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mumukShuH- dIkShA lenese pahale jAtismaraN hotA hai. vairAgyakA nimitta banatA hogA yA aur kuCh?
samAdhAnaH- unhe.n vikalpa AtA hai. dIkShAke pahale jAtismaraN hotA hI hai. aisA niyam hai. nimitta kuCh bhI bane, parantu andar hotA hai. dIkShA bhAv utpanna hote hai.n isaliye jAtismaraN hotA hai.
mumukShuH- jAtismaraN vairAgyakI vR^iddhikA (kAraN banatA hai)?
samAdhAnaH- vairAgya-vR^iddhikA kAraN banatA hai. shAstrame.n AtA hai na? vairAgya-vR^iddhikA kAraN banatA hai. pUrvake duHkho.nko yAd karake bahut jIvo.nko vairAgya AtA hai. bhavo.nko yAd karake bahut jIvo.nko vairAgya AtA hai. vairAgyakA nimitta banatA hai. jo us or muDe use vairAgyakA kAraN banatA hai. AtmAkI or muDanevAlA hotA hai, use vairAgyakA kAraN banatA hai.
mumukShuH- jAtismaraN AtmaprAptime.n nimitta banatA hogA?
samAdhAnaH- jo AtmAkI or muDanevAlA ho use nimitta kahaname.n AtA hai. shAstrame.n bahut kAraN Ate hai.n na? anek jAtake kAraN Ate hai.n. jAtismaraN, amuk devakI R^iddhi, yah-vah, aise bahut kAraN Ate hai.n. usame.n ek jAtismaraN bhI kAraN AtA hai. jIv apanI or muDe use kAraN banatA hai. sabako kAraN bane hI aisA nahI.n hotA. sabako vairAgyakA kAraN bane, aisA bhI nahI.n hotA. laukikame.n bahuto.nko hotA hai, sabako hotA hai, aisA nahI.n. jo AtmAkI or muDanevAlA hotA hai, use kAraN banatA hai. bhavA.ntaro.nko yAd karake jise vairAgya AnA hotA hai, use vairAgyakA kAraN banatA hai. is jIvane ananta janma-maraN kiye hai.n. yah jIv ananta paribhramaN karatA A rahA hai. AtmA shAshvat hai. jo AtmArthI apanI or muDanevAlA hotA hai, use kAraN banatA hai.
mumukShuH- tIrtha.nkar bhagavAnako janmase avadhij~nAn to hotA hai.
samAdhAnaH- hA.N, avadhij~nAn hotA hai, phir jAtismaraN hotA hai.
mumukShuH- jAtismaraNase bhI visheSh spaShTatA avadhij~nAname.n hotI hai?
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samAdhAnaH- avadhij~nAn to pratyakSha hai, phir bhI jAtismaraN hotA hai. bhagavAnako to sab j~nAn pragaT hote hai.n.
mumukShuH- mAtAjI! samakit jyAdA sAl Tike to gADh hotA jAtA hai. vaisA jAtismaraNaj~nAn jyAdA sAl Tike to usame.n koI pheraphAr hotA hai?
samAdhAnaH- samyagdarshan jyAdA sAl Tike to gADh hotA jAtA hai, vah to usakI pariNati dR^iDh hotI hai, vah apane kAraNase hotI hai. vaise jAtismaraN dR^iDh hotA jAtA hai, vah sab apane kAraNase hotA hai. jAtismaraNake kAraNase vah hotA hai, aisA nahI.n hai, parantu apane puruShArthake kAraNase hotA hai. samyagdarshan jyAdA sAl TikatA hai vah apane kAraNase banatA hai.
mumukShuH- jAtismaraNake Tikaneme.n bhI puruShArtha hai?
samAdhAnaH- sabame.n puruShArtha to hotA hI hai. prayatnase nahI.n hotA, sahaj hotA hai.
mumukShuH- jAtismaraName.n vR^iddhi hotI hai? usame.n vR^iddhi kaise hotI hai?
samAdhAnaH- nirmal pariNatike kAraNase hotI hai. kaise hotA hai, vah to sahaj hai. matikI nirmalatAse hotI hai.
mumukShuH- ek bAr yAd to A gayA hai, phir usame.n vR^iddhi ho, vah kaise?
samAdhAnaH- matikI nirmalatAse hotI hai.
mumukShuH- adhik spaShTatApUrvak yAd AtA hai?
samAdhAnaH- vah sab matikI nirmalatAke (kAraN hotA hai). svaya.n AtmAkI sAdhanA sAdhatA-sAdhatA jo jIv Age baDhatA hai, usame.n koI bhI pariNatikI nirmalatA baDhane par hotA hai. svarUpame.n lInatA karate-karate koI pariNatikI nirmalatA ho to us nirmalatAse hotA hai.
mumukShuH- jise pUrva bhavakA jAtismaraNaj~nAn ho, use bIchame.n is janmase pahaleke .. koI smaraN hotA hai? kyo.nki shrImadame.n aisA AtA hai, is jIvako pUrva bhavakI maraNakI vedanA adhik ho yA garbhakI vedanA ho to us vedanAkA vedan kare to usame.n use pUrva bhavakA smaraN ho jAtA hai. sab jIvo.nko ..
samAdhAnaH- .. kisIko vismaraN ho jAtA hai. phir bhI sa.nj~nI jIv hai, man hai to use yAd Ave. mR^ityu samayake duHkhake kAraN vismaraN ho jAtA hai. vismaraN bhI ho jAtA hai aur yAd bhI Aye. sa.nj~nI jIv hai use yAd Aye.
mumukShuH- pUrva bhavake sAth is janmake garbhake duHkh bhI yAd Aye?
samAdhAnaH- us prakArakI pariNati ho to yAd Aye. yAd Ave hI aisA nakkI nahI.n hotA. jis jAtakI usakI pariNati jahA.N jAye vaise yAd Aye. usakI pariNati
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sahaj jahA.N jAtI ho, aise yAd AtA hai.
... (nakkI) nahI.n hotA ki aisA hI Aye yA aisA hI Aye. man sahitake jo usake bhav hai, usame.n use sahajarUpase yAd Aye.
mumukShuH- bahinashrI! gurudevashrIkA ek bol aisA AtA hai ki anubhUti honese aur jAtismaraNaj~nAn hone par ... anek prakAr unhe.n spaShTa ho gaye.
samAdhAnaH- kahA.N AtA hai? vah sab kahanekI bAt hai. shraddhA-j~nAnase AtmAko pahachAne, svarUpakI pratIti kare ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. us or usakI shraddhA dR^iDh ho, j~nAyakakI pariNati ho, j~nAn us or jAy, lInatA us or ho vah sAdhakadashAkA mArga hai. usame.n usakI lInatA baDhatI jAya. usame.n bIchame.n koI nirmalatAkI pariNati baDhane par jo prakAr hone hote hai.n, vah hote hai.n. prayojan to ek AtmAkI or jAnekA hai.
j~nAyakakI pariNati dR^iDh ho, bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA ugra ho, j~nAyakakI pariNatikI ugratA ho aur andar svarUpakI lInatA baDhatI jAy, vibhAvase nyArA hotA jAy, svarUp pariNatikI dR^iDhatA hotI jAya. yah ek hI mArga hai. usame.n bIchame.n jis prakArakI pariNatikI nirmalatA hotI ho vah hotI hai. jisakI jis prakArakI pariNati ho (vaise hotA hai).
mumukShuH- AjakA din aisA ma.ngal hai, ..
samAdhAnaH- vah koI bAr-bAr kahanekI bAt hai? sahaj jab Aye tab Aye. vah to us din bhagavAn har jagah virAjamAn hote the, vah prasa.ng thA, us prasa.ng par kuCh nikal gayA. sab jagah bhagavAn virAjamAn hote the, vah prasa.ng thA isaliye...
mumukShuH- Aj is prakArakA prasa.ng hai. bhAv jAtismaraN...
samAdhAnaH- us jAtakA yAd Ave to spaShTa ho, jis jAtakA yAd Ave vaisA. svaya.n jAnate the ki svaya.n tIrtha.nkar honevAle hai.n. unakA hR^iday hI bolatA thA. svaya.n tIrtha.nkar honevAle hai.n. tIrtha.nkarakA dravya svaya.n hai.n. aur bhagavAnane kahA. unako a.ntarase lagatA thA. unako svaya.nko tIrtha.nkaratvakI bhanak AtI thI. yah bharatakShetra, yahA.N to abhI sabake abhiprAy... gurudev yahA.N padhAre aur mArgakA prakAsh kiyA. sabako satya mArga milA. mArga kahA.N kaun jAnatA thA?
kevalaj~nAn to abhI nahI.n hai, bhAvali.ngI muni bhI abhI to durlabh ho gaye hai.n. gurudev padhAre to yah sab jAnaneko milA. yah mArga alag hai, a.ntarame.n rahA hai. sAdhakadashA a.ntarame.n, sab a.ntarame.n hai. j~nAn, shraddhA Adi sab a.ntarame.n hai. pahale to sab samyagdarshan bAharase mAnate the, sab j~nAn bAharase mAnate the, chAritra bAharase mAnate the. samyagdarshan a.ntarame.n svAnubhUtikI dashAme.n pragaT hotA hai, j~nAn bhI a.ntarame.n hai aur chAritra bhI a.ntarame.n
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hai. gurudevane spaShTa kar-karake spaShTa (kiyA hai). kahI.n bhUl na rahe aise lalakAr kar- karake kahA hai ki shubhabhAv karate-karate hogA, aisA nahI.n hogA. a.ntarame.n to tU bhinna hI ho jA. itanA to rakhU.N, aise bhI nahI.n. itanA joradAr kahA hai. sabake abhiprAy andarase badal gaye.
mumukShuH- mAtAjI! jAtismaraNaj~nAname.n ... bhavakA jAnanA ho parantu ApakA pUrva bhavakA jAtismaraNaj~nAn hai mahAvidehakShetrakA, to Ajake din sabako jyAdA bhAvanA ho ki Apake shrImukhase bhagavAnakA varNan, samavasaraNakA varNan athavA dUsarA kuCh ham sune.n to ham sabako Ananda ho.
samAdhAnaH- vah jab AtA hai tab thoDA A jAtA hai. vah sab koI kahanekI bAt thoDe hI hai.
mumukShuH- Ajake din sab apekShA to rakhe nA.
samAdhAnaH- apekShA rakhe, lekin jitanA kahaneme.n Aye utanA hI kahaneme.n AtA hai, dUsarA kuCh kahanekA nahI.n hai. logo.nko ek prakArakA Ashcharya hotA hai. andar AtmAkA karanA vah mukhya hai.
mumukShuH- prayojan to sukhakA hai, parantu R^iddhi bIchame.n sahaj pragaT ho jAtI hai, to us R^iddhikA bahut bAr j~nAnI sAdhakako bhI aisA rAg AtA hai, to ham sabako to aisI ichChA ho na ki mAtAjI kuCh kahe.
samAdhAnaH- R^iddhiko jAnanekA rAg nahI.n, parantu bhagavAnakI bhakti hai. R^iddhi jAnanekA rAg nahI.n hai. bhagavAnakA kyA varNan, us samavasaraNakA kyA varNan (karanA)? vah sab shAstro.nme.n AtA hai. bAkI bhagavAn to bhagavAnakA kyA varNan (karanA)? jagatase bhinna- nyAre bhagavAn (hai.n). jo vItarAgI hai, jinakA chalanA alag, jinakA bolanA alag, jinakA baiThanA alag, jinakI vANI alag, jagatase sab alag hI hai. a.ntarame.n to bhinna ho gayA, parantu bAhar bhI alag ho gayA.
mumukShuH- shAstrame.nse sune aur ek pratyakSha puruShake pAs sune to usame.n pharka to paDatA hai na? Ap thoDe khulle hR^idayase bAt kare.n to hame.n..
samAdhAnaH- khullA kuCh nahI.n kahanA hai. jitanA kahanA hotA hai, utanA kahate hai.n.
mumukShuH- bhagavAnakA itanA baDA deh hogA, samavasaraName.n kaise virAjamAn ho.nge?
samAdhAnaH- .. yahA.N kalpanAme.n AtA hai? yahA.N to ratna dikhAI bhI nahI.n dete hai.n. vah ratnakA samavasaraN kahA.N kalpanAme.n A sake aisA hai? jo devo.n dvArA rachita. dev bhI yahA.N dikhAI nahI.n detA. devo.nkA AvAgaman aur munio.nkA samUh, kalpanAme.n
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AnA mushkil paDe aisA hai. munikA dikhanA mushkil paDatA hai. munio.nkA, sAdhako.nkA samUh yahA.N kahA.N dikhAI de aisA hai? ratnakA samavasaraN, vah ratna yahA.N kahA.N dikhAI dete hai.n? pA.Nchasau dhanuShakA deh, usake vR^ikSha, usake gaDh kahA.N kalpanAme.n A sake aisA hai.
mumukShuH- mAtAjI! kabhI thoDA jyAdA sunanekI ichChA hotI hai na.
samAdhAnaH- yahA.N kuCh kalpanAme.n A sake aisA nahI.n hai. jahA.N dUsare koI mat nahI.n hai, jahA.N dUsarA sa.npradAy, vADA nahI.n hai, jahA.N bhagavAn kahe vahI bAt phail rahI hai. vANI sunate vakta kitane hI a.ntarmuhUrtame.n samyagdarshan, kitane hI kevalaj~nAn, kitane hI muni (dashA) prApta kar rahe hai.n, vah kAl pUrA alag hai. yahA.N ek samyagdarshanakI durlabhatA hai. vahA.N munidashA kShaN-kShaName.n (AtI hai). sab tyAgakar ChoDakar chal dete hai.n. bhagavAnakI vANI sunate hai.n. vah dharma kAl... yahA.N gurudevake pratApase itanA ho rahA hai.
... gurudevane tattva bahut samajhAyA. ek j~nAyak AtmAko samajho. ek AtmA bhagavAn hai. vibhAv bhI apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. j~nAyak AtmAko pahachAno, yah sab gurudevane batAyA. shubhabhAvame.n dev-guru-shAstra aur bhItarame.n shuddhAtmA j~nAyak, jo nirvikalpa tattva hai use pahachAno. gurudevane isakA bahut vistAr kar-karake sUkShma-sUkShma nyAyAdise batAyA hai. unakI vANI apUrva thI, AtmA apUrva, unakA j~nAn apUrva, sab apUrva hI thA. aisA kahanevAle koI dikhaneme.n nahI.n Ate hai.n. tIrtha.nkarakA dravya thA jo bharatakShetrame.n padhAre, sabake kalyANake liye padhAre.
mumukShuH- is bAtako kahanevAlA koI nahI.n thA. svapname.n bhI nahI.n.
samAdhAnaH- alaukika. utanI vANI itanI joradAr va apUrva thI, sunanese AtmAkA Ashcharya lage, AtmAkI mahimA Aye, aisI unakI apUrva vANI thI. dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp, kartA-karmakA svarUp, nimitta-upAdAnakA svarUp, sab gurudevane spaShTa karake batAyA. pahale to sab kriyAse dharma hotA hai, shubhabhAvase dharma hotA hai, aisA sab mAnate the. gurudevane aisA parivartan a.ntar dR^iShTi karake sabako (jAgR^it kiyA). bhItarame.n AtmAme.n sab hai, svabhAvase sab pragaT hotA hai. svabhAvame.nse svabhAvakI paryAy bhItarame.nse AtI hai. gurudevane sab spaShTa karake batAyA hai.
mumukShuH- Atma dharma yahA.Nse prakAshit karake Apane mahAn upakAr kiyA hai.
samAdhAnaH- gurudevane kahA, us mArga par chalanA vahI.n karanA hai, AtmAkA kalyAN (karanA hai). AtmAkA svarUp samajhakar, bhedaj~nAn karake, Atmadravya par dR^iShTi karanI vahI karanA hai. gurudevane jo mArga batAyA, usI mArga par chalanA hai. andar svAnubhUti, bhavakA abhAv sab j~nAyakako pahachAnanese hotA hai. puruShArtha to svaya.nko karanA hai, puruShArtha to karanese hotA hai. AtmA j~nAyak jAnanevAlA, shubhAshubh bhAv bhI apanA svabhAv nahI.n
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hai. usase bhedaj~nAn karake j~nAyakake svabhAvako pahachAnakar, usakI pratIt-shraddhA, usame.n lInatA karanA vahI muktikA mArga hai, vahI pragaT karanA hai, jIvaname.n vahI karanekA hai.
mumukShuH- bharatajIne kailAs parvat par sthApanA kI, Apane bhI sAkShAt sthApanA kI. ... yah sunakar jisako ka.nTAlA AtA hai.. yah to jo .. sAkShAt karake dikhAyA. yah kAm koI bUrA nahI.n kiyA, sabase baDhiyA kArya kiyA. yah hamAre manake .. huA.
samAdhAnaH- sabakI bhAvanA huyI, sab mumukShuo.nko. kyA kare? kisIko achChA lagA, kisIko nahI.n bhI lagA. sabakI bhAvanA huyI to aisA (ho gayA).