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mumukShuH- gurudev samyagdarshanake liye bahut kahate the, samyagdarshan kaise prApta karanA? mAtAjI! dUsarA prashna hai, svarUpakA j~nAn aur shraddhAn sAth-sAth chalate hai.n ki usame.n koI kram hai?

samAdhAnaH- svarUpakA j~nAn aur shraddhA, samyak shraddhA aur samyakaj~nAn dono.n sAth- sAth hai.n. usame.n kram nahI.n hai. lekin shuruAtame.n AtmAko jAnaneke liye, mai.n kaun hU.N? merA kyA svarUp hai? usakA jab nirNay kare tab vah j~nAn bIchame.n AtA hai. merA j~nAyak, merA j~nAnasvabhAv hai. tab nirNay kare aur shraddhA bAdame.n hotI hai, use kram kahate hai.n. vah kram vyavahAr hai. vAstavikarUpase shraddhA aur j~nAname.n kram nahI.n hai. sachchI shraddhA ho tab j~nAnako samyak nAm diyA jAtA hai. samyak shraddhA hotI hai tab dono.n sAthame.n hI hai. usame.n kram nahI.n hai. dono.n sAthame.n hai.

jis kShaN samyak shraddhA hotI hai, usI kShaN samyakaj~nAn hotA hai. usame.n kram nahI.n hai. chAritrame.n kram paDatA hai. chAritrame.n kram hai. samyak shraddhA aur samyakaj~nAn dono.n sAthame.n hI hai.n. chAritrame.n kram hai. sarva guNA.nsh so samyagdarshana. samyagdarshan hotA hai to amuk a.nshame.n sarva guN nirmal hote hai.n. sarva guNA.nsh so samyagdarshana. AtmAkA-j~nAyakakA avalamban liyA. j~nAyakakA avalamban liyA, usakI shraddhA kI to usake sAth j~nAn bhI samyak hotA hai. shraddhA ek j~nAyakako grahaN karatI hai aur j~nAn AtmAko bhI grahaN karatA hai, j~nAyakako grahaN karatA hai, paryAyakA khyAl hai, adhUrI-pUrI paryAyakA khyAl hai. lekin vah sAthame.n hI hai.

koI aisA mAne ki samyak shraddhA aur j~nAn huA, pUrNa dR^iShTi huyI to usake sAth chAritra-lInatA bhI A gayI, pUrNa dR^iShTi huyI-samyagdarshan huA isaliye sab A gayA aur sab nirmalatA ho gayI, aisA nahI.n hai. usame.n chAritrakA kram paDatA hai. a.ntarmuhUrtame.n kevalaj~nAn ho to bhI samyak shraddhA aur j~nAn sAthame.n hote hai.n aur chAritrame.n kram paDatA hai. chAritrame.n kram hai. samyak shraddhA aur j~nAname.n kram nahI.n hai.

chAritra, sthiratA, lInatA usake puruShArtha anusAr vardhamAn hotA jAtA hai. lInatAme.n kram paDatA hai. j~nAn aur shraddhA ho, isaliye pUrA ho gayA aisA nahI.n hai. abhI use

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amuk nirmalatAkI shraddhA huyI, parantu nirmalatAkI pariNati jo pUrNarUpase honI chAhiye vah nahI.n huyI. usake liye kram paDatA hai. vah svarUpame.n lInatA karate-karate vah Age jAtA hai. Age jAtA hai aur usakI bhUmikA baDhatI jAy, chauthA, pA.NchavA, ChaThThA-sAtavA.N a.ntarmuhUrta-a.ntarmuhUrtame.n svarUpame.n jhulatA hai, usame.n chAritrakA kram hai. shraddhA-j~nAname.n kram nahI.n hai. dono.n sAthame.n hai.n.

use vyavahArase vichAr karake jAne. jAne binA Age nahI.n baDh sakatA. jAnaneke liye sab j~nAn kare, parantu samyak shraddhA hotI hai, tabhI samyakaj~nAn hotA hai. a.ntarmuhUrtame.n ek shvAsoshvAsame.n aj~nAnI jo karma kShay karatA hai, lAkh-kroD bhav ho, use j~nAnI a.ntarmuhUrtame.n kShay karatA hai. a.ntarmuhUrtame.n kShay kare to j~nAn aur shraddhA sAthame.n hote hai.n. usame.n chAritrakA kram hotA hai. lekin shraddhA-j~nAname.n kram nahI.n hotA. use abhI lInatA kam rahatI hai, svarUpAcharaN chAritra-svarUpame.n visheSh-visheSh lIn honekA prayatna (chalatA hai). shraddhAse jAnA ki yah j~nAyak vahI mai.n hU.N aur koI bhI vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. rAgAdikA mai.n kartA nahI.n hU.N. mere svabhAvakA kartA hU.N. to bhI alpa asthiratAse asthirat pariNati hotI hai, usame.n rAgAdi hote hai.n. isaliye svaya.n svarUpakI vItarAg dashA pragaT karanekA prayatna karatA rahatA hai. vItarAg dashA kaise pragaT ho? svAnubhUtikI dashA vartamAn shuddhi ho, us anusAr usakI svAnubhUtikI dashA baDhatI jAtI hai.

mumukShuH- samyak shraddhA aur samyakaj~nAn to ekasAth hote hai.n, parantu usake pahale pUrvabhUmikAme.n j~nAn hote-hote sAthame.n shraddhAnakA kuCh kAm chalatA hai ki nahI.n?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAnake sAth shraddhAkA kAm chale, parantu use samyak pariNati yathArtha shraddhA ho tabhI kahA jAtA hai. j~nAyakakA Ashray a.ntarame.n yathArthapane AyA aur j~nAyakakA Alamban liyA, tab use, yahI j~nAyak, to hI use shraddhA kahA jAtA hai. shraddhAkA kAm chale, vichArase nakkI kare ki j~nAnasvabhAv mai.n hU.N, yah sab mai.n nahI.n hU.N, aise vichArase nakkI kiyA kare, sachche dev-guru-shAstrakI shraddhA kare, yah j~nAnasvabhAv so mai.n, aise vichArase nakkI kiyA kare, vah sab shraddhAkA kAm sAthame.n chalatA hai. parantu samyak to j~nAyakakA avalban le tabhI kahaneme.n AtA hai.

mumukShuH- aisA nahI.n hai ki j~nAnakA kAm chalatA ho aur shraddhA to ek samayame.n phaTAkase mithyAtva (ChUT jAy) aisA nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n, aisA nahI.n hai. vichArame.n shraddhA hotI hai. parantu vah samyak nahI.n kahalAtI. j~nAyakakA avalamban le tab (samyak kahI jAtI hai).

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! dUsarA prashna hai. pUjya gurudevashrIkA upadesh jij~nAsA aur bhAvanAse sunakar, mai.n ek j~nAyak hU.N, sharIr nahI.n hU.N, itanA j~nAn ho to samyagdarshan huA kahA

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jAy ki nahI.n?

samAdhAnaH- gurudevakA upadesh sune. gurudev samyagdarshan kise kahate hai.n, use samajhanA chAhiye. gurudev mAtra, sharIrase bhinna ek j~nAyak jAnanevAlA, utaneme.n samyagdarshan nahI.n kahate the. gurudev samyagdarshanakA svarUp koI apUrva kahate the. ek sharIrase bhinna AtmAko jAnA isaliye usame.n samyagdarshan AtA nahI.n. thoDA karake Age nahI.n baDhatA to thoDeme.n bahut mAn le to usame.n kAryasiddhi nahI.n hotI. usame.n svaya.nko sukh utpanna nahI.n hotA. ho sake to (achChA hI hai), nahI.n ho sake to shraddhA to barAbar karanA. jo gurudevane kahA hai ki samyagdarshan a.ntarame.n koI alag hai aur koI apUrva hai. shubhAshubh bhAvo.nse bhinna AtmA hai, use tU pahachAna. usame.n jo svAnubhUti hotI hai, us pAr man-vachan-kAyAse bhinna AtmA, vibhAv bhI usakA svabhAv nahI.n hai, usase bhI bhinna andar jAna. to samyagdarshan andar svAnubhUti ho to (hotA hai). aisA gurudevane kahA hai.

tujhase ho sake to dhyAnamay pratikramaN karanA, shAstrame.n AtA hai. na ho sake to shraddhA to barAbar karanA. tujhase Age nahI.n baDhA jAy, to gurudevane jo samyagdarshanakA svarUp kahA hai, usakI shraddhA tU barAbar karanA. sharIrase bhinna jAnA. sharIr to jaD hai aur AtmA jAnanevAlA hai. isaliye AtmAko jAnaneke liye, yah jAnanevAlA mai.n hU.N, yah sharIr kuCh jAnatA nahI.n. isaliye mai.n sharIrase bhinna jAnanevAlA hU.N. parantu andarame.n jo vikalpakI jAlake sAth ekatva ho rahA hai, vikalpakA-rAg-dveShakA svAd kaluShit A rahA hai. vah svAd bhinna hai. AtmA jAnanevAlAkA svAd bhinna hai aur yah svAd bhinna hai. vikalpase bhinna svAdabhed karatA nahI.n. to use abhI bhedaj~nAn huA nahI.n hai.

kAlIjIrI aur shakkar dono.n mishra ho gaye ho, shakkarakA svAd aur kAlIjIrIkA svAd, doko alag nahI.n karatA hai to andar bhedaj~nAn nahI.n ho sakatA hai. dUdh ek bartaname.n ho to bartanase bhinna dUdh hai. bartan bartan hai. lekin dUdh aur pAnI mishra hai, vah dUdh aur pAnIko bhinna nahI.n karatA hai to vah vAstavikarUpase dUdhakA svarUp kaisA hai, use jAnatA nahI.n.

svAdabhed andar hai, use bhinna kare to hI usane AtmAko jAnA kahaneme.n Aye aur to hI bhedaj~nAn kiyA kahaneme.n AtA hai. to hI use samyagdarshan hotA hai. dono.n- shubh aur ashubh, shubhabhAv bIchame.n Aye, dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA, shAstra abhyAs bIchame.n AtA hai, jo prayojanabhUt tattvako jAnanekA prayAs, jyAdA bahut jAne esA nahI.n, parantu prayojanabhUt jAne. vah sab bIchame.n Aye, parantu dono.n bhAvo.nse svaya.n bhinna hai, shubhAshubh bhAv dono.n kaluShit AkulatArUp hai, mai.n usase bhinna j~nAyak hU.N, aisA bhedaj~nAn kare to hI usane sachchA jAnA hai. sharIramAtrase bhinna jAne to usane bhinna nahI.n jAnA hai. vah

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ThIk hai, sharIr jaD aur mai.n bhinna jAnanevAlA hU.N. parantu andar vibhAvo.nse bhinna paDe to usane vAstavame.n bhinna jAnA hai, nahI.n to bhinna nahI.n jAnA hai.

gurudevane to kitanA upadesh diyA hai. chAro.n orase spaShTa kar-karake samajhAyA hai. usame.n kuCh bAkI nahI.n rakhA hai. gurudevane kuCh bAkI nahI.n rakhA hai. shAstrame.n AtA hai na ki, mere gurune jo upadeshakI jamAvaT kI hai, us upadeshakI jamAvaTake Age yah tIn lokakA, pR^ithvIkA rAjya bhI mujhe priy nahI.n hai, yah tIn lokakA rAjya bhI mujhe priy nahI.n hai. sab tuchCha hai. aise gurudevane is bharatakShetrame.n janma lekar jo upakAr kiyA hai, 45-45 varSha tak jo upadesh barasAyA hai, us upadeshakI jamAvaT svaya.n andar kare. gurudevane to upadeshakA dhodh barasAyA hai. us upadeshake Age sab tuchCha hai. yah pUrA jagat tuchCha hai. sab tuchCha hai.

ek j~nAyak AtmAko pahachAno, vahI upadesh gurudevane diyA hai. is pR^ithvIkA rAjya, AchAryadev kahate hai.n, tIn lokakA rAjya bhI priy nahI.n hai. usake Age bAharake vibhAv, sab tuchCha hai. logo.nme.n jAhir honA, kisI bhI prakArakA kArya, sab tuchCha hai. mere gurune jo upadesh diyA, usake Age sab tuchCha hai. andarame.n gurudevakA upadesh grahaN kare to jo unho.nne kahA, use pahachAne to usame.n samyagdarshan (hokar) bhavakA abhAv ho aur samyagdarshanakI prApti ho.

mumukShuH- ... TikatA hai to kaise?

samAdhAnaH- pariNamatA hai, svaya.n apanA svabhAv TikAkar pariNamatA hai. svabhAv TikatA rahatA hai, pariNaman hotA hai.

mumukShuH- arthAt pUrA dravya to pariNamatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, pUrA dravya pariNamatA hai. svabhAv Tikakar pariNamatA hai. do bhAg nahI.n ho jAte ki AdhA bhAg pariNamatA hai aur AdhA bhAg nahI.n pariNamatA hai, aisA nahI.n hai. pariNamatA hai pUrA aur svabhAvarUp sab rahatA hai. apanA svabhAv Tikakar pariNamatA hai. pUrA badalakar pheraphAr nahI.n ho jAtA. pUrA TikatA hai aur pariNamatA bhI hai. TikatA bhI hai aur pariNamatA bhI hai.

mumukShuH- dR^iShTikA viShayabhUt aisA jo trikAl pa.nchamabhAv sadA ekarUp rahatA hai. to vah dR^iShTi apekShit hai yA paramArthase aisA hai? pa.nchamabhAv dR^iShTi apekShitame.n le.n...

samAdhAnaH- pa.nchamabhAv pUrA anAdiananta hai. vah dR^iShTikI apekShAse nahI.n, parantu vastu svabhAvase vah ekarUp hI rahatA hai, pAriNAmikabhAv to. parantu dR^iShTike viShayame.n vah pAriNAmikabhAv AtA hai. anAdiananta hai, vah vastusvarUp hai. apekShit yAnI pAriNAmikabhAv apekShit hai aisA nahI.n, pAriNAmikabhAv anAdiananta hai. dR^iShTi use pahachAn

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letI hai. dR^iShTikA viShay hai. dR^iShTime.n vah jAn sakate hai.n. vah dR^iShTikA viShay hai, apekShit nahI.n hai. dR^iShTi use viShay karatI hai. apekShit nahI.n hai. dR^iShTikI apekShAse pAriNAmikabhAv hai aise nahI.n, pAriNAmikabhAv hai aur dR^iShTi use grahaN karatI hai. paramArthase hai.

mumukShuH- Ajake ali.ngagrahaNake pravachaname.n AyA thA ki guN sAmAnya, dravya-guN sAmAnya hai aur paryAy visheSh hai. ham log guNako bhI visheSh lete hai.n, vah kis prakArase?

samAdhAnaH- koI apekShAse dravya aur guNako sAmAnya kahate haiai.n aur paryAy visheSh hai. koI apekShAse guNako bhI visheSh kahaneme.n AtA hai. guNako bhed apekShAse visheSh kahaneme.n AtA hai. dravyame.n bhed nahI.n paDatA. ek-ek guN bhinna (hai). j~nAn, darshan, chAritra aise bhedakI apekShAse visheSh kahaneme.n AtA hai. aur paryAyako bhI visheSh kahate hai.n. paryAyabhed paDate hai.n, palaTatI paryAy hai isaliye use bhI visheSh kahaneme.n AtA hai. parantu guN aur dravya dono.nko sAmAnya bhI kahaneme.n AtA hai.

mumukShuH- ananta guNAtmak dravya hai,...

samAdhAnaH- ananta guNAtmak dravya. guN anAdiananta hai. paryAy to badalatI hai. isaliye guNako aur dravyako dono.nko sAmAnya lenA aur paryAyako visheSh lenA. aur bhed apekShAse guNako bhI visheSh le sakate haiai.n aur dravyako sAmAnya le sakate hai.n.

mumukShuH- dravya sAmAnyame.n abhed...

samAdhAnaH- dravya sAmAnya ek lekar, usame.n guN sAthame.n A jAte hai.n. guNako bhed apekShAse use visheSh le sakate hai.n. bAkI dono.n anAdiananta hai.n, isaliye dono.nko sAmAnya le sakate hai.n. abhed hai, guN dravyake sAth abhed hai aur anAdiananta hai. isaliye dravyakA viShay kare usame.n sab guN abhedapane A jAte haiai.n aur paryAy palaTatI hai isaliye paryAy visheSh hai.

mumukShuH- guNavisheSh aise to pragaT nahI.n hai, phir bhI bhedakI apekShAse use visheSh (kahate hai.n).

samAdhAnaH- vah bhale pragaT nahI.n hai, parantu vah bhedakI apekShAse visheSh hai. paryAy pragaT hotI hai, isaliye visheSh kahalAtI hai. use bhed apekShAse (visheSh kahate haiai.n). ek- ek guN j~nAn, darshan, chAritra aise visheSh hai na? dravya to ek sAmAnya lenA. guNakA bhed paDe, yah j~nAn hai, yah darshan hai, yah chAritra hai, yah bal hai, aise bhed paDate hai.n isaliye visheSh hai. bhed apekShAse.

mumukShuH- ana.nt guNAtmak kahe.n tab sAmAnya lenA.

samAdhAnaH- ekarUp dravya hai, ana.nt guNAtmak ek dravya hai. guN bhinna-bhinna TUkaDe

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nahI.n hai, parantu ek dravyakA hI svarUp hai. isaliye ekarUp hai, dravyake sAth guN ekarUp hai. isaliye dravya aur guNako ek le.n to sAmAnya hai. parantu lakShaN apekShAse bhinna paDatA hai, isaliye use visheSh kahaneme.n AtA hai.

Am lo to usame.n usake sab guN hai.n. varNa, gandha, ras, sparsha sab usame.n samA jAte hai.n, isaliye ek abheda. guNako bhinna nahI.n karo to ek Am hai. parantu usake ra.ng, ras sabako bhinna karo to vah guN bhI visheSh hai. parantu usakI paryAye.n khaTTA, mIThA, saphed, harA, pIlA vah sab usakI paryAye.n hotI hai.n. usakA pariNaman vah paryAy hai. AmakA jo pariNaman hai vah paryAy hai. aise darshan, j~nAn, chAritra usake guN hai.n.

mumukShuH- nau tattvakI shraddhA hai yA svaparakI shraddhA hai yA svakI shraddhA hai yA sva sAmAnyakI hI mAtra shraddhA hai?

samAdhAnaH- shraddhAme.n sab A jAtA hai. ek sAmAnyakI shraddhA, ek dravya par dR^iShTi, usame.n ek AtmashraddhA, tattvakI shraddhA, ek mUl vastu AtmAkI shraddhA. vah mUl shraddhA (hai). usake sAth vyavahArame.n bhed apekShAse sab AtA hai. svaparakI shraddhA. apanI shraddhA, yah mai.n hU.N aur yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N, aise svaparakI shraddhA AyI. usame.n nau tattvakI shraddhA AyI. dR^iShTi apekShAse ekakI shraddhA. j~nAn apekShAse sab AtA hai. yah apanI shraddhA aur yah par hai, yah mai.n hU.N, ese svaparakI shraddhA. nau tattvakI shraddhA, vah sab usame.n sAthame.n AtA hai.

mumukShuH- svakI shraddhAme.n sab..?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N. abhed apekShAse ekakI shraddhA. usakA visheSh le to sab shraddhA andar sAthame.n AtI hai. jIvakI, ajIvakI, Asrav.. koI apekShAse jIvako vibhAv hai, vibhAvase ChUT sakatA hai, A.nshik shuddhi huyI-sa.nvar, jyAdA shuddhi huyI-nirjarA, karmakI orase le.n to karma aTak gaye-(sa.nvar), andarame.n shuddhi baDhatI jAy vah nirjarA. pUrNa shuddhi ho gayI, kevalaj~nAn mokSha (huA), vah sab shraddhA. sAdhak-sAdhya sabakI shraddhA sAthame.n A jAtI hai, bhed apekShAse. andar ek tattva, andar dravya dR^iShTikI apekShAse ek sAmAnya abhedakI shraddhA hai. visheShame.n sab AtA hai.

mumukShuH- atIndriyaj~nAnakI prApti binA, ham indriyaj~nAnavAle bhedame.nse abhedame.n kaise ChalA.ng lagAye?

samAdhAnaH- bhed bhale rahe, parantu abhed svarUp svaya.n hai nA, koI dUsarA nahI.n hai. abhed atIndriy svarUp svaya.n hI hai, usakI dR^iShTi bAhar gayI hai. upayog bAhar ghumatA hai isaliye yah indriy, man AdikA Alamban bIchame.n AtA hai. parantu mai.n nirAla.nbI tattva hU.N, usakI shraddhA kare. jUThI mAnyatA ho gayI hai ki yah par mai.n aur mai.n so

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par, aisA ho gayA hai. shraddhA badal de. AtmAkA j~nAnalakShaN pahachAn le, to usame.n palaT sakatA hai. nahI.n hotA hai aisA nahI.n hai. apanA hI svabhAv hai. bAharakA avalamnab lenevAlA svaya.n hI, nirAla.nb honevAlA svaya.n hI hai. nirAla.nban svabhAv hI svaya.nkA hai.