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mumukShuH- mAtAjI! dev-guru-shAstrakI bhaktikA to khyAl AtA thA ki bhagavAnakI isaprakAr bhakti (karanI), gurukI isaprakAr bhakti karanI. j~nAyakakI bhakti, Ap yah ek nayA hI prakAr do dinase samajhAte ho.

samAdhAnaH- usakI mahimA Aye binA Age nahI.n baDhA jA sakatA. mAtra shuShkatAse Age baDhe to vahA.N aTak jAtA hai. j~nAyakakI mahimA Aye to hI Age baDh sakatA hai. j~nAyakakI bhakti Aye to hI Age jA sakatA hai.

mumukShuH- Apane ek bAt bahut sundar kI thI, j~nAyakakA lakShaN ... mAtra shuShkatA ho jAyegI to prApta nahI.n hogA. mahimApUrvak..

samAdhAnaH- mahimApUrvak honA chAhiye. bahut log kahate hai.n na ki bhaktise.. andar j~nAyakakI bhakti AnI chAhiye, to Age jA sakatA hai. vah bhakti pahachAnakar, j~nAnapUrvakakI bhakti, j~nAyakako pahachAnakar bhakti Aye. j~nAyakakA lakShaN pahachAnakar, yahI j~nAyak hU.N, isaprakAr usakI bhakti AnI chAhiye.

mumukShuH- vachanAmR^itame.n yah bol thA, kal bAt kI usame.n, utanA khyAl nahI.n AtA thA, jitanA in do dino.nme.n AyA. us vachanAmR^itame.n-153 na.nbarake vachanAmR^itame.n tIn pa.nkti hai, j~nAyakake (dvAr par) Tahel lagAnI. usame.n dUsarI tarahase likhA hai. lekin kal Apane vistAr kiyA tab khyAl AyA ki isame.n itanA bharA hai.

mumukShuH- vachanAmR^itame.n likhA hai, vah dUsarI tarahase hai. j~nAyakakI Tahel lagAnI. rAjAke darabArame.n...

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, Tahel lagAnI, j~nAyakakI Tahel lagAnI. AtmAkA dravya kyA, AtmAkA guN kyA, AtmAkI paryAy kyA, sabakA vichAr karake svaya.n usakI mahimA lAye.

mumukShuH- mahimApUrvak bhakti AnI chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- mahimApUrvak AnI chAhiye.

mumukShuH- j~nAyakakI bhakti AnI chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- j~nAyakakI AnI chAhiye.

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mumukShuH- gurudev nishchayase a.ndhakArame.n prakAsharUp hI hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- a.ndhakArame.n prakAsh vyApta ho gayA, gurudev padhAre. gurudev is jinashAsaname.n birAjate the, vah ek prakAsh thA, ek prabhAt udit huA. sUrya samAn! lekin unho.nne jo vANIkI varShA kI hai, bahut mumukShuo.nke hR^idayame.n jo upadesh diyA, sabake hR^idayame.n ChA gayA hai. use svaya.n grahaN kare to bhI usame.nse kalyAN ho aisA hai.

mumukShuH- jaise padmana.ndI AchArya kahate hai.n na ki, aisI upadeshakI jamAvaT kI hai, usake Age tIn lokakA rAj..

samAdhAnaH- tIn lokakA rAj (tuchCha hai). usake Age mujhe tIn lok, mere gurune jo upadeshakI jamAvaT kI hai, usake sAmane mujhe ye tIn lokakA rAj priy nahI.n hai. is lokakA-pR^ithvIkA rAj to kyA, pR^ithvIkA rAj to nahI.n, apitu tIn lokakA rAj ho to bhI vah mujhe priy nahI.n hai. mujhe kuCh nahI.n chAhiye. mujhe is pa.nchamakAlame.n ek guru mile aur gurukA jo upadesh prApta huA, usake sAmane sab tuchCha hai. mujhe kuCh nahI.n chAhiye. jis upadeshakI jamAvaT gurudevane kI hai, aisI upadeshakI jamAvaT karanevAle is kAlame.n milanA bahut durlabh hai.

mumukShuH- sunate hI dharmakI pratIti hone lage.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, dharmakI pratIti hotI hai. unakI vANI aisI thI.

mumukShuH- Apake pAs Ate hai.n tab Apake mukhase nira.ntar j~nAyak.. j~nAyak.. j~nAyak..

samAdhAnaH- sab pUChate hai.n isaliye. karanA ek hI hai. chAro.n pahalUse jAnanA rahatA hai, karanA ek hI hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAyak aur guru mahimA.

samAdhAnaH- dravya-guN-paryAy, nishchayanay, vyavahAranay, dravyAnuyog, karaNAnuyog, charaNAnuyog, kathAnuyog-sabakA jAnanA hotA hai, jabatak nahI.n hotA tabatak jAnanA hotA hai, lekin karanA ek hI hai-j~nAyak-j~nAyakako pahachAnanA, j~nAyakako bhinna karanA. j~nAyak dravya svaya.n ekatvabuddhime.n rahA hai, us AkulatAme.n (rahA hai), usase bhinna (paDe), svaya.n bhinna hI hai, parantu bhrAntise ekatva ho rahA hai, use bhinna karake aur svaya.n apane svabhAvarUp pariNamit ho jAye. jo apanA svabhAv hai us rUp ho jAnA, vahI use karanA hai. jo apanA svabhAv hai, us rUp nahI.n rahatA hai aur vibhAvarUp pariNamatA hai. nij svabhAvarUp ho jAnA vahI ek karanA hai. j~nAyakakA j~nAyakarUp ho jAnA. vah kaise ho? usakI mahimA Aye to hotA hai, use pahachAne to hotA hai. use pahachAne, usakI or ruchi lage, us rUp jIvan kare, usakI mahimA Aye to hotA hai. usame.n thake nahI.n hotA hai. bAharame.n laukikakA ek hI kArya karanA ho to usame.n aise hI

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ghUTatA rahatA hai, rasapUrvak karatA rahatA hai. to is j~nAyakame.n thakanA nahI.n chAhiye, usakA ras kam nahI.n honA chAhiye, usame.n rukhApan nahI.n AnA chAhiye, to vah Age baDhe.

ek nirNay use andarase (karanA chAhiye). bhale sachchA nirNay to bAdame.n hotA hai, samyagdarshan (hotA hai tab), parantu pahale use aisA dR^iDh nirNay honA chAhiye ki karane jaisA to yahI hai, sArabhUt to yahI hai, bAkI sab niHsAr hai. aisA use andarase AnA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- Ap ek jagah kahate ho ki shAshvat vahI.n chalane jaisA hai.

samAdhAnaH- shAshvat vahI.n jAye, phir bAhar hI nahI.n AnA paDe. jo shAshvat AtmA hai, paryAy bhI us or lIn hokar Age baDhanepar usame.n samAkar bAhar hI.n nahI.n Aye. "samajyA te samAI gayA'. samA jAte hai.n, bas, phir bAhar nahI.n Ate. kevalaj~nAnI samA gaye, sAdhanA baDhate-baDhate. samyagdarshan aur munidashAme.n samAkar bAhar (Ate the), pUrNa samA gaye. "samajyA te samAI gayA'.

mumukShuH- yah bhI sa.nskAr ekabAr javAb de.nge, aisA lagatA hai. abhI jo sa.nskAr paDate hai.n, vah sa.nskAr ekabAr avashya javAb de.nge.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevane jo deshanA dI, vah jo sa.nskAr paDe, andarase svaya.nkI bhAvanA ho, svaya.n us or jAtA ho, svaya.nkI pariNati use chAhatI ho, use pragaT hue binA nahI.n rahatA. svaya.n hai, dUsarA koI nahI.n hai. svaya.nko paradravyakI ichChA ho to paradravya svaya.nke hAthakI bAt nahI.n hai. ye to svadravya svaya.n hI hai. svaya.n hI use chAhatA ho, svadravyako, vah pragaT hue binA rahe hI nahI.n. bAra.nbAr usake sa.nskAr grahaN kare.

ek shubhabhAv Aye to usakA aisA puNyaba.ndhan hotA hai ki jo par bAhar hai, jinendra dev, guru aur shAstra bhI prApta ho jAte hai.n. to phir ye j~nAyakadev kyo.n nahI.n prApta ho.nge?

mumukShuH- Apane kahA hai na, bhAvanA ho to phale binA rahatI hI nahI.n.

samAdhAnaH- bhAvanA phale binA rahatI hI nahI.n.

mumukShuH- ek shubhabhAvame.n parapadArtha nahI.n mil sakatA, vah bhI prApta ho jAtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- vah bhI prApta hotA hai, vah apane hAthakI bAt nahI.n hai. to bhI jo svaya.nkI andarase bhAvanA hai, vah bhAvanA.. shubhabhAv aisI jAtike hote hai.n ki jinendra dev, guru aur shAstra Adi sab prApta hote hai.n. laukik ichChA ho vah alag bAt hai. usame.n pApakA kAraN banatA hai.

mumukShuH- vahA.N svaya.nkA adhikAr bhI nahI.n hai.

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samAdhAnaH- vah to nahI.n prApta ho, aisA hotA hai.

mumukShuH- bahinashrI kahate hai.n ki isame.n bhI adhikAr nahI.n hai, phir bhI shubhabhAv..

samAdhAnaH- isame.n bhI adhikAr to nahI.n hai, to bhI..

mumukShuH- prApta hotA hai. to j~nAyak kyo.n nahI.n?

mumukShuH- tU pAram hai aur paramAtmA nahI.n kahate hai.n, tU paramAtmA hai aur paramAtmA kahate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- pAmar nahI.n hai AtmA. gurudev to kahate hai.n, tU paramAtmA hai. gurudev to sabako bhagavAn hI kahate the. tU pAmar hai, aisA to paryAyame.n kahaneme.n AtA hai, dravya pAmar nahI.n hai. gurudev kahate hai.n, dravya to terA pUrNa bharA hai. paramAtmA hI ho. paramAtmAme.nse paramAtmA hotA hai. paryAy apekShAse pAmar hai.

bhAvanAvAlA aisA kahatA hai ki mai.n pAmar hU.N. prabhu! mujh pAmarako Apane prabhu banAyA, aisA kahe. parantu apaneme.n prabhutA bharI hai, usame.nse prabhutA AtI hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAname.n aisA vivek sAthame.n rakhanA chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- j~nAname.n vivek Aye binA rahatA hI nahI.n. svaya.nkI pariNatime.n jo lAbh ho usaprakArase, aisI namratA Aye binA rahatI hI nahI.n. paryAyame.n adhUrApan hai, use dekhatA hai ki paryAyame.n adhurApan hai. dravyadR^iShTise dravya paripUrNa hai, parantu paryAyame.n adhurApan hai, isaliye pAmar hU.N, aisA kahe. bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT ho, samyagdarshan ho to bhI kahe ki mai.n pAmar hU.N. abhI sAdhakadashA munidashA nahI.n hai. gR^ihasthAshramame.n hai. prabhu! mai.n pAmar hU.N. paryAyame.n abhI asthiratA hai, use Age karake kahatA hai. svAnubhUtike pa.nth par svAnubhUti pragaT huI, to bhI paryAy apekShAse aisA kahate hai.n.

dravyakI apekShAse kahate hai.n ki mai.n prabhu hU.N. sab apekShA samajhanI hai. apekShA anusAr usakI pariNati.. jaisA vastukA svarUp hai aisA samajhanA hai. usI apekShAse. jaisA vastukA svarUp hai, usI anusAr apekShA hotI hai. aisI hI usakI apekShA hotI hai. us apekShAse usakA j~nAn vaisA hI kArya kare, jaisA vastukA svarUp hai, aisA j~nAn, aisI sAdhanA. dravya par dR^iShTi aur j~nAn sab vivek karatA hai. jaisA vastukA svarUp hai, usI anusAr usakA muktikA mArga, sAdhakakA mArga usaprakArase chalatA hai.

vivek yAnI mAtra vivek karanA hai aisA nahI.n hai. usame.n usakI vaisI dravya aur paryAyakI pariNati hai. paryAyame.n adhurApan hai aur dravya pUrNa hai, aisA vastukA svarUp hai. isaliye ab j~nAn-samyakaj~nAn karatA hai.

mumukShuH- vahI vivek hai.

samAdhAnaH- vah vivek hai.

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... alpa j~nAname.n bhI nakkI kar sake aisA hai. jo gurudevane samajhAyA hai, tattvakI bAt, bahut apUrva mArga samajhAyA hai. alpa j~nAname.n bhI mai.n bhagavAn hU.N, aisA nakkI kar sakatA hai. vichAr karake jise jij~nAsA laganI ho vah vichAr kar sakatA hai. jo mUl tattva anAdiana.nt shAshvat hai, usame.n koI vibhAv nahI.n ho sakatA, vah to shuddha hai. usame.n par nimittase jo vibhAv rAg-dveSh Adi hote hai.n, vah apanA svarUp nahI.n hai. jisase duHkh ho, jisase svaya.nko AkUlatA ho, vah apanA mUl svabhAv nahI.n hai. vah to par nimittase svaya.nke puruShArthakI mandatAse hotA hai. isaliye jo AkUlatA hotI hai, vah apanA (mUl svarUp nahI.n hai).

lekin jo svarUp sukharUp ho, jaise svaya.nkA j~nAnasvarUp hai, vah j~nAn jAnanevAlA hai, jAnanevAlA hai vah anAdiana.nt hai. vah jAnanasvarUp hai vah use duHkharUp nahI.n hai. jAnanevAleme.n sukh, Ananda Adi ananta guN bhare hai.n. aur jo anAdiana.nt tattva hai, usame.n jo j~nAn hai vah pUrNa hotA hai. jo jAnanevAlA hai, usakI koI sImA nahI.n hotI. jo jAnanevAlA hai vah pUrNa jAnanevAlA hai. jo tattva hai vah pUrNa svabhAvase bharapUr hI hotA hai. usame.n koI apUrNatA (nahI.n hai). svataHsiddha AtmAme.n apUrNatA hotI hI nahI.n. pUrNa bhagavAn jaisA hai.

jaise agnime.n uShNatA hai, to usakA uShNa svabhAv hai. yah dR^iShTA.nt hai. pAnIkA shItal svabhAv hai, to usakI shItalatA kitanI hai? usakI koI maryAdA nahI.n hai. uShNatA- jo uShNa hai vah uShNa (behad hI hotI hai). jo jAnanevAlA hai, vah svaya.n jAnanevAlA hI hai. pUrNa jAnanevAlA hai. usame.n itanA jAne aur itanA nahI.n jAne aisI alpatA usame.n nahI.n hai. parantu vah vibhAvakI or gayA hai, isaliye j~nAnakI shakti aTak gayI hai. bAkI mUl shaktime.n pUrNa bharA huA hai.

yadi rAg-dveSh ChUTakar, ekatvabuddhi ChUTakar, usase svaya.n bhinna hokar j~nAyakakI pariNati pragaT ho, usakI shraddhA-pratIt ho aur usame.n lInatA kare to usakA j~nAnasvabhAv pUrNa pragaT hotA hai. j~nAnase pUrNa hai, usI tarah Anandase pUrNa hai, aise ananta guNo.nse pUrNa hai. use sImA nahI.n hotI. jo tattva svaya.n svataHsiddha hai, jise kisIne banAyA nahI.n hai, vah pUrNa hI hotA hai, usame.n alpatA nahI.n hotI. svaya.n vichAr kare, usakI pratIt kare, sUkShmatAse vichAr kare ki vah pUrNa hI hai, bhagavAn jaisA AtmA hai. jaise bhagavAn hai.n, vaisA svaya.n hai. pratyek AtmA siddha bhagavAn samAn hI hai. usame.n apUrNatA nahI.n hai.

... jAnA paDe, sukh yA Ananda bAhar lene jAnA paDe, use tattvakI pUrNatA nahI.n kahate. svaya.n tattva svataHsiddha pUrNa hI hotA hai. usame.n sab pUrNa bharA hai. tattvakA sUkShma

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dR^iShTise vichAr kare to samajhame.n Aye aisA hai. tattva hai vah kabhI nAsh nahI.n hotA. vah kisIse utpanna nahI.n huA hai, jo kisIse nAsh nahI.n hotA. aisA pUrNa j~nAnasvabhAv j~nAyak, aisA Ananda svabhAv, aisA chaitanyadev paripUrNa hai. vah bhagavAn hI hai. paripUrNa shakti (sa.npanna) svaya.n bhagavAn hai.

usame.n jisame.n vibhAv nahI.n hai, jisame.n malinatA nahI.n hai, jisame.n apUrNatA nahI.n hai. usakI j~nAnashakti bAhar jAtI hai isaliye aTakI huI dikhAyI detI hai, bAkI paripUrNa (hai), nij svabhAvase paripUrNa bhagavAn jaisA hai. chaitanyasvarUp bhagavAn hai.n, vaisA hI svaya.n hai. jaise siddha bhagavAn haiai.n, vaisA hI svaya.n hai. pratyek AtmA samAn hai.n.

mumukShuH- Alamban lenA mAne kyA?

samAdhAnaH- Alamban yAnI usakI dR^iShTi, usapar dR^iShTi denI. vah svaya.n hI hai. svaya.n hI svaya.nkA Alamban karanA. svaya.n hI hai, use Alamban lene jAnA nahI.n paDatA, vah to svataHsiddha svaya.n hI hai. svaya.nko apanA Alamban kaise lenA? jo dR^iShTi bAhar hai, vah dR^iShTi bAharame.n jaise yah sharIr mai.n hU.N, vibhAv mai.n hU.N, aisA ho gayA hai. dR^iShTi palaTakar mai.n ye nahI.n hU.N, mai.n to shuddhAtmA hU.N, isaprakAr dR^iShTi usapar sthApit karanI ki ye chaitanya hai vahI mai.n hU.N. use shuddhAtmAko grahaN kiyA aisA kahaneme.n AtA hai. use grahaN kiyA, usakA Alamban liyA.

mumukShuH- ... abhiprAyakA viShay kahate hai.n? dhyAnakA viShay kahate hai.n? ki j~nAnakA viShay hai?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAn aur dR^iShTi dono.n usame.n Ate hai.n. dhyAn to sAthame.n (hotA hai), lInatA kare to dhyAn hotA hai. .. sAmAnya svaya.n .. hai, j~nAn sAth rahatA hai. j~nAname.n visheSh jAnanA hotA hai. dR^iShTi ek abhedako grahaN kare ki mai.n yah AtmA hU.N. yah astitva hai vah mai.n hU.N, isaprakAr grahaN kare. dR^iShTike sAth j~nAn A jAtA hai. lekin jo visheSh jAnatA hai vah j~nAn hai. dR^iShTi visheSh nahI.n jAnatI. dR^iShTi sAmAnya jAnatI hai. aur dR^iShTi shraddhAkA viShay hai. shraddhA, usame.n-dR^iShTime.n shraddhA hotI hai.

mumukShuH- koI-koI use a.ndhI kahate hai.n, yah bAt barAbar nahI.n hai?

samAdhAnaH- a.ndhI yAnI shraddhAkA viShay hai, us apekShAse a.ndhI. dR^iShTi kuCh jAnatI nahI.n, parantu usake sAth j~nAn juDA hI rahatA hai. j~nAn aur dR^iShTi dono.n alag nahI.n hote. dono.n sAth hI rahate hai.n. dR^iShTi sAmAnya par jAtI hai isaliye use a.ndhI kahate hai.n. vah bhed (nahI.n karatI), bhinna-bhinna bhed kare yA paryAyako bhinna karake nahI.n jAnatI. isaliye use a.ndhI kahate hai.n.

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mumukShuH- .. usame.n sha.nkArahit hotA hai, ...

samAdhAnaH- pahale nirNay hotA hai vah kachchA yAnI use sha.nkA nahI.n hai. ekadam samIpame.n jise svAnubhUti honevAlI hai, use pahale jo nirNay hotA hai, use kachchA sha.nkAvAlA nahI.n kahate. parantu abhI use svAnubhUti nahI.n huyI hai, isaliye use vyavahAr kahaneme.n AtA hai. shraddhAkA bal jo anubhUtike bAd jo shraddhAkA bal AtA hai, vaisA bal nahI.n hai. lekin vah sha.nkAyukta nahI.n hai. usake balame.n kuCh a.ntar hai. sha.nkAyukta nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- vachanAmR^itake bolame.n hai, pakkA nirNay anubhavake pahale bhI ho sakatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, ho sakatA hai, pakkA ho sakatA hai, lekin jo pariNatipUrvakakA nirNay (hotA hai), vah alag hai. usakI apekShAse usakA bal kam hai, bhale hI pakkA kahe.n to bhI. anishchit nahI.n hai, aisA nirNay nahI.n hai, anishchit hai aisA nahI.n hai. pakkA kahaneme.n AtA hai, parantu pariNatikI apekShAse, jo sAkShAt anubhUti hokar jo pratIti hotI hai, us pratItikA bal kuCh alag hI hotA hai. ise vyavahAr kahate hai.n.

mumukShuH- ...

samAdhAnaH- dev-guru-shAstrakA nirNay pakkA aur mai.n yah j~nAyak hU.N, vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n, yah sab nirNay use pakkA hotA hai. nirNay pakkA hai, lekin pariNati pragaT nahI.n huyI hai.

mumukShuH- dravyakI svata.ntratA bhI use barAbar... dravya, kShetra, kAl, bhAvase astirUp hai, paradravyase nAstirUp hai. aisA honese jab sabjIko ChUrIse kATate hai.n, tab ChUrIse TUkaDe nahI.n hote hai.n, aisA jo nirNay, isaprakArakA nirNay anubhav pUrva use vikalpAtmakame.n pakkA honA chAhiye?

samAdhAnaH- pratyek dravya svata.ntra hai, aisA use A jAye, usame.n sabhI pahalU A jAte hai.n. phir bAr-bAr usake vikalpa karane nahI.n baiThatA ki yah ChUrIse hote hai.n, yA sabjI bhinna hai aur ChUrIke sabhI pudagal bhinna-bhinna hai.n, aisA bAr-bAr vikalpa (nahI.n karatA), parantu use pratyek dravya svata.ntra hai.n, aisI shraddhA use ho gayI hai.

mumukShuH- vikalpakI bAt nahI.n hai, lekin use nirNay to...

samAdhAnaH- svata.ntra hai, koI kisIkA kuCh nahI.n kar sakatA. mai.n merA kar sakatA hU.N, dUsare pudagal pudagalakA (kArya karatA hai). pratyek pudagal-pudagal svata.ntra hai. yah sab use baiTh gayA hai. mAtra ekadUsareke nimittase hote hai.n, vah sab nimitta-naimittik sambandhase hotA hai. yah sab use baiTh gayA hai.

mumukShuH- aisA bhAvame.n barAbar baiThe to vah Age baDh sakatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- use bhAvame.n A jAnA chAhiye. pratyek dravyakI svata.ntratA AnI chAhiye.

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mai.n svata.ntra aur pudagal svata.ntra, itanA to A jAnA chAhiye. pudgagal dravya mujhe kuCh kar sakatA hai aur mai.n use kuCh kar sakatA hU.N, aisI buddhi hai tabatak Age nahI.n baDh sakatA. vah mereme.n kuCh kar sake yA mai.n usame.n kuCh kar sakU.N, aisI andar yadi kisI prakArakI mandatA ho to vah Age nahI.n baDh sakatA. use jor AnA chAhiye ki mai.n svaya.n svata.ntra hU.N. pudagal merA kuCh nahI.n kar sakatA. aisA jor use andar AnA chAhiye.