Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 246.

< Previous Page   Next Page >


Combined PDF/HTML Page 243 of 286

 

PDF/HTML Page 1614 of 1906
single page version

Trek-246 (audio) (View topics)

samAdhAnaH- gurudevakI Aj~nA huyI. phir maname.n aisA huA ki mai.n to kadAchit mAn lU.N, parantu ye sabako bechAro.nko... sabako duHkh ho, usakA kyA? gurudevane koI javAb nahI.n diyA. parantu us din sabako aisA ho gayA thA ki mAno.n gurudev virAjate ho.n. guruedavane bahut pramod-se kahA, mai.n yahI.n hU.N, aisA mAnanA. aisA kuCh nahI.n rakhanA, aisA kahA. svapna itanA hI thA. svapname.n Upar-se pAdhare ho.n, aisA svapna thA.

mumukShuH- ApakI bhAvanA-se gurudevakI dUj alaukik rUp-se manAyI gayI. vaishAkh shuklA-dUja.

samAdhAnaH- vaishAkh shukla-dUj, bahut achChI tarah-se manAyI gayI.

mumukShuH- .. svaya.n bhI padhAre ho, aisA ban sakatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- ban sakatA hai, apaneko lage gurudev svapname.n padhAre. gurudev gaye tab bhI thoDe mahine pahale bhI devakA aisA svapna AyA thA. gurudevake rUpame.n. mai.n yahI.n hU.N, aisA mAnanA. vah bhaktime.n joDA hai na? indra sarIkhA shobhI rahyA Che..

mumukShuH- vah svapnake anusa.ndhAname.n hai?

samAdhAnaH- svapna aur a.ntar-se sab juDA hai. mujhe to aisA bhAvanA hotI hai ki gurudev yahA.N-se vimAname.n jAte ho, .. padhArate hai.n. gurudev sIma.ndhar bhagavAnakI vANI sunane (jAte hai.n). aisI bhAvanA ho, devo.nkI to shakti hai, sIdhe mahAvidehame.n jAye. parantu ye bharat aur mahAvideh dono.n samIp hai. sIma.ndhar bhagavAn jahA.N virAjate hai.n, vah mahAvideh aur yah bharat, ghAtukI khaNDa dUr hai, parantu bhagavAn virAjate hai.n vah mahAvideh aurayah bharatakShetra dono.n samIp hai. ye bharatakShetra to bIchame.n AtA hai. devo.nko to bIchame.n Aye yA na Aye, ve to avadhij~nAn-se jAn sakate hai.n.

mumukShuH- is bAr Apako phoTome.n kuCh prakAsh jaisA lagatA thA.

samAdhAnaH- sab log kahate the ki gurudev sAkShAt virAjate hai.n. phir in logo.nne viDIyo dikhAyA to viDIyamo.n kaun jAne aisA prakAsh, aisA kuCh lagA ki mAno.n gurudev hai. mai.nne to vahA.N mAtra darshan kiye, mai.n to is or baiThI thI. dUsare log kahate the. darshan karate samay ... utanI bAt hai. parantu ye viDIyome.n mujhe aisA lagA ki ye kis


PDF/HTML Page 1615 of 1906
single page version

jAtakA lagatA hai? gurudev sAkShAt virAjate hai.n, aisA bhAv AyA. us jAtakA viDIyokA koI prakAsh A gayA hai.

mumukShuH- prasa.ng itanA sundar rUp-se manAyA gayA ki aisA thoDA anumAn ho ki gurudev sAkShAt yahA.N padhAre ho.n.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, padhAre ho aisA lage.

mumukShuH- AshIrvAdakA phoTo hI aisA lagatA thA ki mAno AshIrvAd diye ho.n. sAkShAt padhAre ho.n.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevakA mastak aur ye sab alag dikhatA thA, mAno.n sAkShAt kyo.n na ho! aisA dikhe. mujhe to kuCh mAlUm nahI.n thA, sab kahate the. lekin kaun-sA phoTo aur kyA lagatA hai, viDIyome.n achAnak dekhA to aisA hI lagA.

mumukShuH- ApakI gurudev prati bhakti hI aisI hai.

samAdhAnaH- aisA ho. bAkI gurudev to devame.n virAjate hai.n.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- koI-koI bAr bolU vah Aye. bAkI..

mumukShuH- hame to utanA hI chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- prasa.ng ho tab A jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- madhyastha logo.nko to bahut lAbh huA hai. ... kahate hai.n ki bahut..

samAdhAnaH- tattva charchA karate ho us vakta dhUname.n bhale yathArtha AtA ho, bAhar prakAshit karaneme.n chAro.n pahalU Ane chAhiye. vah sab usame.n dhyAn rakhanA paDe. viDiyo to kabhI-kabhI lete hai.n.

mumukShuH- Apako to sahaj hotA hai, usame.n Apako dhyAn rakhanA paDe...

samAdhAnaH- vah to sahaj AtA hai.

mumukShuH- charchAme.n chAro.n pahalUo.nko Ap samAviShTa karI hI dete ho. Ap kahate ho, lekin us charchAme.n us viShayame.n Ap chAro.n pahalUo.nko dUsare-tIsare prakAr-se A hI jAtA hai. bhAI aisA nahI.n kahate hai.n ki kisIko sha.nkA paDe aur dUsarA artha nikAle. aisA bhI nahI.n hotA.

samAdhAnaH- pahale din charchA prashname.n bhedaj~nAnakI dhUn thI to bhedaj~nAnakA bolI, phir dUsarI bAr Apane pUChA. phir chAro.n pahalUse spaShTa AyA. pahale bhedaj~nAn par vajan AyA, phir Apane prashna kiyA to jyAdA spaShTa ho gayA.

mumukShuH- parantu samajhanevAlA AtmA samajh jAtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vah to samajh (jAy), Ashay samajh jAnA chAhiye.


PDF/HTML Page 1616 of 1906
single page version

mumukShuH- apekShAo.NkI khI.NchatAn-se jo kuCh ulajhane.n utpanna huyI hai, Ap spaShTIkaraN karate ho to sabako ek jAtakA samAdhAn bhI ho jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- sabake pakSha aise ho gaye hai.n. jise jij~nAsA ho vah samajhatA hai. bAkI sabakI dR^iShTi anusAr sab khI.nchate hai.n. .. bAt aisI hai, sabakI dR^iShTi anusAr khI.Nch lete hai. jise jij~nAsA yathArtha ho, use barAbar samajhame.n Aye aisA hai. aisA bahut bAr hotA hai. to bhI koI prasa.ng ho to tab Ap viDIyo lAte hI ho.

mumukShuH- hame.n to Ap pharamAte ho, isaliye vah prasa.ng hI ban jAtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- .. gurudevane to chAro.n or barasAt barasA gaye hai.n. mai.n to ThIk, prashna pUChe usake javAb detI hU.N. gurudevane chAro.n or mUsalAdhAr bArIsh barasA dI hai. har jagar a.nkur utpanna ho gaye, aisI barasAt barasAyI hai. Am boye hai.n.

mumukShuH- bArIsh barasaneke bAd kisIne a.ngIkAr kar liyA ho, usame.n-se bhI nadI, jharane Adi bahate hai.n na. usakA bhI lAbh to milanA chAhiye na. ... dete ho.nge, usakA lAbh to ham lenevAle hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- Ap Ate ho tab prashna to pUChate hI ho.

mumukShuH- bAlak ho to usakI ek Adat hotI hai ki mAtAko thoDA pareshAn kare. aur mAtAko aisA hotA hai ki bAlak pareshAn kare to bhI maname.n use Ananda hotA hai ki bhale bAlak pareshAn kare. isaliye ham bAlak jaise hai.n.

samAdhAnaH-

prashna-charchA hotI hai, bAkI svAsthya aisA rahatA hai, isaliye thoDI dikkat hotI hai. gurudevane bahut (samajhAyA hai). bahut prashna ho gaye hai.n.

mumukShuH- .. svaparaprakAshak hai aisA bhI kahaneme.n AtA hai. dono.nkI vivakShA kyA hai? kahA.N vajan hai?

samAdhAnaH- svaprakAshak arthAt svaya.n parame.n jAtA nahI.n hai, par padArthake sAth ek nahI.n ho jAtA hai. sva aur para. jo bhI jAnatA hai, vah svaya.n j~nAnake svabhAv-se jAnatA hai. par-se svaya.n jAnatA nahI.n hai. isaliye svaprakAshak kahaneme.n AtA hai. bAkI svaparaprakAshak usakA svabhAv hai.

svaprakAshak yAnI svako hI jAne aur parako jAnatA hI nahI.n, use parakA kuCh j~nAn hI nahI.n hotA hai, aisA usakA artha nahI.n hai. to-to usakA j~nAnasvabhAv maryAdit ho jAya. svaprakAshak yAnI parako jAnatA hI nahI.n, aisA ho to j~nAn maryAdit ho jAya. vAstavame.n svaya.n apanI pariNatime.n rahe, svabhAvame.n rahe aur sahaj j~nAt ho jAya. arthAt j~nAn j~nAnako jAnatA hai, j~nAn parako nahI.n jAnatA hai, us apekShA-se aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai. parantu j~nAn j~nAnako jAne yAnI vah dUsare kA kuCh svarUp jAnatA nahI.n hai,


PDF/HTML Page 1617 of 1906
single page version

aisA nahI.n hai.

vah j~neyo.nkA svarUp jAnatA hai. j~nAname.n sab j~neyo.nkA svarUp AtA hai. ananta j~ney jo jagatame.n hai.n, ChaH dravya, usake dravya-guN-paryAy, usakA bhUt-vartamAn-bhaviShya sab usake j~nAname.n AtA hai. yadi j~nAname.n na Aye to use j~nAnasvabhAv kaise kahe.n? j~nAnaguN use kahate hai.n ki jisame.n maryAdA na ho, aisA guN ho. isaliye vah pUrNa jAnatA hai. j~nAname.n use sab AtA hai. upayog bAhar nahI.n jAtA, apanI pariNatime.n rahakar, j~nAn j~nAname.n rahakar sab jAnatA hai. aisA usakA svabhAv hai. isaliye svaparaprakAshak is tarah hai.

parame.n jAkar, usakA kShetra ChoDakar bAhar nahI.n jAtA hai. apane kShetrame.n rahakar jAne, yAnI j~nAn j~nAnake svarUpako jAne, j~nAn j~nAnako jAne, aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai. lekin vah j~nAn j~nAnako jAne isaliye usame.n dUsarekA j~nAn AtA hI nahI.n hai, aisA nahI.n hai. pUre lokAlokakA j~nAn, narka, svarga, pUre lokAlokakA j~nAn, ChaH dravya, usake dravya- guN-paryAy, bhUt-vartamAn-bhaviShya kuCh na jAne, yadi vah nahI.n jAnatA ho to. j~nAname.n sab AtA hai. ataH j~nAn svaparaprakAshak hai.

kevalaj~nAn hotA hai tab sahaj j~nAt hotA hai, usakA svabhAv hI hai. nahI.n hotA tabatak usakA adhUrA j~nAn hai. svaya.n apane svarUpame.n rahe isaliye usakA upayog bAhar nahI.n hotA, isaliye nirvikalpatAke samay use bAharakA upayog nahI.n hai. bAkI usake j~nAnakA nAsh nahI.n huA hai. j~nAnakI shakti to amaryAdit hai.

mumukShuH- matalab upayogAtmak rUpase bAharakA jAnanA us vakta nahI.n hotA.

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n hai, upayogAtmak nahI.n hai. bAkI usame.n aisI jAnanekI shakti nahI.n hai, aisA nahI.n hai. pratyabhij~nAn... j~nAn to hai, aisA svabhAv hai. to bhUtakAlakA kuCh jAne hI nahI.n, bhaviShyakA kuCh jAne hI nahI.n. aisA nahI.n hai. kevalaj~nAn hone- se pahale pUrvakA sab jAne aisA usakA .. hai. nahI.n hai, aisA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- pUrvakA jAnatA hai, vartamAn jAnatA hai aur bhaviShyakA..

samAdhAnaH- bhaviShyakA jAne, sab jAn sakatA hai. aisA usakA svabhAv hai. usakI dishA par taraph-j~ney taraph (hai). terI dishA badal de. terI dishA svasanmukh kar de. tere svadravya taraph terI dishA badal de. bAkI kuCh j~nAt nahI.n hotA hai, aisA nahI.n hai. apanI pariNati sva-or gayI aur upayog svaya.n nirvikalpa svarUpame.n sthir huA, isaliye bAharakA upayog nahI.n hai, isaliye j~nAt nahI.n hotA. usakA svabhAv nAsh nahI.n huA. vah adhUrA j~nAn hai isaliye kram-kram-se j~nAn jAnatA hai. upayog andar sthir ho gayA, isaliye bAharakA j~nAt nahI.n hotA.

mumukShuH- upayogAtmak sthiti alag hai aur svabhAvakI sthiti..


PDF/HTML Page 1618 of 1906
single page version

samAdhAnaH- svabhAvakI pariNati... samyagdR^iShTi apane astitvakI jo pratIt huyI, use j~nAyakakI dhArA hai. vah pariNati j~nAyak j~nAyakarUp pariNamatI hai. aur mai.n is svarUp hU.N aur is svarUp nahI.n hU.N, aisI pariNati to use sahaj chalatI hai. mai.n chaitanya j~nAyak svarUp hU.N aur is svarUp nahI.n hU.N. yah hU.N aur yah nahI.n hU.N. aisI do jAtakI usakI pariNati, aisA sahaj j~nAn use vartatA hI rahatA hai. upayogarUp nahI.n hai. vah labdha hai usakA matalab ek or paDA hai, aisA nahI.n. use vedaname.n aisA AtA hai ki mai.n yah hU.N aur yah nahI.n hU.N. yah mai.n hU.N-j~nAyak hU.N aur yah nahI.n hU.N. aisA sahaj j~nAn nira.ntar use j~nAyakakI dhArA rahatI hI hai. savikalpa dashAme.n aisI j~nAyakadhArA vartatI rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- aha.npanA rUp vR^itti athavA vyApAr nira.ntar chalatA hI rahatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- vah nira.ntar chalatI hai. mai.n yah hU.N, isaliye usame.n mai.n nahI.n hU.N, aisA A jAtA hai. mai.n yah hU.N, isaliye parase bhinna yah mai.n hU.N.

mumukShuH- yah mai.n hU.N, aisI pariNati (vartatI hai to) vahA.N use svaprakAshak kahanA hai?

samAdhAnaH- svaprakAshak aur par, dono.n sAthame.n A gayA. svaparaprakAshak hai. usakI pariNati svaparaprakAshak hai. pratIti-yah mai.n hU.N-aisA dR^iDh hai. pratIti nirvikalpa hai, parantu j~nAnakI dhArA hai ki yah mai.n hU.N aur yah nahI.n hU.N, vah svaparaprakAshak hai. asti aur nAsti dono.n j~nAname.n A gayA hai. pratItime.n mai.n yah hU.N, dR^iShTime.n yah mai.n hU.N, aisA (hai). bAkI j~nAnakI-j~nAyakakI dhArA chalatI hai. yah mai.n hU.N aur yah nahI.n hU.N. us jAtakI sahaj pariNati hai.

mumukShuH- dishA sva taraph karanI hai, vah ek alag bAt hai. bAkI svabhAv to aisA hI hai.

samAdhAnaH- svabhAv to aisA hI hai. dishA sva taraph palaTanI hai. samAdhAnaH- dravya-guN-paryAy to vastukA svabhAv hai. paryAy ek a.nsh (hai). a.nsh jitanA a.nshI nahI.n hai. (a.nshI) akhaNDa hai, vah to a.nsh hai. dR^iShTikI apekShA-se paryAy mereme.n nahI.n hai. paryAy hai hI nahI.n, aisA to nahI.n hai. dravya-guN-paryAy vastukA svabhAv hai.

j~nAn sabakA hotA hai. dravya-guN-paryAy sabakA. paryAy jitanA, ek a.nsh jitanA kShaNik, aisA kShaNik svabhAv AtmAkA nahI.n hai. AtmA shAshvat hai. paryAy kShaN-kShaN palaTatI rahatI hai. aise j~nAn karanA. paryAy nahI.n hove to paryAy Upar-Upar nahI.n hotI hai, paryAy dravyake Ashrayase hotI hai.

mumukShuH- shikharajIme.n charchA huyI thI gurudevakI varNIjIke sAth, usame.n unho.nne kahA thA ki ... hotA hai. to gurudevane kahA thA, rAgakI paryAy .. hotI hai.


PDF/HTML Page 1619 of 1906
single page version

samAdhAnaH- kisake sAth charchA huyI thI?

mumukShuH- varNIjIke sAtha.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, apane puruShArthakI mandatA-se rAgakI paryAy hotI hai. shuddhAtmAkI shuddha paryAy shuddhAtmAke Ashray-se hotI hai. aur puruShArthakI kamajorI-se rAgakI paryAy hotI hai. karma karavAtA nahI.n. karma jabarajastI nahI.n karavAtA. AtmA svaya.n rAgarUp pariNamatA hai.

jaise sphaTik harA, pIlA rUp pariNamatA hai, vah sphaTik pariNamatA hai. lAl- pIle phUl usame.n nahI.n Ate. vah to nimitta hai. pariNaman sphaTikakA hai. vaise pariNaman chaitanyakA hai. aur mUl svabhAv jo sphaTikakA hai, usakA nAsh nahI.n hotA. AtmAke mUl svabhAvakA nAsh nahI.n hotA hai. usake shuddha svabhAvakA nAsh nahI.n hotA hai.

mumukShuH- paryAy dravyame.n-se nikalatI hai to nikalate-nikalate kuCh kam nahI.n hotI hai? andar-se nikalatI hai to?

samAdhAnaH- to-to dravyakA nAsh ho jAya. rAg bhItarame.n nahI.n hai, rAgarUp AtmA pariNamatA hai. shuddhAtmAkI shuddha paryAy shuddhAtmAke Ashray-se hotI hai. bhItar-se nikalate- nikalate (kam ho jAy) to dravyakA nAsh ho jAya. aisA nahI.n hai. dravya to ananta shakti (sa.npanna hai). ananta kAl dravya pariNaman karatA hai to bhI dravya to aisAkA aisA hai.

j~nAnakI paryAy ek samayame.n lokAlok jAnatI hai. to bhI ananta kAl pariNaman kare to usame.n kam nahI.n hotA hai. aisA koI dravyakA achi.ntya svabhAv hai. usame.n truT nahI.n paDatI. ananta kAl pariName to bhI.

samAdhAnaH- ... koI kAraN-se dravya utpanna huA hai yA koI kAraN-se usakA nAsh hotA hai, aisA nahI.n hai. dravya akAraN svataHsiddha anAdiananta hai. aur usakA jo pariNaman hai, vah svataH pariNamatA hai. vah kisIke Ashray-se pariNamatA hai yA koI use madad kare to pariNamatA hai, koI use viparIt kare to viparIt ho aur sulaTA kare to sulaTA ho, aisA nahI.n hai. akAraN pAriNAmik dravya-use koI kAraN lAgU nahI.n paDatA. vah svaya.n pariNamatA hai.

svaya.n anAdiananta svabhAvame.n pariName usame.n vibhAv andar usake svabhAvame.n pravesh nahI.n karatA. aisA akAraN svaya.n apane svabhAv-se pariNamatA hai, aisA usakA svabhAv hai. aur vibhAv ho to bhI vah svaya.n svata.ntra pariNamatA hai. aur svaya.n svabhAvako pragaT kare to bhI svata.ntra hai. usame.n nimitta kahaneme.n AtA hai, parantu vAstavame.n svaya.n pariNamatA hai. usame.n koI kAraN lAgU nahI.n paDatA. to hI use dravya kahA jAy ki jise koI kAraN lAgU nahI.n paDatA. koI nimittake Ashray-se pariName, kisIkI madad-se pariName to us dravyakI dravyatA hI nahI.n rahatI.


PDF/HTML Page 1620 of 1906
single page version

dravya hI use kahate hai.n ki jise kisIkI sahAyatAkI jarUrat na paDe. usakA nAm dravya hai. vah dravya anAdiananta svataHsiddha akAraN pariNamatA hai. vah usakA svabhAv hai. svaya.n apanA svabhAv kisI bhI prakAr-se toDatA nahI.n hai. aise to pariNamatA hai, parantu vibhAvame.n bhI karmakA nimittamAtra hai. svaya.n pariNamatA hai. svabhAvame.n palaTatA hai vah svaya.n-se palaTatA hai, svabhAv taraph bhedaj~nAn karake. usame.n dev-guru-shAstra nimitta hote hai.n. parantu upAdAn svaya.nkA hai.

vah akAraN pAriNAmik dravya hai ki jise koI kAraN lAgU nahI.n paDatA. abhI tak jIv svabhAv taraph kyo.n palaTatA nahI.n? vah usakA svaya.nkA kAraN hai, kisIkA kAraN nahI.n hai. use koI dUsarekA kAraN lAgU nahI.n paDatA. svaya.n apane hI kAraN- se vibhAvame.n pariName, apane kAraN svabhAvame.n pariName. aisA akAraN pAriNAmik dravya hai. aisA usakA pariNaman svabhAv svataHsiddha hai. koI use pariNaman karavAtA nahI.n aur kisI anya-se usakA nAsh nahI.n hotA.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!