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samAdhAnaH- ... ananta kAl-se bAhya kriyAme.n sab mAn baiThA hai, parantu bAharame.n- se, koI vibhAvame.n-se vah svabhAv nahI.n AtA hai. parantu svabhAvame.n-se svabhAv AtA hai. isaliye usakA bhedaj~nAn kare ki vibhAvabhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai, mai.n usase bhinna hU.N. aisI a.ntarame.n bhinna shraddhA-pratIti kare, usakA j~nAn kare aur us rUp pariNati kare to pragaT ho.

use karaneke liye usakI lagan, usakI mahimA, sab vahI karanekA hai. us jAtakA vichAr, vA.nchan, vah jabatak na ho tabatak shAstrakA abhyAs kare, vA.nchan kare, laganI, mahimA kare. gurudevane kahA hai usI mArga par jAnA hai. usakI apUrvatA laganI chAhiye, a.ntarame.n usakI mahimA laganI chAhiye. ye sab bAhar kuCh apUrva nahI.n hai. ananta kalame.n sab kiyA, parantu ek AtmAkA svarUp nahI.n jAnA hai. bAharame.n use sab apUrvatA lagI, bAharakI apUrvatA vah apUrvatA nahI.n hai. a.ntarakI apUrva vastu a.ntarame.n hai. bAharame.n.n kuCh navInatA hai hI nahI.n. bAharakI jo mahimA lagatI hai, vah ChUTakar a.ntarakI mahimA honI chAhiye.

..svabhAvame.n-se pragaT hotA hai, chAritra apaneme.n-se pragaT hotA hai, sab apaneme.n- se hI pragaT hotA hai. suvarName.n-se suuvarNake hI gahane hote hai.n, holeme.n-se lohekA hotA hai. vaise svabhAvame.n-se hI svabhAv pragaT hotA hai. use bAharame.n dev-guru-shAstra nimitta hote hai.n. parantu upAdAn svaya.nko taiyAr karanA hai. ananta kAlame.n jIvane dharma sunA nahI.n hai aur sunAnavAle jinendra dev, guru mile aur yadi apUrvatA lage to a.ntarame.n use deshanAlabdhi hotI hai. aisA nimitta-upAdAkA sambandha hai. parantu karanekA svaya.nko hai. karanA svaya.n, a.ntarame.n svaya.nko puruShArtha karanA hai.

mumukShuH- andar-se use jij~nAsA jAgR^it honI chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- andar svaya.nko laganA chAhiye ki mujhe karanA hI hai. bhavakA abhAv kaise ho? aisA svaya.nko laganA chAhiye to ho. use bAharame.n kahI.n sukh lage nahI.n, shAnti lage nahI.n, shAnti andarame.n-se kaise pragaT ho? usakI jij~nAsA jAganI chAhiye.

mahimA karanI, laganI karanI, vichAr karanA, vA.nchan karanA, shAstra abhyAs (karanA),

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usakA abhyAs karanA. bhedaj~nAn kaise ho, usakA abhyAs karanA. pahale bhedaj~nAnakA abhyAs (karanA). andar ruchi laganI chAhiye. ruchi lage to vah abhyAs kare. svaya.nko vah karanA hai. usakI ruchi laganI chAhiye. a.ntarame.n-se yathArtha pariNati to bAdame.n hotI hai, pahale usakA abhyAs kare. vah nahI.n ho tabataka.

samAdhAnaH- .. bhedaj~nAn karaneke liye utanI laganI, utanI mahimA, shrutakA vA.nchan, vichAr sab hotA hai. taiyArI ho to ho. bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati ho to svAnubhUti ho. taiyArI karanI.

ananta kAlame.n bAharakA sab bahut kiyA hai, ek a.ntarame.n dR^iShTi karake AtmAkA pahichAnanA vah karanA hai. kriyAe.N kI, shubhabhAv kiye, sab kiyA, devalok milA, sab milA parantu bhavakA abhAv nahI.n huA. bhavakA abhAv honekA mArga gurudevane batAyA hai. muktikA mArga a.ntarame.n hai. gurudevane koI apUrva mArga batAyA hai. dR^iShTi kare to mAlUm paDe aisA hai. gurudevane chAro.n pahalUo.n-se samajhAyA hai. AtmAkA dravya-guN-paryAy kyA? vibhAv kyA? pudagal kyA? sab batAyA hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAnIke binA akele to kuCh samajhame.n AtA nahI.n.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevane bahut samajhAyA hai. usakA mUl Ashay grahaN kar lenA, gurudevane kyA kahA hai, vaha. usake liye satsa.ng aur svaya.nko jahA.N-se samajhame.n Aye, gurudev virAjate the vah bAt alag thI, parantu gurudevane jo samajhAyA hai usakA Ashay grahaN karanA. mUl prayojanabhUt tattvako grahaN karanA. apane dravya-guN-paryAy, chaitanyake chaitanyame.n. paradravyake paradravyame.n hai. vah samajhanA.

jo bhagavAnako, guruko pahachAne vah svaya.nko pahachAnatA hai. aisA sambandha hai. gurune kyA kiyA? gurudev kyA kahate the? aise yathArthapane jAne to apane svarUpako jAne. aisA sambandha hai. isaliye mai.n kaun hU.N? jo svaya.nko pahichAne vah dev-guruko pahichAne aur dev-guruko pahichAne vah svaya.nko pahichAnatA hai. isaliye chaitanyakA dravya, chaitanya vastu kyA? usake guN kyA? usakI paryAy kyA? usakI pariNati kaisI (hotI hai)? a.ntarame.n kaisA AtmA hai? usakA vichAr kare. jo gurudevane kahA us mArga par, Ashay grahaN karake vah vichAr kare. vah na ho tabatak usakA bAra.nbAr abhyAs kare.

mumukShuH- ...

samAdhAnaH- manuShya jIvaname.n ye kuCh navIn karanA hai, ye kuCh navIn nahI.n hai. ananta kAl aise hI vyatIt ho gayA, aise bhav ananta hue. usame.n is bhavame.n pa.nchamakAlame.n gurudev mile. is kAlame.n aisI vANI sunAnevAle, aisA mArga samajhanevAle milanA durlabh hai. isaliye AtmA hI sarvasva hai, us taraphakA puruShArtha aur khaTak honI chAhiye.

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mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, mai.n chaitanya hU.N, j~nAtA hU.N aisI bhedaj~nAnakI pariNatikA abhyAs karanA. mUl vastu yah hai. ekatvabuddhiko toDanA. ekatva toDakar svarUpakA ekatva kare. chaitanyame.n ekatva, parase vibhakta hU.N, usakA abhyAs karanA. sUkShma rUpase bahut samajhAyA hai, karanekA svaya.nko ho. ... AtmA hai. bAharame.n kuCh anupamatA hai hI nahI.n, anupamasvarUp AtmA hai. usIme.n- se pragaT ho aisA hai.

samAdhAnaH- .. anuyAyI aur shiShyome.n kuCh pharka nahI.n hai. gurudevake har gA.Nvame.n shiShya hai.n. yahA.N bhI hai, sab gurudevake shiShya hI hai.n. (gurudev) alaukik puruSh the, mahApuruSha. gurudev jaisA to koI hai hI nahI.n. gurudev to koI adabhut vyakti is pa.nchamakAlame.n hue. gurudevakI vANI bahut logo.nne grahaN kI hai.

... tIrtha.nkaradevako jo samavasaraNakI rachanA hotI hai, bhagavAnakI divyadhvani ChUTe, usakA atishay, unakI vANI, samavasaraName.n kitane hI jIv (hote hai.n), chaturvidh sa.ngh vANI sunate hai.n. tIrtha.nkar bhagavAnakA atishay alag hI hotA hai. unake pratAp-se anek munivR^i.nd hote hai.n. to bhI koI muni, tIrtha.nkarakI tulanAme.n unake jaisA atishay kisIkA nahI.n hotA. usame.n aisA kahe ki tIrtha.nkarake bAd kaun? tIrtha.nkar tIrtha.nkar hI hote hai.n, unake jaisA koI nahI.n hotA. tIrtha.nkarake bAd kisakI sthApanA karanI, aisA hotA hI nahI.n. tIrtha.nkarake bAd koI hotA hI nahI.n. munio.nkA samUh hotA hai, parantu tIrtha.nkar jaisI vANI kisIkI nahI.n hotI.

.. unakI koI sthApanA nahI.n hotI. unakI dhvani ChUTe, parantu tIrtha.nkarakA atishay to tIrtha.nkarako hI hotA hai. unake bAd kaun? aisI koI sthApanA nahI.n hotI ki tIrtha.nkarake bAd kisako sthApanA. muni Adi hote hai.n, unakI sthApanA nahI.n hotI. kyo.nki tIrtha.nkar jaisA koI hotA hI nahI.n.

mumukShuH- gaNadhar to hote hai.n na.

samAdhAnaH- tIrtha.nkar jaisA koI hotA hI nahI.n. vah sab to Chadmastha hote hai.n. tIrtha.nkar jaisA koI hotA hI nahI.n. unake bAd kaun? aisA kuCh hotA hI nahI.n. vah to jinho.nne vANI grahaN kI, to aise hI mArga chalatA hai. vANI grahaN kI aur AtmAkI sAdhanA karanevAle bahut jIv hote hai.n. AtmAkI sAdhanA kare usIme.n mArga chalatA hai. aise sAdhak jIv bahut hote hai.n.

mumukShuH- siddha hokar unake jaisA ban sakate hai.n, parantu bAhar atishayame.n koI samAnatA nahI.n hotI.

samAdhAnaH- atishayame.n samAn ho hI nahI.n sakatA. unake bAd unake jaisA koI hotA hI nahI.n. sAdhanA karanevAle bahut mile.nge, parantu unake jaisA koI nahI.n milatA.

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mumukShuH- gurudevakA hI mArga chal rahA hai.

samAdhAnaH- munio.n-se, unakI sAdhanA-se sab chale. parantu unake jaisI vANI kisIkI nahI.n hotI.

mumukShuH- ... tIrtha.nkarakA thA, to unakI vANIme.n aisI sAtishayatA thI yA unako sunanevAlo.nme.n bhI bahut mArgako pravartAnevAle unake pIChe (hote hai.n)?

samAdhAnaH- unakI vANIme.n aisA atishay thA. kuCh taiyAr hote hai.n, AtmAmee.n taiyAr ho jAte hai.n. unakA atishay aisA thA. anek jIv jAgR^it ho jAy, AtmAme.n. usakA puNyakA mel nahI.n hotA. .. parantu bhagavAn jaisI vANIkA atishay aur vaisI jo rachanA hotI hai, vah nahI.n hotA. vItarAgI vANI (hotI hai), vANIme.n vItarAgatA barasatI hai.

mumukShuH- kevalaj~nAn prApta kar le vah alag bAt hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, kevalaj~nAn prApta kar le, parantu bAharakA sab vaisA hI ho aisA nahI.n. usake sAth kisIkA mel nahI.n hotA.

AchAryake bAd AchArya, aise sthApanA ho sakatI hai. bhagavAnake sAth kisIkI sthApanA nahI.n ho sakatI. gurudev tIrtha.nkar jaise vartamAnakAlama.ne.n hue, vah dravya hI aisA thA.

mumukShuH- tIrtha.nkarakA dravya aur vaisA hI yoga.

samAdhAnaH- tIrtha.nkarakA dravya thA. AchAryake bAd AchArya hote hai.n, munike bAd muni hote hai.n. aisA hotA hai. .. vaisA atishay yA vR^i.ndakA vR^i.nd taiyAr ho, aisA nahI.n hotA. gurudev-se sab samUh taiyAr huA, aisA sab nahI.n ho sakatA.

samAdhAnaH- vikalpa rahit jo Ananda Ave, vah Ananda aur vikalpa rahit Ananda, andar rAg ChUTakar jo Ananda Ave, us Anandame.n pharka hotA hai.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- vah to a.ntarmuhUrtakI hI sthiti hotI hai. .. phir to dashA to svaya.n adhik puruShArtha kare to hotI hai. puruShArtha kare. abhI dravya aur paryAyakA mel samajhanA chAhiye ki dravya aur paryAy kyA hai.

mumukShuH- pariNAmI AtmA aur apariNAmI.

samAdhAnaH- pariNAmI hai. kis apekShA-se pariNAmI hai? kis apekShA-se nahI.n hai. vah sab apekShA samajhakar usakA mel karanA chAhiye. vikalpa-se rahit AtmA hai. AtmAme.n hai hI nahI.n aisA nakkI kiyA, parantu usakI gauNatAme.n dekhe to vikalpa hai. parantu vikalpa mUl svarUpame.n nahI.n hai.

jaise sphaTik maNi hai vah svabhAv-se nirmal hai. nirmal hai, parantu lAl-pIle phUlakA

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sa.nyog ho to vah lAl dikhatA hai. parantu vah lAl bAhar-se nahI.n AyA hai, parantu sphaTik svaya.n pariNamit huA hai.

vaise jIv svaya.n pariNamatA hai. kuCh nahI.n hai arthAt mAtra bhrAnti hI hai aur aj~nAn hai, vah apekShA-se barAbar hai. parantu dUsarI apekShA-se dekhe to use anAdi kAlase vedan hotA hai, rAgakA, duHkhakA vedan kisako hotA hai? mujhe duHkh-se ChUTanA hai, yah mujhe duHkh hotA hai, mujhe AkulatA hotI hai. vah vedan andarame.n hotA hai. to vah vedan ek paryAyame.n hai, mUl vastume.n nahI.n hai. vedan paryAyame.n hai, vastume.n to nahI.n hai. parantu vastume.n nahI.n hai, aisA nakkI kiyA. phir bhI bAhar usake vedaname.n amuk khaDA rahatA hai. isaliye vah shraddhA barAbar karake, bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA aisI hI rahanI chAhiye ki kShaN- kShaName.n, kShaN-kShaName.n jaise vikalpakI dhArA chalatI hai, utanI hI usake sAmane dhArA chalanI chAhiye. ... andarase chalanI chAhiye.

j~nAyakadhArA aisI chale to usame.n-se svAnubhUti ho. to usakI dashA chAlU ho. svAnubhUti nahI.n ho to usakI dashA chAlU nahI.n hotI. usakI dhArA chalanI chAhiye. andar-se aisI bhAvanA kare ki mai.n bhinna, mereme.n kuCh nahI.n hai, mai.n to bhagavAn jaisA hU.N. andar aisI bhAvanA, vairAgya ho jAya. parantu us jAtakA vedan hokar use svAnubhUti honI chAhiye. aur usakI dhArA andarame.n (chalanI chAhiye). bAharame.n kuCh bhI kAm kare to kShaN- kShaName.n (chalanI chAhiye). phir bhUl jAy aur yAd kare, bhUl jAy aur yAd kare aise nahI.n, parantu use andar dhArA hI chalanI chAhiye. dhArA chale aur svAnubhUti bAr-bAr ho to use vikalpa ChUTakar Ananda Aye. vikalpa ChUTe binA Ananda nahI.n hotA.

mumukShuH- vikalpa ChUTe nahI.n to aisA apUrva Ananda pragaT hI nahI.n hotA.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, to apUrva Ananda pragaT hI nahI.n ho.

mumukShuH- mujhe to dhruv jaisA nishchay hai. bas, ..

samAdhAnaH- dhruv, achal... dhruv bhI sirpha dhruv nahI.n hai, parantu j~nAyak dhruv hai. j~nAyakatAse bharA huA dhruv hai. aisA dhruvakA nishchay barAbar, phir paryAyame.n kyA hai? vah svaya.n nakkI karanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- mai.n kahatI hU.N, aisA hI nishchay hai ki AtmA prApta karake rahU.NgI. pUrNa vItarAg honA, us prakArakA .. kabhI ChUTe nahI.n aisA.

samAdhAnaH- vah to achChI bAt hai. svaya.n jyAdA Age baDhanA. jyAdA Age baDhanA bAkI rahatA hai.

mumukShuH- Age jAnA hai, isIliye kis prakAr... mumukShuH- vah kahatI hai, pUrNapane pragaT ho..

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samAdhAnaH- vah to kevalaj~nAn huA. muumukShuH- aisA hai ki honA hI hai. samAdhAnaH- honA hai, vah pUrNa kevalaj~nAn hai aur abhI to dravyadR^iShTi kar sakatA hai, j~nAyakakI dhArA kar sakatA hai. utanA kar sakatA hai. aur svAnubhUti kar sakatA hai. jyAdA to andar sahaj dashA ho to hotA hai.

mumukShuH- Apako khyAl nahI.n A sakatA?

samAdhAnaH- Apake parichay-se (aisA lagatA hai ki) abhI Apako Age baDhanekI jarUrat hai.

mumukShuH- hA.N, vah barAbara. parantu svAnubhUti huyI hai yA nahI.n, aisA khyAlame.n Aye ki nahI.n?

samAdhAnaH- ApakA Ap nakkI kar sakate ho. mai.n kaise kahU.N?

mumukShuH- apane-se Upar koI ho aur apaneko kahe to kitanA pharka paDatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- ApakA pahalekA jIvan, bAdakA jIvan mujhe kuCh mAlUm nahI.n hai. mai.n aise kaise kah sakU.N? ye brahmachArI bahane yahA.N hameshA parichayame.n rahatI hai to mai.n jAn sakatI hU.N ki isame.n kyA pharka hai. Age baDho, itanA kahU.N. Age baDhaneme.n koI dikkat nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- Age baDhaneme.n to koI dikkat nahI.n hai. dravya-paryAyakA mel karanA, usame.n koI dikkat nahI.n hai. dravyame.n nahI.n hai, paryAyame.n hai. paryAy kaise (pragaT ho), usame.n svaya.n visheSh Age baDhe. usakA ... j~nAyakakI dhArA kaise chAlU ho? bAra.nbAr vah karate rahanA. j~nAyakakI dhArA chale. ... gaI to vApas kaise AyI? Akhir tak puruShArtha to karanA hI rahatA hai. puruShArtha ChUT jAy to vahI dashA hotI hai. puruShArtha to Akhir tak karanA rahatA hai. isaliye puruShArtha karate rahanA.

Apako lage ki mujhe hai. parantu mai.n kaise kah sakU.N? Apako puruShArtha karate rahanA. ho gayA ho to achChI bAt hai, nahI.n huA ho to puruShArtha karanA. ... mai.n kaise kah sakU.N?

mumukShuH- mai.n kisIko pUChatI nahI.n. Ap par mujhe shraddhA hai.

samAdhAnaH- mAno ki ho gayA hai, to achChI bAt hai. nahI.n huA ho to puruShArtha jyAdA karanA. bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT karake svAnubhUti (pragaT karanI). ab vah upasham chalA gayA to phir-se pragaT karanA to rahatA hI hai. abhI pUrNatAme.n to der hai. abhI to samyagdarshanakI dashAko hI chAlU rakhanekI jarUrat hai. samyagdarshanakI dashA hI chAlU rakhanI

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mushkil hai. ho jAy phir use chAlU rakhanI mushkil hai.

... dikhatA nahI.n, paryAyame.n dekhe to dikhatA hai. un dono.nkA mel karake us prakArakA puruShArtha karanA. us tarah puruShArthakI dhArA pragaT karanI. mArga nikAlanA vah apane hAthakI bAt hai. .. puruShArtha-se hotA hai.

mumukShuH- ...

samAdhAnaH- paripUrNa hU.N. parantu vibhAv anAdikA hai, usakA barAbar j~nAn karake Age jAy to kahI.n bhUl nahI.n paDatI. usakA yathArtha j~nAn karanA hai. svaya.n jAnatA hai ki ye vibhAv hai. vibhAvakA j~nAn rahanA chAhiye ki ye ek vikalpakI dhArA bhale hI mujhame.n nahI.n hai, parantu ye sab vikalpa khaDe hai.n. gharakA, bAharakA, sab vikalpa khaDe hai.n. vikalpa hai, .. usame.n-se vikalpa utpanna hote hai.n. isaliye vikalpa to hai, vibhAv to khaDA hai. isaliye usakA use j~nAn vartatA hai. ... isaliye j~nAyakakI ugratA ho to vah ChUTe.

pahale to shraddhA aur pratItame.n Aye. svAnubhUti to ho, parantu usake bAd to kitanI ugratA ho tab mUlame.nse ChUTatA hai. kevalaj~nAn, munidashA vah to a.ntarmuhUrtakA upayog ki jo ek samayakA upayog ho to ekadam ho. abhI to vah svAnubhUti tak pahu.NchatA hai. bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT karanI hai.

mumukShuH- mereme.n rAgakA uday hI nahI.n hotA hai, j~nAnakA uday hotA hai. samAdhAnaH- j~nAnakA uday hotA hai, barAbar hai. rAgakA uday hai hI nahI.n vah dravyadR^iShTi-se barAbar hai. paryAyame.n hai usakA j~nAn karanA. usakI mahimA Aye vah barAbar hai ki rAgakA uday nahI.n hai, j~nAnakA uday ho rahA hai. usakI mahimA Aye, us jAtakI bhAvanA Aye, us jAtakA vairAgya ho, parantu usakA j~nAn to honA chAhiye. to puruShArtha Age baDhe. nahI.n to puruShArtha Age nahI.n baDhe. mujhame.n kuCh hai hI nahI.n, aisI mahimA karatA rahe, puruShArtha Age nahI.n baDhatA. aisA j~nAn kare to puruShArtha Age nahI.n baDhatA. abhI itanA bAkI hai, use j~nAname.n na rakhe to puruShArtha Age nahI.n baDh sakatA. ... mereme.n kuCh nahI.n hai, mai.n to j~nAyak hU.N. kuCh hai hI nahI.n to puruShArtha kaise Age baDhe?