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mumukShuH- rAg aur trikAlI j~nAyak svabhAvake bIch sandhi hai, vahA.N praj~nAChainI paTakanese bhinna kiyA jA sakatA hai, aisA samayasArame.n AtA hai. to sandhi jaisA kuCh dikhAI nahI.n detA hai, to kaise bhinna karanA?

samAdhAnaH- trikAl svabhAv aur rAg svabhAv na? bIchame.n sandhi hai. svaya.n pahachAne to ho na. j~nAyak svabhAv jAnanevAlA aur yah rAg dono.n bhinna vastu hai. jAnanevAlA jo trikAl j~nAyak jAnanevAlA hai, jAnanevAlA so mai.n aur rAg bhinna hai. rAg vah rAg hI. rAgakA vedan hI alag jAtikA hai aur j~nAnakA bhinna jAtikA hai. j~nAn jAnanevAlA hai, j~nAname.n rAg nahI.n hai, j~nAn to vItarAgI hai, jAnanevAlA hai, usakA jAnanA svabhAv hai aur rAgakA vedan bhinna usakI AkulatAkA vedan bhinna hai. andar gaharAIme.n jAkar dekhe, sUkShma hokar dekhe to j~nAn to j~nAn hai, j~nAn rAg rahit vItarAgI j~nAn hai. yah to rAg hai. rAgakI AkulatA aur rAgakA vedan alag hai aur j~nAnakA vedan alag jAtikA hai. use svaya.n pahachAn sakatA hai, vah usakI sandhi hai. j~nAn jo jAnanevAlA vah mai.n aur rAg bhinna, use lakShaNase pahachAne, vah dono.nkI sandhi hai. sandhi dikhAI de aisI hai. (gaharAIme.n) jAy to sandhiko pahachAn sake aisA hai. praj~nAChainIse apane j~nAyakako pahachAn sakatA hai.

... mArga, svAnubhUtikA mArga j~nAyakakA abhyAs karanese hotA hai. shubhabhAv to usake sAth rahatA hai. svabhAvako pahachAne, svabhAvakI mahimA lage, svabhAvakI laganI lage to hotA hai. din aur rAt use chain nahI.n paDe, mujhe j~nAyak kaise pragaT ho? jAgate, sote, svapname.n j~nAyakakI laganI lage to hotA hai. aise to nahI.n ho sakatA hai.

mumukShuH- vichArame.n ..

samAdhAnaH- vichArame.n kyA, laganI lage to vichAr Aye. binA laganIke nahI.n hotA hai. mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, mai.n jAnanevAlA hU.N. sirpha bolanese kyA hotA hai? bhItar vichAr kare to bhI bhItarame.n j~nAyakakI laganI lage to hove. aise nakkI karanA ki mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N. j~nAn lakShaNase pahachAnA jAtA hai, pahachAnaneme.n AtA hai. to bhI usakI laganI tab hotA hai. pahale nirNay karanA ki mai.n j~nAnasvabhAvI hU.N. parantu j~nAnasvabhAvIkA prayatna kaise

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ho? ki laganI lage to prayatna ho sakatA hai, binA laganIke nahI.n ho sakatA hai. mAtra bolanese yA aise hI raTane nahI.n hotA hai.

yathArtha samajhe, yathArtha. sthUl Upar-Uparase samajhanese nahI.n hotA hai. yathArthath svabhAvakA lakShaN pahachAnakar, bhItarame.nse usakI laganI lage to hotA hai. aise nahI.n ho sakatA. raTane mAtrase yA bolane mAtrase nahI.n hotA hai. vah to ThIk hai ki aisA vichAr kare to bhI achChA hai, lekin vichArake sAth usakI mahimA lage, vibhAvakA ras ChUT jAy, tabhI hotA hai.

mumukShuH- pUjya mAtAjI! svAnubhUtike kAlame.n jo Ananda AtA hai vah sarvA.ngase AtA hai yA amuk pradesho.nme.n AtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- sarva guNA.nsh so samyagdarshana. sab guNo.nkA a.nsh nirmal hotA hai. amuk pradeshake sAth usakA koI sambandha nahI.n hai. asa.nkhya pradeshI AtmA hai. usame.n sarva guNA.nsh so samyakatva. sarva guNo.nkA a.nsh usame.n nirmal hotA hai. shAstrame.n AtA hai ki manakA nimitta hotA hai. parantu manakA vikalpa to gauN ho jAtA hai. aise do bhAg nahI.n ho jAte. sarva guNA.nsh so samyagdarshana. sarva guNo.nkA a.nsh usame.n pragaT hotA hai. usake pradeshakA khaNDa (nahI.n hotA). amuk pradeshame.n Ave, amuk pradeshame.n nahI.n AtA, (aisA nahI.n hai). vah to kahaneme.n AtA hai ki man dvArA hR^idayakamalame.n hotA hai, parantu usame.n sarva guNA.nsh so samyagdarshan, sarva guNo.nkA a.nsh pragaT hotA hai. vah to nimittase kahaneme.n AtA hai ki man.. man to, vikalpa to gauN ho jAtA hai-vikalpa to ChUT jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- sarvA.ngase Anandako jAnate bhI hai.

samAdhAnaH- Anandako jAnatA hai.

mumukShuH- sarvA.ngase jAnatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- sarvA.ngase jAnatA hai. ... kevalaj~nAn to huA nahI.n. svAnubhav ek sAdhak dashAkI pragaT huyI hai. parantu jAnaneme.n AtA hai. usakA pradesh par dhyAn bhI nahI.n hai. kaunase pradeshase AyA aur kaunase pradeshame.n nahI.n AyA, pradeshake khaNDa par usakA dhyAn bhI nahI.n hai. AtmA akhaNDa hai. AtmAme.n koI khaNDa hotA nahI.n. kShetrakA khaNDa vAstavikame.n hotA hI nahI.n. usakA pradesh par dhyAn bhI nahI.n hai. mai.n sarvA.nshase jAnatA hU.N ki sarva pradeshase jAnatA hU.N, usakA pradesh par dhyAn nahI.n hai, kShetra par dhyAn nahI.n hai.

svAnubhUti, usake svabhAvame.n lInatA huyI, j~nAnasvabhAv j~nAyakame.n lInatA huyI. pradesh par dhyAn hai vah bhed par dR^iShTi hai. aise bhed par usakI dR^iShTi nahI.n jAtI hai. usame.n sahaj jAn letA hai. guN, paryAy sab jAnaneme.n AtA hai. pradesh bhinna, yah bhinna aisI

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bhinnatA par usakA dhyAn bhI nahI.n hai. jo hotA hai,.... pradeshakA khaNDa nahI.n hotA hai.

mumukShuH- pUjya mAtAjI! ek prashna aur hai. j~nAnIko nishchay-vyavaharakA sumel hotA hai, to ashubhake kAlame.n vyavahArakA sumel hotA hai?

samAdhAnaH- kyA? j~nAnIko...

mumukShuH- nishchay-vyavahArakA sumel rahatA hai, jab ashubhakA kAl rahatA hai, us kAlame.n vyavahArakA sumel kaise banegA? ashubhabhAv ho us vakta vyavahArakA sumel kis prakAr hai?

samAdhAnaH- jAnatA hai. dravyadR^iShTise svabhAv par dR^iShTi hai, j~nAname.n jAnatA hai ki shubhAshubh bhAv sab vyavahAr hai. sAdhakadashA vyavahAr hai. darshan, j~nAn, chAritrakI jo nirmal paryAy pragaT hotI hai, vah bhI vyavahAr hai, bhed vyavahAr hai aur shubhAshubh bhAv hai vah bhI vyavahAr hai. ashubhabhAv bhI vyavahAr hai aur shubhabhAv bhI vyavahAr hai. ashuddhanishchayanayase shubhabhAv aur ashubhAv, ashuddha nishchayanayase chaitanyakI paryAyame.n hote hai.n, usako vyavahAr kahaneme.n AtA hai. vah sab vyavahAr hI hai. vyavahAr sAthame.n hai. shubh-ashubh dono.n vyavahAr hai. ek shubh vyavahAr hai aisA nahI.n hai, ashubh bhI vyavahAr hai.

pA.Nchave guNasthAname.n aNuvratakA hotA hai, chauthe guNasthAname.n dev-guru-shAstra AdikA shubhabhAv rahatA hai, us bhUmikAke yogya shubhabhAv rahatA hai. sAdhakadashAke sAthame.n shubhabhAv rahatA hai, usake yogya ashubhabhAv rahatA hai, jo usakI bhUmikA hai. usake yogya rahatA hai. j~nAyakako bhUlakar, j~nAyakako ChoDakar usako ashubhabhAv nahI.n hotA hai. j~nAyakako bhUl gayA aur ashubhavame.n ekatvabuddhi ho gayI, aisA j~nAnIko nahI.n hotA hai. bhItarame.n ana.ntAnuba.ndhIkA ras TUT gayA, chauthe guNasthAname.n ana.ntAnuba.ndhIkA ras TUT gayA to j~nAyakakI maryAdA toDakar ashubhabhAvame.n aisA nahI.n chalA jAtA ki j~nAyakakI maryAdA TUT jAy, aisA nahI.n hotA. ashubhabhAv Ave to bhI bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA to banI rahatI hai. bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA ashubhabhAvame.n bhI rahatI hai aur shubhabhAvame.n bhI rahatI hai. dono.nme.n rahatI hai. usake yogya shubhabhAv AtA hai aur ashubhabhAv bhI usakI bhUmikAke yogya hotA hai.

j~nAyakakI maryAdA toDakar usame.n ekatva nahI.n hotA. j~nAyakakI pariNati chalatI rahatI hai. ashubhabhAv hove to bhI j~nAyakakA bhedaj~nAn chAlU hI rahatA hai. aise ashubhabhAv usako maryAdA toDakar nahI.n hotA hai. jaisA aj~nAnIko hotA hai, vaisA usako nahI.n hotA hai. use gauN ho gayA hai, nahI.n ho sakatA. aisA mel rahatA hai. bhUmikAko toDakar aisA ashubhabhAv bhI nahI.n hotA hai. sAdhakadashAme.n aisI sa.ndhi rahatI hai. dravyadR^iShTikI mukhyatA aur sAthame.n vyavahAr, bhUmikAke yogya shubh aur ashubh dono.n huA karate hai.n.

mumukShuH- dono.nme.n kyA a.ntar hai?

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samAdhAnaH- shuddhaupayog to svarUpame.n lIn ho jAy, use shuddhaupayog kahaneme.n AtA hai. shuddha pariNati dono.n samay (rahatI hai). bAhar savikalpa dashAme.n hove to bhI shuddha pariNati rahatI hai. shuddha pariNati chAlU rahatI hai. bAharame.n shubhaupayog hove yA ashubhaupayog ho, upayog bAhar hove to bhI pariNati-shuddha pariNati to chAlU hI rahatI hai. bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati chAlU rahatI hai. usako shuddha pariNati kahaneme.n AtA hai. sahaj j~nAyakakI pariNati rahatI hai, shuddha pariNati chAlU rahatI hai. upayog bAhar hove to bhI shuddha pariNati chAlU rahatI hai. svarUpame.n lIn hove to shuddha pariNati aur shuddhaupayog dono.n hote hai.n.

... gurudev virAjate the us vakta yah kuCh nahI.n thA. mai.n to mandirame.n baiThI rahatI thI.

mumukShuH- .. darshan karanekI ichChA ho..

samAdhAnaH- .. andar AtmAkA vahA.N baiThe-baiThe... gurudevane bahut spaShTa kiyA hai. shAstrame.n to sab AtA hI hai ki bhagavAn mahAvidehakShetrame.n virAjate hai.n. sIma.ndhar bhagavAn mahAvidehame.n virAjate hai.n. pA.Nch videh hai usame.n sabame.n bhagavAn virAjate hai.n. ja.nbU dvipame.n mahAvideh hai usame.n sIma.ndhar bhagavAn virAjate hai.n. puShkalAvatI (nagarIme.n) bhagavAn virAjate hai.n. sIma.ndhar bhagavAn samavasaraName.n virAj rahe hai.n. ... yahA.N vItarAgadevakA virah huA hai. kevalaj~nAnI yA vItarAg ...

divyadhvani ChUT rahI hai, samavasaraN hai, dev aur indro.n Uparase Ate hai.n, munio.nkA samUh hai. bhagavAnakI divyadhvani sunakar bahut muni hote hai.n, shrAvak hote hai.n, samyagdR^iShTi hote hai.n.

mumukShuH- kundakunda bhagavAn vahA.N padhAre ho.nge us vakta to Apane sAkShAt unakI mukhamudrA dekhI hogI. Apako to barAbar..

samAdhAnaH- munirAjakI kyA bAt karanI? kundakundAchArya mahA samartha munirAja.

mumukShuH- Ap maujUd the. ApakI maujUdagI, gurudevakI maujUdagI..

samAdhAnaH- bhagavAn samavasaraName.n mahAvideh kShetrame.n virAjate hai.n.

mumukShuH- bhagavAnakI divyadhvani ChUTatI ho tab to..

samAdhAnaH- jis gA.Nvame.n virAjate ho.n, vahA.N roj jAnA hotA hai. bhagavAn to vihAr karate hai.n. vihAr kare tab vihArame.n jo sAthame.n rahate hai.n, ve nira.ntar sunate hai.n. ek gA.Nvase dUsare gA.Nvame.n bhagavAn vihAr karate hai.n. usame.n jo shrAvak dUsare gA.Nvame.n jAte hai.n, ve sab nira.ntar sunate haiai.n. jis gA.Nvame.n bhagavAn virAjate hai.n, vahA.N nira.ntar sunanekA yog banatA hai.

mumukShuH- bhagavAnakA vihAr hotA hogA, gati ekadam tej hotI hogI. jaise yah

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moTar, plen jAte hai.n vaise gati hogI? yA sAmAnyarUpase..

samAdhAnaH- bhagavAnakA vihAr? bhagavAn to AkAshame.n chalate hai.n. bhagavAn AkAshame.n chalate hai.n. nIche dev kamalakI rachanA karate hai.n. bhagavAnake charaN jahA.N paDe vahA.N dev suvarNa kamal rachate hai.n. mAno bhagavAn kamalame.n chalate ho, aisA lage!

mumukShuH- bhagavAn to Upar virAjate hai.n to ashakta AdamI Upar kaise jA sake?

samAdhAnaH- bhagavAnake samavasaraNakI siDhIyA.N chaDhe to ashakta ho vah shaktaktivAn ho jAtA hai. ashakta koI rahatA hI nahI.n. shAstrame.n AtA hai. bahere sunane lagate hai.n, aisA AtA hai. bhagavAnakA atishay aisA hai. gU.nge bolane lagate haiai.n, a.NdhA dekhane lagatA hai. siDhIyA.N chaDhaneme.n use koI takalIph nahI.n hotI hai.

... samyagdarshanake ekadam samIp A jAy, usakI vichAradhArA alag jAtakI hotI hai. parantu usake pahale jise jij~nAsA hai to jij~nAsA kare ki AtmA kaisA hai? kaise pahachAnA jAy? usakI laganI lagAye. AtmA jAnanevAlA hai, j~nAyak hai. yah sharIr mai.n nahI.n hU.N, yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai, AkulatArUp hai. mai.n jAnanevAlA ek j~nAyakatattva anAdiananta shAshvat hU.N. usakA vichAr karatA rahe. mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, mai.n Anandase bharA AtmA hU.N, usake vichAr karatA rahe. shAstrame.n jo (AtA hai ki) dravya-guN-paryAy AtmAke kyA? paradravyake kyA? un sabakA vichAr karatA hai. use ek AtmAke sivA kahI.n chain nahI.n paDatA. kahI.n or ruchatA nahI.n. ek AtmAke sivA kahI.n ruchatA nahI.n. vikalpame.n usakA man TikatA nahI.n. bAr-bAr AtmAkI or jAtA hai. AtmA kaise pahachAnU.N? aisI laganI use din aur rAt lagI hai. ekadam samIp ho jAy, usakI to kyA bAt karanI? use to ekadam tIvra laganI lagI hai. AtmA.. AtmAke sivA use kahI.n ruchatA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- ...

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, shubhabhAv hotA hai, lekin ekadam laganI lagI hotI hai. vikalpa mujhe nahI.n chAhiye, j~nAyak kaise pragaT ho, aisI andarase gaharAIse laganI lagI hotI hai. shubhabhAv hote hai.n, parantu AtmA jAnanevAlA hai vah mai.n hU.N, aise lakShaNase pahachAnakar nakkI kare ki yah jAnanevAlA hai vahI mai.n hU.N, usake sivA bAkI sab mujhase bhinna hai, vah merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. yah sab mujhase bhinna par hai. merA svabhAv bhinna hai, yah vibhAv hotA hai vah bhI merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. aisI use laganI lagI hai. mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N, aisA nirNay karake Age jAtA hai. nishchay karake. yah shubhabhAv mai.n nahI.n hU.N, mai.n to jAnanevAlA hU.N. tIvra laganI lagI hai. bAra.nbAr mai.n jAnanevAlA hU.N. chAhe jo vikalpa Aye, shubhabhAv Aye to bhI mai.n jAnaneAlA, jAnanevAlA, aisI use a.ntarame.nse dR^iDhatA aur amuk prakArase

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aisI pariNati hotI hai. vAstavik to bAdame.n hotA hai, parantu use aisA dR^iDh nirNay hotA hai.

mumukShuH- AtmA itanA shaktishAlI hone par bhI hAthame.n nahI.n AtA, to yah kamajorI kyo.n rah jAtI hai?

samAdhAnaH- AtmA..?

mumukShuH- shaktishAlI honepar bhI hAthame.n nahI.n AtA hai.

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n AtA hai, vah apanI kShati hai. shaktivAn hone par bhI nahI.n AtA hai. svaya.n parapadArthame.n ruchi rakhakar paDA hai, AtmAkI ruchi karatA nahI.n. ananta shaktivAn aur ananta mahimAva.nt hai. svaya.nko mahimA nahI.n AtI hai. ananta shaktivAnakA use nirNay nahI.n AtA hai, use dR^iDhatA nahI.n hotI hai ki mai.n shaktishAlI hU.N. mai.n ananta sAmarthyavAn hU.N, use svaya.nko shraddhA nahI.n hotI hai. isaliye pragaT nahI.n hotA hai. shraddhA ho to pragaT hotA hai.

mumukShuH- shraddhA kaise karanI?

samAdhAnaH- shraddhA to shraddhA karanese shraddhA hotI hai. sab sha.nkA ChoDakar andar samajhakar shraddhA kare. yah jAnanevAlA hai vahI mai.n hU.N. mai.n ananta sAmarthyase bharapUr AtmA hU.N. yah sab mai.n nahI.n hU.N. mai.n to ananta shaktivAn hU.N. yah koI mujhe rokate nahI.n. karma mujhe rokatA nahI.n yA parapadArtha rokate nahI.n. mai.n to ananta shaktishAlI AtmA hU.N. aisI shraddhA kare to hotI hai. kiye binA nahI.n hotI.

.. ananta bAr gayA lekin vApas AyA. samavasaraName.n ananta bAr gayA parantu bhagavAnako pahachAnA nahI.n. bhagavAn kise kahate hai.n? bhagavAnakA sab bAharase dekhA. bhagavAnakI R^iddhi, samavasaraN.. yah bhagavAn hai aisA mAn liyA. aisI R^iddhi ho vah bhagavAn aur gandhakUTIme.n pIThikA par baiThe ho vah bhagavAn, aisI vANI ChUTe vah bhagavAna. a.ntarame.n bhagavAn kaise, use bhagavAnakI mahimA AyI nahI.n. bhagavAnakI vANIme.n kyA AtA hai, usakA vichAr karake grahaN kiyA nahI.n. bhagavAnakI a.ntarase mahimA nahI.n AyI. aise ogheoghe bhagavAnakI mahimA AyI. binA samajhe hI yah bhagavAn hai, aisA mAn liyA. bhagavAnakA sharIr aisA hai, bhagavAnakI vANI aisI hai, aise sab Upar-Uparase mAn liyA. a.ntarase bhagavAnako nahI.n pahachAnA. bhagavAnakA dravya kyA? bhagavAnakA guN kyA? bhagavAnakI paryAy kyA? kuCh nahI.n pahachAnA. isaliye samavasaraName.nse vApas AyA. bhagavAn kise kahate hai.n, a.ntarame.nse vah mahimA nahI.n AyI hai. isaliye vApas AyA hai.