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mumukShuH- usame.n to jIvako apaneme.n j~nAn hai, astitva hai, aisA thoDA-thoDA khyAlame.n AtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- dUsarA khyAlame.n nahI.n AtA, lekin use padArthakI ga.nbhIratA bhAsit ho to Aye. shAstra (par), mahApuruSho.n par vishvAs rakhe. yah tattva hai vah koI apUrva ananta ga.nbhIratAse bharA hai aur svaya.n vichAr kare, svaya.n use pakaD nahI.n sakatA ho to usame.n koI ga.nbhIratA bharI hai, aise vichAr karake bhI svaya.nko ga.nbhIratA bhAsit ho to Age baDhe. bhAsit ho aisA hI tattva hai.

usakA ek j~nAnaguN aisA hai ki ek j~nAnaguN hI jise kram nahI.n paDatA, ek samayame.n lokAlokako jAne. bhUtakAl, vartamAn aur bhaviShya usake dravya-guN-paryAy, aise ananta-ananta dravya, usakA bhUtakAl, vartamAnakAl aur bhaviShyakAl, jo ek samayame.n jAnane vAlA j~nAn koI agAdh hai. usakA pAr nahI.n yA buddhise vichAr kare to use vichArame.n baiTh sake. bAkI ek j~nAnaguN hI aisA agAdh ga.nbhIr hai.

mumukShuH- baiThe phir bhI usakI agAdhatA use..

samAdhAnaH- usakI agAdhatA, ga.nbhIratA, mahimA bhAse. ek samayame.n lokAlok (jAne), aise ananta lokAlok ho to bhI j~nAname.n utanI ananta shakti hai ke ek samayame.n sab jAnane vAlA. jisame.n kram nahI.n paDatA, ek sAth ek samayame.n (jAn letA hai). kShayopasham j~nAname.n to ekakA vichAr kare, dUsarA bhUl jAye, aisA hotA hai. isame.n to use sab pratyakSha (jAnaneme.n AtA hai), kuCh bhUlatA nahI.n, pratyakSha dekhatA hai, jAnatA hai. isake sivA usake ananta guN use dikhAI nahI.n dete, parantu amuk vichArase nakkI kare, bhale dikhAI nahI.n de. amuk jo mahApuruSho.nne kahA use vichArase nakkI kare aur amuk vishvAsase nakkI kare.

astitva grahaN kare, in sabame.n mai.n kahI.n nahI.n hU.N. apanA astitva, jo j~nAyak astitva hai (use grahaN kare). pahale use sukhakA vedan nahI.n AtA. j~nAyakakA astitva grahaN kare. j~nAnaguN aisA asAdhAraN hai ki j~nAn j~nAyakatAse mai.n svaya.n j~nAyak hU.N, aisA grahaN hotA hai. lekin sukh AdikI use a.ntarame.n pratIt A jAtI hai. use anubhUti

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to bAdame.n hotI hai, pahale use sab pratIt ho jAtI hai. aur vah pratIt hotI hai ki dR^iDh pratIt (hotI hai) ki kisIse chalAyamAn nahI.n ho, aisI pratIt pahale A jAtI hai. pariNatirUp bAdame.n hotA hai, parantu pratIt AtI hai.

samAdhAnaH- .. aisA nakkI karake bAra.nbAr usake vichAr kare ki mai.n to bhinna hI hU.N. ye vikalpa merA svarUp nahI.n hai. aisA a.ntarame.n bAra.nbAr usakA prayAs kare, usakI laganI lagAye. khAte-pIte, jAgate-sote, svapname.n usakI laganI hotI hai ki mai.n to bhinna hU.N. aisI laganI a.ntarase laganI chAhiye, bAra.nbAr mai.n bhinna hU.N. vah bhedaj~nAnakA prayAs (hai), yathArtha bhedaj~nAn, sachchA bhedaj~nAn bAdame.n hotA hai, parantu pahale usakI laganI lagatI hai. tabatak vichAr kare, vA.nchan kare, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA Aye. gurudev kyA kahate the, bhagavAnane pUrNa svarUp prApta kiyA, guru kaise hote hai.n, gurukA kyA svarUp hotA hai, gurudevane kyA mArga batAyA hai, yah sab nakkI kare, shAstrame.n mArga kyA AtA hai, yah sab nakkI kare. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA kare, vah sab shubhabhAv hai, lekin pahale vah bIchame.n Aye binA nahI.n rahate. AtmA-shuddhAtmA prApta nahI.n ho tabatak bIchame.n Ate hai.n. parantu dhyey use yah hotA hai ki mujhe shuddhAtmA prApta karanA hai. mujhe AtmA kaise prApta ho, a.ntarase laganI laganI chAhiye. use khaTak rahA kare. jisakI svaya.nko ichChA ho aur vah nahI.n prApta hotA ho to kaise andar khaTak (rahatI hai), bAr-bAr yAd AtA hai. vaise use yAd Aye.

apanI mA.N ho, to merI mA.N. jahA.N bhI jAye, koI pUChe ki tU kaun hai? terA nAm kyA hai? bAlak samajhatA nahI.n ho to bAlak, merI mA.N, merI mA.N bolatA hai. aise merI mA.N, merI mA.N, kaisA a.ntarame.n hotA hai? vaise mujhe AtmA kaise prApta ho? aisI laganI laganI chAhiye. usakA bAra.nbAr prayAs kare, bhedaj~nAnakA abhyAs kare, bAra.nbAr mai.n bhinna hU.N, mai.n bhinna hU.N, mai.n bhinna hU.N. mAtra vikalpa Upar-Uparase kare vah alag bAt hai, parantu a.ntarase honA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- AtmA to apane pAs hI hai.

samAdhAnaH- apane pAs hI hai. dR^iShTAnta to aisA hI hotA hai na. AtmA apane pAs hai, parantu bhUl gayA hai. biChaD gayA hU.N, aisA use ho gayA hai. use aisA ho gayA hai, bhUl gayA hai. AtmA svaya.n hI hai, parantu mai.n biChaD gayA hU.N. mAno AtmA kahI.nkA kahI.n chalA gayA ho aur mai.n biChaD gayA hU.N. sharIrame.n ekamek ho gayA hU.N, gum ho gayA hai, aisA use ho gayA hai.

bakareke jhu.nDame.n si.nh A gayA. si.nh bhUl gayA ki (mai.n si.nh hU.N), mAno mai.n bakarI hU.N, aisA ho gayA hai. si.nh bhUl gayA ki mai.n kaun hU.N? ye bakare bhinna aur merA lakShaN

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bhinna hai, vah bhUl gayA hai. isaprakAr svaya.n bhUl gayA hai. usame.n si.nhako koI kahane vAlA mile ki are..! tU is bakarIke jhu.nDame.n si.nh ho. lakShaNase pahachAn karavAye.

aise gurudev lakShaNase pahachAn karavAte haiai.n ki are..! tU to AtmA jAnane vAlA hai. yah sharIr tU nahI.n hai. tU usase bhinna hai. tU dekh, andar jAnane vAlA AtmA hai. aise gurudev mArgakI pahachAn karavAte hai.n. us mArgako grahaN karanA chAhiye, bAra.nbAr dR^iDhatA karake. usake liye sab ChoD de yA aisA kuCh nahI.n hai. andarakI ruchi laganI chAhiye. use a.ntarame.n ras kam ho jAye. ras kam ho jAye. bAharakA sab rahatA hai, bAhar sab karatA ho, lekin andar ras ChUT jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- jIvako svaya.nse vichAr karanepar buddhipUrvak aisA vishvAs utpanna hotA hai...

samAdhAnaH- astitvako grahaN karanA. yah mai.n hU.N. merA jo svabhAv, us svabhAvakI pariNatirUp, svabhAvarUp pariNaman ho, usame.n hI sab hai. utanA vishvAs, utanA sa.ntoSh use A jAtA hai. ruchi uTh jAtI hai.

mumukShuH- bAharame.n kahI.n bhI nahI.n milegA, aisA bhI use pakkA ho jAye.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, pakkA ho jAye, bAharame.n kuCh nahI.n milane vAlA nahI.n hai. bAharase jo mAnyatA hai vah sab jUThI hai. bAharase sab parAdhIn hai. parAdhInatAme.n kahI.n sukh nahI.n hai. sab bAharakA hai. sab vibhAvik hai, svAbhAvik nahI.n hai. j~nAn bAharase kahI.nse nahI.n AtA hai, sukh bAharase kahI.nse nahI.n AtA hai. sab apaneme.n bharA hai. use bojh lagatA nahI.n, use yAd nahI.n rakhanA paDatA. sab sahaj jAnatA hai.

j~nAnaguN koI agAdh ga.nbhIratAse bharA hai. svaya.n shAmil hokar, bhAvako apane svabhAvame.nse nakkI kar le. vichArarUpase sthUlarUpase hotA hai, Age baDhakar apane svabhAvake sAth milAn karake bhI pratIt AtI hai. vah bhAvabhAsanarUp (hai).

mumukShuH- shAstrase aur j~nAnIke vachano.nse...

samAdhAnaH- shAstrase, j~nAniyo.nke vachano.nse, yuktike avalambanase. andar yuktike avalambanase. usakI yukti aisI hotI hai ki jo kahI.n TUTe nahI.n, aisI nirbAdh yuktise nakkI kare. svaya.n apane svabhAvake sAth milAn karake aise yuktise nakkI kare. svabhAv j~nAnakA hai. jo andar AkUlatAkA vedan ho rahA hai aur is AkUlatAke sivA bhI andar akelA j~nAn hai, usame.n amuk nirAkUlatA hai, usame.n sukh bhI (hai). amuk apane vedanase jo svaya.nko bhAvame.n vedan ho rahA hai, apane svabhAvase milAn karake aisI yuktise nakkI kare. guruke vachano.nkA avalamban, shAstravachano.nkA avalamban letA hai.

mumukShuH- .. Dor dravyake hAthame.n hI hai aur dravyadR^iShTi vAleko dR^iShTike hAthame.n Dor hai yAnI ki usIke avalambanase hI sabhI paryAye.n hotI hai. yah bAt bahut sundar AyI,

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mAtAjI! usakA thoDA adhik vistAr karake..

samAdhAnaH- vah to sahaj aise A gayA. Dor to dravyadR^iShTike hAthame.n hI hai. paryAy svatantra pariNamatI hai, parantu use dravyakA AdhAr hai aur dravyadR^iShTikA AdhAr hai. dR^iShTike AdhAr binA paryAy svata.ntra (aise nahI.n pariNamatI). jo vibhAvakI or jisakI dR^iShTi hai, ekatvabuddhikI or, usakI sabhI paryAy vaise hI pariNamatI hai, vibhAvakI ora. aur jisakI dR^iShTi svabhAvakI or gayI, jisakI dR^iShTiko dravyakA avalamban huA, usakI sabhI paryAye.n svabhAvakI or pariNamatI hai. isaliye dravyadR^iShTi hai vahI puruShArthakI Dor usake hAth lagI hai. dravyadR^iShTi-dravyakA dR^iShTime.n Alamban liyA, vahI usakA puruShArtha hai. vah puruShArtha aur phir use lInatAkA bhI puruShArtha hai. dR^iShTikA bal hai aur lInatA bhI apanI or (hai). yAnI sabhI paryAy, dR^iShTike Alambanase sabhI paryAy svabhAvakI or pariNamatI hai.n. amuk adhurApan hai, utanA vibhAv hotA hai. bAkI use dR^iShTike Alambanase sabhI paryAye.n hotI hai.n. usakI paryAyako kramabaddha kahate hai.n, lekin usake sAth puruShArtha sAthame.n hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! ApakI charchAme.n pA.Nch bAr sunI, Apane karIb 10-15 bAr...

samAdhAnaH- kahate the ki dR^iShTi badal gayI, use hI kramabaddha lAgU paDatA hai. koI unhe.n pUChate the to aisA kahate the, tU j~nAyak ho jA. dR^iShTike sAth kramabaddha A gayA. aisA kahate the. dR^iShTikA AlambanakA kahate the usame.n sAthame.n puruShArtha A hI jAtA hai. gurudevane kartR^itva ChuDAneko tU kartA nahI.n hai, aisA kahate the. lekin tere puruShArthakI Dor to tere hAthame.n hI hai. puruShArtha binAkA kramabaddha, aise akelA kramabaddha lenese AtmArthIko kuCh karanA nahI.n (rahatA). AtmAkA prayojan jise usakI najar puruShArthakI or hI rahanI chAhiye. kramabaddha (anusAr) hotA hai aisA lenese AtmArthakA jo prayojan hai, mujhe AtmAkA karanA hai, usakI bhAvanA... (kramabaddha) par vajan detA rahe, use apanI or muDanA nahI.n rahatA. kartAbuddhi ChuDAneko (kahate hai.n) tU kuCh nahI.n kar sakatA. jaise paradravyake pariNAm tU badal nahI.n sakatA aur a.ntarame.n tere puruShArthakI Dor pragaT huyI, paryAy pariNamati hai, aisA kahanA hai. svabhAvakI ora. dR^iShTikI Dor usake hAthame.n hI rahI hai. us prakArase paryAy pariNamatI hai.

mumukShuH- Dor dravyake hAthame.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, Dor dravyake hAthame.n hai. jaise ThIk paDe vaise paryAy pariNamatI rahe, usame.n mai.n kyA karu.N? aisA usame.n nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- bahut sundar bAt AyI.

samAdhAnaH- dravyadR^iShTike Alamban binA vah vaise nahI.n pariNamatI. svabhAvakI or

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paryAy gayI, dravyadR^iShTike (jorame.n) svabhAvakI or (gayI). anAdise pariNamatA hai, to bhI dravyake Alamban binA, dravyake binA paryAy pariNamatI hI nahI.n. vah svata.ntra honeke bAvajUd dravyake Ashray binA paryAy pariNamatI nahI.n.

mumuukShuH- jab Apane Dor kahA, paryAyakI Dor dravyake hAthame.n hai, yah bAt itanI sundar thI.

samAdhAnaH- pariNamanA chAhe vaisI hI paryAy pariNamatI hai. usakI Dor usake hAthame.n hI hai. dravya hI nishchayase svata.ntra hai, parantu paryAy bhI ek a.nsh hai na, vah pariNamatA rahatA hai. paryAy pariNamatI rahatI hai isaliye us apekShAse use svata.ntra kahA. lekin paryAy aisI svata.ntra nahI.n hai ki dravyake AdhAr binA, dravyake Dor binA, apaneAp jaise ThIk paDe vaise pariNaman kare. aisI svata.ntratA use nahI.n hai. lekin vah ek a.nsh hai aur paryAy ekake bAd ek, ekake bAd pariNamatI rahatI hai, isaliye paryAyako us apekShAse svata.ntra kahaneme.n AtI hai.

mumukShuH- vAstavikatAse to dravya svata.ntra hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vAstavikatAse dravya svata.ntra hai.

mumukShuH- paryAy aur dravyakA, dono.nkA astipanA batAnA ho to itanA bhed karake..

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, utanA bhed (hotA hai ki) paryAy svata.ntra hai. j~nAnaguN ho to j~nAname.nse j~nAnakI paryAy AtI hai, darshaname.nse darshanakI, chAritrame.nse chAritrakI. chAritraguName.nse chAritrakI paryAy AtI hai. aise jisakA jo svabhAv hai us rUp paryAy pariNamatI hai, isaprakAr paryAy bhI ek svata.ntra pariNamatI hai. lekin usakI Dor dravyake hAthame.n hai.

mumukShuH- palaTatI hai usame.n mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, isaprakAr pariNAmako palaTatA hai, to usame.n koI kartR^itva AtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- kartR^itva nahI.n AtA hai, svaya.n j~nAyak hai. usame.n paryAy palaTatI hai. kartAbuddhi nahI.n honI chAhiye. bAkI pariNaman, svaya.n pariNamatA hai. vah bhI ek prakArakI usakI kriyA hotI hai. paryAyakI bhI kriyA hotI hai.

mumukShuH- vahA.N kartAbuddhi nahI.n hai, parantu svaya.n karatA hai isaliye us apekShAse svaya.n kartA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, kartA, kriyA, karma. dravyako kartA kahaneme.n AtA hai. lekin vah paryAy bhI pariNamatI hai svata.ntra, isaliye paryAyakA kartA paryAy aisA (kahate hai.n). parantu paryAy aisI svata.ntra nahI.n hai ki dravyake Ashray binA, dravyakI Dor binA pariName. aisI svata.ntratA paryAyame.n nahI.n hai. (chAhe jaise) paryAy pariNamatI rahe aisA nahI.n hai.

jo jij~nAsu AtmArthI ho, use svaya.nkI bhAvanA anusAr kuCh hove hI nahI.n, aisA

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artha ho gayA. paryAy svata.ntra pariNamatI hai, ab mai.n kyA karu.N? aisA hI hone vAlA thA. aise nahI.n. bhAvanA, usakI jij~nAsA Adi paryAy aisI pariNamatI hai. Upar-Upar nahI.n pariNamatI. j~nAyak ho gayA, jo sAdhakakI or muD gayA, usakI to sabhI paryAy sAdhanAkI or muDatI hai. amuk bAdhak a.nsh gauN hai, lekin sAdhanAkI or usakI paryAy hotI hai.

mumukShuH- usakA kramabaddha achChA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, usakA kramabaddha hai. binA puruShArtha dR^iShTi hI nahI.n hai. kramabaddha hI hai, kyA karu.N? aisA karatA hai usakA kramabaddha (achChA nahI.n hai). jise puruShArthakI koI bhAvanA nahI.n hai, bachAv kare ki kramabaddha hai, kyA karu.N? to usakA kramabaddha vaisA hai. puruShArtha honevAlA hogA, vah ye sUchit karatA hai, puruShArtha yAnI mai.n kuCh karu.N. kuCh bal, koI parAkram karu.N, puruShArthame.n vaisI dhvani aur aisA bhAv rahA hai. phir puruShArtha honevAlA hogA, usakA koI artha nahI.n hai. vah to ek vastusthiti batAyI. terI bhAvanAme.n to mai.n mere puruShArthase, balase badalU.N, isaprakAr terI bhAvanAme.n to aise hI AnA chAhiye. bhAvanA badalU.N, mai.n palaTu.N, jo ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai use badalU.N. terI bhAvanAme.n aisA AnA chAhiye ki mai.n puruShArtha karu.N. to usake sAth kramabaddha juDA hI hai. un sabame.n puruShArtha mukhya hai. kramabaddha, svabhAv, kAlalabdhi sabame.n puruShArtha (hotA hai).

AtmArthIko, jise mokSha pragaT karanA hai, sukh pragaT karanA hai, AtmAkI svAnubhUti pragaT karanI hai, usakA vajan puruShArthakI or AnA chAhiye. to vah sAdhanAkI or muD sakatA hai. vastuko jAne ki mai.n kisIkA kuCh nahI.n kar sakatA. lekin mai.n merI bhAvanA kar sakatA hU.N. mai.n mere dravyako pahachAnakar dravyakI or muD sakatA hU.N, usame.n mai.n svata.ntra hU.N.

AtmAme.n kartAbuddhi ChuDAnekA unakA prayojan thA. tujhe dravyadR^iShTi pragaT huyI to sab kramabaddha hotA hai. tU usakA kartA mat ban, j~nAtA ho jA. aisA kahanA thA. dUsarA koI pUChe to aisA hI kahate the, tujhe kramabaddha hI nahI.n hai. tujhe j~nAyakakI dR^iShTi pragaT nahI.n huyI. jo j~nAtA huA use hI kramabaddha hai, aisA kahate the. aur koI kAlalabdhikA kuCh kahe to gurudevako vah pasanda nahI.n thA, ye kAlalabdhikI bAt karatA hai, aisA kahate the.

jitane bhav bhagavAnane dekhe ho.nge utane ho.nge. gurudevako pasanda nahI.n thA. sa.npradAyame.n vah bAt unhe.n baiThatI hI nahI.n thI. jitane bhav honevAle ho.nge, aise puruShArtha rokanevAlI bAt nahI.n karanI, aisA kahate the. isame.n unakA kahanekA Ashay alag thA. kartAbuddhi ChuDAneko aur j~nAyakatA pragaT karane hetu.

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mumukShuH- sundar, ApakI shailIme.n bahut sundar rUpase bAt kI.

samAdhAnaH- dravyake hAthame.n Dor hai. paryAy svata.ntra hai, parantu DorI dravyake hAthame.n hai. (naukar) dukAname.n kAm karatA ho, seThake hAthame.n DorI hai. vah sab to bhinna-bhinna dravya hai. sab Dor mAlikake hAthame.n, rAjAke hAthame.n hotI hai. isaprakAr dravyake hAthame.n Dor hai. vah sab to bhinna-bhinna dravya hai. ye to paryAy apanI aur dravya svaya.n ek hI vastu hai.