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mumukShuH- pramAN .. kA abhiprAy aisA hai ki Ashay grahaN karanA.

samAdhAnaH- Ashay grahaN karanA. gurudevakA vachan pramANa. gurudevane kahA, tU bhagavAn paramAtmA hai. bhagavAn paramAtmA aisA kahA, vah grahaN kiyA kab kahaneme.n Aye? ki vAstavame.n mai.n bhagavAn paramAtmA hI hU.N, aisI a.ntarase shraddhA Aye to vachanako pramAN kiyA, kahaneme.n Aye. a.ntarame.nse niHsha.nkatA honI chAhiye. niHsha.nkatAke kAraN Age jA sakatA hai. bAharame.n gurudevakI pratIti, jo gurudev kahe vah pramANa. a.ntarame.n j~nAyak hai so j~nAyak hai. j~nAyakakI pratIti dR^iDh honI chAhiye. yah j~nAyak hai vahI mai.n j~nAyak hU.N. usame.n chalavichalatA sha.nkA nahI.n. yah j~nAyak so mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N. aise j~nAyakako pahachAnakar aisA niHsha.nk ho jAy to usame.n sthir honeke samartha hotA hai. aisA shAstrame.n AtA hai. aisA niHsha.nk ho to usame.n lInatA hotI hai. niHsha.nkatAke binA, use pahachAne binA Age nahI.n jA sakatA.

mumukShuH- niHsha.nkatA nahI.n hai to sachchA pramAN bhI nahI.n kah sakate.

samAdhAnaH- niHsha.nkatAke binA use satya mAnA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- gurudev kahate hai.n ki hA.N hI kahanA, kalpanA mat karanA.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, hA.N hI kahanA, kalpanA mat karanA. sab kahate hai.n. hA.N hI kahanA. tU j~nAyak hI aisA barAbar nakkI karanA. andarase hA.N kahanA. hA.N kahanA, to andarase terI paryAy pragaT hogI, to j~nAyak tere hAthame.n AyegA, to j~nAyakadevake darshan ho.nge. jaise a.njan chorako bhagavAnake darshan hue. akR^itrim chaityAlayake (darshan hue), vaise tujhe is chaitanya bhagavAnake darshan ho.nge. vah to phir a.ntarame.n utar gaye hai.n, kevalaj~nAn tak pahu.Nch gaye hai.n.

vaise tU andarame.n (niHsha.nkatA pragaT kar) bhagavAnake darshan ho.nge. gurudev batAte hai.n, tU andar dekh, andar tujhe bhagavAne darshan ho.nge. chaitanyadevake. gurudevake is vachanako pramAN karake andar jAy to chaitanyadevake darshan ho.

mumukShuH- Ashay pakaDame.n nahI.n AyA ho aur hA.N kahe to gurudevakA avarNavAd huA kahaneme.n Aye?


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samAdhAnaH- Ashay pakaDe binA hA.N kahe to avarNavAd nahI.n (hotA), parantu vah satya samajhA nahI.n. samajhe binA hA.N kahatA hai. samajhe binA bhAvanAse hA.N kahe, bhaktise kahe. sachchA to kab kahaneme.n Aye ki samajhakar hA.N kahe to.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! ek bAr anubhUti prApta honeke bAd vah jab bhI chAhe tab nirvikalpa ho sakatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- jise svAnubhUti prApta huyI hai, usane mArga jAn liyA hai ki kis mArgase is j~nAyakame.n lInatA hotI hai. yah j~nAyak hai, yah sab vibhAv (hai). yah paradravya merA svarUp nahI.n hai. yah vibhAv bhI merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. mai.n usase bhinna, aisI use shraddhA-pratIt, j~nAyakakI pariNati pragaT huyI hai, anubhUti huyI hai. mArga jAn liyA hai ki kis mArgase bhAvanagar jAnA hotA hai. vah sab mArga jAn liyA hai. mArgakA use sa.ntoSh hai. parantu kaise chalakar jAnA, koI chalakar jAtA hai, koI dhIre-dhIre jAtA hai, koI utAvalIse jAtA hai.

is prakAr use svarUpame.n lIn honA, vah vartamAnakI shuddhi-nirmalatA hotI hai us anusAr vah andar nirvikalpa hotA hai. vartamAn usakI bhUmikAkI nirmalatA ho, shuddhatA ho us anusAr use shuddhaupayogakI pariNati hotI hai. bAkI j~nAyakakI bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati nira.ntar rahatI hai. khAte-pIte j~nAyak.. j~nAyakakI dashA hI hotI hai. bhedaj~nAnakI dashA chAlU hI hai. khAte-pIte, jAgate-sote, svapname.n bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA chAlU hai. parantu nirvikalpa dashA usakI bhUmikA anusAr hotI hai.

pA.Nchave guNasthAname.n usakI bhUmikA anusAr, ChaThThe-sAtaveme.n a.ntarmuhUrta-a.ntarmuhUrtame.n hotI hai. chauthe guNasthAname.n usakI nirmalatAkI tAratamyatA chauthevAlekI jis prakArakI hotI hai, usake anusAr use nirvikalpa dashA hotI hai. bAkI to apanA svabhAv hai. vah svabhAv, jaise pAnI pAnIko khI.NchatA huA apanI or jAtA hai, aise svaya.n svabhAvakI or muDA, svabhAv-or usakI pariNati dauD rahI hai, lekin use jo virakti, lInatA, chAritrame.n jis prakArakI lInatA hotI hai, us anusAr use nirvikalpa dashA hotI hai. svarUpAcharaN chAritra chauthe guNasthAname.n usakI jaisI nirmalatA aur tAratamyatA ho, us anusAr vah nirvikalpa dashAko prApta karatA hai.

mumukShuH- chauthevAleko roj ho sakatI hai?

samAdhAnaH- aisA kuCh nahI.n, usakI dashA ho us anusAr ho sakatI hai. vah koI niyamIt nahI.n hotI. roj nahI.n ho aisA bhI nahI.n hai, hotI hI hai aisA bhI nahI.n hai. usakI nirmalatA anusAr hotI hai. roj nahI.n ho yA amuk dino.nke bAd hI ho, aisA koI niyam nahI.n hai. usakI nirmalatA anusAr hotI hai. ChaThThe guNasthAname.n to a.ntarmuhUrta-


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a.ntarmuhUrtame.n hotI hai. chauthekI nirmalatA ho us anusAr hotI hai. roj hove hI nahI.n, aisA koI pratiba.ndh nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- shuddhopayogakA koI kAl hotA hai, aisA kuCh nahI.n hai ki is kAlame.n shuddhaupayog hotA hai.

samAdhAnaH- aisA koI kAl nahI.n hotA. usakI jaisI pariNati. vartamAn nirmalatA, usakI shuddhi (ho), us anusAr use hotA hai. vartamAnakI jaisI virakti, shuddhikI pariNati ho us anusAr use nirvikalpa dashA hotI hai.

mumukShuH- samyagdR^iShTiko aisI ichChA bhI nahI.n hotI. ichChA to rAg hai, aisA rAg bhI hotA nahI.n ki shuddhopayog ho.

samAdhAnaH- vikalpase nirvikalpa huA nahI.n jAtA. ichChA hai vah vikalpa hai. us vikalpase nirvikalpa nahI.n huA jAtA. andarakI sahaj nirmalatAkI pariNati, shuddhikI pariNatise a.ntarakI viraktise nirvikalpa dashA hotI hai. bhAvanA ek alag bAt hai. parantu bhAvanA yA kR^itrimatAse a.ntarame.n nahI.n jA sakatA. ichChA-rAgase andar nahI.n jA sakatA. vItarAgI pariNatise a.ntarame.n jAnA hotA hai. bhale shubhabhAv ho, bhAvanA hai, parantu vah vikalpa TUTakar andar jAtA hai. vikalpa khaDA rakhakar andar nahI.n jA sakatA.

mumukShuH- pUrva bhUmikAme.n parapadArthase virakti,..

samAdhAnaH- andar j~nAyakakI dashAke sAth virakti hotI hai. svarUpakI lInatA, astitvame.n svarUpakI lInatA eva.n shuddhi, apanI nirmalatAkI pariNati, us kAraNase jAtA hai. aur astitva-or usakI... chauthe guNasthAname.n usakI jaisI virakti ho aur svarUp- orakI lInatA, nirmalatA. bAkI dashAme.n utanA pharka nahI.n paDatA. pA.Nchave guNasthAn jaisI dashA nahI.n hotI.

mumukShuH- bhUmikA anusAra.

samAdhAnaH- bhUmikA anusAr hotI hai.

mumukShuH- phir bhI koI pratibandha bhI nahI.n hai ki ek mahine pahale nahI.n hotI, do mahine pahale nahI.n hotI, aisA pratibandha nahI.n hai.

samAdhAnaH- aisA pratibandha nahI.n hai. aisA nahI.n hai. koI dinakA pratibandha nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- jaise Ap kahate ho, ghoDA ... ChalA.ng lagAye, vaise koI bAr aisI dashA Ave to..

samAdhAnaH- ghoDA ChalA.ng bhI mAratA hai. aisA hotA hai. usakI bhUmikA palaTakar nahI.n. usakI puruShArthakI DorI kabhI ChalA.ng mAre, kabhI dhImI chale, use kisI bhI prakArakA pratibandha hai. j~nAyakakI Dor apane hAthame.n hai. jis prakAr usakI nirmalatA aur lInatA


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visheSh hotI hai, us anusAr hotI hai. kabhI savikalpa dashAme.n ruke, koI bAr nirvikalpa dashAme.n jAtA hai. haTh karake vikalpase Age nahI.n jA sakatA. usakI nirmalatAkI pariNatise Age jAnA hotA hai.

mumukShuH- haThase hotA nahI.n aur bhUmikA virUddha bhI nahI.n hotA.

samAdhAnaH- bhUmikA virUddha nahI.n hotA.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! .. shuddhanay kahatA nahI.n, usakA kyA artha hai? sAdhakako .. shuddhanayakA Ala.nban ChUTatA nahI.n, vah kaise ban sakatA hai? kyo.nki upayogame.n to cha.nchalatA hotI hai.

samAdhAnaH- gurudevane, shuddhanay kise kahate hai.n, nishchay kise kahate hai.n, vyavahAr kise kahate hai.n, koI jAnatA nahI.n thA. gurudevane spaShTa kar-karake andarase rahasya kholakar samajhAyA hai aur spaShTa bhI utanA kiyA hai ki kuCh bAkI nahI.n rakhA. yah gurudevakA param-param upakAr hai. koI kuCh jAnatA nahI.n thA. yah sab rahasya gurudevane khulle kiye hai.n. mai.n to unakA dAs hU.N. gurudevane jo spaShTa kiyA hai, vah koI apUrva rahasya khullA kiyA hai, spaShTa kiyA hai. gurudevakA j~nAn alag, gurudevakI vANI alag, gurudevakA AtmA alag, sab alag hI thA. gurudevane jo spaShTa kiyA hai, is bharatakShetrame.n janma lekar jo upakAr kiyA hai, vah upakAr koI apUrva hai. unakA param-param upakAr hai.

paramAtma tattvame.n dhyAnAvalI nahI.n hai, dhyAnAvalI bhI nahI.n hai. paramAtmatattva anAdiananta shuddha hai. shuddha svarUpame.n dhyAnAvalI ek sAdhakadashA hai. sAdhakadashA mUl jo vastu hai, pUrNa vastu hai, pUrNa sAmarthyase bharI huyI jo vastu hai, usame.n dhyAnAvalI sAdhakadashA hai. sAshakadashA-j~nAn, darshan, chAritra, sab sAdhak dashA hai. vaise yah dhyAnAvalI bhI sAdhakadashA hai.

jo pUrNa sAmarthyase bharapUr vastu hai, usake andar dhyAnAvalI kahanI, yah dharmadhyAn, shukladhyAn, vah sab dhyAn pUrNa svarUpame.n nahI.n hai. dravyakA svarUp jAnanA. dravya par dR^iShTi rakhe. j~nAyakake mUl svarUpame.n yah dhyAnAvalI bhI nahI.n hai. kyo.nki vah anAdiananta vastu hai. use yadi pahachAne nahI.n, us vastukA Ashray na le to dhyAn bhI nahI.n ho sakatA. isaliye vastuke andar dhyAnAvalI bhI nahI.n hai. shubhabhAv to ek or rahe, ashubhabhAv bhAv ek or rahe, lekin yah sAdhanAkI paryAy jo dhyAnAvalI hai, vah bhI AtmAme.n nahI.n hai. aisA barAbar svarUp samajhe to hI usakI sAdhakadashA hotI hai.

mai.n j~nAyak paripUrNa sAmarthyase bharA, ananta apUrva mahimAva.nt vastu hU.N. pUrNa par dR^iShTi hai. anAdiananta vastu shAshvat hai, us par dR^iShTi hai. to bhI sAdhakadashA bIchame.n AtI hai, use gauN karatA hai. dravyadR^iShTime.n vah gauN hai. to bhI dhyAn bIchame.n Aye binA rahatA nahI.n. dhyAnAvalI bIchame.n Aye binA rahatI nahI.n. parantu vah dhyAnAvalIko dravyadR^iShTi nikAl


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detI hai. dhyAnAvalIko nikAl detI hai, pA.Nch j~nAnake bhed bhI usame.n nahI.n hai, usame.n guNasthAn bhI nahI.n hai. koI vastu usame.n nahI.n hai. jo anAdiananta vastu hai, vah sthirarUp vastu hai. jo paryAy badalatI hai, vah AshrayakA kAraN nahI.n banatI. Ashray to jo anAdiananta vastu hai, vahI AshrayarUp hai. isaliye Ashray to anAdiananta vastu hai vahI AshrayarUp hai. isaliye Ashray to anAdiananta pUrNa vastu hai, usIkA Ashray karane yogya hai.

dR^iShTi yadi j~nAyakako pahachAne to hI yathArtha sAdhakadashA hotI hai. bAkI sAdhakadashA hotI nahI.n. isaliye dhyAnAvalI bhI AtmAme.n nahI.n hai. dravyadR^iShTik Alambaname.n dhyAnAvalI nahI.n hai. parantu vah dhyAn bIchame.n Aye binA rahatA nahI.n. AchAryadev kahate hai.n ki are..re..! hastAvala.nbanatulya yah vyavahAr bIchame.n Aye binA rahatA nahI.n. kyo.nki abhI adhUrI dashA hai. isaliye vah bIchame.n Aye binA rahatA nahI.n.

laDAIme.n khaDA ho to bhI shuddhanay ChUTatA nahI.n. shuddha svarUpako-j~nAyakako grahaN kiyA, us j~nAyakakA avalmab laDAIme.n bhI ChUTatA nahI.n. anAdise jo shAshvat vastu hai, vah nigodame.n gayA, kahI.n bhI gayA, j~nAnakI shakti ghaT gayI, parantu andar jo mUl shakti hai, usame.n kuCh ghaTatA nahI.n. anAdiananta vastukA nAsh nahI.n hotA. chAhe jaise vibhAvakI paryAy ho to bhI. to phir dravyadR^iShTi pragaT huyI use kaun rok sakatA hai? j~nAyakakA avalamban liyA, vah laDAIme.n khaDA ho to bhI j~nAyak hai, dhyAnAvalIme.n ho to bhI j~nAyak hI hai. sAdhakadashAme.n pUrNa j~nAyak par dR^iShTi hai. sAdhakame.n bhI j~nAyak aur ashubhabhAvame.n laDAIme.n khaDA ho to bhI j~nAyak hai. use koI rok nahI.n sakatA. to bhI use andar ashubhabhAvame.n khaDA huA, laDAIme.n khaDA hai, are..! mai.n kab sAdhakadashAme.n pUrNa svarUpakI prApti karu.N? are..! yah adhUrI dashA hai, merA j~nAyak pUrNa svarUp hai, use yah adhUrI dashA shobhatI nahI.n. mai.n kab vItarAg hoU.N? aisI bhAvanA to use rahatI hI hai.

mumukShuH- dhyAnAvalI bhI vyavahAr...

samAdhAnaH- dhyAnAvalI bhI vyavahAr hI hai. shukladhyAn bhI vyavahAr hai. dravyadR^iShTime.n, dravyake andar bAharase kuCh AtA nahI.n. vah sab to sAdhanA hai. anAdiananta vastu jo hai, vah sAmarthyase bharapUr hai. adhUrI ho to adhUrekA Alamban hotA nahI.n. isaliye shukladhyAn ho, parantu vah vyavahAr hai. vah bhI vyavahAr hai. kevalaj~nAnakI paryAy pragaT hotI hai, to bhI vah paryAy hai. hai pUrNatA, pUrNa, parantu vah bhI paryAy hai. shukladhyAn to sAdhanAkI paryAy hai, parantu kevalaj~nAn ho to bhI vah paryAy hai. mati, shrut, avadhi, manaHparyayaj~nAn, kevalaj~nAnake bhed par dR^iShTi nahI.n hai. kevalaj~nAn ho to bhI. vah bhI paryAy hai. dR^iShTi j~nAyak par aur pUrNatA pragaT karanekI bhAvanA, yah dono.n sAthame.n hote hai.n. puruShArthakI Dor chAlU hai. chAritra-lInatA AtmAke svarUpame.n kaise samA jAU.N? bAhar AU.N nahI.n,


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aisI bhAvanA hai aur dravya par dR^iShTi, j~nAyakakI dashA, j~nAyakakI Dor ChUTatI nahI.n. chAhe jaise bAhya sa.nyogame.n ho, sAdhanAkI paryAyame.n ho, dhyAname.n ho to bhI usakI j~nAyakakI DorI ChUTatI nahI.n. aur yah laDAIke prasa.ngame.n ho to bhI usakI j~nAyakakI DorI andar hai. bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA aur j~nAyakako grahaN kiyA hai, vah grahaN kiyA, jo Alamban liyA vah Alamban use ChUTatA nahI.n. bAhya koI bhI sa.nyog use toD nahI.n sakate. aisA Alamban Ave to hI usakI sAdhakadashAkI paryAye.n hotI hai.

AchAryadev kahate hai.n, mai.n shuddha chinmAtra mUrti hU.N. to bhI are..! merI pariNati kalmAShit- mailI ho rahI hai. shuddha chinmAtra mUrti j~nAyakakA Alamban hai. aur abhI chAritrakI dashA adhUrI hai. vah bhI use j~nAname.n sAthame.n vartatI hai. j~nAname.n sab vartatA hai. puruShArthakI DorI lInatAkI or jAtI hai aur j~nAyakakA AlambanakA bal aur Ashray bhI sAthame.n chalatA hai. use j~nAyak, pratyek prasa.ngame.n j~nAyaka. dhyAn ho, shukladhyAn ho to bhI vah vyavahAr hai. lekin vah sAdhakadashA bIchame.n Aye binA rahatI hI nahI.n. kyo.nki paryAy, vibhAvakI paryAy hotI hai. usase bhedaj~nAn huA, samyagdarshan huA aur svAnubhUtikI dashA pragaT huyI, phir svAnubhUtikI dashA baDhatI jAtI hai, phir bhI abhI adhUrI paryAy hai, usakA kartA hotA nahI.n, to bhI asthiratAme.n rAgAdi vartate hai.n, apane puruShArthakI kamajorIse. usakA use khyAl hai. isaliye puruShArthakI Dor apanI or chAlU hI hai. lInatA-andar svarUpame.n samA jAnekI lInatA chAlU hI hai.

mumukShuH- paramAtmatattva bhI padArthakA a.nsh hai aur dhyAnAvalI bhI padArthakA a.nsh hai. yah a.nsh hai vah AshrayarUp hai, aur yah a.nsh gauN karanA..

samAdhAnaH- paramAtmatattva hai vah svaya.n pUrA dravya hai. ananta sAmarthyase bharapUr dravya hai pUrA. sAmAnya svabhAv hai. lekin vah pUrI vastukA sAmarthya hai. abhed hai. dhyAnAvalI hai vah sAdhakadashA hai. usame.n shubhabhAv mishrit hai. aur ekAgratA jo a.ntarame.n hotI hai, jo a.ntarame.n vikalpa ChUTakar hotI hai, ekAgra pariNati andar svarUpakI ramaNatA vah alag bAt hai. vah nirvikalpa dhyAn hai. aur yah vikalpavAlA dhyAn hai, usame.n shubhabhAvakA Ashray hai. to bhI ekAgratA ho, chauthe guNasthAname.n jo svarUp ramaNatA hai, pA.Nchave guNasthAname.n jo shuddhi pragaT huyI hai, ChaThThe-sAtave.nme.n (shuddhi pragaT huyI hai) vah bhI adhUrI paryAy hai. adhUrI paryAy bhI pUrNa svabhAv, mUl svabhAv, asal svarUp usakA nahI.n hai. adhUrI paryAy jitanA bhI AtmA nahI.n hai. use bhI vah gauN karatA hai.

adhUrI paryAyakI bhUmikA baDhatI jAtI hai, guNasthAnakI dashA, ChaThThe-sAtave.nme.n, phir shreNi mA.nDatA hai, vah sab adhUrI paryAy hai. adhUrI paryAy aur pUrNa paryAy, sab dravyadR^iShTime.n gauN hotI hai. sabako nikAl detI hai. to bhI j~nAname.n dono.n vastu use khyAlame.n hai.


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dono.nko jAnatA hai. adhUrI paryAy hai, pUrNa shuddhi, pUrNa paryAy kaise pragaT ho? a.ntarame.n usakI bhAvanA hai. puruShArthakI Dor chAlU hai. vah kab hotA hai? ki j~nAyakake Ashrayake Alambanase hI hotA hai.

mumukShuH- paramAtma svarUp hai vah mUl AtmA hai.

samAdhAnaH- vah mUl AtmA hai. vah mUl vastu hai.

mumukShuH- paryAye.n vyavahAr AtmA?

samAdhAnaH- vyavahAr AtmA. do AtmA bhinna-bhinna nahI.n hai, ek hI hai. sAmAnya- visheSh, do AtmA bhinna-bhinna nahI.n hai. sAmAnya anAdiananta hai, paryAy bhI vastukA svarUp hai. dravya-guN-paryAy sab vastu hai. paryAy ek a.nsharUp, bhedarUp hai. vah TikatI nahI.n, badal jAtI hai. guN hai, guNabhed lakShaNabhed hai. parantu jo pUrI sAmAnya vastu hai, vah pUrI vastu mUl vastu hai, asal hai. Alamban usakA lenA hai.

mumukShuH- sAmAnyako pUrI vastu kahanI?

samAdhAnaH- pUrI yAnI usame.n paryAy gauN hotI hai. paryAy bhinna nahI.n ho jAtI, gauN hotI hai. lekin sAmAnya jo TikanevAlA hai, vah mUl hai. vah mUl vastu hai. yah sab usakA svarUp hai. paryAy hai, guN hai.

mumukShuH- nirvikalpa upayogake vakta jo shuddhanayakA Alamban hai aur laDAIke samay shuddhanayakA nira.ntar Alamban hai, un dono.n shuddhanayame.n kyA a.ntar hai?

samAdhAnaH- Alamban ek hI jAtakA hai. parantu us pariNatime.n shuddhi nirmalatA hai. ashuddhi gauN ho gayI. use upayogame.n bhI nahI.n hai. aur svAnubhUtime.n nirvikalpatAkA vedan hai. laDAIme.n nirmalatAkA vedan nahI.n hai. usane Alamban liyA hai j~nAyakakA. nirmalatAkA vedan use jitanA bhinna huA utanA hai. lekin svAnubhUtikI to pUrI alag bAt hai. usame.n pragaTarUpase nirmalatAkA vedan hai. upayogame.n vedan hai.

mumukShuH- laDAIme.n bhI svarUpAcharaN chAritra.. samAdhAnaH- svarUpAcharaN hai, lekin vah vedan alag hai, savikalpatAkA. amuk j~nAyak-orakI shA.nti, tR^ipti hai. parantu svAnubhUtikA vedan hai vah vedan us vakta nahI.n hai. svAnubhUtikA vedan nahI.n hai. usake vedaname.n pharka hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amR^it vANIno jay ho!
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