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mumukShuH- A.nshik AcharaN ho...

samAdhAnaH- A.nshik AcharaN pahale nahI.n hotA hai. pahale shraddhAn-j~nAn ho to hI AcharaN hotA hai. to hI AcharaN yathArtha hotA hai.

mumukShuH- shraddhAn-j~nAn pUrvaka.

samAdhAnaH- shraddhA-j~nAnapUrvak AcharaN yathArtha hotA hai. A.nshik AcharaN hotA hai.

mumukShuH- shraddhAkI pradhAnatA, aisA? jainadarshaname.n shraddhAn mukhya tattva hai.

samAdhAnaH- shraddhAnakI pradhAnatA hai.

mumukShuH- bhale j~nAn dvArA shraddhAn hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- j~nAn bIchame.n AtA hai. bIchame.n AtA hai, isaliye pratham j~nAn karanA, aisA AtA hai. shraddhA karatA hai, usame.n j~nAn bIchame.n AtA hai. ataH pratham j~nAn karanA, aisA kahaneme.n Aye. parantu shraddhA yathArtha ho to hI mukti mArgakA prAra.nbh hotA hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAn karanA, vah bhI samakitI-j~nAnIke samIp rahakar yathArtha j~nAn ho sake. dharmAtmAkA yog ho to hI usako us jAtake sa.nskAr dR^iDh ho sake.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevane jo mArga batAyA, us mArgako svaya.n grahaN kare. gurudevakA Ashay samajhe, us Ashayako grahaN kare, vaisI svaya.n taiyArI kare to use mArga pragaT hotA hai. usakI samIpatA arthAt samIpatA yAnI a.ntarame.n unakI samIpatAko grahaN karanI. aisA artha hai.

mumukShuH- bhAvakI nikaTatA.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, bhAv-se nikaTatA grahaN karanI. anAdi kAlase dev-guru sachche nahI.n mile hai.n. isaliye use yathArtha j~nAn nahI.n huA hai. parantu upAdAn taiyAr ho to nimitta maujUd hotA hI hai.

mumukShuH- nimittako khojanA, aisA nahI.n?

samAdhAnaH- nimitta use prApta ho hI jAtA hai, unakA sAnnidhya prApta ho hI jAtA hai. samIpatA yAnI unakA sAnnidhya, samIpatA prApta ho jAtI hai. mumukShuko aise bhAv Aye binA rahate hI nahI.n. dev-guru-shAstrakI samIpatA kaise prApta ho? unakA sAnnidhya

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kaise prApta ho? merA puruShArtha kaise ho? mujhe mArga kaise grahaN ho? unakA sAnnidhya to, nishchay aur vyavahAr dono.n sAnnidhyakI use bhAvanA hotI hI hai.

mumukShuH- vyavahAr bhI bIchame.n Avashyak hai sahI.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vyavahAr bIchame.n AtA hai. use bhAvanA hotI hai. phir bAhar- se yog kitanA bane, vah alag bAt hai. parantu use bhAvanA hotI hai. sAnnidhyakI, samIpatAkI sab bhAvanA hotI hai.

mumukShuH- rAgakI bhUmikAme.n aise hI bhAv Aye.

samAdhAnaH- aise bhAv Aye. muumukShukI bhUmikAme.n aise bhAv Aye. samyagdarshan honeke bAd muktikA mArga prAra.nbh ho to bhI, chAritra dashA ho to bhI dev-guru-shAstrake shubh vikalpa to sAthame.n hote hI hai.n. jabatak vItarAg dashA nahI.n huyI hai tabataka. mumukShuko to aisA hotA hai ki dev-guru-shAstrakI samIpatA ho, unakA shravaN, manan AdikI bhAvanA hotI hai. parantu samyagdR^iShTiko, chAritravAn muniko sabako dev-guru-shAstra taraphakI shubhabhAvanA Aye binA nahI.n rahatI. bIchame.n sAthame.n hotA hai. aNuvrat, mahAvratake shubh pariNAm Ate hai.n. sAthame.n dev-guru-shAstrake shubh pariNAm Ate hai.n.

mumukShuH- bhAvanakA artha Apane yah kiyA ki aise vikalpa Ate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, aise vikalpa Ate hai.n. svaya.n Age jAy, vahA.N dev-guru-shAstra mujhe sAnnidhyatAme.n ho, mujhe unakI samIpatA ho, aisI bhAvanA use Aye binA nahI.n rahatI. bAharakA yog kitanA bane vah alag bAt hai, lekin usakI bhAvanA aisI hotI hai.

samAdhAnaH- ...dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, andar shuddhAtmA, merA chaitanya svarUp kaisA hai, usakI pahachAn karanI. gurudev bAra.nbAr vahI kahate the. gurudevake pravachaname.n to gurudevane bahut mArga batAyA hai, vANI barasAyI hai. vah karanA hai. svAnubhUtikA mArga gurudevane batAyA. a.ntarame.n svAnubhUti hotI hai, bAharame.n kahI.n nahI.n hai. bAhar-se kuCh nahI.n milatA, a.ntarame.n hai, sab AtmAme.n bharA hai usame.n-se pragaT hotA hai.

ananta kAl-se janma-maraN karate-karate manuShyabhav milA. is manuShya bhavame.n aise gurudev mile, unho.nne mArga batAyA to vah ek hI karane jaisA hai. Atma svarUpakI pahachAn kaise ho? vaha.

samAdhAnaH- ...lekin vah vyavahAr hai. vAstavik rUpase samyagdarshan, j~nAn, chAritrANi mokShamArgaH. samyagdarshan-se shurUAt hotI hai.

mumukShuH- vahA.N takakA jo j~nAn hai, vah vikalpavAlA kahA jAy, vyavahAravAlA kahA jAya. prayojanabhUt vastu tabatak prApta nahI.n hotI, shraddhA honeke bAd hI prApta hotI hai.

samAdhAnaH- mUl apanI pariNati, bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA, nirvikalpa svAnubhUti samyagdarshan

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ho to... usake pahale jo j~nAn hai, use yathArtha nAm nahI.n de sakate. samyagdarshan ho tab us j~nAnako yathArtha kahate hai.n. usake pahale vyavahAr bIchame.n AtA hai. jAnaneke liye j~nAn AtA hai, parantu pratIti yathArtha ho, tabhI j~nAnako samyakaj~nAn nAm kahaneme.n AtA hai.

mumukShuH- sarva guNo.nkI shuddhi hotI hI jAtI hai. shuddhikI vR^iddhi hotI jAtI hai. aisI bAt Aye, vah kaise hotI hai?

samAdhAnaH- kevalaj~nAn honeke bAd nahI.n. kevalaj~nAn to pUrNa ho gayA.

mumukShuH- j~nAnaguN to hotA hai. Aj jaisA guN hai, usase kal jyAdA ho.

samAdhAnaH- kevalaj~nAname.n aisA nahI.n hotA. vah to sAdhak dashAme.n hai. samyagdarshan honeke bAd shuddhikI vR^iddhi hotI hai. usakI bhUmikA baDhatI jAya. use chaturtha guNasthAn ho, phir pA.NchavA hotA hai, lInatA baDhatI jAy, aise-aise j~nAn, darshan, chAritrakI nirmalatA, ananta guNo.nkI nirmalatA baDhatI jAtI hai. samyagdarshan-yathArtha dR^iShTi huyI isaliye usame.n jab chAritra pragaT hotA hai, phir sarva guNo.nkI shuddhi hotI hai. samyagdarshan-se hI shuddhi hotI hai.

sarvaguNA.nsh so samyagdarshana. use shuddhi huyI. phir visheSh Age baDhatA hai to chAritra dashA AtI hai. pA.NchavI bhUmikA, ChaThThI-sAtavI.n munidashA Aye. isaliye usakI adhik shuddhi huyI. use vItarAg dashAkI prApti (huyI). pUrNa vItarAg nahI.n hai, vItarAgatAkI vR^iddhi huyI. phir mohakA, rAgakA kShay hokar a.ntar vItarAg dashA pUrNa vItarAg ho, tab use sa.npUrNa hotA hai. kevalaj~nAn hotA hai. vItarAg hotA hai isaliye kevalaj~nAn hotA hai. kevalaj~nAn hotA hai, isaliye sarva guN sa.npUrNarUpase pragaT ho gaye. phir samay-samayame.n usakI jo pariNati hotI hai, us pariNatime.n vR^iddhi-vR^iddhi hotI hai, aisA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- kevalaj~nAn hone par sarva guN khIl gaye na?

samAdhAnaH- kevalaj~nAn hotA hai to sarva guN paripUrNa ho gaye. phir jo pariNaman hotA hai, vah ekake bAd ek, ananta guN svaya.n shuddhirUp pariNamate hI rahate hai.n. vItarAgarUp pariNamate rahate hai.n. usakA svabhAv aisA hai ki pAriNAmik svabhAv hai. isaliye vah ananta kAl parya.nt pariNamatA rahatA hai AnandarUp, j~nAnarUp, parantu usakA nAsh nahI.n hotA hai yA kam nahI.n ho jAtA. vah pariNamatA rahatA hai, ekarUp pariNamatA rahatA hai. usame.n tAratamyatA agurulaghu svabhAvake kAraN ho, parantu vah ekarUp hai. usame.n va- vR^iddhi nahI.n kahate. kevalaj~nAn huA isaliye pUrNa ho gayA.

mumukShuH- to phir use agurulaghukI dR^iShTi-se kaise kahate hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- use vR^iddhi nahI.n hotI. vah to ekarUp pariNamatA hai. tAratamyatA (hotI hai). vah to pAriNAmikabhAv hai. usakI vR^iddhi-hAni to usakA svabhAv hai. jaise hIrAme.n

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chamak hotI hai, anek prakArase jo chamak hotI hai, vaise use pAriNAmikabhAvakI hAni- vR^iddhi kahate haiai.n. usakI vR^iddhi, vastu sthiti-se vR^iddhi, vItarAgatAkI vR^iddhi, kevalaj~nAnakI vR^iddhi nahI.n kah sakate.

mumukShuH- .. parantu pAriNAmikabhAvakI dR^iShTi-se agurulaghutvakI..

samAdhAnaH- agurulaghukA svabhAv hI aisA hai. pAnIme.n jaisee tara.ng uThate hai.n, vaise use pAriNAmikabhAv pariNamatA rahatA hai. hAni-vR^iddhi...

mumukShuH- vah to us bhAvakA hI hai na?

samAdhAnaH- pAriNAmikabhAvakA hI hai. vR^iddhi-hAni nahI.n kah sakate, pUrNa ho gayA. ekarUp pariNaman rahatA hai. use vR^iddhi-hAni nahI.n kahate. ... vR^iddhi hotI hai. sAdhak sIDhI chaDhatA hai. pUrNa vItarAgatA ho, kevalaj~nAn ho to kR^itakR^itya ho gayA. jo karanA thA vah kar liyA, ab kuCh karanA bAkI nahI.n rahA. puruShArthakI pUrNatA ho gayI. karanA kuCh nahI.n hai. sahaj svabhAvarUp dravya pariNamatA rahatA hai. phir karanA kuCh nahI.n hai. karanA kuCh nahI.n hai, vah to nij svabhAvarUp pariNamatA rahatA hai.

mumukShuH- kalakI charchAme.n aisA AyA ki bhedaj~nAn rAg aur svabhAvake bIch karanA hai. dravya aur paryAyake bIch nahI.n. samayasAr gAthA-38me.n aisA AtA hai ki nau tattva- se AtmA atya.nt bhinna hone-se shuddha hai, aisA kahA. to usame.n to sa.nvar, nirjarA aur mokSha bhI A gaye. dravyadR^iShTi karanI aur paryAyadR^iShTi ChoDanI, usame.n bhI dravya aur paryAyake bIch bhedaj~nAnakA prasa.ng AyA. vaise hI dhruv aur utpAd rUp chalit bhAv, niShkriy aur sakriy bhAva. in sabame.n dravya aur paryAyake bIch taphAvat karanA paDatA hai. to rAg aur svabhAvake bIchake bhedaj~nAnako kyo.n prAdhAnyatA dI jAtI hai?

samAdhAnaH- rAg aur svabhAv do hai.n (usame.n) vibhAv hai aur yah svabhAv hai, isaliye usakI prAdhAnyatA hai. guN-paryAyakA bhed bhI dR^iShTikI apekShA-se kahaneme.n AtA hai. sarva apekShA-se (nahI.n). guN aur paryAy jo hai vah a.nsh-a.nsh hai. lekin vah a.nsh hai vah dravyadR^iShTikI apekShA-se... jaise sAdhakadashA. jo-jo bhed paDe guNasthAn,... un sab bhAgako dravyadR^iShTikI apekShA-se sabako gauN karake ... dravyadR^iShTikI apekShA- se. kAraN Ashray to dravyakA lenA hai. paryAyakA Ashray yA guNakA Ashray nahI.n lenA hai. kAraN ki un sabako ... AtA hai. lekin vah bhinna aisA nahI.n hai ki jaisA rAg-se bhinna hai, vaisA yah bhinna nahI.n hai. bhinnatA-bhinnatAme.n pharka hai. isaliye us apekShA- se kahA thA ki rAg-se bhedaj~nAn (karanA hai). kyo.nki svabhAv aur vibhAvakA bhedaj~nAn hai. yah bhedaj~nAn hai, vah apekShA alag hai. usame.n Ashray chaitanya pUrNa aishvaryashAlI hai usakA Ashray lenA hai. paryAy aur guN ek a.nsh hai. usakA Ashray nahI.n lenA hai.

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dravya par dR^iShTi karane-se usakA Ashray hotA hai aur guN eva.n paryAy gauN ho jAte hai.n. dravyadR^iShTikI apekShA-se. isaliye usame.n sab sAdhak dashA aur sab usame.n gauN ho jAtA hai. jaise ek rAjA pUrNa shaktishAlI rAjA ho... koI apekShA-se bhinna hai. rAjA pUrNa aishvaryashAlI hai, yah to ek a.nsh hai. parantu jaisA usake dushman-se bhinna paDatA hai, us tarah usake rishtedAro.n-se us jAtakI bhinnatA nahI.n hai. bhale rAjA aur pradhAn Adi sab bhinna vastue.N hI hai.n. parantu vah bhinna aur usake dushman-se bhinnatA, us bhedaj~nAname.n pharka hai. isaliye dR^iShTike balakI apekShA-se...

dR^iShTi sab bhinna karatI hai. mai.n kR^itakR^itya pUrNa hU.N. vah sAdhakadashAko bhI gauN karatI hai ki mai.n pUrNa hU.N. kR^itakR^itya hU.N. mere dravyame.n kuCh bhI ashuddhatA nahI.n huyI hai. mai.n to pUrNa hU.N aur yah vibhAv mujh-se atya.nt bhinna hai. aise bhinnatA karatA hai. bIchame.n jo sAdhakadashA, apUrNa paryAy, pUrNa paryAy sabako gauN karatI hai. to bhI j~nAn hai vah use lakShyame.n rakhatA hai ki ye guN aur paryAy hai, vah chaitanyake lakShaN hai.n. chaitanyakI avasthAe.N hai.n. usakI shuddha paryAy use vedaname.n AtI hai aur j~nAn usakA vivek karatA hai. us apekShA-se bhedaj~nAn rAg-se karanA hai. kyo.nki guN aur paryAyakA bhedaj~nAn vah bhed aisA hai ki dR^iShTikA Ashray dravya par jAtA hai, isaliye un sabakA bhed karanA hai.

parantu jaisA bhed rAg-se karanA hai, vaisA bhed guN-paryAyakA, vaisA bhed nahI.n hai. bhed-bhedame.n pharka hai. isaliye rAg-se bhedaj~nAn karanA hai. vah bhed hai, parantu bhed-bhedame.n pharka hai. usakA vivek karanA hai. chaitanyake guN hai.n-j~nAn, darshan, chAritra vah sab ek- ek a.nsh hai.n. chaitanya to akhaNDa pUrNa shaktivAn hai. ek-ek a.nsh vaise nahI.n hai, ataH usakA Ashray nahI.n karanA hai. vah a.nsh hai. isaliye un sabako gauN karanA hai. aur dR^iShTi to un sabako nikAl detI hai. nimittakI apekShA-se apUrNa-pUrNa paryAy huyI, isaliye dR^iShTi sabako bhinna karatI hai. mai.n to ek pUrNa hU.N, kR^itakR^itya hU.N. is tarah dR^iShTike balame.n sab nikal jAtA hai. mai.n pUrNa hU.N.

lekin yadi pUrNa hI ho to bIchame.n sAdhakadashA nahI.n rahatI. usame.n samyagdarshan, j~nAn, chAritra Adi sab avasthAe.N to hotI hai.n. ataH j~nAn usakA vivek karatA hai ki koI apekShAse ye guN hai.n, vah chaitanyake hai.n. chAritrakI paryAy pragaT hotI hai vah chaitanyame.n (pragaT hotI hai). samyagdarshan, j~nAn, chAritra sab chaitanyame.n pragaT hotI hai. parantu dravya par dR^iShTi karane-se pragaT hotI hai. isaliye mai.n nau tattvakI paripATI ChoDakar mujhe ek AtmA prApta hoo. nau tattvakI paripATI par dR^iShTi nahI.n rakhanI hai, dR^iShTi ek AtmA par rakhanI hai. AtmA par dR^iShTi karane-se sab nirmal paryAy pragaT hotI hai. parantu usakA Ashray nahI.n lenA hai. parantu vah paryAy, jaise vibhAv bhinna hai, vaise paryAy us tarah (bhinna)

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nahI.n hai. usakA vedan chaitanyame.n hotA hai, usakI svAnubhUtikA vedan hotA hai, usakI vItarAg dashAkA vedan hotA hai. isaliye us vibhAv-se (jaise) bhinna paDanA hai, vaise isase bhinna nahI.n paDanA hai. is apekShA-se kahA thA.

mumukShuH- rAg hai vah bhinna hokar chalA jAtA hai aur isakI andarame.n adhik- adhik vR^iddhi hotI hai.

samAdhAnaH- vR^iddhi hotI hai. andar chaitanyame.n shuddhAtmAme.n paryAy pragaT hotI hai. parantu us par dR^iShTi dene-se yA usakA Ashray karane-se vah pragaT nahI.n hotA. Ashray dravyakA le to hI vah shuddhAtmAkI paryAy pragaT hotI hai. isaliye dR^iShTi to ek pUrNa par hI rakhanI hai. paryAy par yA guN par yA usame.n rukanA, us par dR^iShTi nahI.n rakhanI hai. parantu j~nAname.n rakhanA hai ki ye paryAy chaitanyake Ashray-se pragaT hotI hai. vah kahI.n jaDakI hai aisA (nahI.n hai). j~nAn yathArtha karanA. dR^iShTi pUrNa par rakhanI, parantu j~nAn yathArtha ho to usakI sAdhakadashAkI paryAy yathArthapane pragaT hotI hai.

j~nAn bhI vaisA hI ho sarva apekShA-se, usakI dR^iShTime.n aisA hI ho ki mai.n pUrNa hI hU.N, ab kuCh karanA nahI.n hai, to usame.n bhUl paDatI hai. dR^iShTi pUrNa par hotI hai, dravya par, parantu j~nAname.n aisA hotA hai ki merI paryAy abhI adhUrI hai. vah sab j~nAname.n ho to sAdhak dashA pragaT hotI hai. nahI.n to usakI dR^iShTi jUThI hotI hai. sarva apekShA- se pUrNa hI hU.N aur rAg eva.n apUrNa paryAy, vah rAg to mujh-se bhinna hai, parantu hotA hai chaitanyakI puruShArthakI kamajorI-se. vah sab khyAlame.n rakhe to puruShArtha uThatA hai. usame.n Ananda dashA, vItarAg dashA sab pragaT hotA hai. pahale dR^iShTikI apekShA-se do bhAg hote hai.n. j~nAn usakA vivek karatA hai. gurudevane anek prakAr-se samajhAyA hai. gurudevane param upakAr kiyA hai. sab apekShAe.N gurudevane samajhAyI hai.n.

mumukShuH- dUsarA prashnaH- AtmA j~nAnasvarUp hai aur usakA lakShaN j~nAna. tathA AtmA anubhUtimAtra hai. usame.n to mAtra vedanarUp lakShaNase pahachAn karavAyI hai. to pahachAn karaneke liye kaun-sI paddhati saral hai?

samAdhAnaH- anubhUti lakShaN yAnI usame.n j~nAn lakShaN kahanA chAhate hai.n. anubhUti arthAt vedanakI apekShA yahA.N nahI.n hai. vah to j~nAn lakShaN hai. j~nAn lakShaN hai vah asAdhAraN hai. j~nAn lakShaN-se hI pahachAn hotI hai. anubhUti arthAt j~nAn lakShaN kahanA chAhate hai.n. j~nAn lakShaN-se hI usakI pahachAn hotI hai. j~nAn lakShaN usakA aisA asAdhAraN lakShaN hai ki usase chaitanyakI pahachAn hotI hai. isaliye anubhUtime.n vedan apekShA nahI.n lenI hai. vedan to vartamAname.n usakI dR^iShTi vibhAv taraph hai. vahA.N-se sva-or muDanA. j~nAn lakShaN-se pahachAn hotI hai.