Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 27.

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samAdhAnaH- .. aisA nakkI karake bAra.nbAr usake vichAr kare ki mai.n to bhinna hI hU.N, ye vikalpa merA svarUp nahI.n hai. aise andarase dR^iDhatA kare, bAra.nbAr usakA prayAs kare, usakI laganI lagAye. khAte-pIte, jAgate-sote, svapname.n sabame.n usakI laganI hotI hai ki mai.n to bhinna hI hU.N. aisI a.ntarase laganI laganI chAhiye. bAra.nbAr mai.n bhinna hU.N. aise bhedaj~nAnake prayAs sahita. yathArtha bhedaj~nAn, sachchA bhedaj~nAn bAdame.n hotA hai, parantu pahale usakI laganI lage. tabatak vichAr kare, vA.nchan kare, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA Aye. gurudev kyA kahate the, bhagavAnane pUrNa svarUp prApta kiyA, guru kaise hote hai.n, gurukA kyA svarUp hai, gurudevane kyA mArga batAyA, yah sab nakkI kare. shAstrame.n kyA mArga AtA hai, yah sab nakkI kare. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA kare, vah sab shubhabhAv hai, lekin vah pahale Aye binA nahI.n rahate. abhI AtmA-shuddhAtmA prApta nahI.n ho, tab tak bIchame.n Ate hai.n. parantu use dhyey yah hotA hai ki mujhe shuddhAtmA prApta karanA hai. mujhe AtmA kaise prApta ho, aisI a.ntarase laganI laganI chAhiye. use khaTak rahA kare.

jisakI svaya.nko ichChA ho aur vah nahI.n milatA ho to andar kaise bAr-bAr yAd AtA hai, vaise use yAd Aye. apanI mA.N ho, to merI mA.N, jahA.N bhI jAye koI pUChe, tU kaun hai? terA nAm kyA? bAlak samajhatA nahI.n ho to (kahatA hai), merI mA.N, merI mA.N kare. merI mA.N, merI mA.N kaisA a.ntarame.n hotA hai?

vaise mujhe AtmA kaise prApta ho? aisI laganI laganI chAhiye. usakA prayAs kare, bAra.nbar usake bhedaj~nAn karanekA abhyAs kare, bAra.nbAr mai.n bhinna hU.N, bhinna hU.N. mAtra vikalpa mAtra Upar-Uparase kare vah alag bAt hai, parantu a.ntarase honA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- AtmA to apane pAs hI hai, to phir?

samAdhAnaH- apane pAs hai, dR^iShTAnta to aisA hI hotA hai. AtmA apane pAs hai, lekin bhUl gayA hai. use aisA ho gayA hai, mAno mai.n biChaD gayA hU.N. aisA use ho gayA hai. bhUl gayA hai. AtmA svaya.n hI hai, lekin mai.n biChaD gayA, mAno AtmA dUr chalA gayA ho aur mai.n bhUlA paD gayA hU.N. mAno sharIrame.n ekamek ho gayA, mAno gum gayA ho aisA use ho gayA hai. jaise bakarIke jhu.nDame.n si.nh A gayA aur bhUl


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gayA ki mai.n si.nh hU.N, mai.n bakarI hU.N, usake jaisA ho gayA hai. si.nh bhUl gayA ki mai.n kaun? ye bakare alag hai aur merA lakShaN alag hai, yah bhUl gayA. aise svaya.n bhUl gayA hai. usame.n si.nhako koI kahanevAlA mile ki are..! is bakareke jhu.nDame.n tU si.nh hai. lakShaNase pahachAn karavAye.

isaprakAr gurudev lakShaNase pahachAn karavAte haiai.n ki are..! tU to AtmA jAnane vAlA hai, ye sharIr tU nahI.n hai. tU usase bhinna hai, tU dekha. andar jAnane vAlA AtmA hai. aise gurudev mArgakI pahachAn karavAte hai.n, us mArgako bAra.nbAr dR^iDhatA karake grahaN karanA chAhiye. usake liye sab ChoD de, aisA kuCh nahI.n hotA, andarakI ruchi laganI chAhiye. use a.ntarame.n ras kam ho jAye. ras kam ho jAye. bAhar sab rahatA hai, bAhar sab karatA ho, lekin andar use ras ChUT jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- andarakI ruchi kab ho? jab duHkh ho tab hotI hai?

samAdhAnaH- duHkh ho aisA nahI.n, parantu andar nakkI ho ki gurudev kahate hai.n vah alag hai, AtmA bhinna hai. bhale sachchI pratIt bAdame.n (hotI hai), parantu andarase aisA laganA chAhiye ki is AtmAme.n hI sab hai, bAharame.n kahI.n bhI nahI.n hai. sukh bAhar kahI.n nahI.n hai. jahA.N dekho vahA.N, khAte-pIte, sote-jAgate, ghumaneme.n-phiraneme.n kahI.n bhI sukh nahI.n hai, aisA use nakkI honA chAhiye. sukh mere AtmAme.n hai. andar AtmA koI anupam aur apUrva hai, aisA use nakkI ho ki AtmA koI alag hai, to use us or ruchi lage.

lekin yah kaun batAye? gurudev batAte hai.n. mArga batAyA hai. sab log kahA.N paDe the. kriyA kare, thoDA bAharase kare ki thoDA ye kar liyA, upavAs kar liyA, ye kar liyA to dharma ho gayA. dharma usame.n nahI.n hai. dharma andar AtmAme.n hai. vah to shubhabhAv kare. upavAs kare to shubhabhAvase puNya bandhatA hai, devalok hotA hai, usase bhavakA abhAv nahI.n hotA. aise devake bhav jIvane ananta kAlame.n bahut kiye, parantu mokSha nahI.n huA. bhavakA abhAv to AtmAko pahachAne to hotA hai. lekin jabatak vah nahI.n hotA tabatak bIchame.n shubhabhAv Ate hai.n. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA Adi (hote hai.n). a.ntarame.nse bAharakA sab ras ChUT jAye.

.. jaise honA hogA vaisA hogA, parantu usame.n puruShArtha sAthame.n hotA hai. svaya.nko to aisA hI vichAr karanA hai ki mai.n puruShArtha karu.N. puruShArthakA kramabaddhake sAth sambandha hai. aisA mAne ki jaisA honA hogA vaisA hogA. to-to phir jo pariNAm Aye usame.n juD jAye. ye ashubhabhAv, ekatvabuddhise jaD jAtA hai, aisA jo karatA hai ki jaise honA hogA vaisA hogA, to phir khAneme.n-pIneme.n har jagah ekatvabuddhi ras lene vAlA,


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use sharIr so mai.n aur mai.n so sharIr, aisI buddhi hai, puruShArthakI or jisakI dR^iShTi hI nahI.n hai, to usakA kramabaddha eaisA hotA hai ki use bhavakA abhAv nahI.n hotA. parantu jisake hR^idayame.n aisA ho ki mai.n puruShArtha karu.N, mai.n mere bhAvako badalU.N. mujhe ek shuddhAtmA chAhiye, mujhe aur kuCh nahI.n chAhiye. to use us jAtakA kramabaddha hotA hai ki use muktikI orakA hotA hai.

kramabaddhakA puruShArthake sAth sambandha hai. jisakI ruchi AtmAkI or jAye usakA kramabaddha mokShakI or hotA hai. parantu jisakI ruchi sa.nsArakI or ho, use kramabaddha sa.nsArakI or hotA hai. svaya.nko to aisA hI vichAr karanA hai ki mai.n puruShArtha karu.n. kramabaddha-kudaratame.n jo honevAlA hai vah hogA, parantu svaya.nko aisA vichAr karanA ki mujhe-mai.n puruShArtha karu.N. mere AtmAke pariNAm badalakar mai.n j~nAyakako pahachAnu.N. svaya.nko aisA vichAr karanA chAhiye.

yadi svaya.n aisA vichAr kare ki sab kramabaddha hogA to phir svaya.nko kuCh karanA nahI.n rahatA hai. to jaise Aye vaise pariNAm chalate rahe, (kyo.nki) svaya.nko kuCh karanA hI nahI.n hai. puruShArthake sAth kramabaddhakA sambandha hai. svaya.nko to ruchi palaTakar puruShArtha karanA. kramabaddha isaprakAr hai. kramabaddhakA puruShArthake sAth sambandha hai.

mumukShuH- kramabaddha aisA ki kahI.n juDanA nahI.n, dekhate rahanA, Aye use rokanA nahI.n.

samAdhAnaH- juDanA nahI.n vah bhI puruShArtha huA na? juDanA nahI.n vah andar us jAtakA puruShArtha huA. mujhe juDanA nahI.n hai, aisA bhAv AyA vah puruShArtha hI hai ki mujhe nahI.n juDanA hai. juDanA nahI.n hai, mujhe bhedaj~nAn karanA hai, j~nAyakako pahachAnanA hai. to vah puruShArtha huA, vah to puruShArtha huA.

mumukShuH- yAnI achChA kiyA na?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vah achChA hai, lekin vah puruShArtha huA. usake sAth kramabaddha (hai), puruShArthake sAth kramabaddha huA usake sAth kramabaddha achChA hotA hai. jo aisA kahe ki mujhe juDanA nahI.n hai, aisA nahI.n rakhe aur kahe ki kyA karu.N? juD jAtA hU.N. kramabaddha aisA thA. aisA kare usakA kramabaddha achChA nahI.n hotA. juD jAtA hU.N, kyA karu.N? karmakA uday hai. aisA mAne to usakA kramabaddha achChA nahI.n hotA. aisA kahe ki mujhe nahI.n juDanA hai, mujhe AtmAko pahachAnanA hai, to usakA kramabaddha achChA hotA hai. AkUlatA nahI.n karanI, shA.ntise puruShArtha kare. lekin puruShArthakI or jisakI dR^iShTi ho usakA hI kramabaddha achChA hotA hai.

mumukShuH- kramabaddhame.n puruShArtha karanA..


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samAdhAnaH- kramabaddhame.n puruShArtha kare, lekin svaya.nko to aisA hotA hai na ki mai.n puruShArtha karu.N, mere bhAv badalU.N. bhale kramabaddhame.n. parantu svaya.nko to aisA vichAr AnA chAhiye ki mai.n puruShArtha karu.N. kramabaddhame.n puruShArtha AyegA, aisA vichAr kare to bhI puruShArtha nahI.n hotA. kramabaddhame.n puruShArtha hogA, aisA mAne to use puruShArtha nahI.n hotA. mai.n palaTu.N, pariNAm merI or Aye, mujhe ye nahI.n chAhiye. svaya.n yadi aisA vichAr kare ki mai.n palaTu.N, use hI kramabaddhame.n puruShArtha AtA hai, dUsareko nahI.n AtA. svaya.nko to aisA hI lenA. usame.n to kudaratakI paryAye.n svaya.n pariNamati hai. svaya.n pariName use tujhe kyo.n dekhane jAnA hai? kramabaddha apane Ap palaTatA hai. sabhI paryAye.n kudaratI palaTatI hai, use tujhe nahI.n dekhanA hai. tU tere puruShArthakI or najar kara.

aisA vichAr kare ki kramabaddhame.n puruShArtha hogA to hogA. to use puruShArtha nahI.n chalatA. aisA vichAr kare to bhI. aisA vichAr kare to usakA puruShArtha manda paD jAye. to puruShArtha nahI.n chalatA. svaya.nko to aise hI lenA hai ki mai.n puruShArtha karu.N. to usakA kramabaddha mokShakI or Aye. mujhe ek j~nAyak chAhiye, aur kuCh nahI.n chAhiye. mujhe sa.nkalpa-vikalpa AkUlatAmay hai, vah nahI.n chAhiye. mujhe ek AtmA anupam hai vahI chAhiye. aisI bhAvanA kare. mujhe puruShArtha karake mujhe hI palaTanA hai. aise vichAr Aye to usakA kramabaddha palaTatA hai. svaya.nko aise hI vichAr Ane chAhiye.

mumukShuH- nahI.n to svaya.nko sva.nyake AdhIn koI pariNAm hI nahI.n rahe aur dUsarA kramabaddha..

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, svaya.n svAdhIn nahI.n rahA. koI kar degA aisA ho gayA. kramabaddha mujhe puruShArtha kar degA, tujhe kyA karanA hai? kramabaddha puruShArtha karegA to tujhe puruShArtha hogA hI nahI.n. terA puruShArtha manda hI ho jAyegA. aisA vichAr karanA. AtmArthIo.nko, jise AtmAkI lagI hai, vah aise vichAro.nme.n rukatA nahI.n. bIchame.n use vah bachAvakA pahalU A jAtA hai. jo AtmArthI hai.n, vah aisA mAnate hai.n ki merI kShati hai. merI kShatike kAraN mai.n rukA hai, merI mandatA hai. merI mandatA hai, merI ruchikI kamI hai, mere puruShArthakI kamI hai, to hI vah Age baDhatA hai.

... kAraN vah hai. paradravyakA svaya.n kartA nahI.n hotA. paradravyame.n jo honA hogA vah hotA hai. vahA.N kramabaddhame.n khaDA rahe. apane puruShArthame.n yadi kramabaddha legA to puruShArtha manda ho jAyegA. bAharake uday, puNya-pApake uday, bAharake pheraphAr Adi sab kramabaddha (hai). a.ntarame.n kramabaddha hai, parantu vah kramabaddha, svaya.n jij~nAsu AtmArthI hitakI or jAne vAlA apane puruShArthakI or hI dekhane vAlA hotA hai. aur us puruShArthake sAth kramabaddhakA sambandha hai. akelA kramabaddha mokShakI or jo jAtA hai, vah akelA nahI.n


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hotA. puruShArthake sAth kramabaddhakA sambandha hotA hai. kAlalabdhi, puruShArtha, kShayopasham sabakA sambandha hai, usame.n puruShArtha mukhya hai. jaisI puruShArthakI gati mumukShukI hotI hai, us anusAr sab palaTatA hai.

mumukShuH- puruShArtha manda paDe to samajhanA ki kramabaddha abhI baiThA nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, to kramabaddha sachche svarUpame.n samajhA hI nahI.n. kramabaddhako sachchA samajhA hI nahI.n.

mumukShuH- jaisA Ap kahate ho usame.n to puruShArtha hI...

samAdhAnaH- puruShArthakI or hI jAnA, mukhya puruShArtha hai. sab kartAbuddhi ChuDAnekI bAt hai. andarake puruShArthakI mandatAke liye vah nahI.n hai. tU j~nAyak ho jA. j~nAtAkI dhArA AyI, usame.n puruShArtha A gayA. j~nAyak huA usame.n bhedaj~nAnakA prayatna A gayA.

mumukShuH- kar sakatA nahI.n, to akartA svabhAv par lakShya rakhanA?

samAdhAnaH- apanI paryAy nahI.n palaT sakatA, vah bAt ek orakI hai. dravyake jorame.n kahatA hai. bAkI apanI paryAyako ek apekShAse badal sakatA hai. ekAnta nahI.n badal sakatA aisA nahI.n hai. ashubhame.nse shubhame.n Aye aur shubhame.nse shuddhame.n jAtA hai. vah apane puruShArthakI gatise hI hotA hai. vah use koI nahI.n kar detA. vah apaneAp hotA hai, aisA kuCh nahI.n hai.

dravyadR^iShTike jorame.n, dravyadR^iShTime.n aisA Aye ki paryAy apaneAp hotI hai. apaneAp hotI nahI.n, dravyake Ashrayase paryAy hotI hai. paryAy Upar-Upar nahI.n hotI. usakI ruchi jis orakI ho us jAtakI paryAy vaisI hotI hai. paryAyakA kartA svaya.n nahI.n hai, vah ek orakI bAt hai. dravyadR^iShTikI apekShAse kahaneme.n AtA hai. dravyake Ashrayase paryAy hotI hai. paryAy Upar-Upar nahI.n hotI.

... kI paryAy apaneAp nahI.n hotI. jo darshan, j~nAn, chAritra pragaT hote hai.n, to vah dravyadR^iShTike Alambaname.n hotI hai. vah Alamban apaneAp nahI.n ho jAtA. usakA koI kartA nahI.n hai, aisA nahI.n hai. dravyake Ashrayase hotI hai. dravyadR^iShTike Alambanake balase hotI hai. usame.n j~nAnake sAth, lInatA sAthame.n hotI hai. sAdhanA honI hogI to hogI, vah paryAy apane Ap hogI, aisA nahI.n hai. dravyadR^iShTike balame.n aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai. bAkI to vah ekAnta ho jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- ... kahate hai.n to aisI koI vivakShA hai ki dravyadR^iShTikA..

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n, dravya shAshvat hai aur paryAy a.nsh hai. isaliye paryAyakA pariNaman paryAy svata.ntra kare, aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai. kahaneme.n AtA hai yAnI vah a.nsh hai aur vah trikAl hai. arthAt vah paryAy Upar-Upar nahI.n hai. koI dravyakA use Ashray nahI.n


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hai, binA Ashray paryAy pariNamit ho gayI, aisA nahI.n hai. dravyake Ashrayase paryAy pariNamati hai. paryAy ek a.nsh hai isaliye use bhinna karake paryAy svaya.n pariNamit huyI, aisA ek apekShAse kahaneme.n Aye. parantu vah dravyake Ashray binA Upar-Uparase pariNamit huyI, aisA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- dravyakA Ashray to barAbar hai ki paryAyako dravyakA Ashray to hotA hai. parantu Ashray dravyakA rakhakar bhI svata.ntrarUpase pariNamatI hai, aisI koI vivakShA hai?

samAdhAnaH- svata.ntra pariName yAnI dravyake hAthame.n Dor nahI.n hai aur use ThIk paDe vaise pariNamatI hai, aisA nahI.n hai. mokShamArgakI Dor usake hAthame.n hai. vibhAvakI or jAnA ho to vah svata.ntra jAye aur svabhAv (kI or jAnA hai to vahA.N jAye), aise paryAy nahI.n jAtI. usake hAthame.n Dor hai. Dorako kis or le jAnA, vah usake hAthama.n hai. dravyadR^iShTike hAthame.n usakI Dor hai.

mumukShuH- akAraN pAriNAmik dravya.

samAdhAnaH- akAraN pAriNAmik dravya bhI alag hai. ise andar puruShArthase pragaT paryAy hotI hai. ye aise kyo.n pariNamA? akAraN pAriNAmik hai. lekin jo buddhipUrvak puruShArtha hotA hai, usame.n usakI Dor usake hAthame.n hai. Dor hAthame.n nahI.n hai aur ThIk paDe vaise paryAy pariNamatI hai, aisA nahI.n hai. usakI pUrI dishA badal gayI hai. dravyadR^iShTikA Alamban hai. Alambanake jorame.n sab paryAy is or AtI hai. usake Alambanake jorame.n AtI hai.

mumukShuH- Dor usake hAthame.n hai, vahI usakI svata.ntratA hai.

samAdhAnaH- vah usakI svata.ntratA hai. paryAy alag phiratI hai, aisA nahI.n hai. dravyake Ashrayase (hotI hai). Dor usake hAthame.n hai-sAdhakake hAthame.n. vah mukhya rahatA hai. AtmA kaise samajhanA?

samAdhAnaH- .. use kaise samajhame.n Aye, nau tattva aur Chah dravya? dhyey honA chAhiye.

.. use sukhakA hotA hai. bAkI AtmA koI mahimAva.nt hai, ek alag tattttva hai, usame.n agAdh j~nAn bharA hai, usake ananta guN koI apUrva hai.n, aise bhI mahimA Aye. tattva koI agAdh ga.nbhIratAse bharA hai, aise bhI mahimA AtI hai. koI agAdh ga.nbhIratA hai. use ek j~nAnase pahachAn sake aisA hai. anya koI rItase pahachAnA nahI.n jAye aisA hai. aisA koI mahimAva.nt padArtha (hai). a.ntarame.n jAye, usame.n dR^iShTi kare, usame.n lInatA kare to pahachAname.n Aye. aisA koI anupam hai ki jise kisIkI upamA lAgU nahI.n paDatI, aisA anupam hai. aise bhI mahimA AtI hai. padArthakI anupamatAse, padArthakI


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ga.nbhIratAse, padArthake ananta guNo.nse ki jisake guNo.nkA pAr nahI.n hai. aisA agAdh tattva kaisA hogA? aise bhI mahimA Aye. ... parantu mukhya use sukh (hai), bhaTakatA hai usame.n sukhakI ichChAse bAhar bhaTakatA hai. jahA.N duHkh lagatA hai, vahA.N-se ekadam pIChe muD jAtA hai. jahA.N atya.nt duHkh aur AkUlatA, jahA.N duHkhake prasa.ng Aye vahA.N-se bhAgatA phiratA hai. kahA.N sukh mile, kahA.N sukh mile?

mumukShuH- vah to jIvakI svAbhAvik paryAy hai ki duHkh ho vahA.N-se bhAganA.

samAdhAnaH- bhAganA, vahI use pariNatime.n andar hotA hai. .. lage, phir bhale hI apanI kalpanAse duHkh lagA ho, parantu duHkh lagatA hai isaliye vah bhAgatA hai. aisI use pratIt ho ki sukh bAhar to nahI.n hai, jahA.N sukh lene bhAgatA hU.N, vahA.N kahI.n bhI sukh to milatA nahI.n. isaliye sukh koI aur jagah hai. koI a.ntarame.nse, aisA sukh a.ntar tattvame.nse A jAo ki jo sukh a.ntarame.n honA chAhiye. aisA samajhakar vApas muDatA hai. jo shAshvat hai, jise bAhya sAdhanakI koI jarUrat nahI.n hai, jo parAdhIn nahI.n hai, jo svaya.nsiddha hai, jise koI toD nahI.n sakatA, jise koI vighna nahI.n Ate. usake liye svaya.n vApas muDatA hai. AtmA j~nAyak jAnane vAlA hai, usakA j~nAnaguN koI apUrva hai. aisA samajhakar bhI muDatA hai, parantu mukhya to use sukhakA hetu har jagah hotA hai. sukhakA hetu har jagah hotA hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!
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