Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 48.

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samAdhAnaH- ... j~nAnasvabhAvakA nirNay karake, phir usame.n AtA hai na? mati- shrutakA upayog jo bAhar jAtA hai use andarame.n sameTanA. j~nAnasvabhAv, AtmA j~nAnasvabhAv hI hai. aisA pahale vikalpase nirNay kare. andar svaya.n apanA svabhAv pahachAnakar a.ntarase nirNay karanA chAhiye ki yah j~nAnasvabhAv hai vahI mai.n hU.N, isake atirikta dUsarA kuCh mai.n nahI.n hU.N. yah sab vikalpa jo Ate hai.n, us vikalpase bhI merA svabhAv bhinna hai. vikalpa hai usase mai.n j~nAnasvabhAv AtmA bhinna hU.N. yah ekatvabuddhikI dhArA anAdi kAlase chal rahI hai ki vikalpa so mai.n aur mai.n so vikalpa, aisI jo ekatvabuddhi hai, sharIr to jaD hai, kuCh jAnatA nahI.n, usake sAth ekatvabuddhi hai, vikalpake sAth ekatvabuddhi hai. usase bhinna mai.n j~nAnasvabhAv hU.N.

j~nAn yAnI guN nahI.n, parantu pUrNa j~nAyak hU.N. us j~nAyakako grahaN karake j~nAyak hI mai.n hU.N, sab shubhAshubh vikalpa jo Ate hai.n usase mai.n bhinna hU.N. aisA nirNay a.ntarame.n karake barAbar dR^iDh karake vah pratIt a.ntarase AnI chAhiye. vikalpase vichAr karake nirNay kare parantu a.ntarame.nse nirNay AnA chAhiye ki yah j~nAyak hai vahI mai.n hU.N. barAbar j~nAyakakA svabhAv pahachAnakar, use grahaN karake, nirNay karake phir mati-shrutakA upayog jo bAhar jAtA hai, jo vichAr kare, bhale U.Nchese U.Nche vichAr Aye, phir bhI merA svabhAv to nirvikalpa hai. aise vichAr to shubhabhAv mishrit hai.n. usame.n shubhabhAv sAthame.n hai. usase bhI (bhinna) mai.n nirvikalpa svabhAv hU.N. usase bhI mai.n to bhinna hU.N. shubhabhAv mishrit hai isaliye vah mai.n nahI.n. sabase bhinna karake svaya.n apane svarUpame.n lIn hA jAy, usame.n sthir ho jAy, aisA sthir ho jAy, usase virakta hokar sthir ho jAy to usake vikalpa ChUT jAya. to usakA j~nAyak svabhAv hai (usakI) svAnubhUtikI dashA pragaT ho. bAhar jAtA hai vah sab AkulatA hai.

matikA upayog, shrutakA upayog sab bAhar jAtA hai. a.ntarame.n sameTakar a.ntar j~nAyakame.n lIn jAy, j~nAyakame.n aisA lIn ho jAy ki bAharakA use kuCh dhyAn hI nahI.n ho, aisA j~nAyakame.n lIn ho jAy, to vikalpa ChUT jAya. usame.n vah AtA hai. a.ntarame.n aisA AtmA j~nAyak, usakI svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai. vah sab AtA hai. svaya.n sabase bhinna


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j~nAyak svabhAv Upar tairatA nirvikalpa svabhAv, aisA j~nAyak AtmA bhagavAn pragaT hotA hai. j~nAyak bhagavAna. lekin a.ntarame.nse bhinna paDanA chAhiye.

bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT honI chAhiye. phir bAhar Aye to-to bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA use chAlU rahatI hai. sahaj bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA. jis kShaN vikalpa utpanna ho, usI kShaN use j~nAyak svabhAv bhinna hI bhAsatA hai. dono.n dhArA bhinna chalatI hai. a.ntarame.n lIn ho jAy to bAharakA kuCh dhyAn nahI.n rahatA. a.ntarame.n akelA j~nAyak svabhAv, ek j~nAyakame.n hI svaya.n aisA lIn ho jAtA hai, usame.n svAnubhUtikI dashA pragaT hotI hai. aisI lInatA pragaT honI chAhiye.

yathArtha j~nAn-nirNay karake phir aisI lInatA a.ntarame.n pragaT honI chAhiye. usase bhinna hokara. j~nAn, shraddhA aur amuk a.nshame.n lInatA. visheSh lInatA munio.nko hotI hai, parantu svAnubhUtikI dashAme.n bhI lInatA hI hotI hai. samyagdarshanakI bhUmikAme.n bhI lInatA (hai), jo A.nshik svarUpAcharaN chAritra pragaT hotA hai.

... mahimA Akar, j~nAyak svabhAvako pahachAnakar j~nAyakame.n hI sabakuCh hai, bAhar kuCh nahI.n hai, utanI j~nAyakakI mahimA AnI chAhiye, svabhAvako barAbar pahachAnanA chAhiye aur vibhAvase virakta honI chAhiye. svabhAvame.n hI sab hai, vibhAvame.n kahI.n ras nahI.n Aye, akele chetanyakA ras baDh jAy, j~nAyakakA ras, j~nAyakakI mahimA, bAra.nbAr j~nAyak..j~nAyak, aisI j~nAyakadevakI mahimA Aye, use a.ntarame.nse grahaN kare aur usame.n lIn ho to vikalpa ChUT jAya.

usakA kram vah hai ki pahale barAbar j~nAnasvabhAvakA nirNay honA chAhiye. usake bAd yathArtha j~nAn ho to phir yathArtha dhyAn ho. j~nAn aur dhyAn is prakAr yathArthapane hote hai.n.

muumukShuH- nirNay to aise bahut bAr hotA hai. chain nahI.n paDatA. rAtako jAgate hai.n, ratajagA nahI.n lage. kuCh lage, lekin vah sab vyavahArik bAt hai. lekin jo vastu honI chAhiye..

samAdhAnaH- a.ntarame.nse grahaN honA chAhiye. a.ntarame.nse grahaN honA chAhiye. bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs karate rahanA, bAra.nbAra. bhale svAdhyAy kare, vichAr kare, sab kare, bhale jab tak nahI.n hotA tab tak to svAdhyAy, vichAr Adi hI karanA hotA hai, parantu bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs bAra.nbAr kare. bhedaj~nAnakA abhyAs bAra.nbAr (kare).

dravya par dR^iShTi karake bAra.nbAr mai.n isase bhinna hU.N, is prakAr bAra.nbAr usakI mahimApUrvak karatA rahe to hotA hai. bAra.nbAr vichAr karake amuk nirNay vikalpase karake phir ChUT jAy, bhAvanA rahe ki mai.n bhinna.. bhinna (hU.N), parantu bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs kare to


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hotA hai. bAra.nbAr kare. bAra.nbAr abhyAs karate-karate a.ntarame.nse yathArtha nirNay Aye to hotA hai. bAra.nbAr abhyAs karanese thakanA nahI.n, ka.nTAlanA nahI.n, bAra.nbAr abhyAs karate rahanA.

mumukShuH- ... lekin bAdame.n ... shAnti bhI lage, lekin usake bAd kyA?

samAdhAnaH- yah jAnanevAlA mai.n hU.N, jAnanevAleme.n sarvasva hai. jAnanevAleko yathArtha grahaN karake usame.n lIn ho jAya. bAhar jAte upayogako, bAhar jAtA upayog a.ntarame.n A jAy to hotA hai. bAhar jAte upayogako a.ntarame.n jhukAye to hotA hai. pratham sudR^iShTi kare, pratham is sharIrase bhinna kiyA, is vikalpase bhinna, ... sabase bhinna karake a.ntarame.n lIn ho jAya. aisA kram nahI.n hai, lekin aisA kram liyA hai. jo ekase bhinna huA, vah sabase bhinna ho jAtA hai. sthUlase bhinna, andar sUkShma vikalpase bhinna, ashubhase bhinna, shubhase bhinna, ... sabase bhinna hokar a.ntarame.n lIn ho jAya. ashubhabhAvase bachaneko shubhabhAv bIchame.n Aye. dravya-guN-paryAyake vichAr Aye, sab Aye, lekin vah sab AkulatArUp buddhiko a.ntarame.n samAkar sabase ChUT jAya. Upar tairatA aisA j~nAyak bhagavAn tujhe pragaT hogA. sab shabda (Ate hai.n).

mumukShuH- lAlach honI chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- parapadArthakI lAlach aur tujhe lAlasA hotI hai ki yah mujhe chAhiye, yah ThIk hai, yah achChA hai, aisI parapadArthakI or jo lAlasA hotI hai, vaise tujhe yahA.N j~nAyak achChA hai, mujhe j~nAyak kaise mile, mujhe j~nAyak kaise pragaT ho, vaise use lAlasA honI chAhiye. lAlasA yAnI bhAvanA honI chAhiye, usakI ichChA honI chAhiye. yah j~nAyak bhagavAn vahI sarvasva hai, yah kuCh sarvasva nahI.n hai, yah bAharakI vastuo.nme.n kuCh nahI.n hai. is j~nAyakame.n hI sarvasva hai. shubhabhAv sAthame.n hai.n, lekin shubhabhAvakI dishA palaTatI hai. bIchame.n Aye binA rahate nahI.n.

yah j~nAyak bhagavAn mujhe kaise mile, aise bhAvanA honI chAhiye. yah j~nAyak bhagavAn vahI sarvashreShTha hai. ananta kAlame.n sabakuCh mil gayA hai, kuCh bhI nayA nahI.n hai. devalokakI R^iddhiyA.N ananta bAr prApta huyI hai. usame.n koI visheShatA nahI.n hai. ananta kAlame.n nahI.n milA hai to ek AtmA (aur) samyagdarshanakI prApti nahI.n huyI hai. vahI sarvasva hai. usakI tujhe bhAvanA, usakI mahimA, usakA Ashcharya laganA chAhiye. usakA Ashcharya kar to tujhe vah pragaT hogA. tujhe usakA Ashcharya nahI.n lagatA hai aur bAharakA Ashcharya lagatA hai. bAharakI koI vastu AshcharyakArI nahI.n hai. vah to tujhe bahut bAr prApta huyI hai, ananta kAlame.n. devalokake ratna aur ye sab Dher prApta hue hai.n. koI rAjAkI padavI prApta huyI hai, usame.n koI visheShatA nahI.n hai. visheShatA AshcharyakArI vastu ho to AtmA


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hai. usakA Ashcharya kara. usakI bhAvanA hI nahI.n karatA hai, usakA Ashcharya lagatA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- bahut khushI batAte the ki kaisI sundar rachanA huyI hai na.ndishvarakI.

samAdhAnaH- pa.nchameru na.ndishvar shAshvat jinAlay hai. kudaratame.n shAshvat hai. yahA.N to pratiShThA kI hai. ratnake shAshvat bhagavAna. kudarat bhagavAnarUp pariNamit ho gayI hai. kudaratake sab rajakaN, pudagalake ska.ndh bhagavAnarUp aur mandirarUp hote hai.n. yah aisA sUchit karatA hai ki jagatame.n sarvotkR^iShTa koI ho to tIrtha.nkar dev bhagavAn hai.n. mandir Adi jagatame.n sarvotkR^iShTa hai.

vah sarvotkR^iShTa hai, Atma bhagavAn bhI sarvotkR^iShTa hai. sab pratimAe.N AtmAko darshAtI hai. tIrtha.nkaradev unakI vANI dvArA AtmAkA svarUp samajhame.n AtA hai. in sabakA Ashcharya karanevAlA chaitanya ratnAkar sabase U.NchA hai. bAharame.n sarvotkR^iShTa bhagavAn tIrtha.nkar dev aur a.ntarame.n sarvotkR^iShTa AtmA hai. kudarat bhagavAnako sarvotkR^iShTa batA rahI hai ki ham rajakaN bhI bhagavAnarUp pariNamit ho jAte hai.n. meru na.ndishvarake Upar bhagavAn AdikA dikhAv kiyA hai.

mumukShuH- ... kuCh to mil hI jAtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- prayog to sva.nyako karanA hai. gurudevane spaShTa kar-karake bahut samajhAyA hai. aisA spaShTa kar diyA hai ki kisIko sha.nkA na rahe. itanA taiyAr karake diyA. ab prayog karanA to svaya.nko bAkI rahatA hai. aisA taiyAr karake de diyA hai, sab taiyAr karake (diyA), lekin galeke nIche to svaya.nko utAranA paDatA hai. sab karanA to svaya.nko hai. roTIkA nivAlA taiyAr karake, ekadam spaShTa kar-karake, AsAn kar-karake jo kaThin samajhame.n nahI.n AtA thA, use ekadam saral kar-karake samajhAyA. shAstrakA rahasya koI khol nahI.n sakatA thA. ekadam spaShTa kar diyA. ab karanA svaya.nko hai, svaya.nko prayog karanA bAkI rahatA hai.

shAstrame.n sab AtA hai, gurudevane bahut spaShTa karake kahA hai ki bhedaj~nAn kara. lekin karanA to svaya.nko ho. dravyadR^iShTi kar, bhedaj~nAn kara. bhedaj~nAnakA prayog to svaya.nko karanA hai. kaise a.ntarame.n bhedaj~nAnakI pariNit pragaT karanI? aur j~nAyakako grahaN karanA, dravya par dR^iShTi karake bhedaj~nAn karanA, use prayogame.n rakhanA vah to svaya.nko karanA hai. mArga batA diyA hai ki bAharame.n kahI.n bhI mithyA prayatna mat kara. a.ntarame.n dravya par dR^iShTi kar, bhedaj~nAn kara. bhedaj~nAnakA prayog karanA hai, dravya par dR^iShTi karanI hai, parantu karanA to svaya.nko hai.

abhI bAhar kitane hI dhyAname.n chaDh gaye hai.n, lekin sachche j~nAn binAkA dhyAn mArga kaise prApta ho? andarase prayojanabhUt j~nAn to honA chAhiye ki yah j~nAyak hai. use


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grahaN kare, apanA astitva grahaN kare to usame.n dhyAn ho. astitvako grahaN kiye binA kahA.N ekAgra hokar khaDA rahegA? ekAgratA kis par karanI? j~nAyakake grahaN kare to usame.n ekAgratA hotI hai. nahI.n to vikalpakI ekAgratA ho jAyegI. amuk prakArake vikalpa ho jAye.nge to use aisA lagegA ki mai.n ekAgra ho gayA. sUkShma vikalpa hai. j~nAyakako grahaN kare to ekAgratA ho. j~nAyakake grahaN kiye binA ekAgratA hotI nahI.n.

sachche j~nAn binA sachchI shraddhA hotI nahI.n. isaliye j~nAn aur shraddhA dono.n sAthame.n rahe hai.n. muktike mArgame.n shraddhAn mukhya hai, lekin shraddhAke sAth j~nAn to kAm karatA hI rahatA hai. yathArtha j~nAn sAthame.n honA chAhiye. aj~nAn bhI bAdhak hai. kuCh jAnatA nahI.n, mai.n kaun hU.N? yah vibhAv kyA? svabhAv kyA? dravya-guN-paryAy kuCh jAnatA nahI.n. vah aj~nAn bhI bAdhak hai.

shraddhA-svarUpakI shraddhA nahI.n hai to bhI bAdhak hai. jAnA ki yah vastu aisI hai. dravya, guN (hai). pratIt DagamagAtI hai. shraddhAn nahI.n hai to vah bhI bAdhak hai. dono.n bAdhak hai.n.

mumukShuH- shraddhA svaya.n samyak hotI hai. j~nAnakA vikAs to dhIre-dhIre hotA jAtA hai. ...

samAdhAnaH- shraddhA to jab yathArtha hotI hai tabhI use sachchI shraddhA kahate hai.n. bAkI vikalpapUrvakakI shraddhA, usako yathArtha shraddhAkA nAm nahI.n diyA jAtA. shraddhA dhIre-dhIre baDhatI jAy aisA nahI.n, sachchI shraddhA to jis kShaN hotI hai usI kShaN hotI hai. j~nAn dhIre-dhIre baDhatA jAy, vah to prayojanabhUt j~nAn to sAthame.n hotA hai. shraddhAke sAth prayojanabhUt j~nAn ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N aur yah vibhAv hai, sva-parakA bhedavij~nAn, bas, yah prayojanabhUt j~nAn aur shraddhA dono.n sAthame.n hI hote hai.n. phir j~nAnakA vistAr ho vah alag bAt hai. vistAr dhIre-dhIre ho, vah alag bAt hai. prayojanabhUt j~nAn aur shraddhA dono.n sAthame.n hI rahe hai.n.

mumukShuH- jis samay shraddhA samyak hotI hai..

samAdhAnaH- usI kShaN j~nAn samyak hotA hai. jis kShaN samyak shraddhA huyI, tab j~nAn bhI samyak hotA hai. usake pahale j~nAnako samyak nAm nahI.n diyA jAtA aur usake pahale vikalpapUrvakakI shraddhAko bhI samyak nAm nahI.n diyA jAtA. use vyavahAr kahate hai.n, vyavahAr shraddhA kahaneme.n AtI hai. dev-guru-shAstrakI sachchI shraddhA aur vichArase nakkI kare ki mai.n bhinna hU.N, yah merA svabhAv nahI.n hai, aise vichArase nakkI kare to bhI samyak nAm to jab bhedavij~nAnakI pariNati ho tabhI use samyak nAm kah sakate hai.n.

mumukShuH- ... jab hotA hogA, us vakta shraddhAme.n sAth-sAth nahI.n chalatA hogA?


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samAdhAnaH- use gyArah a.ngakA j~nAn ho to bhI shraddhA usakI samyak nahI.n hai. use sva-parakA bhedavij~nAn nahI.n hai, vichAr karatA rahe, nakkI karatA rahe ki mai.n bhinna hU.N, aise shAstrake sab pATh paDh liye, gyArah a.ng paDh liyA, vah bhI paDhanese nahI.n hotA, bhale andarase (AtA hai), phir bhI vah sab a.ntar pariNatipUrvak nahI.n hai. isaliye use shraddhA sachchI nahI.n hai. aise vyavahAr shraddhA kahaneme.n Aye. vyavahAr shraddhA to aisI hotI hai ki Uparase dev utarakar DigAye to bhI Dige nahI.n, aisI usakI shraddhA hotI hai. aisA usakA j~nAn hotA hai ki koI DigAye to Dige nahI.n. aise shraddhA-j~nAn vyavahArame.n hote hai.n. parantu a.ntarame.n shubharAg aur mai.n bhinna hai.n, shubharAgase mujhe lAbh nahI.n hai. shubharAgakI ruchi a.ntarame.n rah jAtI hai. shubharAg vibhAv hai, aisA bole, para.ntu a.ntarame.n shubharAgakI ruchi rah jAtI hai. vah use ChUTatI nahI.n. isaliye bhale gyArah a.ng paDhA, lekin shraddhA sachchI nahI.n hai. shraddhA sachchI nahI.n hai isaliye j~nAnako bhI samyak nAm nahI.n diyA jAtA. bhale dravya-guN-paryAyakI sab bAte.n karatA ho, to bhI.

mumukShuH- j~nAname.n bhAvakA bhAsan yathArtha..

samAdhAnaH- andar yathArtha bhAsan nahI.n hai. jain dharma sachchA, sab sachchA aisA sab nirNay karatA ho, dUsare mat sachche nahI.n hai, jain (mat) sachchA hai, aisA sab usane buddhise nakkI kiyA hotA hai. parantu andar svAnubhUtikA pa.nth aur andar svAnubhUti kaise ho, vaisI pariNati use pragaT nahI.n huyI hai. andar gaharAIme.n shubharAgakI ruchi rah jAtI hai. andarame.n shubharAgakI ruchikI pravR^itti, aisI pravR^itti-andar gaharI ruchi rah jAtI hai. vah ruchi use ChUTatI nahI.n. andarakI ruchi AtmAkI or har tarahase jhuk jAy, aisI ruchi AtmAkI or gaharAIse (nahI.n hotI). yah duHkhamay sa.nsAr hai, yah sab aisA hai, aisA sab use hotA hai. sa.nsArame.n bahut duHkh hai, aisA hotA hai. lekin andar mere AtmAme.n sukh hai aur mere AtmAkA astitva kyA, yah a.ntarame.nse use ruchipUrvak nakkI nahI.n karatA.

mumukShuH- Upar-Uparase... samAdhAnaH- Upar-Upar sab vichAr Ate hai.n. bolaneme.n use sab AtA hai. bole, parantu andar mai.n bhinna, mujhe bhedaj~nAn karanA hai, mai.n isase bhinna hU.N, aisI apanI pariNati pragaT nahI.n karatA. mai.nne sab ChoDA hai aur mujhe to koI rAg hI nahI.n hai, mai.nne to sab tyAg kar diyA hai. AtmA Adi sab mujhe ho gayA hai. aisA svaya.nko sarvasva mAn letA hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amR^it vANIno jay ho!