Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 10.

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mumukShuH- dev-guru-shAstrake viShayame.n jo nirNay hotA hai aur anubhUtike bAd dev- guru-shAstrakA nirNay, usame.n to pharka nahI.n paDatA.

samAdhAnaH- .. nirNay hotA hai, parantu anubhUtike bAd jo usakI lAIn hai vah alag hai.

mumukShuH- dev-guru-shAstrake viShayame.n bhI..

samAdhAnaH- sab alag hai. bhinna paD jAye aur bAdame.n usakI jo pratIt hotI hai, dev-guru-shAstra par jo bhAv Aye, vah bhinna rahakar kaise AtI hai, vah to shraddhA joradAr hotI hai. vah sab bhinna pariNatime.n AtA hai, vah alag kahaneme.n AtA hai. pahale AtA to hai.

jo dravyali.ngI muni hotA hai, use dev-guru-shAstrakI aisI shraddhA hotI hai ki chalAyamAn karane Aye to bhI chalit nahI.n ho. Uparase indra Aye, chAhe jitane upasarga, pariShah Aye, aisI usakI shraddhA hotI hai. yadyapi use Age jAneme.n to usame.n usane mAn liyA hai, parantu aisI shraddhA hotI hai. dev-guru-shAstrame.n aisA aDig hotA hai. aur ye jij~nAsu hai vah bhI aDig hotA hai.

bhedaj~nAnapUrvakakI dhArAse jo AtA hai, usakI lAIn alag hai. use jo shubhabhAv AtA hai, usakI ras-sthiti hotI hai vah alag hotI hai. usakI sthiti kam hotI hai aur ras adhik hotA hai. bhedaj~nAnapUrvak aisA hotA hai. (jij~nAsuko) bhedaj~nAn huA nahI.n hai, bhale hI bhAvanA hai. lekin usame.n abhI ye sab pheraphAr nahI.n hote hai.n. usakI pariNati nyArI ho gayI hai to ras, sthiti sabame.n pheraphAr ho jAtA hai. aur shubhabhAv aise uchcha hote hai.n to bhI sthiti lambI nahI.n paDatI. ras adhik hotA hai.

a.ntarase sarvasvatA nahI.n hotI, parantu bhakti Adi sab bahut AtI hai, aisA dikhAyI de. pratham bhUmikAme.n use bhakti Aye. dev-guru-shAstrake liye upasarga, pariShah sahan karaneke liye taiyAr ho, aisA hotA hai. use aisA hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- itane shAstra ka.nThastha kiye, tattvArtha sUtra yA (anya), vah j~nAn ho gayA, aisA sab mAnate the. andar AtmAme.n sab bharA hai, AtmAke dravya-guN-paryAy aur


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AtmAme.n koI apUrva Ananda aur anupan svAnubhUti andar hotI hai, vah kisane batAyA? vah gurudevane hI batAyA hai. samayasArake rahasya kisane khole hai.n? gurudevane hI khole hai.n.

mumukShuH- log bhaDake to shurUAtame.n gurudev ek-do din nahI.n le.

samAdhAnaH- .. svaya.n birAjate the. unakI vANI... aur jo abhI ho rahA hai vah gurudevake prabhAvame.n hI ho rahA hai, aisA hI mAnanA chAhiye. vahI AtmArthItAkI shobhA hai aur vahI AtmAkA prayojan hai. dUsarA sab kuCh svaya.n kare vah kuCh nahI.n. jo karatA hai vah svaya.nke liye karatA hai. sachchI shraddhA ho, j~nAtAkI dhArA ho, usake sAth virakti ho, j~nAyakatA pragaT ho aur Asrav nahI.n ChUTe aisA nahI.n banatA. j~nAyakatA pragaT huyI use kahe.n ki use vij~nAnaghan vastu ... j~nAyakatA ho usake sAth abhI asthiratA shubhabhAv hotA hai. usakI bhUmikAke yogya, bhUmikA anusAr sachche dev-guru-shAstrakI bhakti, kAryo, us anusAr use amuk prakArake shubhabhAv sAthame.n hote hI hai.n.

.. AtmAkI bahut bAt Aye, shAstrame.n-samayasAr Adime.n. yah manuShyajIvan mushkilase mile, usame.n ye sab yog milanA mahAmushkil hai. gurudevane jo mArga batAyA vah mArga kaise grahaN ho? vah karanA hai. yah sharIr padArtha bhinna hai, usake dravya-guN-paryAy bhinna hai, AtmAke dravya-guN-paryAy bhinna hai aur andar vibhAv hotA hai vah svaya.nkA svabhAv nahI.n hai. vah bhinna AtmA kaise jAnaneme.n Aye vahI nishchayase karanA hai. samayasAr paDh le, svAdhyAy kar le, lekin karanA to a.ntarame.n hai. nishchayase jab a.ntarame.n Utare aur svaya.nkI pariNati kaise palaTe to bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. sIkhe vah ThIk hai ki svaya.nko jAnakArI prApta hotI hai ki muktikA mArga kyA hai, parantu a.ntarame.n utAre to usame.n bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. andar AtmAkI prApti hotI hai. manuShyajIvaname.n vahI karanA hai.

AtmAkI ruchi kaise pragaT ho? nishchayase to vah karanA hai. bAkI sab bAharakA hai. a.ntarame.n hove vah nishchay hai. ana.ntakAlame.n kiyA hai, sab kiyA, svaya.n ana.nt bAr muni huA, sab huA lekin AtmAko pahachAnA nahI.n. AtmA kaise pahachAname.n Aye? satya to vah hai. dev-guru-shAstra (ke prati) shubhabhAvame.n unakI bhakti (AtI hai), lekin a.ntarame.n AtmA kaise pahachAname.n Aye? AtmA bhinna paDe to bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. AtmA jAnanevAlA j~nAyakasvabhAv hai. andarase pahachAne. mAtra buddhise vichAr kare vah alag hai aur a.ntarame.n pahachAname.n Aye, to a.ntarase bhavakA abhAv hotA hai. bAharase nahI.n hotA. a.ntar pariNati palaTe to hotA hai.

jagatame.n sarvotkR^iShTa (hai). jinapratimA jin sArakhI. jinendra bhagavAnake darshan ho aur andar AtmAke vichArase sarva duHkh khatma ho jAte hai.n. jinendra dev sarvotkR^iShTa hai.n. shubhabhAvame.n ek jinendra dev aur guru, jinendra devake Ashrayase aur andar AtmAkA Ashray lenese


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sab duHkh (Tal jAte hai.n). anAdikAlakA vibhAv Tal jAtA hai to sab duHkh Tal jAte hai.n. isaliye AtmAkA Ashray lenA aur bAharase jinendra dev, guru aur shAstrakA Ashray, vah satya Ashray hai. jinendra dev jagatame.n sarvotkR^iShTa hai.n, guru jo sAdhanA kare, gurudev is jagatame.n pa.nchamakAlame.n sarvotkR^iShTa the. tattvakI bAt Aye, vah sab sarvotkR^iShTa hai, usakA Ashray lenA aur andar AtmAkA Ashray lenA.

yah vichAr karanA, AtmA j~nAyak hai. usame.n koI paravastu to usakI hai hI nahI.n, ye sharIr bhI usakA nahI.n hai, to koI vastu kahA.N svaya.nkI honevAlI hai? aur huI bhI nahI.n hai. usase atya.nt bhinna hai. usake dravya-guN-paryAy bhinna, svaya.nke dravya-guN- paryAy bhinna. sharIrake sAth bhI jIvako sambandha nahI.n hai to anya kisIke sAth kahA.N- se sambandha hogA? andar vibhAv svabhAv bhI svaya.nkA nahI.n hai. vah svaya.nkA svabhAv nahI.n hai. svaya.n akelA j~nAyak hai, lekin j~nAyak mahimAse chaitanyadev hai, usame.n use andar ruchi lage aur Ananda ho aisA AtmA hai. vahI nishchayase karanA hai. andar upayog nahI.n Aye to bAharame.n jinendra dev-guru aur shAstrakA Ashray, vah jIvako kalyANakArI aur ma.ngalakArI hai aur vahI sukhakA kAraN hai.

(ananta kAl) gayA usame.n janma-maraN karate-karate yah manuShyabhav milatA hai, usame.n aise gurudev mile to vah ek Ashray lene jaisA hai. vah dharmakA Ashray vah satya Ashray hai. Apane to bahut samajhA hai, Apako bahut ruchi hai, gurudevakA bahut sunA hai to phir vahI karane jaisA hai. vah bhUlanA hI hogA. (duHkh) lage to palaT denA, chittako (badal denA). andar AtmA pahachAname.n nahI.n Aye aur usame.n nahI.n muDe to bAharase jinendra dev, guru aur shAstrame.n chitta lagAye.

AtmA sabase bhinna j~nAyak shuddhAtmA (hai). shuddhAtmA mahimAkA bhaNDAr hai, ana.nt guNo.nse bharapUr hai, usakA smaraN karanA, usakA svabhAv shAstrame.n (kahe) tattvakA vichAr karanA, vah karanA hai.

sabako (laganI) lagAyI ki AtmA alag hai. gurudevase koI apUrvatA sabako lagI. ab to gurudevane jo kahA vahI kahanA hai. bAkI sabame.n gurudev jo apUrvatA le Aye hai.n, pUrA parivartan, koI alag hI parivartan (ho gayA). sthAnakavAsI, derAvAsI, diga.nbaro.n sabame.n koI alag hI prakArakA parivartan le Aye. bahut kiyA hai. unhe.n kisIke sAth kI jarUrat nahI.n paDatI, ve to mahApuruSh the.

mumukShuH- prabhAvanA baDhatI jAtI hai.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevakA prabhAv hai. pUrA parivartan karake gaye hai.n. andar jinho.nne grahaN kiyA hai usakI prabhAvanA hotI hai. pUrA parivartan gurudev le Aye. sab koI kriyAme.n


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paDe the, koI kahI.n the, koI bAharase dharma mAnate the, bAharase shuddhi-ashuddhi paDI thI, koI shAstra paDhe, sIkh le, paDh le to dharma ho jAye athavA upavAs yA dUsarA kuCh kar le athavA (bAhya) shuddhi-ashuddhi Adi anek prakArame.n paDe the. gurudevane pUrA parivartan kar diyA. bhAvanApradhAna. kriyAse kuCh nahI.n hai, gurudevane a.ntar dR^iShTi karavAyI.

mumukShuH- pratham hI pravachan sune aur dUsare dinase digambara.

samAdhAnaH- sab log vichAr karane lage ki ye kuCh alag kahate hai.n. dravyadR^iShTikI pradhAnatApUrvak andar sAthame.n sab AtA thA, chAro.n pahalUse kahate the. .. pUrvak andar vairAgya, mahimA, bhakti Adi sab unakI vANIme.n AtA thA.

... dravyadR^iShTikI mukhyatApUrvak sab use khyAl hotA hai, asthiratA Adi sabakA khyAl ho to sAdhanA hotI hai. ... mukhya rakhakar bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA, usame.n alpa asthiratAkA use khyAl hai, to use sAdhan (hotI hai). kaChu hai hI nahI.n, aisA mAn le to dravyadR^iShTi hI samyak nahI.n hotI.

mumukShuH- shuShkatA A jAye. uttaraH- shuShkatA A jAye. dravyadR^iShTikI pradhAnatApUrvak j~nAname.n sabakA khyAl hotA hai.

mumukShuH- dravyadR^iShTikI pradhAnatApUrvak j~nAname.n sab khyAl hai.

samAdhAnaH- sabakA khyAl hai.

mumukShuH- asthiratAkA bhI khyAl hai.

samAdhAnaH- khyAl hai. kamI hai, adhUrApan hai, sab khyAl hai. abhI karanekA bAkI hai, abhI lInatA bAkI hai, sabakA khyAl hai. dravyadR^iShTise bhale dravya shuddha hai, aise dravyadR^iShTikI pradhAnatA honeke bAvajUd paryAyame.n ashuddhatA hai usakA khyAl hai. gurudevakI vANIme.n sab AtA thA, chAro.n pahalU.

mumukShuH- ...

samAdhAnaH- abhI unako rAg hai, us prakArakA prashasta rAg hai, bhakti hai, Aye binA nahI.n rahatA. shubharAg hai dev-guru-shAstra(kA), jAnate hai.n. bhedaj~nAn hai ki yah merA svarUp nahI.n hai, rAg hai. lekin bhUmikA hai isaliye AtA hai. jAnate hai.n, parantu sAdhanA abhI bAkI hai, isaliye puruShArtha Dor bhI sAthame.n hai. maryAdA ChoDakar bAhar nahI.n jAtA. ekatva nahI.n hotA, ekatva nahI.n hotA, vaisI AkUlatA nahI.n hai, phir bhI khyAl hai ki AtA hai. svaya.n bhinna rahatA hai. asthiratA hai usakA khyAl hai. khyAl hai aur puruShArthakI Dor hAthame.n hai. puruShArthakI Dor ChoDate nahI.n hai. sahaj dashA hotI hai. j~nAyakakI j~nAtAdhArA sahaj dravyadR^iShTi chAlU rahatI honepar bhI sAthame.n puruShArthakI Dor hAthame.n hai. maryAdAse


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adhik bAhar nahI.n jAtA. usakI samyagdarshanakI bhUmikA hai, us anusAr (rAg AtA hai). pa.ncham guNasthAn vAle unakI bhUmikA anusAr puruShArthakI Dor (hotI hai), Age baDhate jAte hai.n. ChaThThe-sAtave.n guNasthAn vAle a.ntarmuhUrta-a.ntarmuhUrtame.n svarUpame.n lIn hote hai.n, to bhI bAhar Ate hai.n tab unhe dev-guru-shAstrake shubh pariNAm Ate hai.n, shAstra likhate hai.n. padmana.ndI AchAryako bhaktike pariNAm Aye to bhaktike shlok likhe. anek prakArake shAstra likhate hai.n. a.ntarmuhUrta-a.ntarmuhUrtame.n andar jAte hai.n.

mumukShuH- pariNati parame.n jAye to khed hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- khed hotA hai. parantu jAnate hai.n ki mere puruShArthakI mandatA hai. isame.n juDanA hotA hai, mujhe to pUrNa honA hai, to bhI puruShArthakI Dor hAthamee.n hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAtAdhArA to aviratarUpase chAlU rahatI hai. phir bhI jAnate hai.n aur puruShArthakI Dor bhI unake hAthame.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- j~nAtAdhArA chAlU hai to bhI asthiratAkA khyAl (hai), puruShArthakI Dor hAthame.n hai. maryAdAse adhik bAhar nahI.n jAtA.

mumukShuH- j~nAnIkA hR^iday Apane khol diyA.

mumukShuH- jAnate hai.n, phir bhI maryAdAme.n..

samAdhAnaH- vah to use vikalpapUrvak hai to bhI usakI maryAdA bAhar pariNati nahI.n hotI. j~nAn .. vah to bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA hai, puruShArthakI Dor (hAthame.n hai). jise AtmAkA prayojan sAdhanA hai, usakI amuk prakArake maryAdA bAhar nahI.n jAte. use vibhAv pariNati chAhiye hI nahI.n. AtmArthIkA jo prayojan hai, AtmAko sAdhanA hai, AtmAkI laganI lagI hai, vibhAv pariNatime.n use ekatva ChUTA nahI.n hai, to bhI vah maryAdA bAhar nahI.n jAtA. to hI AtmAko sAdh sakatA hai, nahI.n to kahA.N-se sAdhe? to hI use AtmA mile, nahI.n to kahA.N-se mile?

mumukShuH- AtmArthI mumukShu bhI apanI maryAdAke bAhar nahI.n jAtA. samAdhAnaH- tabhI usakI pAtratA kahI jAtI hai. nahI.n to AtmAkA prayojan hai to AtmA kahA.N-se mile? amuk pAtratA to honI hI chAhiye.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!
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