Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 38.

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mumukShuH- bhAvabhAsan...

samAdhAnaH- usakI jij~nAsA, bhAvanA, laganI sab hotA hai tab hotA hai. usakI laganIke binA nahI.n ho sakatA hai. andar vichAr karake svabhAvako grahaN kare, andar sUkShma upayog karake bAra.nbAr vichAr karake usako grahaN karanA chAhiye, to grahaN hotA hai.

yah sharIr to paradravya hai, vibhAv bhI apanA svabhAv nahI.n. jo jAnanevAlA j~nAyak hai, vah j~nAyak AtmAkA svabhAv hai, jAnanekA svabhAv hai. usako grahaN karanA. mAtra Upar-Uparase grahaN karanA to nahI.n hotA, bhItarame.nse grahaN karanA chAhiye. jab nahI.n hotA hai tab aisA vichAr hotA hai, aisA bAra.nbAr vichAr kare, nakkI kare, parantu bhItarame.nse grahaN karanA hai to usakI jij~nAsA, laganI lage tab hotA hai. AtmAke binA chain nahI.n paDe, gaharAIse laganI lage tab (hotA hai), laganIke binA nahI.n ho sakatA hai. bAharame.n ekatvabuddhi anAdikAlase ho rahI hai. usase bhedaj~nAn kare, ekatva toD ki merA svabhAv nahI.n hai, mai.n to AtmA hI hU.N, mai.n j~nAyak jAnanevAlA hU.N. aisA nakkI to kare parantu bhItarame.nse pariNati hove, tab usakA grahaN hove, tab hotA hai. j~nAyak par dR^iShTi karanI chAhiye, usakA j~nAn karanA chAhiye. vikalpase hotA hai, lekin bhItarame.n sahaj hove tab yathArtha hotA hai. usake binA yathArtha (nahI.n hotA).

mumukShuH- abhI vikalpa to rukate hI nahI.n. jaise svAdhyAy karate hai.n, jAp bhI dete hai.n, mAn lIjiye, to vikalpa to rukate hI nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- anAdikA abhyAs hai. anAdikA veg chal rahA hai. usame.n dhIrA hokar apaneko grahaN kare tab hove. praj~nAChainI jab pragaT hove, bhItarame.n usakI sa.ndhi (mAlUm paDe ki), j~nAn kyA hai aur vibhAv kyA hai, rAg kaun hai aur mai.n kaun hU.N, sa.ndhiko barAbar vichAr kare, grahaN kare ki yah j~nAn hai, yah rAg hai. barAbar sUkShma hokar usakA bhedaj~nAn kare to hotA hai, usake binA nahI.n ho sakatA.

AtA hai na ki, bAra.nbAr guru batAte hai.n. ... tab yadi apanI taiyArI jAgR^it hove tab hove, yadi jAgR^it nahI.n hove to nahI.n hotA hai. dhobIke gharase vastra lekar oDh


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liyA, to kahate hai.n, merA vastra de de. aise guru bAra.nbAr kahate hai.n, terA svabhAv nahI.n hai. tum bhinna AtmA ho. bAra.nbAr kahe tab yadi jAgR^it hove, puruShArtha kare tab jAgR^it (hotA hai). jAgR^it to svaya.nko honA paDegA. vahI to karane jaisA hai.

mumukShuH- hamako svaya.nko puruShArtha karanA hogA.

samAdhAnaH- puruShArtha karanA paDatA hai. bahut puruShArtha kare, bAra.nbAr (kare). aisA abhyAs to to din-rAt chaubIs ghaNTe vibhAv to ho rahA hai. usame.n ek bAr kare, do bAr kare aise to nahI.n hotA hai. bAra.nbAr use bhinna paDanekI laganI honI chAhie. bAra.nbAr, kShaN-kShaName.n mai.n bhinna hU.N, bhinna hU.N, bAra.nbAr (kare). raTTA lagAtA hai, aise raTanamAtrase nahI.n hotA hai. bhItarame.nse bhedaj~nAn kare tab hotA hai.

mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, abhed j~nAyakako grahaN kare. athavA guN ananta, paryAy, usakA lakShaN, usakA bhed hai vah vAstavik bhed nahI.n hai. ananta guN AtmAme.n hai. guNabhed, paryAyabhed par dR^iShTi nahI.n karake, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. AtmAme.n ananta guN hai, vah jAn letA hai ki AtmAme.n ananta guN-paryAy hai.n. lekin dR^iShTi to ek j~nAyak par rakhatA hai. usakA bhedaj~nAn kare tab hotA hai. puruShArtha karanA paDatA hai. ... bal thA. sabako bhedaj~nAn ho, aise.

... AtmA to jAnanevAlA hai. AhAr-pAnI sab AtmAkA svabhAv to hai nahI.n. peTame.n jAtA hai, AtmAme.n to jAtA nahI.n. AhAr-pAnI... jab vItarAg, kevalaj~nAn hotA hai tab sab ChUT jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- ... ChUTanekA prayojan hai.

samAdhAnaH- muni ja.ngalame.n jAte hai.n. AtmAkI kShaN-kShaName.n svAnubhUti karate hai.n. kShaName.n andar svAnubhUti, kShaName.n bAhar Ave, kShaName.n andar, kShaName.n bAhar Ave. koI shubh pariNAm hote hai.n. svAdhyAy, ... aisA karate hai.n. AhArakA vikalpa kabhI Ave to bAhar Ave to kitanI jimmedArIse AhAr lete hai.n. aise to lete nahI.n. AhAr kahA.N AtmAkA svabhAv to hai nahI.n. nirAhArI hai AtmA.

... sab toDane hI baiThe hai.n ve to. j~nAyakako pragaT karanA, usame.n kitanI jimmedArI hai. kisI bhI prakArakI apekShA nahI.n hai, nirapekSha hai.n. AtmAkA dhyAn kare. aise bhAvali.ngI muniko dUsarI koI (apekShA nahI.n hai). bhAvali.ngI muni abhI koI dikhAI nahI.n dete hai.n. kundakundAchArya, amR^itacha.ndrAchArya bhAvali.ngI muni ...

AhArakI koI apekShA hI nahI.n hai. svaya.n svaya.nkA lakShaN darshAtA hai ki ye rahA mai.n. lekin dekhatA nahI.n. j~nAyak svaya.n svaya.nkI j~nAyakatA dvArA darshAtA hai ki ye rahA mai.n.

samAdhAnaH- ... a.ntarakI jij~nAsA hove tab hotA hai. bhedaj~nAn karanese hotA hai.


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a.ntarame.n taiyArI hove, sharIr aur AtmA, vibhAv vah apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. sharIrato paradravya hai, vibhAvasvabhAv apanA nahI.n hai. chaitanya j~nAyakamUrti Anandase bharA huA hai. j~nAnase bharA ananta guNasvarUp koI apUrva padArtha hai. usakA AtmAme.n yathArtha j~nAn karanA chAhiye, yathArtha shraddhA karanI chAhiye, usakI lagan laganI chAhiye. din-rAt laganI lage, usakA bhedaj~nAn kare. jo-jo vikalpa Ate hai.n, vibhAv hotA hai.n, un sabase mai.n bhinna hU.N, AtmA to bhinna svabhAv hai. j~nAyakakA lakShaN pahachAnanA chAhiye. lakShaNake dvArA vah lakShya pahachAname.n AtA hai. lakShaNase AtmAko pahachAnanA chAhiye. usakI shraddhA-pratIt yathArtha (honI chAhiye). Upar-Uparase nahI.n, bhItarame.nse hotA hai tab hotA hai.

bhedaj~nAn karanA chAhiye. bAra.nbAr usakA bhedaj~nAnakA abhyAs karanese, din aur rAt, kShaN-kShaName.n aisA abhyAs hove tab yah hotA hai. bAra.nbAr usakA vikalpase abhyAs nahI.n, sahaj honA chAhiye. pahale to usakI bhAvanA kare, jij~nAsA kare, vikalpase nakkI kare ki yah AtmapadArtha mai.n hU.N. parantu bhItarame.nse aisA sahaj abhyAs bAra.nbAr honA chAhiye, tab hotA hai. nahI.n hove tabatak usakI bhAvanA kare, jij~nAsA kare, tattvakA vichAr kare. bAra.nbAr shAstra abhyAs karake mai.n AtmA hU.N, aisA dhyey honA chAhiye ki muje AtmA kaise pragaT ho? aisI dR^iShTi, aisA j~nAn sab honA chAhiye. tab hotA hai.

mumukShuH- Agamake dvArA to aisA paDh lete hai.n, lekin jaisA Apane kahA ki andarame.n bAt nahI.n jAtI hai, ....

samAdhAnaH- use barAbar nakkI karanA chAhiye. bhItarame.nse honA chAhiye. bhItarame.n laganI lage, usakI mahimA lage ki yah koI anupam padArtha hai. mahimA lage tab hotA hai. mahimA lage, bAra.nbAr vibhAvame.n achChA nahI.n lage, yah sab AkUlatArUp hai. aisA bolanemAtra nahI.n, bhItarame.n aisA lage ki yah sab AkUlatA hai, duHkh hai, merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. mai.n yah chaitanyatattva koI apUrva sukhasvarUp hai, usakI laganI lage tab hove. shAstra abhyAs nimitta hotA hai. parantu karanA to apaneko paDatA hai.

mumukShuH- Apane sahaj pharamAyA, to sahaj aur puruShArtha, ye dono.n alag-alag chIj hai ki ek hI chIj hai?

samAdhAnaH- sahaj aur puruShArtha, puruShArtha aur sahaj, ye dono.n alag chIj hai. puruShArtha karanA, sahaj puruShArtha. sahaj kab hotA hai? sahaj guNa. j~nAnaguN, darshanaguN Adi sahaj svabhAv hai. anAdiananta sahaj padArtha sahaj svataHsiddha kisIne banAyA nahI.n aisA sahaj hai. dravya sahaj hai, guN sahaj hai, sab sahaj hai, paryAy sahaj hai. parantu puruShArtha sahaj honA chAhiye.

j~nAnaguN bhI sahaj hai. svataHsiddha hove usako sahaj kahaneme.n AtA hai. lekan puruShArtha


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sahaj honA chAhiye. vikalpase kR^itrimatAse kare ki yah mai.n hU.N, vichAr karake nakkI kare. pahale to aisA vichAr karake nakkI karanA paDatA hai. bAdame.n usakI dashA hI aisI ho jAye. rAg-dveShakA anAdikA abhyAs hai to usako vikalpa nahI.n karanA paDatA hai. vah to usakA veg sahaj hotA hai. anAdikA abhyAs chal rahA hai to aisA use sahaj jaisA ho gayA hai. vah to vAstavik vibhAv hai. vah vAstavik sahaj nahI.n hai, vah vibhAv to kR^itrim hai. apanA svabhAv hai vah sahaj hai. parantu usakA abhyAs sahaj honA chAhiye. puruShArtha, puruShArtha sahaj honA chAhiye. svabhAv sahaj to anAdiananta hai, puruShArtha sahaj honA chAhiye.

puruShArtha kR^itrimatA karake, haTh karake kare to aise haTh karake pahale AtI hai to haThase nahI.n hotA. sahaj a.ntarame.n aisA lage to bAra.nbAr pariNati us or chalI jAye, puruShArthakI pariNati chalI jAye. aise puruShArtha sahaj honA chAhiye. puruShArtha sahaj honA chAhiye. sahaj yAnI svataH, svataH yAnI dravya bhI sahaj, guN sahaj, aise puruShArtha sahaj honA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- jaise rAg-dveSh karanA sahaj ho gayA hai. sahaj ho jAtA hai, aisA sahaj bhAv, aisI sahajatA.

samAdhAnaH- aisI sahajatA. pahale to tattvakA vichAr kare. tattva vichAra. tattva vichAr na chale to usake liye shAstra abhyAsa. shAstra abhyAs yAnI shAstra abhyAs kar liyA, aise nahI.n. mujhe AtmA kaise samajhame.n Aye, aisA dhyey rakhakar karanA ki mai.n AtmA kaise samajhu.n? mere dravya-guN-paryAy kyA hai? parake kyA hai? mai.n kaise samajhu.N? aisI jij~nAsA (sahit kare). shAstra paDh liyA, kar liyA to sab ho gayA, mai.nne to bahut kiyA, aisA nahI.n honA chAhiye. bahut karanA bAkI hai, mujhe bhItarame.n bahut karanA bAkI hai. shAstra abhyAsase sab kuCh nahI.n ho jAtA. bhItarame.n bahut karanA bAkI hai. aisI bhAvanA, jij~nAsA, usakI laganI laganI chAhiye. sarva pratham yah hai.

shAstra abhyAs, tattva vichAr kare. parantu tattva vichAr karake bhI mai.n AtmA kaise grahaN karu.N? aisA honA chAhiye. laganI laganI chAhiye. AtmAkI mahimA honI chAhiye. sachchA j~nAn honA chAhiye. lekin vah j~nAn mAtra raTanamAtra nahI.n, yathArtha j~nAn honA chAhiye. usakA upAy to yahI hai. laganI lagAye, tattvakA vichAr kare, shAstra abhyAs kare. lekin shAstra abhyAs karane mAtra nahI.n, dhyey rakhanA chAhiye. Atma svarUpako samajhanA chAhiye.

sachchA j~nAna. sachchA j~nAn karanekA puruShArtha to apaneko karanA paDatA hai. mAtra shAstra abhyAs to ananta kAlase bahut kar liyA. lekin bhItarame.n AtmAko nahI.n pahachAnA. apaneko nahI.n jAnatA, sabako jAn letA hai. apaneko nahI.n jAnatA hai to kyA huA?


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apaneko jAne. ek apaneko jAne to sabako jAn letA hai. sabako jAne aur apaneko nahI.n jAne to kyA jAnA?

mumukShuH- gyArah a.ngakA jAnanevAlA apane AtmAko nahI.n jAnatA hai kiyA? usame.n Atma vastu nahI.n AtI hai?

samAdhAnaH- Atmavastuko vah vAstavik nahI.n jAnatA. aise hI jAnatA hai. aise hI paDh letA hai. bhItarame.nse gyArah a.ng ho jAtA hai. AtmA hai, j~nAn hai, paryAy hai, guN hai, sab jAn letA hai. mai.n AtmA hU.N, usakA yathArtha svarUp bhItarame.nse nahI.n jAnatA. aise jAnatA to hai, yathArtha nahI.n jAnatA hai, bhItarame.nse nahI.n jAnatA hai. AtmA rah gayA, AtmAkI pariNati pragaT karanI rah gayI, bAkI sab kuCh jAn liyA. gyArah a.ng jAn liyA, sab ho gayA.

mumukShuH- vah to mAtra kShayopashamaj~nAn kahalAyA.

samAdhAnaH- vah kShayopashamaj~nAn mAtra hI huA. AtmAko nahI.n jAnA, mAtra kShayopashamaj~nAn huA.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! sarvArthasiddhike jo dev hai.n, ve (tai.ntIs sAgar) tattva charchA karate hai.n. to usame.n baDI jij~nAsA hai ki kyA tattvacharchA karate ho.nge?

samAdhAnaH- anek prakArakI. dravya-guN-paryAy Adi. j~nAnakA samudra hai AtmA to. ananta guN, j~nAn to ananta-ananta bharA hai. usame.n ananta apekShAe.N hai.n, ananta dharma hai.n. ekame.n sab A jAtA hai. ekame.n sabakuCh aur usakA vistAr kare to ananta ho jAtA hai. isaliye sAgaropam, 33 sAgaropam tak charchA karate hai.n. j~nAn to ananta hai. bArah a.ng, chaudah pUrvakA j~nAn hotA hai to bhI usakI sImI-maryAdA hotI hai. parantu j~nAnakA svabhAv to ananta-ananta hai.

bhItarame.n munikI bhA.Nti sthir nahI.n jAte. isaliye chaturtha guNasthAn rahatA hai. ChaThThI- sAtave.n guNasthAnakI bhUmikA nahI.n AtI. isaliye shAstra svAdhyAyame.n, charchAme.n sab kAl jAtA hai. charchAme.n, bhagavAnakI pUjAme.n, aise nikAlate hai.n. charchAme.n, bhagavAnakI pUjAme.n, bhaktime.n... ananta j~nAnakA dariyA hai. j~nAn to ananta-ananta hai. lokAlokako jAnanevAlA ek samayame.n. sab dravya-guN-paryAyako, dravya, kShetra, kAl, bhAv ananta kAl gayA, vartamAn, bhaviShya ananta-anantako jAnanevAlA j~nAn aisA kevalaj~nAn, us kevalaj~nAname.n anantatA bharI hai. chaudah pUrva bArah a.ngakA j~nAn bhI sImAvAlA hai. to bhI usakI charchA karate hai.n. usakI mahimA aisI hotI hai shrutaj~nAnakI to charchA karate hai.n.

samyagdarshan hai. samyagdarshaname.n ek AtmAko jAnA hai. ek AtmA jAnA usame.n sabakuCh A jAtA hai. usakA vistAr kare to ananta ho jAtA hai. ekame.n sab A jAtA hai,


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lekin usakA vistAr karanese ananta ho jAtA hai. usamee.n charchA chalatI hai.

mumukShuH- ... to us samay gurudev apane andar chale jAte the?

samAdhAnaH- bhagavAnakI mahimA, tattvakI ... vastu padArthakI unako mahimA AtI thI. isaliye AhA..hA.. (ho jAtA thA). a.ntarame.n chale jAye to vikalpa ChUTakar (jA sakate hai.n). AhA..hA.. hotA thA, usakI utanI mahimA AtI thI. AtmA aisA padArtha! aisA padArtha AtmA hai! aisA AtmA hai! aisI vastu hai! aisA tattvakA svarUp hai, isaliye usako AhA..hA.. hotA thA. bhagavAn AtmA, bhagavAn AtmAkI mahimA lagatI thI. mai.n AtmA bhagavAn aisA hU.N. aisA koI anupam padArtha AtmA bhagavAn hai. apaneko pahachAnA. bolate the, sab bhagavAn hai. apane bhagavAn AtmAko pahachAn lenese sab bhagavAn AtmA hai. bahut mahimAse bolate the. unako utanI mahimA AtI thI.

vastu tattva padArthakI, padArthake tattvakI utanI mahimA AtI thI, isaliye AhA..hA.. bAra.nbAr AtA thA. mahimA AtI thI, bhItar nahI.n chale jAte, unako utanI mahimA, tattvakI bahut mahimA thI. dekhanevAle to dekhate hI rahate the ki kyA bolate hai.n ki kyA bolate hai.n? vastu padArtha kaisA hogA? sabako aisA lagatA thA, padArtha kaisA hogA? AtmA kaisA hogA? gurudev bAr-bAr AhA..hA.. bolate the. unako bahut mahimA AtI thI.

mumukShuH- tIrtha.nkarakA dravya..

samAdhAnaH- tIrtha.nkarakA dravya thA. yah samajho, samajho. yah padArtha koI anupam hai, use samajho. bAr-bAr samajhame.n AtA hai? pahale to aisA kahe ki samajhame.n AtA hai? samajhame.n AtA hai? aisA bolate the. AhA.. AhA.. aisA padArtha! aisA padArtha sab samajho. padArthakI mahimA aisI AtI thI.

mumukShuH- svaya.n aisA mahimAva.nt hai.

samAdhAnaH- svaya.n aisA mahimAva.nt hai. usakI mahimA unako AtI thI. mahimAse bolate the, bhagavAn AtmA. shAstrakA artha kare to oho..! AchAryadev aisA kahate hai.n! AtmAkA svarUp AchAryadev aisA kahate hai.n! aisA karake AhA..hA.. AtA thA. AchAyAkI, shAstro.nkI utanI mahimA AtI thI, tattva padArthakI utanI mahimA AtI thI. isaliye bAra.nbAr AhA.. AhA.. (AtA thA). tattva padArthakI unako bahut mahimA thI. dekhanevAle to dekhate rah jAte. AtmA kyA padArtha hogA? unakI vANI koI apUrva thI.

mumukShuH- tAtkAlik...

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, ekadama. gurudev aisA bolate hai.n to AtmA kaisA hogA? bAra.nbAr AhA.. AhA.. bolate the.prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!