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mumukShuH- .. ek mAtra upAy Ap paramAtma puruSho.nkA Ashray hI pharamAte ho. yah siddhAnta hame.n hR^idayagat nahI.n ho rahA hai athavA usakA bhAvabhAsan nahI.n ho rahA hai.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevane ek hI kahA hai ki paramAtmAkA Ashray karo-AtmAkA Ashray karo, vahI ek auShadhi hai. gurudevane upadeshame.n bAra.nbAr ek hI bAt kahate the ki yahI ek paramAtmAkA Ashray karo. vah paramAtmA kaisA hai? usakA svaya.n vichAr kare. bAra.nbAr usakA j~nAnalakShaN hai use pahachAnakar vichAr kare to pahachAname.n Aye aisA hai. bAharame.n hI bAharame.n (rahe), sachchA vichAr a.ntarase na kare, usakI jij~nAsA kare, usakI laganI na lagAye to vah samajhame.n nahI.n AtA. bAkI to samajhame.n Aye aisA hai. svaya.n hI hai, anya koI nahI.n hai ki kisIko pUChanA paDe.

gurudevane bahut batAyA hai. vah svaya.n hI hai. vichAr kare to j~nAnalakShaNase svaya.n pahachAname.n A sake aisA hai. svaya.n svaya.nko na pahachAne vah apanI bhUlake kAraNa. svaya.nko bAharame.n ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai isaliye nahI.n pahachAn sakatA. pahachAnanekA nishchay kare to pahachAn sake aisA hai. usakA mArga to gurudevane itanA spaShTa karake batAyA hai ki kahI.n bhUl na rahe, aisA batAyA hai.

paramAtmAkA j~nAnalakShaN (hai). usame.n ananta guN bhare hai.n, ananta Ananda bharA hai ananta j~nAn bharA hai, ananta j~nAn bharA hai. AtmA gupta rahe aisA nahI.n hai. parantu anAdi kAlase svaya.n bAhar bhaTakatA hai, isaliye pahachAn nahI.n sakatA. usakI jij~nAsA kare, usakI laganI lagAye, bAra.nbAr gurudevane kyA kahA hai, usakA vichAr kare, usakA bhedaj~nAn kare to pahachAn sake aisA hai. yah sharIr bhinna, AtmA bhinna, yah vibhAv hotA hai vah bhI apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai, AkulatArUp hai. is prakAr svaya.n pahachAnanekA nishchay kare to pahachAn sake aisA hai. vah svaya.n karatA hI nahI.n, kahA.Nse pahachAne? puruShArtha hI nahI.n karatA hai.

auShadh ek hI hai. yah rog, anAdikA vibhAvakA rog hai. usakI auShadhi ek paramAtmAkA Ashray karanA-AtmAkA Ashray karanA. paramAtmA arthAt (AtmA). bAhya paramAtmAko pahachAne to svaya.nko pahachAne, svaya.nko pahachAne to paramAtmAko pahachAne. parantu bAhar jahA.N upayog jAy, vahA.N shubhabhAv aur ashubhabhAv, dono.n bhAv bAhya upayogase

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hote hai.n. a.ntar dR^iShTi kare, shuddhAtmAko pahachAne to shubhAshubhabhAvase bhinna AtmA hai. dono.n bhAv usame.n nahI.n hai, AkulatAsvarUp hai.

pahachAnanekA nishchay kare to pahachAn sake aisA hai. lekin pahachAnatA hI nahI.n. svaya.nkI bhUl hai. "nij nayananI ALase, nirakhyA nahI.n harine jarI.' svaya.n hI hariko pahachAnatA nahI.n. apanI Alasake kAraN ananta kAl vyatIt kiyA. yah manuShya bhav milA, usame.n aise gurudev mile, to svaya.n puruShArtha karake pahachAne to pahachAn sake aisA hai. apane puruShArthakI kamI hai.

mumukShuH- shubhAshubh bhAv jaldI hR^idayagat ho jAte hai.n, bhAvabhAsanase samajhame.n Ate hai.n. vaise isakA bhAvabhAsan kaise ho ki yahI paramAtmA hai?

samAdhAnaH- shubhAshubh bhAvo.nme.n anAdise ekatvabuddhi kar rahA hai aur apane vedaname.n A rahe hai.n, isaliye use khyAlame.n AtA hai. parantu yah to svaya.n vichAr kare to pahachAn sake aisA hai. jo shubhAshubh bhAv hote hai.n, vah sab to chale jAte hai.n, usake pIChe jo jAnanevAlA hai, vah jAnanevAlA to vaise hI khaDA rahatA hai. jAnanevAlA hai vahI mai.n hU.N. jAnanevAle par dR^iShTi kare, usame.n sUkShma upayog karake dekhe to jAnanevAlA jAnaneme.n Aye aisA hai.

jAnanevAlA svaya.nko kyo.n nahI.n j~nAt ho? jAnanevAlA svaya.nko jAn sake aisA hai. parantu pahachAnatA nahI.n. apanI bhUlake kAraN laganI lagAtA nahI.n, jij~nAsA karatA nahI.n, isaliye usakA bhAvabhAsan nahI.n ho rahA hai. usake bhAv andar hR^idayagat ho sake aisA hai, parantu pahachAnatA nahI.n hai.

anek jIv bhedaj~nAn karake mokShame.n gaye haiai.n. ananta jIv usI mArgase jAte hai.n. parantu svaya.n hI bhedaj~nAn karatA nahI.n. bhedavij~nAnake abhAvase mokShame.n jAte nahI.n. jo jAte hai.n ve bhedavij~nAnase hI jAte hai.n. ananta gaye hai.n. ananta jIvakA sabakA svabhAv ek hI jAtikA hai. siddha bhagavAn jaisA sabakA svabhAv hai. vah nahI.n ho sake aisA nahI.n hai. ananta jIvo.nne apanA svarUp pahachAnakar, svAnubhUti karake, chAritra eva.n kevalaj~nAn pragaT kar mokShakI sAdhan kI. ananta jIvo.nne. pratyekakA svabhAv ek hI jAtikA hai. sab kar sakate hai.n, na kar sake aisA nahI.n hai.

.. AtmA sArabhUt hai, bAkI sab niHsAr hai. baDe rAjA aur chakravartIo.nko bhI sa.nsArakA svarUp aisA lagA ki sa.nsAr ChoDakar chale jAte the. a.ntarame.n AtmAkA kalyAN karate the. kyo.nki is sa.nsArakA svarUp to aisA hI hai. chakravartIo.nko koI nahI.n bachA sakatA aur devalokake devo.nko bhI koI nahI.n bachA sakatA. jalda yA derase, sabakA AyuShya to pUrA hI honevAlA hai. isaliye is manuShya jIvaname.n AtmAkA kalyAN karanA,

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vahI shreyabhUt hai.

kisIko kisIke sAth sambandha nahI.n hai. mAtra pUrvake koI sambandhake kAraN jIv kisIke ghar janma letA hai. usakA AyuShya parA ho to usakI mR^ityu hotI hai. kisIkA kisIke sAth koI sambandha nahI.n hai. AtmA svaya.n akelA janmatA hai, akelA maratA hai, usake sAth koI AtA nahI.n. jIv janma-maraN karanevAlA, apane puNya-pApake kAraN janma-maraN karanevAlA akelA hai aur mokSha jAnevAlA bhI akelA hI hai. isaliye puruShArtha karake jIvako palaTakar, pariNAm palaTakar AtmAkA kalyAN kaise ho? usakA vichAr, vA.nchan Adime.n chitta lagAnA.

mai.n to ek j~nAyak shAshvat AtmA, siddha bhagavAn jaisA AtmA hU.N. mujhe kisIke sAth koI sambandha nahI.n hai. AyuShya pUrA hotA hai, sabakA AyuShya pUrA hotA hai. ataH shA.nti aur samAdhAn rakhanA vahI shreyarUp hai. bAharame.n jinendra dev, guru aur shAstrame.n chitta lagAnA. andarame.n AtmA kaise prApta ho? AtmA jAnanevAlA, usakA bhedaj~nAn kaise ho? yah sharIr bhinna hai aur AtmA bhinna hai. do bhinna-bhinna vastue.N hai.n. AtmA shAshvat hai. sharIrake pheraphAr hote hai.n. ek bhav ChoDakar, dUsarA bhav shuru ho jAtA hai. dUsarA bhav dhAraN karatA hai.

AtmA vahI shAshvat rahatA hai. isaliye shubhabhAv-achChe bhAv karake AtmAkA kalyAN kaise ho, vahI karane jaisA hai. vahI sArabhUt hai, bAkI sab jagatame.n tuchCha hai. koI sArabhUt vastu hI nahI.n hai. jIv yah mAne ki yah sab achChA-achChA hai. vah sab bAhya puNya-pApake prakAr hai. puNyakA pheraphAr kab ho, vah kisIke hAthakI bAt nahI.n hai. isaliye AtmAkA kalyAN kar lenA vahI sArabhUt hai.

mumukShuH- ... sa.nsArakI pravR^itti ho, usake sAth AtmakalyANakA sIdhA rAstA kaunasA hai? AtmAkA kalyAN karanA vah to barAbar hai. parantu bAhya pravR^itti to hotI hai, usame.n kis prakAr samay..

samAdhAnaH- andar AtmAkI ruchi a.ntarame.n rakhanI. sa.nsArame.n ekatvabuddhi kam karake mujhe AtmAkA karanA hai, aisI ruchi andar rakhanI. aur bAharase samay mile tab shAstravA.nchan karanA, gurudevane jo samajhAyA hai, gurudevake shAstra, gurudevake pravachan jisame.n samajhamee.n Aye vah vA.nchan karanA. samay mile to satsa.ng karanA. koI vA.nchan karatA ho aise mandirame.n jAnA. bhagavAnake darshan Adime.n hI samay vyatIt karanA. sA.nsArik pravR^itti chalatI ho to bhI usame.nse samay mile to shAstra svAdhyAy kare. mandir jAnekA samay nahI.n ho to gharame.n baiThakar shAstra paDhanA. usame.n samajhame.n nahI.n Aye to shAstra vA.nchan Apake yahA.N mandirame.n bhI chalatA hogA, vahA.N jAnA. athavA jahA.N koI shAstra samajhAtA ho, vahA.N

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jAnA, mandir jAnA. usame.n samay (vyatIt karanA). devadarshan, pUjA, bhakti, shAstra svAdhyAy Adime.n samay (vyatIt karanA). jo samay bache usame.nse usame.n samay vyatIt karanA. aur AtmAkA kalyAN kaise ho? satya mArga kyA hai? in sabakA vichAr karanA.

yah sab shubhabhAv hai, parantu usame.n AtmAkA kalyAN kaise ho, usakA vichAr karanA usame.nse. sA.nsArik pravR^itti chalatI ho usame.nse samay nikAlakar bhI amuk samay shAstra svAdhyAy karanA hai. samay nikAlanA. usake vichAr (karanA). andar khaTak rakhanI ki yah sab to sa.nsAr hai. manuShya jIvan aisI hI sab pravR^ittime.n chalA jAtA hai. AtmAkA kuCh kare.n, aisI andar khaTak, ruchi rakhanI aur shAstra svAdhyAy (karanA). dev-guru- shAstrakI mahimA, pUjA, bhakti, shAstra svAdhyAyakA samay usame.nse nikAl lenA.

mumukShuH- jo sA.nsArik grup ho usake sAth manakA samAdhAn kar letI hU.N.

samAdhAnaH- manakA samAdhAn kar lenA? manako badal denA ki sa.nsArakA svarUp to aisA hI hai. vah to apane pUrvame.n bA.Ndhe hue puNya-pApake uday hai, vah Ate hI rahate hai.n. sa.nsArakA svarUp hI aisA hai. manako badal denA. kisIkA koI kuCh nahI.n kar sakatA. vah to puNya-pApake uday hai, Ate hI rahate hai.n. isaliye manako badalakar AtmAkA svarUp kyA hai? AtmA kaisA hai? AtmA koI apUrva chIj hai, anupam hai, vah mujhe kaise prApta ho? yah sab pheraphAr (hote hai.n). shAshvat kuCh dikhatA nahI.n. andar shAshvat AtmA hai, vah mujhe kaise pragaT ho? usakI ruchi karanI.

sa.nsArik sukh-duHkh to pUrvake puNya-pApake uday hai.n. pUrvame.n jo svaya.nne pApake pariNAm kiye ho.n, usakA uday hai. puNya pariNAm kiye ho.n to usake uday Ate hai.n. bhavakA abhAv kaise ho? usake vichAr karanA. AtmA kaun hai? AtmAkA svarUp kyA hai? puNya-pApake uday sarvako Ate hai.n. puNya-pApake uday to sa.nsArame.n paDe hI hai.n. chAhe jitane puNyashAlI ho.n to use bhI pApake uday to is manuShya jIvaname.n paDe hI hai.n. puNya aur pAp dono.n sAth juDe hai.n.

... use kisI bhI prakArakI kamI nahI.n thI. akele puNyakA Dher thA. jo ichChA ho usake anusAr sab hAjir ho. aise chakravartI ho to bhI use rog huA thA. isaliye puNya aur pAp dono.n sa.nsArame.n hote hI hai.n. usakA rUp dekhaneko Uparase dev Ate hai.n. mai.n shrR^i.ngAr sajakar AU.N tab dekhanA. dev kahate hai.n ki abhI ApakA rUp badal gayA hai. Apake sharIrame.n rogakA pravesh ho gayA hai. chakravartIko aisA vairAgya AtA hai ki vah sab ChoDakar muni banakar chal dete hai.n. sa.nsArame.n yah sab paDA hI hai.

pahale ekadam puruShArtha uThatA thA isaliye sab muni ban jAte the. abhI vah ChoDanese dharma ho jAy (aisA nahI.n hai). a.ntarame.nse svaya.n nirlep rahakar svarUpako pahachAnakar a.ntarame.n

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ho sakatA hai. gR^ihasthAshramame.n rahakar bhI ho sakatA hai. svaya.n a.ntarakI ruchi pragaT kare. andar sa.nsArakA ras kam kar de. andarase ekatvabuddhi toD de. vichAr, vA.nchaname.n chitta joD de. to ho sakatAhai.

mumukShuH- vyavahArik taurase jo sa.nsArame.n karanA hai, use adhik mahattA denI yA svaya.nke AtmAkI mahattA adhik denI?

samAdhAnaH- AtmAko jyAdA mahattva denA. vah to usame.n baiThA hai isaliye karanA paDatA hai. bAkI mahattva AtmAko denA. vah mahattvapUrNa vastu nahI.n hai-sA.nsArik kArya mahattvake nahI.n hai. vah to svaya.nkA rAg hai isaliye usame.n juDatA hai.

mumukShuH- .. usake pIChe jyAdA samay dekar.. yA apane AtmAke kalyANake liye...

samAdhAnaH- bhalA hotA ho usame.n svaya.nko rAg hotA hai. parantu svaya.n dUsarekA kuCh kar nahI.n sakatA. dUsarekA bhalA svaya.n nahI.n kar sakatA. usakA puNya-pApakA uday hotA hai us anusAr banatA hai. sAmanevAlekA bhalA ho, vah svaya.n nahI.n kar sakatA hai. svaya.nko rAg AtA hai. jaisA svaya.nko rAg AtA ho, us rAg anusAr vahA.Nse ChUT jAya. use jo bhAv Ate ho, nahI.n rah sakatA ho, gR^ihasthAshramame.n hai isaliye. bAkI svaya.nko jo karanA hai, use gauN nahI.n kiyA jA sakatA. kabhI-kabhAr samay nahI.n mile to svaya.n andar ruchi rakhe. samay nikAlanekA prayatna kare, andar ruchi rakhe. bAkI mahattva to AtmAkA hI hai, bAhya kAyAkA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- puNya upArjan kaise...

samAdhAnaH- AtmAkI or ruchi rakhe to puNya bhI usame.n hotA hai, sabakuCh usame.n hI hotA hai. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA aur AtmAkI orakI ruchi, puNyame.n bhI usame.n hotA hai. sabakuCh usame.n hI hotA hai. jo jIv puNyako ichChatA hai, to bhI vah dev- guru-shAstrakI mahimAme.n hotA hai. bAharake kAyAse, AtmA mile aise puNya bAhya kAyAse nahI.n hotA. vah sab sAmAnya puNya hotA hai.

jinendra dev, guru, shAstra sarvotkR^iShTa hai. mokSha bhI bhagavAnane batAyA. bhagavAnane, gurune mokSha batAyA. mokSha bhI unakI sharaName.n hotA hai. puNya bhI unakI sharaName.n hotA hai aur mokSha bhI unakI sharaName.n hI hotA hai, kahI.n aur nahI.n hai. kisIko pUChanA hI nahI.n paDe. AtmAkI koI alag prakArakI hI anubhUti hotI hai, vah kisIse pUChanA nahI.n paDe. apanA AtmA hI use javAb detA hai. kisIko pUChanA nahI.n paDe. abhI to usake liye kitanI taiyArI ho, tab hotA hai.

abhI to AtmA koI apUrva vastu hai, use pahachAnaneke liye kitanA prayatna hotA hai tab hotA hai. a.ntarame.nse kitanA nirAlA ho, a.ntarame.nse kitanI use laganI lagI ho,

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AtmA-AtmAke sivA kahI.n chain nahI.n paDatI ho. mujhe AtmA hI chAhiye. sa.nsArakI orakI ruchi uTh jAya. bAharase bhale hI sa.nsArame.n baiThA ho, parantu sa.nsArakI ruchi uTh jAya. AtmA.. AtmAkI pukAr use hotI hai, tab jAkar AtmAkI anubhUti hotI hai. vaise anubhUti nahI.n ho sakatI.

a.ntar laganI lage, use AtmAke binA chain nahI.n paDe. use AtmA bhUlAyA nahI.n jAtA. mujhe merA AtmA chAhiye, dUsarA kuCh nahI.n chAhiye. utanI laganI lage, tab use AtmA prApta hotA hai. sa.nsArame.n kuCh pratikUlatA AyI ho, aisI sab, to vah kaise bhUlAyI nahI.n jAtI? vaise use AtmA bhUlAyA nahI.n jAtA. mujhe mere AtmAke sivA kahI.n chain nahI.n paDatI. har jagahase usakI ruchi uTh jAya. kahI.n bhI ras nahI.n Aye. tab use AtmA prApta hotA hai.

sa.nsArake bAhya kAyAme.n juDatA ho, to use sa.nsAr-laukik vyavahAr parase ruchi uTh jAtI hai aur ruchi AtmAkI or jAtI hai. usakA pUrA pariNaman palaT jAtA hai. usakI pUrI dishA palaT jAtI hai.

mumukShuH- sa.nsArame.n rahe.n, parantu usame.n koI bhI vyakti svaya.n AtmAko pahichAnakar mokSha bhI prApta kar sake?

samAdhAnaH- sa.nsArame.n rahakar AtmAkI svAnubhUti-A.nshik mukti ho sakatI hai. sa.nsArame.n rahakara. phir sa.npUrNatA prApta karaneke liye to use bAharase bhI tyAg ho jAtA hai. sa.nsArame.n rahakar pUrNa mokSha nahI.n hotA hai. parantu AtmAko pahachAn sakatA hai, AtmAkI svAnubhUti hotI hai, AtmAkA j~nAn prApta hotA hai. yahA.N tak hotA hai. bhagavakA abhAv hotA hai. siddha bhagavAn jaisI A.nshik anubhUti use hotI hai. lekin use mokSha, pUrNa mokSha kevalaj~nAn nahI.n hotA. bAharase sab tyAg ho jAtA hai, muni ban jAtA hai, tab pUrNa mokSha hotA hai.

mumukShuH- ... phir kaI bAr mai.n ... karatI hU.N.

samAdhAnaH- vah sab vyartha hai, niHsAr hai, niShphal hai moh rakhanA. jahA.N jAye vahA.N, devame.n gayA ho to devake parichayame.n paD jAy, manuShyame.n gayA to manuShyake jo parichIt ho.n usame.n paD jAtA hai. use to kuCh yAd nahI.n hotA. sab sambandha TUT jAya. yahA.N Ap rAg rakhate ho, utanA hI. rAg rakhanA bhI mushkil hai.

mumukShuH- .. kahate hai.n, devagatime.n ..

samAdhAnaH- sabako aisA nahI.n hotA. sab dekhe aur sabako rAg ho, aisA sabako nahI.n hotA. koI-koIko hotA hai.

mumukShuH- ..

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samAdhAnaH- abhI is pa.nchamakAlame.n aisA kuCh hotA hI nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- pa.nchendriy jIvako bachAnekA bhAv the, gati par to achChI hI asar paDatI hai na?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, usake bhAv achChe the. use bachAnekA bhAv ho, vah bhAv achChA thA.

mumukShuH- gati par usakI achChI asar huI ho.

samAdhAnaH- usaparase kah sake ki achChI huI ho. bachAnekA bhAv thA vah usakA bhAv achChA thA. bhAv koI burA nahI.n thA. achChA-purA..

mumukShuH- kisI bhI jIvakI gati hai, vah usake pUre jIvanake kArya par AdhAr rakhatI hai yA a.ntim bhAv par AdhAr rakhatI hai?

samAdhAnaH- pUre jIvanake kArya par bhI rakhatI hai aur a.ntim bhAv par bhI rakhatI hai. a.ntim bhAv kaise the,... vah to pUre jIvanakA jo hotA hai vah bhAv a.nt samayame.n Akar khaDe rahate hai.n.

mumukShuH- pUre jIvanakA ToTal a.ntame.n AtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- pUre jIvanakA ToTal a.ntame.n AtA hai. pahalese hI bachAnekA bhAv thA isaliye use bachAnekA bhAv hI AyA na? usakA svabhAv aisA thA ki mai.n bachAne jAU.N. isaliye use bachAnekA bhAv AyA. usake jIvaname.n bachAneke bhAv kiye the.

mumukShuH- dAnakA bhAv thA, garIbako madad karanekA bhAv thA.

samAdhAnaH- usake jo bhAv hote hai.n, vah bhAv Akar khaDe rahate hai.n. us bhAvame.n use puNya ba.NdhatA hai. usakI gati par kuCh asar nahI.n hotI. usakI gati achChI hotI hai. bhAv achChe ho to gati achChI hotI hai.