukti nahI.n huyI. mukti to bhItarame.n hai. bhItarame.n-se svAnubhUti hotI hai, bAhar-se hotA nahI.n. puNyabandha hotA hai, devalok hotA hai. bhavakA abhAv nahI.n hotA. bhavakA abhAv to AtmAko pahachAnane-se hotA hai. isaliye usako pIChAnanA chAhiye.
anubhavake pahale mai.n kaun hU.N? merA kyA svabhAv hai? usakI lagan laganI chAhiye. usakI mahimA honI chAhiye. sabakuCh AtmAme.n hai, sarvasva AtmAme.n hai. bAharame.n kuCh nahI.n hai. bAharame.n sukh nahI.n hai, bAharame.n-se kuCh AtA nahI.n hai. sukh, j~nAn sab AtmAke svabhAvame.n hai. jo jisame.n hove usame.n-se nikalatA hai, usame.n-se pragaT hotA hai. jisakA jo svabhAv ho usame.n dR^iShTi de to nikalatA hai.
ChoTIpIpar hai usako ghisate-ghisate, gurudev kahate the, charaparAI pragaT hotI hai. vaise AtmAkA svabhAv pahachAne to svabhAvame.n-se j~nAn, Ananda sab AtmAme.n-se pragaT hotA hai. bAhar-se nahI.n AtA hai. a.ntarame.n-se AtA hai. pahale usakA bhedaj~nAn karanA. usakA bAra.nbAr abhyAs karanA. bAdame.n vikalpa toDakarake svabhAvame.n svAnubhUti hotI hai.