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mumukShuH- shUnya kyA? ek a.nk to huA hI nahI.n hai. phir Uparake shUnya kyA hai? sab shUnya vyartha hai.n. binA ekake sab shUnya vyartha hai, usakA artha kyA?

samAdhAnaH- mUl ek to samyagdarshan hai. vah yadi ho to hI yathArtha hai. shUnya arthAt mAtra shUnya hI hue. mUl jo vastu hai usakI pahachAn nahI.n kI aur akele shubhabhAv kiye, puNyabandha huA. AtmAkA svabhAv to pahachAnAch nahI.n. isaliye jo a.ntarame.n AtmAkI prApti honI chAhiye vah to hotI nahI.n. mAtra shUnya-Uparake shubhabhAvarUp shUnya kiye. binA ekake shUnya. binA ekake shUnya kiye to use ek nahI.n kahate, vah to mAtra shUnya hai. vah ginatIme.n nahI.n AtA.

ek ho to usake Upar shUnya lagAo to ginatIme.n AtA hai. bAkI akele shUnya ginatIme.n nahI.n Ate. vaise shubhabhAv kiye, puNyabandha (huA), devalok huA. parantu AtmAkI pahachAn, jo svAnubhUti honI chAhiye, vah AtmA pragaT nahI.n huA tabatak sab shUnya hai.n. AtmA pragaT ho to hI vah yathArtha hai aur to hI mukti hotI hai. AtmAkI pahachAn binA kahI.n mukti nahI.n hotI.

samyagdarshan hotA hai to A.nshik mukti hotI hai. phir Age baDhe to andar chAritra- lInatA baDhatI jAya. bAhar-se chAritra Aye aisA nahI.n, a.ntarame.n lInatA baDhatI jAy to vItarAg dashA aur kevalaj~nAn pragaT hotA hai. bAhar-se tyAg kiyA, vairAgya kiyA, parantu AtmAko pahachAnA nahI.n. AtmAko pahachAne binA sab binA ek a.nkake shUnya jaisA hai. mUlako pahachAnA nahI.n. vR^ikShakI DAlI, patte sab ikaTThA kiyA, parantu mUl jo hai, us mUlame.n pAnI nahI.n DAlA. to vR^ikSha panapatA nahI.n.

mUl jo hai, mUl chaitanya svabhAv-chaitanya hai use pahachAnakar usame.n j~nAn-vairAgya pragaT ho to hI AtmAme.n-se j~nAn eva.n chAritra sab AtmAme.n-se pragaT hote hai.n. bAhar-se pragaT nahI.n hotA. ataH mUlako pahachAne binA pAnI pilAnA, usame.n vR^ikSha panapatA nahI.n. sab Uparake DAlI-patte hI hai.n. DAlI-patteko pAnI pIlAne-se vR^ikSha nahI.n hotA, mUlako pIlAne- se hotA hai. bIj jo boyA, bIjako pAnI pIlAne-se hotA hai. parantu bAhar Upar- se pAnI pIlAye, sirpha pAnI pIlAtA rahe to kahI.n vR^ikSha panapatA nahI.n. andar bhedaj~nAn

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kare to AtmA j~nAnasvabhAv (hai).

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- hA.N. AnandAdi sab AtmAme.n-se pragaT hotA hai. samyagdarshan ho isaliye AtmAkI svAnubhUti (hotI hai). AtmAkA j~nAn, AtmAkA Ananda, AtmAke ananta guNakA vedan jisame.n hotA hai. sukh, jo ananta sukh (pragaT hotA hai), jagatake koI padArthame.n sukh nahI.n hai, aisA anupam sukh AtmAme.n hai. bAharakA sukh usane kalpitarUp- se mAnA hai. vah to AkulatA-se bhare hai.n. a.ntarakA jo AtmAkA sukh vah koI anupam hai. use koI upamA lAgU nahI.n paDatA. aisA anupam sukh aur Ananda AtmAme.n-se pragaT hotA hai, vah samyagdarshaname.n pragaT hotA hai. vah bAhar-se nahI.n AtA.

mumukShuH- bhagavAn-bhagavAn kahakar sa.nbodhan karate the. to bhagavAn banane-se pahale bhagavAn kahakar kyo.n sa.nbodhan karate ho.nge?

samAdhAnaH- bhagavAnasvarUp hI AtmA hai. AtmA anAdiananta svabhAv-shakti apekShA- se bhagavAn hI hai. pragaT hotA hai arthAt usakI paryAy pragaT hotI hai. bAkI vastu apekShA-se AtmA bhagavAn hI hai. bhagavAnakA svabhAv hai. usakI shaktikA nAsh nahI.n huA hai. ananta kAl gayA to bhI usame.n ananta shaktiyA.N, j~nAnAdi ananta guN usame.n bhare hai.n, usakA nAsh nahI.n huA hai. isaliye AtmA bhagavAn hai, use tU pahachAna. tU svaya.n shakti apekShA-se bhagavAn hI hai, aisA gurudev kahate the.

us bhagavAnako tU bhUl gayA hai, use tU pahachAna. usame.n tU jA, usame.n lInatA kar, usakI shraddhA kar-pratIt kar, j~nAn kar to vah pragaT hogA, aisA kahate the. vah pragah hotA hai, vah pragaT bhagavAn hotA hai. bAkI shakti apekShA-se tU bhagavAn hI hai.

mumukShuH- binA paDhe, anapaDh AdamIko bhI samyagdarshan ho sakatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- usame.n kahI.n bAharakI paDhAIkI AvashyakatA nahI.n hai yA jyAdA jAne yA jyAdA shAstro.nkA abhyAs kare yA use jyAdA paDhAI ho to ho, aisA kuCh nahI.n hai. mUl AtmAkA svabhAv pahachAne ki mai.n j~nAnasvabhAv j~nAyak hU.N aur ye sab mujh- se bhinna hai. aisA bhedaj~nAn karake AtmAko pahachAne, mUl prayojanabhUt tattvako pahachAne to usame.n paDhAI koI AvashyakatA nahI.n hai.

mUl vastu svabhAvako a.ntarame.n-se pahachAnanA chAhiye. usakI ruchi, usakI mahimA, usakI lagan a.ntarame.n lage aur vibhAvame.n kahI.n chain paDe nahI.n, bAharame.n (chain) paDe nahI.n. aisI laganI aur mahimA yadi AtmAme.n lage to apane svabhAvako pahachAnakar a.ntarame.n jAy to use bAhya paDhAIkI AvashyakatA nahI.n hai.

shivabhUti muni kuCh nahI.n jAnate the. gurune kahA, mAruSh aur mAtuSha. to shabda bhUl

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gaye ki gurune kyA kahA thA? aurat dAl do rahI thI. mere gurune ye kahA thA, ChilakA alag aur dAl alaga. aise mAsatuSh-ye ChilakA bhinna aur andar (dAl bhinna hai).

aise AtmA bhinna hai aur ye vibhAv jo rAgAdi hai.n, vah sab Chilake hai.n. usase mai.n bhinna hU.N. aisA gurune kahA thA. is prakAr Ashay grahaN kar liyA. gurune jo shabda kahe the vah bhI vismR^it ho gaye. parantu Ashay grahaN kiyA ki mere gurune bhedaj~nAn karaneko kahA thA. rAg bhinna aur AtmA bhinna. isaprakAr a.ntarame.n mai.n AtmA bhinna hU.N aur ye vibhAv bhinna hai, sab bhinna hai. aisA karake a.ntarame.n bhedaj~nAn karake a.ntarame.n samyagdarshanakI prApti kar lIn ho gaye, svAnubhUti pragaT kI. aur a.ntarame.n itane lIn ho gaye ki usIme.n lIn hone-se kevalaj~nAn pragaT kar liyA. usame.n paDhAIkI AvashyakatA nahI.n hai. prayojanabhUt tattvako pahachAne usame.n paDhAIkI AvashyakatA nahI.n hai.

bhagavAnakA dravya, bhagavAnake guNa. bhagavAnake dravya-guN-paryAy aur mere dravya-guN- paryAya. jaise bhagavAnake dravya-guN-paryAy hai.n, vaise hI mere hai.n. is prakAr bhagavAnako pahachAne, vah svaya.nko pahachAne. aur svaya.nko pahachAne vah bhagavAnako pahachAnatA hai. mUl prayojanabhUt tattvako pahachAne to usame.n sab A jAtA hai. ekako pahachAnane-se sab j~nAt ho jAtA hai. bAharakA sab jAnane jAy aur ekako nahI.n jAnatA hai to kuCh nahI.n jAnA. ek AtmAko pahachAne to usame.n sab j~nAt ho jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- shubhakA vishvAs ChoD, mAne kyA? shubhakA vishvAs ChoDanA usakA artha kyA?

samAdhAnaH- shubhame.n-se mujhe dharma hogA. shubhame.n-se mujhe kuCh lAbh hogA, aisI jo mAnyatA hai, vah vishvAs ChoD de. shubh-se dharma nahI.n hotA, shubh bIchame.n AtA hai. parantu shuddhAtmA jo AtmA hai usase dharma hotA hai. dharma apane svabhAvame.n rahA hai, vibhAvame.n dharma nahI.n hai. dharma svabhAvame.n-se (pragaT hotA hai). jo vastu hai, usame.n-se dharma pragaT hotA hai. shubhame.n-se dharma pragaT nahI.n hotA, isaliye usakA vishvAs ChoD de. bIchame.n shubhabhAvanA AtI hai.

a.ntar AtmAkI jahA.N ruchi pragaT ho, use dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti, mahimA AtI hai. jinendra dev par bhakti, guru par bhakti, gurudevane aisA mArga batAyA, gurudev par bhakti, shAstra par bhakti AtI hai. shubhabhAvanA AtI hai. parantu merA svabhAv shuddhAtmA, us shuddhAtmAkA svabhAv aur ye shubhabhAv donoe.n bhinna-bhinna vastu hai. aisI use shraddhA aur ruchi honI chAhiye. usakA vishvAs, usame.n sarvasvatA nahI.n mAnatA. parantu vah bIchame.n AtA hai. dev- guru-shAstrakI bhakti, mahimA bIchame.n Aye binA nahI.n rahatI.

samyagdarshan ho to bhI dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA aur bhakti hotI hai. aur ruchivAnako

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bhI dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA hotI hai. munirAj hote hai.n, ChaThave.n-sAtave.n guNasthAname.n jhulate hai.n. a.ntarmuhUrtame.n svAnubhUti aur a.ntarmuhUrtame.n bAhar (Ate hai.n), aisI dashA hotI hai. to bhI unhe.n shubhabhAvanA (AtI hai). abhI nyUnatA hai to dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA munirAjako bhI hotI hai. parantu us par ve vishvAs nahI.n karate hai.n ki isame.n dharma hotA hai. dharma mere svabhAvame.n, svAnubhUtime.n dharma rahA hai, svabhAvame.n dharma rahA hai. parantu shubhabhAv to... dev-guru-shAstra to sAth hI rahate hai.n. dev-guru-shAstrakI bhAvanA use sAthame.n rahatI hai, parantu puruShArtha svaya.n-se karatA hai.

munirAj kahate hai.n, mai.n AtmAme.n jA rahA hU.N. mai.n dIkShA letA hU.N. usame.n sab padhAranA. pa.nch parameShThI bhagava.nto.n mai.n Ap sabako nima.ntraN detA hU.N. mai.n puruShArtha karu.N usame.n mere sAth rahanA. aisI shubhabhAvanA AtI hai. parantu vItarAg dashAkI pariNati-se mujhe dharma hotA hai, aisI mAnyatA hai. parantu bhAvanA aisI AtI hai. unakI lInatA, unakI shraddhAkI pariNati to visheSh hai, munirAjakI. samyagdarshan hai aur svAnubhUtikI dashA kShaN-kShaName.n a.ntarmuhUrtame.n lIn hote hai.n aur a.ntarmuhUrtame.n bAhar Ate hai.n. to bhI shubhabhAvanA aisI hotI hai.

mumukShuH- sarvaj~nakI sthApanA kI hai. jainakulame.n janma liyA isaliye sarvako mAne binA bhI nahI.n chalatA hai. parantu sarvaj~nako kaise biThAnA, vahI khyAlame.n nahI.n AtA hai. Apane to dekhe hai.n, to kuCh..?

samAdhAnaH- svaya.nko nakkI karanA chAhiye. sarvaj~na to jagatame.n hote hai.n. sarvaj~na svabhAv AtmAkA hai. pUrNa dashA jise pragaT ho, use sarvaj~na-pUrNa j~nAn pragaT hue binA nahI.n rahatA. pUrNa sAdhanA jo kare, j~nAnasvabhAvI AtmA hai. vah j~nAn aisA hai ki jo anantako jAne. j~nAname.n kahI.n apUrNatA nahI.n hotI ki itanA hI jAne aur itanA na jAne, aisA to nahI.n hotA.

yah j~nAyak svabhAv AtmA pUrNatA-se bharA hai. jise pUrNa sAdhanA pragaT huyI aur pUrNa kR^itakR^itya dashA ho, usakI j~nAnadashA pUrNa ho jAtI hai, usame.n koI alpatA nahI.n rahatI. ek samayame.n lokAlokako jAne, aisI sAdhanA karate-karate aisI vItarAg dashA pragaT ho, usame.n pUrNa dashA pragaT hotI hai ki jo sarvaj~natA (hai). ek samayame.n lokAlokako jAnate hai.n. svaya.nko jAnate hai.n aur anyako. ananta dravyako, ananta AtmAko, ananta pudagalako, unakA bhUt-vartamAn-bhaviShya sabako ek samayame.n sabako jAne, aisA hI j~nAnakA koI apUrva achi.ntya sAmarthya hai.

aisI sarvaj~natA jagatame.n hotI hai aur aisA sarvaj~na svabhAv jise pragaT huA hai, aise mahAvideh kShetrame.n tIrtha.nkar bhagava.nt, kevalI bhagavAn vicharate hai.n. abhI is pa.nchakAlame.n sarvaj~natA dekhaneme.n nahI.n AtI. bAkI mahAvideh kShetrame.n sAkShAt tIrtha.nkar bhagavAn, sIma.ndhar bhagavAn

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Adi bIs bhagavAn aur kevalI bhagava.nt sarvaj~napane vicharate hai.n. pUrNa j~nAn jise pragaT hotA hai. munidashAme.n jo pUrNa sAdhanA karate hai.n, unhe.n kevalaj~nAn pragaT hue binA nahI.n rahatA. jisakI sAdhanA pUrNa hotI hai, usakI j~nAnadashA bhI pUrNa ho jAtI hai.

AtmA jab vItarAg hotA hai, tab pUrNa svabhAv pragaT ho jAtA hai. ananta-ananta, jise koI maryAdA yA sImA nahI.n hotI. aisA amaryAdit j~nAn AtmAme.n-se (pragaT hotA hai) ki jo ek samayame.n sab jAn sakatA hai. svaya.nko jAnatA hai aur dUsaro.nko bhI jAnatA hai.

mumukShuH- samyagdarshan pragaT hone pUrva to sarvaj~nako oghe oghe mAnane jaisA lagatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- oghe oghe arthAt vichAr-se jAn sakatA hai. samyagdarshaname.n to vah yathArtha pratIt karatA hai ki mai.n sarvaj~na svabhAvI AtmA hI hU.N aur pUrNa svabhAv mere AtmAkA hai aur vah pragaT ho sakatA hai.

usake pahale ruchivAlA bhI vichAr karake samajh sakatA hai. oghe oghe nahI.n. jaise AtmA koI apUrva vastu hai. gurudevane aisA mArga batAyA. vichAr-se aisA nakkI karatA hai ki Atma svabhAv koI alag hai, samyagdarshan koI alag vastu hai, aise kevalaj~nAnako bhI vah vichAr-se nakkI kar sakatA hai. oghe oghe nahI.n, vichArase, yuktise, dalIlase nakkI kar sakatA hai ki sarvaj~natA jagatame.n hai.

mumukShuH- vichAr karane par aisA baiTh sakatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, baiTh sakatA hai. shAstrame.n dR^iShTAnta AtA hai ki sarvaj~na nahI.n hai, aisA tU (kis AdhAr-se kahatA hai)? nahI.n hai, aisA kaise nakkI kiyA? tujhe koI sarvaj~natA hai? sarvaj~na hai jagatame.n.

sarvaj~na svabhAv AtmAkA hai. jo j~nAnasvabhAvI AtmA hai, vah pUrNako kyo.n na jAne? jisakA svabhAv hI jAnanekA hai, usame.n nahI.n jAnanA AtI hI nahI.n. jo jAnanekA svabhAvavAn hai, vah pUrNa ArAdhanA kare to pUrNa jAnatA hai. usame.n nahI.n jAnatA hai, aisA AtA hI nahI.n. jo jAne vah pUrNa jAnatA hai. use sImA, maryAdA hotI nahI.n. sImA nahI.n hotI, svabhAv amaryAdi hai. jisakA jo svabhAv ho, vah svabhAv amaryAdit hotA hai.

mumukShuH- ... sarvaj~nakI pratIt ho aisA hai?

samAdhAnaH- darshan karane-se pratIt ho vah alag bAt hai. abhI sarvaj~nake darshan, sAkShAt darshan honA pa.nchakAlame.n mushkil hai. jinendra bhagavAnakI pratimAkA darshan hai. sAkShAt darshan, vah to ek pratItakA kAraN bane. parantu vah nahI.n ho us samay vichAr, ruchise, vichArase nakkI kar sakatA hai. bhagavAnake darshan, vah to ek pratItakA kAraN banatA hai.

vah puruShArtha kare to bhagavAnakA darshan to koI apUrva bAt hai. sAkShAt sarvaj~nadev

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bhagavAnake darshan ho (apUrva hai). jo vItarAg ho gaye hai.n. jo jagat-se bhinna, jinakI j~nAnadashA pragaT ho gayI. vItarAg dashA, jinakI mudrA alag ho jAy, jisakI .. alag ho jAy, jisakI vANI alag ho jAy, jo jagat-se alag hI hai.n. unake darshan to koI apUrva vastu hai. vah to pratItakA kAraN banatA hai. vItarAg dashA, jo a.ntar AtmAme.n pariNamatI hai, jinhe.n bAhar dekhanekA kuCh nahI.n hai. jinakI mudrA alag, jinakI vANI abhed OM dhvani nikalatI hai. jinakI chAl alag ho jAtI hai. sabakuCh alaga. bhagavAn jagat-se nyAre ho jAte hai.n.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- rAg ho isaliye vichAr Aye. jo bananA hotA hai, vahA.N koI upAy nahI.n hai. jo bananA hotA hai vah banatA hai. aisA ho ki aisA kiyA hotA to? ... parantu AyuShya us prakAr pUrNa honevAlA thA. usame.n kisIkA upAy kuCh kAm nahI.n AtA. koI chAhe jo kare. AyuShya ho to kisI bhI prakAr-se bach jAtA hai aur yadi na ho to kisIkI hoshiyArI kahI.n kAm nahI.n AtI.

mumukShuH- yahA.N Akar bahut samAdhAn ho gayA.

samAdhAnaH- (samAdhAn) kiye binA ChUTakArA nahI.n hai. gurudevane kahA hai vahI mArga grahaN karanA. gurudevane jo upadesh diyA hai, vahI grahaN karane jaisA hai. gurudevane jo upadeshakI jamAvaT kI hai, vah yAd karane jaisA hai.

samAdhAnaH- ... ye jainadharma, jinendra bhagavAnake .... isase to rAjapadavI nahI.n hotI to achChA thA. .... bhagavAnakA stotra AtA hai (usame.n AtA hai ki) jainadharmake binA mai.n jainadharma vihIn... jainadharma vihIn merA jIvan nahI.n hotA. dharma to mere hR^idayame.n ho. dharma binAkA jIvan to ... jinendra dev, guru aur shAstrakI bhakti, bhagavAnake utsav, guruke utsav, shAstrakA svAdhyAy, vahI jIvanakA kartavya hai. aur andar AtmA, AtmAkA raTan, adhyAtmakI bAt, AtmAkI bAte.n, aisI apUrva bAt, usakA smaraNa. vahI jIvanakA kartavya hai. sachchA to vah hai.

bAkI sab bane, parantu vah sab bhUlane jaisA hai. achAnak bane isaliye lage, rAg ho utanA, parantu bhUlane jaisA hai. rAg ho isaliye lage. bhAIko, bahanako sabako lage, parantu badalane jaisA hai. shAnti rakhane jaisA hai.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- .. use koI parichay nahI.n hai, isaliye andar samAdhAn karanekI shakti nahI.n hotI. gurukA Ashray aur devakA Ashray to baDA Ashray hai. ... isaliye andar- se samAdhAn karanekA bal nahI.n AyA. ... kahA.N jAnA? vahA.N kahI.n sukh paDA hai?

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vah gati hI hai. kaun-sI gati milegI aur kahA.N jAnA hai? vahA.N sukh thoDA hI hai. .. shraddhA ho to andar samAdhAn rahe. AtmA jahA.N bhI jAy, vahA.N AtmA to shAshvat hI hai. karma jo hai, vah kahI.n bhI sAthame.n hI AnevAlA hai. dUsare bhavame.n jAy isaliye yahA.N jo karmakA uday AyA vah uday yahA.N pUrA ho jAyagA? karmakA uday to sAthame.n hI rahanevAlA hai. isaliye karmakA uday yahA.N bhoganA yA dUsare bhavame.n bhoganA, sab samAn hai. ataH yahA.N shAnti-se bhog lenA.

kahate hai.n na? bandha samay jIv chetIye, uday samay shA uchAT? jis samay tere pariNAmame.n bandha hotA hai, us vakta tU vichAr karanA ki yah pariNAm mujhe na ho. mujhe dev-guru-shAstrake pariNAm ho. us vakta tU vichAr karanA. parantu jab karmakA uday AtA hai, jab bAharame.n usakA sa.nyog Ave, pheraphAr ho pratikUlatAkA, tab tU badal nahI.n sakatA. tab to shAnti aur samAdhAnake alAvA koI upAy nahI.n hai. ab-se mujhe aise pariNAm na ho usakA dhyAn rakha. bAkI uday Aneke bAd hAthame.n kuCh nahI.n rahatA.

aisA jIvan honA chAhiye ki dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti eva.n ArAdhanA, AtmAkI ArAdhanA kaise ho, usake sAtha. AtmAkI ArAdhanA. gurudevane, shAstrame.n jo kahA, use ArAdhanA kahate hai.n. aisA jIvan honA chAhiye. is pa.nchamakAlame.n aise guru mile, aisA mArga mile, aisA samajhanA (mile), AtmAkI bAt koI samajhatA nahI.n thA, AtmAkI bAt gurudevane samajhAyI. gurudevane bhagavAnakI pahachAn karavAyI. bhagavAnakA svarUp vItarAg hotA hai Adi sab gurudevane (samajhayA). puNyake kAraN aisA yog milA. usame.n svaya.nko apanI Atma ArAdhanA karane jaisI hai.