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kundakundAchAryake viShayame.n mujhe jyAdA kuCh mAlUm nahI.n thA, vah bhI sab aise hI AyA thA. thoDA mAlUm thA ki mahAvidehakShetrame.n (gaye the), usake bAreme.n bhI kuCh jyAdA mAlUm nahI.n thA. prAra.nbhame.n (sa.nvat) 1993-94ke varShame.n kuCh jyAdA mAlUm nahI.n thA. jyAdA to bAdame.n mAlUm huA. kuCh mAlUm nahI.n thA. parantu yah sab bAt gurudev sa.npradAyame.n the us vakta bAharame.n kuCh bolate bhI nahI.n the. phir sa.npradAy (sa.nvat) 1991me.n ChoDaneke bAd turanta kuCh nahI.n bole. unho.nne us vakta svaya.nne koI mel nahI.n kiyA. rAjakumArakA svapna AyA, aisA bolate bhI nahI.n the. lekin unako chandramAke jyAdA svapna Ate the to unako aisA lagatA thA ki me.n chandrame.nse AyA hU.N? unako chandrake bahut svapna Ate the. lekin yah kahA isaliye unho.nne vah svapna yAd kiyA ki mujhe rAjakumArakA svapna AyA hai ki mai.n rAjakumAr hU.N. lekin is bharatakShetrakA rAjakumAr nahI.n. sharIr baDA thA, aisA bolate the. mai.nne kahA na. dopaharako kahA, sharIr alag prakArakA thA. abhIkA sharIr nahI.n, aisA ve bolate the. is kShetrakA sharIr nahI.n, aisA bolate the. jharIke vastra, paghaDI bA.NdhI thI, aisA svapna AyA thA unako. jharIkA aisA, bolate the. kisIne nahI.n sunA thA, mai.nne to kahA.N sunA hogA? dUsare kisI bhaktane bhI nahI.n sunA thA.

mumukShuH- unho.nne kahA hI nahI.n thA. uttaraH- kahA hI nahI.n thA, isaliye kaise (mAlUm paDe)? .... chandra, chandra, chandra, chaturthIkA, pa.nchamIkA chandramA hI dikhatA thA. (aisA svapna AtA thA ki), pUre AkAshame.n pATiye. vah to unhe.n bahut AtA thA. shAstrakA pATiyA. lekin yah chandrake bahut (Ate the). lekin vah to prabhAvanA sambandhit chandrake svapna Ate the. chandrake svapna bahut Ate the. chandramA jyotiShI devame.nse AyA hU.N? aisA ho jAtA thA. chandramAke svapna bahut Ate the.

mai.n tIrtha.nkarakA jIv hI hU.N, tIrtha.nkar hU.N, aisA unako a.ntarame.nse AtA hI rahatA thA. kisIko mAlUm nahI.n thA unako aisA AtA hai. (trilokInAthane) TIkA lagAyA, ab tujhe kyA chAhiye? aisA bolate the. "lahi bhavyatA moTu.n mAn'. trilokInAthane TIkA lagAyA, aur kyA chAhiye? pravachaname.n alag prakArase bAt Aye, isaliye pakaDame.n A

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jAye ki isame.n aisA kahanA chAhate hai.n. koI bAtake bIchame.n bole, isaliye khyAl A jAye. mukhamudrA par jo ullAs ho, vah dikhalAI detA hai na? tIrtha.nkar hU.N, aisA mujhe AtA thA. itanA. ... kuCh nahI.n pUChA. dUsarA to kuCh pUChe. mujhe lagatA thA, gurudevako batAnA koI AsAn bAt nahI.n thI. gurudevane sab shAstrake rahasya prakAshit kiye. shvetA.nbar shAstra eva.n diga.nbar shAstra (paDhaneke bAd), shvetA.nbarame.n sab jUThA hai, sab nakkI kiyA. itanI satyake parIkShak, unake Age kahanA vah koI (AsAn nahI.n thA). usame.n bhI bhAIo.n bhI gurudevake Age kuCh kahaneme.n Darate hai.n, to bahano.nko bolanA vah to kitanI baDI bAt hai. vah koI AsAn bAt nahI.n hai.

koI bhAIo.nko kuCh bAt karanI ho to gurudev kuCh pUChe to bolanA kuCh hotA thA, aur bol dete aur kuCh, aisA bhI kisIko ho jAtA thA. phir to gurudev dhIre-dhIre kam... pahale to sa.npradAy ChoDA thA, kisIke sAmane bhI nahI.n dekhate the. shuruAtame.n to aisA thA. gurudevako kahanA aur ve aise hI mAn le, aisI koI AsAn bAt nahI.n thI. apane bhAv dekhe, apanA hR^iday dekhe, kahA.Nse bolate hai.n, kitanI gaharAIse bolate hai.n, (bhAv) kaisA hai, sab dekhate. ve to parIkShak the. unho.nne parIkShAke liye pUChA thA. ... parIkShAke lie pUChate the. usame.nse phir yah pUChA. .. khaDe rahaneme.n jisakA hR^iday sachchA hai, vahI khaDA rah sakatA hai, anya koI khaDA nahI.n rah sakatA, gurudevake prashnake Age. sIdhe prashna nahI.n pUChate the, dUsare prakArase pUChate the.

pahalA prashna kaisA thA? kAlakA thA. sIdhA nahI.n pUChate the. kisIko aisA lage ki gurudev aisA bolate hai.n, .... sIdhA pUChe. aisA kisIko ho jAye. koI AsAn bAt thI? kitanA vichAr karake nakkI karanevAle. koI bhAIo.nko kuCh kahanA ho to dikkat hotI hai, to phir yah sab a.ntarakI bAt gurudevake Age kahanI, vah to a.ntarakI kitanI dR^iDhatA ho to kah sakate hai.n. gurudevake Age kahanA koI AsAn bAt nahI.n thA. kisI-kisIko kahate the, koI-koI Ate the usako kahate the.

ve to shrutadharo.nkA parichay karane Aye the. dUsare sabake sAth charchA-prashna karane thoDe hI nA Aye the. bharatakShetrame.nse bhagavAnakI vANI sunane (Aye the). koI bAtachIt kare to bhI koI shrutadhar munike pAs unakI sha.nkAkA samAdhAn karane Aye the. dUsareke sAth bAtachIt kam karate the. isaliye kuCh mAlUm nahI.n thA.

aisA bhI kahate the, yah dravya tIrtha.nkarakA hai. aisA mujhe pahalese AyA thA ki yah dravya tIrtha.nkarakA hai. mujhe kuCh mAlUm nahI.n thA. mujhe to andarase AyA thA. aisA kuCh mAlUm nahI.n thA. mujhe to AtmAkA karaneme.n kyA satya aur kaise satya hai, yah nakkI karaneme.n merA jIvan thA. usame.n gurudev tIrtha.nkar hai (aisA kuCh sochA bhI nahI.n thA).

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mahApuruSh hai, AtmAkI bAte.n karate hai.n, svAnubhUtikA mArga batAte hai.n, aisA sab hotA hai. tIrtha.nkar hai.n, aisA sab vichAr karanekA kahA.N thA. ek to ChoTI umra thI, usame.n to satya kyA hai, yah nakkI karanA thA. usame.n satya kyA yah nakkI karaneme.n, AtmAkA karaneme.n (mai.n rahatI thI). gurudev mahApuruSh hai.n, aisA hotA hai. vas vakta tIrtha.nkar hai, tIrtha.nkar jaisA unakA kArya hai, aise vichArakA vahA.N kahA.N avakAsh thA? abhI to sab sAdhanAke kArya chalate the. yah sab to a.ntarase AyA hai, sahaj AyA hai.

gurudev tIrtha.nkar (dravya hai.n), isako unako svaya.nko Ashcharya lagatA thA. yah to a.ntarase AyA hai. aisA koI vichAr bhI nahI.n kiyA thA aur aisA mujhe lagatA thA, aisA bhI nahI.n hai. athavA gurudevane kahA ho, aisA bhI nahI.n hai. kuCh nahI.n hai. (kundakundAchAryadev) mahAvidehakShetrame.n gaye hai.n, yah sunA thA, yah sab sunA thA. lekin abhI vartamAname.n itanA prachalit hai ki is shAstrame.n AtA hai aur usame.n AtA hai, aisA nahI.n thA. kuCh kathA Adike bAreme.n mAlUm thA aur gurudev kahate hai.n ki mahAvideh kShetrame.n gaye hai.n. itanA mAlUm thA. lekin us prakArake vichAr AdikA koI avakAsh nahI.n thA. mai.n to shAstra paDhatI thI. shAstra samajhaneme.n dhyAn thA. isaprakArake vichAr nahI.n the. un vakta bhagavAnakA mandir nahI.n thA, kuCh nahI.n thA ki koI la.nge vichAr Aye, koI pUjA-bhaktike prasa.ng nahI.n the. bhakti kI yA aisA kuCh kiyA ki jisase yAd Aye athavA tIrtha.nkar bhagavAnakI sab sphuraNA ho, pUjA-bhakti kI ki ye tIrtha.nkar bhagavAn (hai.n), gurudev unakA jIv hai, to bhI vichAr Aye, aise bhI prasa.ng nahI.n the. mandir nahI.n thA, pUjA-bhaktike prasa.ng nahI.n the, kuCh nahI.n thA. mAtra shAstra paDhate the aur AtmAkA dhyAn karate the. dUsare koI prasa.ng nahI.n the. gurudevakA pravachan sunate the. gurudev shAstrake kyA artha karate hai.n? mAtra vahI dhyAn rahatA thA ki shAstrakA rahasya (kyA kholate hai.n)? shAstra to pahalI bAr paDhate the, gurudev usakA kyA artha karate hai.n? us arthame.n dhyAn hotA thA ki is pa.nktikA kyA artha kiyA aur is pa.nktikA kyA artha karate hai.n?

...koI utsav nahI.n the yA koI tIrtha.nkar bhagavAnakI bhakti karaneke prasa.ng the, shurUAtame.n kuCh nahI.n thA. sthAnakavAsI sa.npradAyame.nse nikale the to usaprakArakA kuCh thA hI nahI.n. bhagavAnakA samavasaraN hotA hai aur tIrtha.nkar bhagavAn hote hai.n, itanA mAlUm thA. bhagavAnakI vANI aur aisA sab mAlUm thA. bhagavAnake tIn gaDh aur aShTa bhUmi ityAdi kuCh mAlUm nahI.n thA. (sa.nvat) 1993-94kI sAlame.n kuCh mAlUm nahI.n thA. phir sab paDhA. phir 1997me.n bhagavAnakI pratiShThA huI. tab bhagavAnakI pUjA, bhakti Adike prasa.ng hue. 1998kI sAlame.n samavasaraName.n kundakundAchAryako virAjamanA kiye. vah sab bAdame.n huA. pahale kuCh nahI.n thA ki usake koI vichAr Aye.

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mahAvideh kShetrame.n gaye hai.n, itanA mAlUm thA. ... diga.nbarame.n kyA a.ntar hai, vah sab vichArame.n thI. shvetA.nbarame.n kahA.N bhUl hai, diga.nbar kyA kahatA hai, ChaH dravya hai, usame.n ye kAlako aupachArik dravya kahate hai.n, diga.nbarame.n ChaH dravya Ate hai.n, vah sab vichAr chalatA thA. shurUAtame.n to vah sab nyAyake vichAr chalate the. abhI to shvetA.nbar-diga.nbar (kA a.ntar vichAr chalatA thA). gurudevane abhI-abhI parivartan kiyA thA. usame.n gurudev kyA kahate hai.n aur kis prakArase yah sab pharka kahate hai.n? vastradhArIko mukti nahI.n hotI, aisA sab gurudev kahate hai.n, vah kis prakArase hai? vah sab gurudev spaShTa karake kahate the tab samajhame.n AtA thA. vah sab shurUAt thI. shvetA.nbar-diga.nbarame.n kyA pharka hai, munidashAme.n vastra ho to kevalaj~nAn kyo.n nahI.n hotA? aisI sab ulajhan shurUAtame.n kitanI hotI hai. vah sab chalatA thA, yah kuCh thA bhI nahI.n.

... aise sab dR^iShTAnta Ate the. aise sab dR^iShTAnta gurudev dete the. arthAt sab shurUAt thI. shvetA.nbar-diga.nbarakA gurudevane svaya.nne nakkI kiyA thA, vah sab bAhar AnekI shurUAt thI. yah sab bAhar nahI.n kahate the. samayasAr paDhate the, rAjakoTame.n, lekin shvetA.nbarake vastra aur yah diga.nbar, aisA kuCh nahI.n bolate the.

... sabake bIch vA.nchan kare, basa. gurudevane abhI-abhI sa.npradAy ChoDA thA. gurudevako koI bAt karanI ho to sa.npradAyakA bhay lage. aisA thA. isaliye samay khojakar ... lekin usame.n koI mahemAn A jAye. sab tarahakI dikkat thI. ... kabhI-kabhI bAhar bhI baiThate the.

mumukShuH- us or ChoTA kamarA hai, khiDakI hai vahA.N?

samAdhAnaH- vahA.N bhI kabhI-kabhI baiThate the. kabhI-kabhI us kamareme.n baiThe ho. sAmane dikhAI detA hai na? daravAjeme.n baiThe ho to sAmane dikhAI de. holakA barAmadA aur kamareke daravAjA, aise. kamarA hotA hai na? kamarekA daravAjA hotA hai na, sab dikhAI detA thA. gurudev pravachan dete hai.n, vahA.N bhI baiThe ho. pahale to likhA hotA hai. ...