PDF/HTML Page 1574 of 1906
single page version

mumukShuH- akhaNDa kis prakAr-se AtmAko jAnanA? kyo.nki khaNDa khaNDa ho gayA to j~nAn j~nAn nahI.n hotA.

samAdhAnaH- vAstavame.n khaNDa khaNDa nahI.n huA hai. khaNDa to kShayopasham j~nAn hai. to kram-kram-se jAnatA hai. vAstavikame.n khaNDa huA hI nahI.n hai. padArtha to akhaNDa shAshvat hai, akhaNDa hai. isaliye akhaNDako akhaNDa jAn lenA. aur khaNDa to usakA kShayopasham j~nAn kram-kramase jAnatA hai. isaliye khaNDa dikhaneme.n AtA hai. vAstavame.n ek j~nAn par dR^iShTi rakhe ki mai.n j~nAyak jAnanevAlA hU.N. isako jAnA, isako jAnA, isako jAnA aise nahI.n, parantu mai.n jAnanevAlA svataHsiddha j~nAyak hU.N. vah akhaNDa hI hai. akhaNDa svabhAv hai usakA. bhed-bhed, vAstavikame.n bhed huA hI nahI.n hai. anAdiananta dravyakA bhed hotA hI nahI.n hai. vAstavik bhed nahI.n hai. khaNDa to kShayopashamaj~nAnake kAraN khaNDa huA hai.

mumukShuH- svaparaprakAshak vah kab kahaneme.n Aye? use svaparaprakAshakakA anubhav ho? kis kakShAme.n? aur svaparaprakAshakakA samay (kyA hai)? ek hI samayame.n svako jAnatA hai, tabhI parako jAnatA hai? athavA kaise jAnatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- svaparaprakAshak usakA svabhAv hI hai. kab kyA? svaparaprakAshak usakA svabhAv hai. sva aur par dono.n sAthame.n hI jAnatA hai, usame.n kram nahI.n paDatA. aj~nAnI parako jAnatA hai, svako nahI.n jAnatA hai. j~nAnadashA honeke bAd svaparaprakAshakapanA hai. aur pratyakSha svaparaprakAshak kevalaj~nAnI hai.n.

jise svabhAvakI astikA j~nAn huA, vibhAv mereme.n nahI.n hai, aisA dono.n j~nAn use sAthame.n vartatA hai. to vah svaparaprakAshakapanA hai. svaparaprakAshak usakA svabhAv hai. vah svAnubhUtime.n jAtA hai tab par-or upayog nahI.n hai, isaliye svAnubhUtikA vedan hai. bAhar upayog Aye tab dono.n jAnatA hai. svako jAnatA hai, parako jAnatA hai. pariNati usakI svaparaprakAshak rahatI hai, j~nAnadashA honeke bAda. upayog ek taraph rahatA hai. ChadmasthakA upayog kram-kramase hotA hai. kevalaj~nAnI ekasAth svaparaprakAshak hai. bAkI samyagdR^iShTij~nakI pariNati svaparaprakAshak rahatI hai.

PDF/HTML Page 1575 of 1906
single page version

samAdhAnaH- .. vah svaya.n kar sakatA hai. tU apanI or jA, terI mahimA kar, parakI mahimA ChoD de, tattvakA vichAr kara. svaya.n puruShArtha kare to apanA upAdAn taiyAr ho. mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. par taraph-se laganI ChoDakar svakI or jAnA, vah usakA puruShArtha hai. kaise karanA? svaya.n hI kare. usakI vibhAvakI mahimA TUT jAy, bAharakI mahimA TUT jAya. a.ntarakI mahimA pragaT kare. vah svaya.n kar sakatA hai. dev-guru-shAstra. gurune jo upadesh diyA, us anusAr svaya.nkA pariNaman ho jAnA aur aisA puruShArtha karanA, to apanA upAdAn taiyAr ho.

mumukShuH- aTak kahA.N hai? itanA sunaneke bAd bhI usake dhyAname.n mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, aisA vikalpame.n AtA hai, phir bhI abhI aTakatA hai kahA.N?

samAdhAnaH- vikalpa-se to abhI dhokhanerUp hai. abhI andar pariNati pragaT karanI chAhiye. aTakatA hI hai. pariNati pragaT nahI.n huyI hai to dhokhanA hai, j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N. dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp, svaparaprakAshakA svarUp yathArtha samajhanA chAhiye. abhI vah samajhatA nahI.n hai, yathArtha j~nAn nahI.n hai, yathArtha pratIti nahI.n hai. bhAvanA yathArtha kare, vikalpa-se bhAvanA kare, parantu abhI a.ntarame.n pariNati pragaT karanI hai. abhI use andarame.n bahut karanA bAkI rah jAtA hai. yathArtha pragaT nahI.n huA hai. raTanA ho rahA hai. andar taiyArI, apanI mahimA pragaT karanekI AvashyakatA hai. tattvavichAr karake chaitanyako kaise grahaN karanA? vah puruShArtha karanekI AvashyakatA hai.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- ... Idhar AnA dUsarI bAt hai. gurudev bhagavAnake pAs gaye, divyadhvani sunate hai.n. ... bhagavAnakA darshan karaneke liye Ate hai.n.

mumukShuH- ... hamAre sAmane bolate the ki puruSh deh ho to mai.n ek saikanDa alag nahI.n rahatA. aisA hamAre sAmane bole hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- ... bhAv dUsarI bAt hai.

mumukShuH- Apane bahut khulAsA kiyA. Apane itane kalash chaDhAye, bahut khulAsA huA. ApakI ghaNI kR^ipA huyI.

samAdhAnaH- AtmAko nyArA batAyA. nyArA AtmAko grahaN kare aur dev-guru- shAstrako hR^idayame.n rakhe to gurudevakA yog mil jAtA hai. ... j~nAyakako a.ntarame.n grahaN karane-se dev-guru-shAstra bhI mil jAte hai.n. shubhabhAvanA aisI hotI hai.

mumukShuH- ApakA AshIrvAd milA hame.n.

samAdhAnaH- guru mil jAte hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- .. svabhAvase sAkShI hai. usakA dravya, j~nAyakakA svabhAv to sAkShI

PDF/HTML Page 1576 of 1906
single page version

hai, parantu sAkShIrUp pariNaman jo honA chAhiye, vah pariNaman nahI.n hai aur rAg-dveShake sAth ekatvabuddhi hai. mai.n rAgarUp ho gayA, dveSharUp ho gayA. aisI pariNati aur aisI mAnyatA, aisI ekatvabuddhi ho gayI hai. pariNati palaTakar mai.n j~nAyak anAdiananta shAshvat hU.N. aisI pratIt aur aisI pariNati a.ntarame.n honI chAhiye ki mai.n sAkShI hI hU.N, j~nAyak hI hU.N. j~nAtArUp pariNati pragaT kare aur vah pariNati pragaT karanekA abhyAs kare, vah jabatak sahaj na ho jAy tabataka. sahaj ho, tab usakA vAstavik sAkShIpanA hotA hai. sahaj dashA ho to sAkShI ho. pahale usakA prayatna kare ki mai.n anAdiananta shAshvat j~nAyak hU.N. kisIke sAth ekatvabuddhi, ekamek honA usakA svabhAv nahI.n hai, parantu ekatvabuddhi mAnyatAme.n bhram ho gayA hai. pariNati ekatva ho gayI hai, use bhinna karake, mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N, pahale usakI pratIti dR^iDh kare ki mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N. a.ntar-se samajhakar pratIti kare. j~nAyakakI dhArA yadi pragaT ho to use kShaN-kShaName.n j~nAyakakI dhArA sahaj rahe to sAkShIbhAv rahe. lekin vah j~nAyakadhArA rahatI nahI.n, sAkShIbhAv rahatA nahI.n aur rAg- dveShake sAth ekatvabuddhi ho jAtI hai, isaliye sAkShI nahI.n rahatA. mAtra kalpanA-se raTan karake sAkShI mAne to vah rahatA nahI.n. sahaj sAkShIpanA ho to rahe. sahaj nahI.n hai, isaliye rahatA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- a.ntar-se samajhakar kare to. a.ntar-se samajhakar kare usakA artha?

samAdhAnaH- a.ntar-se samajhakar kare (arthAt) vah pariNati pragaT kare to hotA hai. svAnubhUti honeke bAd jo sahaj pariNatikI dashA ho, jo sAkShI j~nAyakadhArAkI, vah sahaj hai. usake pahale use abhyAsarUp hotA hai ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, j~nAyak hU.N. abhyAsarUp kare. raTanamAtra kare to vah (vAstavik nahI.n hai). kShaN-kShaName.n jab rAg- dveSh ho, us kShaN j~nAyak yadi maujUd rahe to ekatva nahI.n hotA. usI kShaN j~nAyak rahatA nahI.n aur dUsarI kShaName.n yAd kare to us kShaName.n to use ekatva ho jAtA hai. kShaN-kShaName.n usakI pariNatiko bhinna karanekA abhyAs kare. kShaN-kShaName.n mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N, mai.n sAkShI hI hU.N, aisA abhyAs kare to bhI abhI abhyAsarUp hai. sahaj to bAdame.n hotA hai.

mumukShuH- pahale to Apane prashname.n ek bhUl nikAlI ki bAt-bAtame.n rAg-dveSh ho jAte hai.n. vAstavame.n to svabhAv apekShA-se rAg-dveSh hote nahI.n hai, parantu ekatvatA karatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- ekatvabuddhi hotI hai, ekatvatA hotI hai. vastu svabhAvame.n rAg-dveSh nahI.n hote, parantu usakI ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai. vartamAname.n to, mai.n rAgarUp ho gayA, dveSharUp ho gayA, aise usakI pariNati, aisI mAnyatA ho gayI hai.

PDF/HTML Page 1577 of 1906
single page version

mumukShuH- ekatvabuddhikA nAsh, j~nAyakakA bAra.nbAr abhyAs kare to shurUAtame.n us prakAr-se bhinnatA ho.

samAdhAnaH- to shurUAtame.n use bhinna paDanekA avakAsh hai. utanI mahimA svaya.nko j~nAyakapanAkI Ave to ho. par-orakI, vibhAvakI mahimA ChUTe, apanI mahimA Ave, nij svabhAv pahachAne ki mai.n yah j~nAyak hU.N, yah vibhAv hai. svabhAvakI mahimA to us taraph usakA puruShArtha bAra.nbAr chale.

paramArtha svarUp jo j~nAnamAtra, j~nAnamAtra vah mai.n. j~nAnamAtrame.n pUrA j~nAyak liyA hai. jitanA j~nAnasvabhAv vah mai.n, anya mai.n nahI.n. j~nAnasvabhAv jitanA mai.n, parantu j~nAname.n sab bharA hai. usame.n pUrA j~nAyak liyA hai. pUrA mahimAva.nt j~nAyak ananta shakti-se bharA pUrA j~nAyak hai. jitanA j~nAnamAtra, j~nAyak so mai.n, j~nAnamAtra so mai.n. usame.n prIti kar, usame.n ruchi kar to usame.n-se aho! uttam sukhakI prApti hogI. usame.n prIt kar, usame.n ruchi kara. usame.n sa.ntuShTa ho jA. usame.n ruchi, prIti, sa.ntuShTa aur usame.n lIn ho, usame.n-se hI tujhe sa.ntoSh hogA. kahI.n aur tujhe jAnA nahI.n paDegA. svAnubhUti ho to usame.n sa.ntoSh Adi sab hotA hai. aur pahale usIme.n ruchi kar, usame.n prIti kar, usame.n sa.ntoSh mAna. j~nAnamAtrame.n sab hai. j~nAyakamAtra AtmAme.n sab hai. j~nAn arthAt guN nahI.n, pUrA j~nAyaka.

mumukShuH- j~nAnamAtra kahane-se pUrA j~nAyak lenA.

samAdhAnaH- pUrA j~nAyak lenA. jitanA paramArtha svarUp AtmA, jitanA yah j~nAn hai. j~nAnamAtra AtmAme.n ruchi, prIti, sa.ntoSh mAna. dUsarI sab jagah-se ChUT jA. pahale pratIt-se ChUTe pariNati, phir usame.n lInatA-chAritrakI visheShatA ho. pahale usakI pratIt kar, ruchi kar, lInatA kara. pahale svarUpAcharaN chAritra hotA hai, bAdame.n visheSh hotA hai.

mumukShuH- pUrA j~nAyak lenA matalab?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAnamAtra AtmA usame.n pUrA j~nAyak (AtA hai). usame.n ruchi kar, prIti kara. jitanA yah j~nAnasvarUp AtmA hai, vah mai.n. jitanA yah j~nAn hai, j~nAn mAne pUrA j~nAyak, ek guN nahI.n lenA hai.

mumukShuH- mahAvIrake bodhake pAtra kaun? usame.n sabase pahale kahA ki satsa.ngakA ichChuka. das prakAr kahe hai.n, usame.n pratham satsa.ngakA ichChak kahA hai. itanI pradhAnatA denekA kyA prayojan hai? gurudev to use nishchayame.n khatAte the. satpuruSh, satsa.ng yAnI terA sat AtmA, usakA sa.ng karo to tujhe... shrImadajIko to nimittarUp-se satpuruSh kahanA hai, aisA lagatA hai. usame.n kyA visheShatA hai ki dasame.n bhI pahale use mukhya kahA. usame.n kyA kahanA chAhate hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- satsa.ngame.n nishchay-vyavahAr dono.n andar A jAte hai.n. anAdi kAlase

PDF/HTML Page 1578 of 1906
single page version

samyagdarshan prApta nahI.n huA hai. anAdikAlame.n (pratham) deshanAlabdhi hotI hai. usame.n ek bAr devakA, gurukA pratyakSha upadesh milatA hai to jIvako deshanAlabdhi (milatI hai). upAdAn apanA hai. upadesh mile, deshanAke sAth sambandha hai. aisA upAdAn-nimittakA sambandha hai. upAdAn apanA hai, parantu aisA nimittakA yog banatA hai aur andarase svaya.nkI taiyArI hotI hai. aise satsa.ngame.n bhI satsa.ngako pahachAne to terA upAdAn taiyAr ho usame.n satsa.ng hAjir hotA hai. satsa.ngako khoje, terI taiyArI kara. nimitta-upAdAn dono.n (sAthame.n hote hai.n).

merI upAdAnakI taiyArI ho usame.n mujhe satsa.ng satpuruSh mere sAth hAjir raho. merI sAdhanAme.n mujhe satpuruSh hAjir raho. mujhe nimittame.n ve ho. mere upAdAname.n mujhe AtmAkA svarUp prApta karanA hai, usame.n satpuruSh mere sAth ho. ve kar dete hai.n, aisA artha nahI.n hai. parantu nimitta hotA hai, aisA upAdAnakA sambandha hai. aur nimitta hotA hai aur mumukShuko aisI bhAvanA bhI hotI hai. aur Age jAnevAleko samyagdarshan ho to bhI dev- guru-shAstra taraphakI bhAvanA to rahatI hI hai. vah mAnatA hai ki shubhabhAv merA svarUp nahI.n hai, parantu bIchame.n vah shubhabhAv Aye binA rahatA nahI.n. isaliye mai.n Age baDha.N usame.n dev-guru-shAstra mere sAth ho.

pravachanasArame.n AtA hai na? mere dIkShAke utsavame.n sab padhAranA. bhagavAn padhAranA, AchArya bhagava.nto, upAdhyAy, sAdhu Adi sab padhAranA. aisA kahate hai.n. mai.n jA rahA hU.N mere-se svaya.n-se, parantu mere sAth sab padhAranA, yahA.N AnA. aise bhAvanA bhAtA hai. aisA upAdAn-nimittakA sambandha hai. usame.n ruchi asatsa.ngakI nahI.n hotI, satsa.ngakI ruchi hotI hai. phir bAharakA yog kitanA bane vah apane hAthakI bAt nahI.n hai. parantu usakI bhAvanA aisI hotI hai ki mai.n AtmAkI sAdhanA karu.N usame.n mujhe dev-guru-shAstra samIp ho, unakI sAnnidhyatA ho, aisI bhAvanA use bIchame.n rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- use aisI bhAvanA to nira.ntar (rahatI hai). nira.ntar satpuruShako ichChatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- bhAvanA rahatI hai. puruShArtha mere-se hotA hai. koI kar detA hai, aisI use pratIt nahI.n hotI. parantu bhAvanAme.n aise nimitta ho ki sAdhanA karanevAle, jinho.nne pUrNatA prApta kI, jo AtmAkI sAdhanA karate hai.n, unakA mujhe sAnnidhya ho, aisI bhAvanA use hotI hai.

mumukShuH- nishchay aur vyavahArakI aisI sandhi hotI hai?

samAdhAnaH- aisI sandhi hotI hai.

mumukShuH- aur satsa.ng karanekA bhAv ho to nimittarUpase nira.ntar satpuruShakA satsa.ng karanekA bhAv Ave.

PDF/HTML Page 1579 of 1906
single page version

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, use bhAvanA Ave. mujhe jAnA hai andar, puruShArthakI gati mujh- se karanI hai, parantu bAharame.n bhI mujhe nimitta satpuruShakA nimitta ho, aisI bhAvanA (hotI hai). mujhe mArga batAye, mujhe kahA.N jAnA hai, vah sab mArga batAnevAle sachche nimitta mere pAs ho, aisI bhAvanA hotI hai. pratyakSha satpuruShake satsa.ngakI bhAvanA rahatI hai. phir bAharakA yog kitanA bane vah alag bAt hai, parantu aisI bhAvanA use hotI hai.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- .. gurudev devake rUpame.n hI the. ye gurudev hai.n, aise pahachAnA. aur gurudevake sab kapaDe devake the. gurudevane aisA kahA ki, aisA kuCh nahI.n rakhanA. mai.n yahI.n hU.N. phir, dUsarI bAr kahA. gurudev aisA kahate hai.n, mai.n yahI.n hU.N. gurudevane phir-se kahA, mai.n yahI.n hU.N. kahA, padhAro gurudev! aho..! aho! sadaguru.. mai.nne kyA kahA vah yAd nahI.n hai. padhAro gurudev! aisA kahA. phir gurudevane kahA, mai.n yahI.n hU.N. phir kahA, mujhe kadAchit aisA lage, lekin ye sab bechAre gurudev, gurudev karate hai.n. sabako kaise (samajhAnA)? gurudev kuCh bole nahI.n. gurudevane itanA kahA ki mai.n yahI.n hU.N. Apako aisA kuCh nahI.n rakhanA, mai.n yahI.n hU.N.

mumukShuH- ham sabako aisA hI lagatA thA ki gurudev yahI.n hai. parantu gurudevakI anupasthiti mAlUm hI nahI.n paDatI.

samAdhAnaH- gurudev... kaun jAne aisA atishay ho gayA. sabako aisA ho gayA. mai.nne turanta kisIko nahI.n kahA thA. phir sabake maname.n aisA ho gayA thA ki gurudev yahA.N hai. svapname.n aisA lage ki gurudev hI hai.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- aisA rakhanA hI nahI.n. mai.n yahI.n hU.N. do bAr aisA kahA. phir kisI aurane kahA, gurudev aisA kahate hai.n ki mai.n yahI.n hU.N. gurudev kuCh bole nahI.n, parantu gurudevane itanA kahA, mai.n yahI.n hU.N. mai.n yahI.n hU.N, bahin! mai.n yahI.n hU.N. maname.n aisA chalatA thA na, isaliye. .. Aye ho na, aisA devakA pahanAvA. aur mudrAme.n gurudev jaisA lage aur dUsarI taraph-se dev jaisA lage. mugaT Adi, devakA rUp hotA hai na, devakA rUpa.

mumukShuH- pa.nchamakAlame.n dev Ate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- ... isaliye mai.n kahatI thI ki gurudev sab dekhate hai.n. upayog rakhe to gurudevako sab dikhatA hai. gurudev yahA.N-se bhagavAnake pAs jAte hai.n. Upar-se sab dikhatA hai. vimAname.n jAte hai.n. mahAvideh, bharatakShetra sab samIp hI hai. yahA.N bagalame.n mahAvideh kShetra hai. parantu yahA.N bIchame.n pahAD A gaye isaliye kuCh dikhatA nahI.n hai. sabakI shakti kam ho gayI hai.

PDF/HTML Page 1580 of 1906
single page version

ja.nbUdvIpakA mahAvideh, puShkalAvatI, pu.nDaragirI, bharat Adi sab najadIk hai. devame.n- se sab dikhatA hai. dhUl hI dikhe, dUsarA kuCh nahI.n dikhe. aur ratnake pahAD hai.n, ratno.nke pahAD dikhe nahI.n, kuCh dikhe nahI.n. sab dhUl dikhatI hai. use dekhanekI shakti nahI.n hai. bharat chakravartIke A.Nkhame.n aisI shakti thI, unakI A.Nkhame.n puNya thA to unhe.n A.Nkhame.n- se dikhatA thA. sUryake andar bhagavAnakI pratimA aur mandir dikhate the. yahA.Nke logo.nko... jise chashmA AyA ho, use kahe ki yah sUI hai aur usakA Ched hai, chashmA ho use kuCh dikhatA nahI.n. vah kahe, nahI.n hai, to vah jUThA hai. aise abhI shakti kam ho gayI. netrame.n tej nahI.n hai, kuCh dikhAI na detA, dhUl hI dikhe na, aur kyA dikhe? ratnake pahAD kahA.N-se dikhe? Upar devalok hai vah kahA.N-se dikhe? usakA prakAsh- ratno.nkA prakAsh dekhakar usake netra chau.ndh jAte hai.n.

gurudev Aye aisA svapna AyA. gurudev padhAro, padhAro aisA kahA. gurudev ekadam.. gurudev Aye.