Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 34.

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samAdhAnaH- .. AtmAkA mokShakA mArga jisako pragaT huA usakI vANI usako nimitta hotI hai.

mumukShuH- ...

samAdhAnaH- vah vANI nimitta nahI.n hotI.

mumukShuH- isaliye jenI-tenI pAse dharma sA.nbhaLavo te pAtratA nathI.

samAdhAnaH- jisakI jij~nAsA ho vah sachche guruko pahachAn letA hai. is gurukA upadesh mere AtmAkA kalyAN karegA. yadi sachchI jij~nAsA ho to apaneAp pahachAn letA hai. ..

mumukShuH- jo pratyakShame.n dikh rahA hai ki is upadesh denevAleko AtmAnubhUti nahI.n hai, to usake upadeshako nahI.n sunanA chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- vah to koI apekShAse bAt hai. apane nimitta hotA hai to sachche guru milate hai.n. jisako nahI.n milatA hai.... jij~nAsu, jisane guruke pAs sunA hai, apanI pAtratA pragaT huI hai, aisA koI

mumukShu-sachchA mumukShu ho to samajhaneke liye vah samajhatA hai, para.ntu usako guru nahI.n mAnatA. vah to samajhaneke liye samajhatA hai. sachchA guru nahI.n mAnanA. svAdhyAy karatA hai, sachchA guru nahI.n mAnanA. ... bAharame.n sab lAlach ho, use pAtratA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- usakA upadesh sunanA nahI.n.

samAdhAnaH- usakA upadesh... sachche guruse lAbh hotA hai. shAstrame.n AtA hai, sachche guruse lAbh hotA hai. aise guru nahI.n milate hai.n to sAdharmI ekadUsareke sAth charchA kare, svAdhyAy kare, vichAr kare, aisA to karate hI hai.n Apasame.n. .. pahachAnanA aur sharIrAdi bhinna hai use pahachAnanA. aisA kahanevAle guru kaun hai, vah ...

mumukShuH- ..

samAdhAnaH- ... yathArthame.n kaun hai vah samajhanA. vyavahArase vaktA, shrotA aisA chalatA hai?

mumukShuH- ... vahA.N-se lakShya ChUTatA nahI.n. svabhAvake prati lakShya hotA nahI.n.


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samAdhAnaH- puruShArtha karanese hotA hai. anAdikI ekatvabuddhi hai. sharIr so mai.n aur mai.n so sharIr hU.N, aisA abhyAs chalatA hai. us abhyAsako toDanA chAhiye. ... mai.n to bhinna j~nAyak hU.N, yah sharIr to jaD hai, kuCh jAnatA nahI.n. mai.n to bhinna chaitanyatattva mahimAva.nt padArtha anAdiananta (hU.N). bAra.nbAr usakA vichAr, vA.nchan, pratIt, dR^iDhatA karanA chAhiye. mai.n to ek j~nAyakatattva hU.N. mai.n to j~nAyakadev hU.N, yah sharIr to jaD hai. sharIr aur AtmA dono.n bhinna hai.n. anAdise bhinna hI hai. puruShArtha karanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- .. kabhI kiyA nahI.n hai to usakA svarUp samajhame.n AtA nahI.n.

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n kiyA hai to bhI apanA svabhAv hai isaliye ho sakatA hai. puruShArtha karake ananta (jIv) mokSha gaye hai.n aur ananta (jIvo.nko) bhedaj~nAn huA hai. AtmA hai to kar sakatA hai. apanI anAdikI bhUl chalI AtI hai isaliye pramAdake kAraNase nahI.n hotA hai.

gurudev kahate the, apanI bhUlase apaneko pahachAnA nahI.n. "nij nayananI ALase, nirakhyA na harine.' apane netrakI Alasake kAraN AtmAko svaya.n pahachAnatA nahI.n. chaitanyaprabhuko pahachAnatA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- apaneko pahachAnanekA Apane kahA, to apaneko pahachAnanekI kis tarahakI prakriyA apanAyI jAtI hai?

samAdhAnaH- apaneko pahachAnanekI kriyA-j~nAnasvabhAv hai vah sabako jAn letA hai. vah jAnatA hai. parako jAnaneke liye vah sab karatA hai, apaneko jAnanekA prayatna nahI.n karatA. jAnanekA prayatna karanA chAhiye. gurudevane bahut batAyA hai. shAstrame.n bhI AtA hai. pramAd karatA hai, ruchi nahI.n hai, jij~nAsA nahI.n hai, parame.n ekatvabuddhi hai, (parame.n) sukh mAnatA hai, parakI mahimA AtI hai, AtmAkI mahimA bhI nahI.n AtI. AtmAkI mahimA karanI chAhiye, AtmAkA svabhAv pahachAnanA chAhiye, usakA vichAr karanA chAhiye. bAra.nbAr usakI ruchi baDhAnI chAhiye. yah sab karanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- AtmA dikhatA nahI.n, mAtAjI! bAharakA sab dikhatA hai to bAharakI mahimA AtI hai.

samAdhAnaH- anAdise dR^iShTi bAhar hai isaliye bAharakA dikhatA hai. a.ntarame.n dR^iShTi dekhe to apaneAp dikhAI detA hai. dR^iShTi bAhar hI bAhar hai. dR^iShTiko svabhAvakI or le jAnI hai. AtmA aisA nahI.n hai ki dikhaneme.n nahI.n Aye. j~nAnasvabhAv kisako nahI.n jAne? sabako jAne. par jAnatA hai, svako nahI.n jAnatA hai.

svaparaprakAshak j~nAn hai. j~nAn to sabakA ananta hai. svaparaprakAshak hai to sabako jAnatA hai. puruShArtha nahI.n karatA hai to nahI.n jAnaneme.n AtA. anAdise parako jAnA, AtmAko


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jAnA nahI.n. AtmAko jAnanekA prayatna karanA chAhiye, to jAn sakatA hai. bhedaj~nAn karanA chAhiye. sharIr mai.n nahI.n, vibhAvasvabhAv merA nahI.n hai, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, aisA prayatna karanA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- pUjya mAtAjI! ham hindIbhAShI mumukShuo.nkA yah param saubhAgya hai ki ham pUjya gurudevashrIkI 97 ma.ngal janma jaya.nti mahotsav manAnekA pavitra avasar milA hai. yah ma.ngal mahotsav ham mumukShujIvo.nme.n AtmArthItA vikasAkar mokShamArgame.n lagAe, aisA ma.ngal AshIrvAd chAhate hai.n.

pUjya mAtAjI! pUjya gurudevashrI nishchayanayako sadA mukhya pharamAte the. aur Agamame.n kabhI nishchayako mukhya to kabhI vyavahArako mukhya darshAte hai.n, to dono.n bhinna-bhinna prakArake kathanake pIChe j~nAnI dharmAtmAo.nkA marma kyA hai, yah kR^ipA karake samajhAiye.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevane to bahut spaShTa kiyA hai, gurudevakA param upakAr hai. nishchayanay sadA... sAdhakajIvako dravya par dR^iShTi to nishchay sadA mukhya hI rahatA hai. sAdhakadashAme.n dravyadR^iShTi mukhya hI hotI hai. isaliye nishchayanayako gurudev mukhya kahate the. aur vastu svarUp aisA hai. jo gurudev kahate the vaisA hI hai. parantu jo shAstrame.n AtA hai ki kabhI vyavahAr mukhya aur kabhI nishchayakI bAt Aye to usame.n samajhAneke liye hotA hai. jIvo.nko jo anAdikA abhyAs hai, vibhAvakA abhyAs hai isaliye vyavahArakI bAharame.n sthUl dR^iShTi hai, samajh nahI.n sakate. isaliye samajhAneke lie vyavahArakI bAt karaneme.n Aye. lekin usame.n kahanekA Ashay-vastu aur muktikA mArga kyA hai, nishchay par dR^iShTi kar aisA kahanekA Ashay hotA hai. jo AtmArthI hai vah usame.nse Ashay samajh letA hai. jise AtmArthItA nahI.n hotI, vah mAtra vyavahArako pakaD letA hai.

AchAryakA Ashay to nishchayanay yAnI AtmAko grahaN karAnekA hI hotA hai. lekin jo samajhate nahI.n, vah mAtra vyavahAr grahaN kar lete haiai.n. AchAryakA kathan to vyavahArako ChoDakar AtmAko grahaN karAnekA hI Ashay hotA hai. sAdhakako nishchay mukhya aur vyavahAr gauN hotA hai. lekin use samajhAneke liye vyavahArase aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai ki "bhAShA anArya vinA samajhAvI shakAy na anAryane.' anAryako samajhA nahI.n sakate. usakI bhAShAme.n use samajhAneme.n AtA hai. shAstrame.n AtA hai ki AtmA shabda kahA. ab, AtmA kise kahate hai.n, isakA jise j~nAn nahI.n hai, vah samajh nahI.n sakatA. isaliye darshan, j~nAn, chAritrako prApta ho, hameshAke liye prApta ho, vah AtmA. aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai, tab use samajhame.n AtA hai. isaliye vyavahArase kathan karaneme.n AtA hai. use samajhAneke liye. samajhAnA hai AtmA, grahaN AtmA karAnA hai. lekin vyavahArakA kathan bIchame.n Aye binA nahI.n rahatA. isaliye vyavahArase kathan karaneme.n AtA hai. grahaN to


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ek AtmA hI karAnA hai. aur svAnubhUtikA mArga batAnA hai, vastukA svarUp batAnA hai.

isaliye nishchay dR^iShTime.n mukhya hotA hai. lekin dravya aur paryAy dono.nkA j~nAn karAnako aur samajhAneke liye vastu svarUp aur AtmAko grahaN karAneke liye vyavahArako bhI AchArya bIchame.n kahate hai.n, samajhAneke liye kahaneme.n AtA hai. vastu svarUp to AtmAko grahaN karAnekA hI hotA hai. nishchay sadA mukhya hI hotA hai.

abhed AtmAko grahaN karanA, usame.n guNabhed ho, paryAyabhed ho, usakA j~nAn karanA hotA hai. vah samajhe usame.n vyavahAr bIchame.n Aye binA nahI.n rahatA. lakShaNabhed, j~nAnakA lakShaN, lakShaNase AtmAko grahaN karanA, j~nAnasvabhAv AtmA, isaprakAr guN dvArA guNIko grahaN karAneme.n AtA hai. aisA vyavahAr bhI bIchame.n AtA hai. vah svaya.n Age baDhee usame.n bhI guNabhed, paryAyabhed bIchame.n Ate hai.n. isaliye kathaname.n bhI AchAryadev use samajhAneke liye, AtmAko grahaN karAneke liye bIchame.n Aye binA nahI.n rahatA. isaliye kabhI vyavahArakI bAt karate hai.n, kabhI nishchayakI bAt karate hai.n. Agamame.n AtA hai. lekin dR^iShTi to use sadAke liye mukhya rahatI hai. aur j~nAname.n dravya kise kahate hai.n, paryAy kise kahate hai.n, sAdhakadashA kise kahate hai.n, sAdhya kyA hai, grahaN kyA karanA hai aur bIchame.n sAdhakadashA kaisI hotI hai, yah sab bIchame.n AtA hai. isaliye AchAryadev sab bAtakA use j~nAn karAte hai.n. grahaN ek AtmAko karanA hai. vastukA svarUp aisA hI hai.

mumukShuH- dR^iShTime.n AtmA hI rahatA hai arthAt kyA? pUrA din vahI.n upayog rahatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- upayog vahA.N nahI.n rahatA. lekin usakI dR^iShTi vahA.N rahatI hai. upayogame.n j~nAname.n use sab jAnaneke vichAr Aye. guNabhed, paryAyabhed Adi sab jAnaneke liye AtA hai. upayog vahA.N nahI.n rahatA, lekin us par dR^iShTi, pariNati us prakArakI hotI hai. dravya par dR^iShTi sadAke liye hotI hai. mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, mai.n AtmA hU.N. apanA astitva- jo chaitanyakA astitva hai us usakI dR^iShTi sadAke liye hotI hai. mai.n j~nAyak, aisI j~nAyakakI pariNati (nira.ntar rahatI hai). yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai, guNabhed, paryAyabhed vAstavikarUpase mereme.n nahI.n hai. usakA svarUp hai, usake guN ananta hai, lekin usake bhed par usakI dR^iShTi nahI.n hai. dR^iShTi ek AtmA par hai. upayog nahI.n, lekin dR^iShTi hI us par tha.Nbh gaI hai.

shraddhA aur j~nAn, dono.n guN bhinna haiai.n. dR^iShTi us par tha.Nbh gaI hai. upayogame.n sab AtA hai. jAnaneme.n sab AtA hai. lekin dR^iShTi ek j~nAyak par hotI hai. us par dR^iShTi aisI sthir ho rahatI hai ki kahI.n bhI upayog jAye to bhI bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA to ChUTatI


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hI nahI.n. mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, aisA vikalpa nahI.n, parantu sahaj pariNati hI hotI hai. j~nAyakatA- j~nAyakatA, use sadAke liye j~nAyakatAkI pariNatI chAlU rahatI hai. svAnubhUtime.n ho to bhI j~nAyak par jo dR^iShTi hai vah ChUTatI nahI.n. guNabhed, paryAyabhed svAnubhUtime.n usake j~nAname.n Ate hai.n, usake vedaname.n AtA hai. guN, paryAy usake vedaname.n Ate hai.n, parantu dR^iShTi AtmA parase ChUTatI nahI.n. dR^iShTi sadAke liye us par hI tha.NbhI huI rahatI hai.

mumukShuH- dR^iShTime.n nishchayanay hI mukhya hai aur jAnaneme.n nishchay aur vyavahAr dono.n hote hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- dono.n hote hai.n. dR^iShTime.n ek dravya hI mukhya hotA hai aur jAnaneme.n guN, paryAy, dravya sab AtA hai. nishchayanay, vyavahAranay, nishchayakA svarUp, vyavahArakA svarUp jAnaneme.n sab AtA hai.

mumukShuH- ham aisA samajhe to usase AtmAkI tIkhI ruchi kaise ho? nishchayase dR^iShTi apekShAse aisA hai aur nishchay-vyavahAr j~nAname.n isaprakAr hote hai.n, usase AtmAkI ruchi kaise ho?

samAdhAnaH- jAnanese AtmAkA svarUp aisA hai, bAharame.n kahI.n nahI.n hai, yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai, merA svabhAv ek j~nAyak hI hai, yah sab AkUlatA hai, yah sab vibhAv hai, merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. mai.n chaitanya ek anAdiananta hU.N. use duHkh lage, bhavabhramaNakI thakAn lage aur a.ntarame.n ek AtmAme.n shAnti aur Ananda hai, aisI use pratIt ho, ruchi ho to us or ruchi hotI hai ki vastukA svarUp aisA hai. sab mereme.n hai, bAhar kuCh nahI.n hai. sabakuCh mereme.n hai, yah kaise grahaN ho, kaise pragaT ho? sab ananta. Ananda ananta, j~nAn ananta, aise ananta guN sab mereme.n bharA hai. bAharame.n kuCh nahI.n hai. aur us par-abhed chaitanya par dR^iShTi karanese, svaya.nkA astitva grahaN karanese yah pragaT hotA hai. isaprakAr nishchay-vyavahArako jAnanese svaya.nke chaitanya par dR^iShTi par jAye. jise jij~nAsA ho, is bhavabhramaNakI thakAn lagI ho, vibhAvase thak gayA ho, AkUlatA lagatI ho, use usame.nse upAy mil jAtA hai ki ek chaitanya par dR^iShTi karanese AtmAkA sukh aur Ananda pragaT hotA hai. svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai. yah nishchay hai, yah vyavahAr hai. usame.n sAdhakadashA bIchame.n AtI hai. usame.n sAdhya ek AtmAko grahaN karake bIchame.n yah sAdhakadashA hotI hai. isaprakAr nishchay-vyavahArakI sa.ndhiko jAne to use muktikA mArga milatA hai. use us or ruchi jAgR^it hotI hai ki bas, apUrva Ananda aur apUrva AshcharyakArI tattva yahI hai, isaliye use grahaN karane jaisA hai. isaprakAr grahaN ho, usakI ruchi ho, aisA sab hotA hai.

mumukShuH- usame.n sAth-sAth upakArI satpuruShakI mahimA isIme.n A jAtI hai?


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samAdhAnaH- hA.N, usame.n AtI hai. jise AtmAkA svarUp samajhanA hai, aise dev- guru-shAstra jo samajhAte hai.n, AtmAkA svarUp jo anAdise nahI.n samajhA hai, use samajhAnevAle aise satpuruSh-j~nAnI ke prati mahimA Aye binA nahI.n rahatI. kyo.nki jo AtmAkA svarUp samajhAye us par use mahimA AtI hai. kyo.nki anAdise jo mArga prApta nahI.n huA hai, vah jo samajhAye us par mahimA Aye binA rahatI hI nahI.n. AtmAkA svarUp aisA hai, ananta Anandase bharA apUrva anupam tattva hai, aisA mArga jo darshAte hai.n, aise guru par, dev par use mahimA Aye binA rahatI hI nahI.n. kyo.nki anAdikA anajAnA mArga, jo svaya.nko jij~nAsA hai, vah mArga gurudev batAye aur us bhUmikAme.n svaya.n khaDA hai, us bhUmikAme.n amuk prakArakI bhaktikI bhUmikAme.n khaDA ho to use mahimA Aye binA rahatI hI nahI.n.

jab tak svaya.nne AtmAko jAnA nahI.n, isaliye jo samajhAte hai.n us par bhakti Aye binA rahatI hI nahI.n. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA to samyagdarshan prApta kare to bhI usakI vah bhUmikA hai to dev-guru-shAstra par use bhakti Aye binA rahatI hI nahI.n. kyo.nki vItarAgadashA nahI.n hotI tabatak bIchame.n prashasta rAgakI bhUmikAme.n khaDA hai isaliye use Aye binA rahatA hI nahI.n. use vah rokate nahI.n, lekin bIchame.n Aye binA nahI.n rahatA.

muni ho to muniko bhI bIchame.n AtI hai. muni shAstra likhe to prAra.nbhame.n jinendra bhagavAnako namaskAr karate hai.n, siddha bhagavAnako namaskAr karate hai.n. munio.nko bhI Aye binA nahI.n rahatI. vah to bIchame.n AtA hI hai. to jisakI jij~nAsukI bhUmikA hai, jisane mArga jAnA nahI.n hai, use to Aye binA rahatI hI nahI.n. kyo.nki ek to svaya.n kuCh samajhatA nahI.n aur jo anAdikA mArga gurudevane batAyA to un par bhakti Aye binA rahatI nahI.n. kyo.nki anAdikA aisA anajAnA mArga ki jo svaya.n kuCh samajhatA nahI.n, aisA mArga jisane samajhAyA us par use mahimA AtI hI rahatI hai.

aise pa.nchamakAlame.n gurudev padhAre aur aisA mArga batAyA to mahimA Aye binA use nahI.n rahatI aur AtmAkA dhyey use sAthame.n rahatA hai ki aisA AtmA hai, vah AtmA mujhe kaise pragaT ho? pragaT honekA nimitta jo gurudev par, dev-guru-shAstra par bhakti Aye binA nahI.n rahatI.

mumukShuH- usame.n koI virUddhatA nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- virUddhatA nahI.n hai. bhaktike sAth AtmAkI jij~nAsAko virUddhatA nahI.n hai. dono.nkA sambandha hai. virUddhatA nahI.n hai. samyagdarshanakI bhUmikAme.n bhI vah hotI hai- dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti. aur munio.nko bhI hotI hai. usakI bhUmikA anusAr hotI


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hai. pUjA Adi kArya nahI.n hote parantu unhe.n bhakti hotI hai. samyagdarshanakI bhUmikAme.n use koI virUddhatA nahI.n hai ki vah rAgakI bhUmikA hai aur AtmA vItarAg hai, isaliye use vah Aye ... vItarAgadashA pragaT hotI hai, tab vah ChUT jAtA hai. parantu vItarAgasvarUp AtmAkA hai, lekin use dR^iShTime.n grahaN kiyA, AtmA nirvikalpa tattva hai, use dR^iShTime.n grahaN kiyA lekin us pragaT nahI.n huA hai tab tak bIchame.n Aye binA nahI.n rahatI. jo svaya.nko jAnanA hai, vah darshAnevAle mile un par bhakti Aye binA nahI.n rahatI. use virUddhatA nahI.n hai ki ab andar AtmAkA karanA hai, bAharakA kuCh nahI.n. lekin vah rAgakI bhUmikAme.n Aye binA rahatA hI nahI.n. nahI.n Aye to svaya.n barAbar samajhA nahI.n hai. svaya.n samajhA nahI.n hai. andar AtmAkA hI karanA hai, bAharakA (kyA kAm hai)? lekin bAharake vikalpa use Aye binA rahate hI nahI.n. dUsarA bAharakA kaise AtA hai? vibhAvakI bhUmikAme.n dUsare vibhAvake bhAv use aprashasta Ate hai.n to prashastame.n palaTe binA nahI.n rahatA. jise AtmAkI ruchi jAgI, usake bhAv prashastame.n palaT jAte hai.n.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!