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mumukShuH- dR^iShTime.n pUrNatAkA lakShya aur prayojaname.n aisA kahe ki abhI nyUnatA hai, pUrNatA prApta karanI hai.

samAdhAnaH- abhI nyUnatA hai, chAritra bAkI hai-lInatA bAkI hai. dravyapane abhed hai, parantu abhI paryAy sva-or pUrNarUpase shuddha nahI.n huyI hai. shuddhatAkI paryAy jo pragaT honI chAhiye vah pUrNa shuddha (nahI.n hai). dravya aur guN anAdiananta ekasAth hai. paryAy to kShaN-kShaName.n, kShaN-kShaName.n palaTatI rahatI hai. paryAy jo vibhAv-or thI, vah svabhAv- or gayI, isaliye A.nshik shuddha to huyI, parantu abhI lInatA bAkI hai. dR^iShTike sAth juDI jo paryAy hai vah paryAy utanI shuddha huyI, parantu abhI lInatAkI bAkI hai.

mumukShuH- utanA bhed paDatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, utanA bhed paDatA hai. nahI.n to turanta kevalaj~nAn ho jAnA chAhiye. svAnubhUtime.n turanta kevalaj~nAn nahI.n ho jAtA. svAnubhUti a.nsharUp hai. kevalaj~nAn, vItarAgatA turatna nahI.n hotI. kisIko a.ntarmuhUrtame.n ho jAtI hai, vah alag bAt hai. to bhI usame.n kram to paDatA hI hai.

mumukShuH- .. dravyakA avalmaban hai...

samAdhAnaH- puruShArthakI kachAs hai. kisIkI pariNati aisI hai ki a.ntarmuhUrtame.n ekadam puruShArtha utpanna ho jAtA hai. kisIkI pariNati aisI hai ki dhIre-dhIre utpanna hotI hai. jo apanI or muDA, svAnubhUti pragaT huyI, use avashya vItarAg dashA honevAlI hI hai. kisIko dhIre hotI hai, kisIko jaldI hotI hai.

mumukShuH- kam-jyAdA samay to gauN hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, kam-jyAdA (samay gauN hai). puruShArthakI utanI pariNatikI kShati hai, puruShArthakI kShati hai.

mumukShuH- ...puruShArthakI mukhyatA..

samAdhAnaH- puruShArthakI mukhyatA rakhanI.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- koI aisA kahe ki kramabaddhame.n aisA honevAlA thA. parantu puruShArthakI

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mukhyatApUrvakakA kramabaddha hai. jisake lakShyame.n puruShArtha nahI.n hai, vah Age nahI.n baDh sakatA. kramabaddha bhale sAthame.n ho, parantu jisake lakShyame.n puruShArtha nahI.n hai (vah Age nahI.n baDh sakatA). kramabaddha puruShArthake sAth juDA hai.

mumukShuH- paryAy shuddha ho jAtI hai? kramabaddhake sAth puruShArtha Aye to paryAy shuddha ho jAtI hai?

samAdhAnaH- puruShArtha utpanna ho, isaliye usakA kramabaddha ho jAtA hai. puruShArtha apanI or-j~nAyak or kare to kramabaddha jaisA hai vaisA ho jAtA hai. usakI dR^iShTi puruShArtha par honI chAhiye, usakA lakShya puruShArtha par honA chAhiye. use khaTak rahanI chAhiye ki merI mandatA hai, mai.n Age nahI.n baDh pAtA hU.N. yadi aisA usake khyAlame.n rahe ki kramabaddhame.n jaisA honevAlA hogA vah hogA, mai.n kyA karu.N? honevAlA hogA, honevAlA hogA, aisA karatA rahe to use honevAlA hogA, aisA hI rahegA. parantu jisakI bhAvanAme.n khaTak rahe to hI usakA kramabaddha puruShArthake sAth juDA hai. aisA kramabaddha aur puruShArthakA sambandha hai. svabhAv, kAl, puruShArtha Adi sab juDe hai.n.

mumukShuH- pA.Ncho.n samavAyakA mel hai. usame.n puruShArthakI mukhyatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- usame.n puruShArthakI mukhyatA (hai). sAdhakako, ruchivAleko sabako puruShArtha- or, apanI or, apanI bhUl taraph usakI dR^iShTi rahanI chAhiye ki merI kShati hai. kramabaddha aur karmakA uday (lekar) jo apanI kShati nahI.n ginatA hai, usako dhIrApan aur kachAs rahegI hI. jo apanI kShatikI or jAtA hai, phir bhale kar nahI.n sakatA, parantu apanI kShatikI or hI usakI dR^iShTi rahatI hai, vahI Age baDhatA hai. aisA puruShArtha aur kramabaddhakA sambandha hai.

mumukShuH- kShati hai, usame.n koI aisA kahe ki isame.n to doSh par dR^iShTi rahatI hai.

samAdhAnaH- doSh par dR^iShTi,.. guN par dR^iShTi gayI, parantu jo sAdhak dashA hai, usakI bhAvanAme.n sab AtA hai ki mai.n paripUrNa chaitanyasvarUp j~nAyak hU.N. parantu merI nyUnatA hai. nyUnatAkI or use vichAr Aye binA nahI.n rahate. bhAvanA hue binA nahI.n rahatI. kaise ye sab vibhAv ChUTe, mai.n svabhAvame.n rahU.N. vibhAv ChUTe, puruShArtha karu.N aisI bhAvanA hI na ho, aisA nahI.n hotA. dono.n prakArakI bhAvanA to hotI hai. use doShase kaise ChUTe? aur mai.n svabhAv taraph dR^iShTi karu.N, lIn hoU.N to ChUTegA, aisA samajhatA hai. merI lInatAkI kShati hai. isaliye yah kShati hai. mere guN pragaT ho to doSh Tale. aisA vah barAbar samajhatA hai. parantu bhAvanA to sab prakArakI AtI hai.

merI kShati hai, merA doSh hai, mai.n lInatA karu.N to ho. aisI bhAvanA to AtI hai. ye rAg kaise ChUTe? yah kaise ChUTe? chAritra dashA kaise Aye? kab vItarAg hoU.N? aisI

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bhAvanA to Aye binA nahI.n rahatI. bhAvanA to sab AtI hai. usake j~nAname.n vah aisA samajhatA hai aur dR^iShTikA jor apane dravya par hai ki yah dravyakI dR^iShTaShTi hai vah joradAr hai. lekin vah j~nAname.n samajhatA hai ki mai.n lIn hoU.N to yah ChUT jAy aisA hai. merI lInatAkI kShati hai. sva taraph dekhatA hU.N to merI lInatAkI kShati hai. is or dekhU.N to mere puruShArthakI kShati hai. sarva prakArakI bhAvanA to AtI hai. ek jAtakI bhAvanA (nahI.n hotI). sAdhak dashAme.n ek prakArakI nahI.n hotI, sarva prakArakI bhAvanA AtI hai.

mumukShuH- sAdhakako dR^iShTike jor pUrvak doShakA j~nAn bhI barAbar hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, doShakA j~nAn ho, guNakA j~nAn ho, svakA j~nAn ho, parakA j~nAn ho. sab j~nAn hotA hai. rAjakAj karate chakravartI ho, are..! merI kShati hai, mai.n isame.n- se kab ChUTU.N? mai.n kab lIn hoU.N? muni kab hoU.N? aisI sab bhAvanA, vairAgyakI bhAvanA to AtI hI hai. dhanya munidashA! jo muni banakar chale jAte hai.n. mai.n abhI isame.n khaDA hU.N. aisI bhAvanA to AtI hai.

mumukShuH- savikalpa dashAme.n aise sab vikalpa Ate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- vichAr (Ate hai.n).

mumukShuH- ... dR^iShTikA jor to jyo.nkA tyo.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, dR^iShkiA jor hone par bhI sAdhak dashAme.n aise vichAr Ate hai.n. nahI.n to vItarAg ho jAya. akele guN par ho to guNakI pariNati pragaT honI chAhiye. mAtra guN taraph hI rahatA ho to guNakI pariNati guNarUp ho jAnI chAhiye. andar vibhAv hotA hai aur use TAlanekA vichAr na Aye, aisA nahI.n banatA. mai.n lIn hoU.N, sva taraph jAU.N to sahaj hI ChUTatA hai. sahaj dashA ho to sahaj ChUTatA hai, aisA use khyAl hai. to bhI bhAvanA sab AtI hai. us par use vajan nahI.n hai. aisI vastu sthiti nahI.n hai ki doSh taraph dR^iShTi rakhanI. aisI vastu sthiti nahI.n hai. nij dravya par dR^iShTi hai. j~nAn sva-orakA hotA hai. parantu sab jAnatA to (hai). dishA apanI or muD gayI hai, lInatA apanI or karatA hai, parantu bhAvanA to sab AtI hai.

mumukShuH- phir yah sahaj j~nAname.n yah sab bhI..

samAdhAnaH- yah sab AtA hai.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- sab, bhAvanA to sab AtI hai. dR^iShTike jorame.n dravya to jaisA hai vaisA hai. mai.n puruShArthakA piNDa hU.N, aisA dR^iShTime.n Aye isaliye puruShArtha karanA hI nahI.n, aisA usakA artha nahI.n hotA.

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mumukShuH- pariNatime.n aisA nahI.n hotA.

samAdhAnaH- pariNatime.n aisA nahI.n hotA. use sab vivek to honA chAhiye... doSh par vajan chalA jAy, aisA nahI.n hai. dR^iShTikA jor sAthame.n hai. phir na ho to AkulatA ho ki ulajhaname.n A jAy, aisA use nahI.n hotA. parantu samajhatA hai ki merI kShati hai. mai.n lIn hoU.N to yah sab ChUT jAya. parantu mujhe lInatA kaise ho? aisI bhAvanA rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- mahimA nahI.n AtI, ... doShakA khyAl hai, dR^iShTikA jor to j~nAyak hU.N, vah hai.

samAdhAnaH- .. dR^iShTikA kahe aur chAritrakI bAt ho to chAritrakA kahe. sarva prakArakI bAt Aye. gurudev, ananta kAlase jIv bhramame.n paDe hai.n, unhe.n dR^iShTikI bAt jor-se batAye, sva-par ekatva-vibhaktakI bAt durlabh hai, jIvane sunI nahI.n hai. svame.n ekatva aur parase vibhakta, vah bAt (durlabh hai). gurudev to dR^iShTikI bAt kare. parantu prasa.ng par sab bAt gurudevake pravachaname.n sab bAt AtI thI. chAro.n orakI bAte.n AtI thI. jab paryAy-orakI Aye to itane jor-se (kahe) aur dUsare ra.ng jAy, aisI bAt paryAy-orakI AtI thI.

mumukShuH-

samAdhAnaH- chAro.n taraphakI bAt gurudevake (pravachaname.n) AtI thI. vairAgya taraphakI bAt aisI Aye ki dUsare log Dolane lage. munikI bAt, bachcho.nkI karate the, gurudev kaisI bAt karate the. gurudev chAro.n taraphakI bAt (karate the). ham Aj hI dharma a.ngIkAr kare.nge, ham Aj hI munipanA le.nge. gurudevakI sarva prakArakI bAt AtI thI.

samAdhAnaH- vah Age baDhaneme.n ulajh jAtA ho to ek jAnanekI bAt hai ki kramabaddha hai. merI kShati hai, aisA svaya.nko puruShArthakA lakShya to rahanA chAhiye.

.. dveSh arochak bhAva. parakI ruchi toDate-toDate use pasInA nikal jAtA hai. aise usako ruchi hotI hai ki AtmAkA karane jaisA hai. parantu ekatvabuddhi toDate-toDate use mushkil ho jAtA hai. ananta kAlakA abhyAs hai na isaliye. prayAs kar-karake khed ho jAy, thak jAtA hai. vahA.N jAy, prayAs kare, abhI bhI prApta nahI.n ho rahA hai, prayAs karate-karate thak jAy, khed ho jAtA hai. ... aisA hotA nahI.n hai, parantu usake vishvAsame.n chalAyamAn ho jAtA hai. puruShArthakI kShati hai.

... kaisI kar dI hai. vah svaya.n hai bhinna, parantu sthUl ho gayA hai. svaya.nne hI ekatva abhyAs kar-karake (kiyA hai). jitanA abhyAsakA jor kiyA, utanA ananta kAl us abhyAsame.n rahA. ab use kShaN bhar to jor karanA hI paDe na. is ananta

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kAlake abhyAsake (sAmane). ananta kAlakA abhyAs kiyA, usake sAmane ananta kAl abhyAs karaneme.n nahI.n jAtA hai. bhale abhyAs kare dhIre-dhIre to thoDA samay lage, parantu ugra kare to ChaH mahine lagatA hai. parantu a.ntim kShaNo.nme.n use ek kShaN to jor karanA hI paDatA hai, anAdikA abhyAs toDaneko. jitanA kAl usakA abhyAs karaneme.n vyatIt kiyA, utanA kAl nahI.n lagatA hai. parantu kShaN bhar to jor karanA hI paDatA hai.

... karake thak jAtA hai, khed ho jAtA hai. bhay aur arochak bhAvako vah pakaD nahI.n sakatA hai. gaharAIme.n jAy to andar ruchi bhale AtmAkI ho, parantu ekatvabuddhi toDate-toDate use takalIph hotI hai. ekatvakI pariNati ho gayI hai. ruchi apanI or hai, parantu ekatvakI pariNati ho gayI hai, use toDaneme.n takalIph hotI hai.

.... guN-paryAy kaho, utpAd-vyay-dhruv kaho. ye utpAd-vyay-dhruv mere, .. use barAbar pahachAnakar bhedaj~nAn kare. praj~nAChainI, usakI sandhi dekhakar use barAbar toDanA. koI jagah sUkShma sandhi bhI nahI.n rahatI. ek samAn bhAg ho jAtA hai. usakI sandhi dekhakar vibhAg kare to sUkShma sandhi nahI.n rahatI. to hI vibhAv huA aisA kahaneme.n Aye. sUkShma sandhi rahe to utanA chIpakA rahe, to do bhAg bhinna nahI.n ho jAte. patthar ho, usame.n sUkShma sandhi ho to bhI patthar ek jagah chIpakA rahatA hai. to bhI chIpakA rahatA hai. vahA.N bhI sUkShmame.n vah chIpakA nahI.n.

sUkShmame.n guNake bhed, paryAyake bhed, jo rAgamishrit bhAv jahA.N-jahA.N Aye, vahA.N-se bhinna paD jAtA hai. j~nAname.n sab ho. parantu ekatvabuddhi jahA.N-jahA.N ho, vahA.N-se bhinna paD jAtA hai. dUsare shubhabhAv, jahA.N svaya.nko bahut ras Aye aise bhAv, guNake bhed, paryAyake bhed, usame.n rAgamishrit jo-jo sUkShma-sUkShma Ate ho, sabame.n praj~nAChainI chAro.n taraph- se paTakatI hai. aur ek samAn do vibhAv kar detI hai. yah chaitanyakA bhAg aur yah vibhAvakA bhAg hai. utanA j~nAn kare, itanA kare to bhI kahI.n-kahI.n shubhabhAvo.nme.n mIThAs rah jAtI hai.

mumukShuH- ... paryAy to vyay ho gayI hai.

samAdhAnaH- paryAy dUsarI ho gayI, parantu dravyame.n yogyatA hai. sarvathA bhinnatA to nahI.n hai. sabame.n apekShAse samajhanI. pratyabhij~nAnakA kAraN jo sAmAnya svabhAv hai, pratyabhij~nAnakA kAraN jo dravya hai, usame.n-se use sphUraNA hotI hI rahatI hai. sa.nskAr hote hai.n.

mumukShuH- sa.nskAr dravyame.n yogyatA rUp rahate hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, yogyatA rUp rahate hai.n.

mumukShuH- paryAy to vyatirek hai.

samAdhAnaH- paryAy to chalI gayI hai, vyatirek ho jAtI hai. sab paryAy bhinna-

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bhinna hai.n. vah sab svata.ntra hai.n aur ek or kahe.n ki dravyake Ashray-se hai. dravyakA Ashray na ho to ananta kAlame.n jo-jo use banA hai, vah sab kahA.N-se (AtA hai)? andar use sphUraNAme.n AtA hai. andar sa.nskAr hai. paryAy chalI gayI hai to bhI.

mumukShuH- sa.nskAr rah jAte hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- sa.nskAr rah jAte hai.n. us paryAyane kAm kiyA, is paryAyako koI bhI mel nahI.n hai, use koI mel nahI.n hai. to phir dravya bilakUl bhinna ho gayA. to svaya.n jo muktikA mArga pragaT karatA hai, yah vibhAv merA nahI.n hai, svabhAv pragaT karo, ek paryAyako dUsarI paryAyake sAth mel hI nahI.n hai to phir karanA kahA.N rahatA hai? kuCh nahI.n rahA. TUkaDe ho gaye. bIchame.n ek nitya shAshvat dravya hai. paryAy palaT jAtI hai. dravya hai. sarva apekShAkA mel karake sAdhanA karane jaisI hai. kab, kahA.N, kisakA vajan dekar karanA hai (vah samajhanA chAhiye).

mumukShuH- .. aur katha.nchit usakI svata.ntratA dravyase..

samAdhAnaH- vah bhI hai. katha.nchit svata.ntratA hai aur usake Ashrayase hotI hai vah bhI hai. dono.n apekShA (samajhanI).

mumukShuH- ... aur parakA dravya svata.ntra hai, un dono.nme.n katha.nchit.. jis apekShA- se dravyakA Ashray hai, us apekShA-se dravyakA Ashray hai hI aur jis apekShA-se paryAy dravya-se svata.ntra hai, us apekShA-se paryAy svata.ntra hai, aisA lenA hai?

samAdhAnaH- dravyakA Ashray hai. paryAyako dravyakA Ashray bhI hai, vah apekShA bhI hai. aur katha.nchit svata.ntra hai, vah apekShA bhI hai. pratyek paryAy svata.ntra pariNamatI hai. paraspar ekadUsareke Ashray-se pariNamatI hai, aisA nahI.n hai. svata.ntra pariNamatI hai. parantu dravyake Ashray-se pariNamatI hai, aisI apekShA bhI hai. bilakUl sarvathA svata.ntra ho to jitanI paryAy, utane dravya ho jAya. bilakUl svata.ntra (ho to) jitanI paryAy, utane dravya ban jAya.

dravya hai vah trikAl hai, shAshvat hai. shaktio.n-se bharapUr dravya hai. paryAy to ek kShaNake liye hai. jis kShaN pariNamit hokar Aye, utanA hai usame.n. ek kShaN paryAy pariName, usase to ananta shakti-se bharapUr dravya hai. vibhAv paryAy alag bAt hai, svabhAv paryAyame.n to ananta shakti-se bharapUr svabhAvaparyAy to usame.n ananta jo Aye, usase atirikta dravyame.n ananta bharA hai. paryAyakI shakti to amuk hai aur dravya to ananta shaktio.n- se bharapUr hai. ... aise paryAyake ShaTakArak amuk apekShAse hai. bAkI jaisA svata.ntra dravya hai, aisI paryAy (svata.ntra nahI.n hai). paryAyako to dravyakA Ashray hai, vah apekShA to sAthame.n hai.

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muumukShuH- dravyakA ek a.nsh rahakar, phir usame.n ShaTakArak .. samAdhAnaH- hA.N, A.nshik ShaTakArak hai. vah to trikAlI svata.ntra dravya hI hai. usakI svata.ntratA alag hai. paryAyako to dravyakA Ashray hai. kyo.nki vah to ek a.nsh hai. ... vah paryAy svaya.n svata.ntra pariNamatI hai. vah bhI ek pariNaman shaktivAlA ek a.Nsh hai. isaliye vah svata.ntra hai. usakA artha yah nahI.n hai ki vah dravyake Ashray binA nirAdhAr hotI hai, aisA nahI.n hai.