Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 76.

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mumukShuH- ... pUjya bhagavatI mAtA! vartamAn ... jo koI ham jaise pApI pravachanakAr ban jAy aur kahate hai.n ki yah deshanAkA nimitta ban jAy to gurudevashrIke pravachaname.n to aisA AtA thA ki jab-jab jisako AtmAkI a.ntar dR^iShTi aur anubhav hogA, us samayame.n koI a.ntaradR^iShTi guru hI nimitta hotA hai. shAstra, aj~nAnI guru diga.nbarame.n janmA ho, jo dravyali.ngapaneme.n bhI AtA ho, parantu siddhAntame.n to anubhUtivAlA guru hI us anubhUtivAleke nimitta hogA, aisA...

samAdhAnaH- aisA nahI.n ban sakatA. jisako svAnubhUti nahI.n huyI, usakA vachan dUsareko deshanAlabdhikA kAraN nahI.n ban sakatA. svaya.n vyAkhyAn kare, sab kare parantu vah to svAdhyAy hai ek prakArakA. parantu usakA nimitta to jisako pratyakSha svAnubhUti huyI ho, svAnubhUtikI dashA, bhedaj~nAnakI dashA (pragaT huyI ho), usakI deshanAlabdhikA kAraN banatA hai. dev aur guru, jisako a.ntarakI dashA pragaT huyI hai, aise guru deshanAlabdhikA nimitta banate hai.n. jise a.ntar chaitanya pragaT huA hai, usakI vANI nimitta banatI hai. vANI mAtra sunI ho utanA hI nahI.n, svaya.nko a.ntarame.n kuCh apUrvatA lage. sunanese sabako deshanAlabdhi ho jAy aisA nahI.n hai. jisakI pAtratA ho use hotI hai.

bahut bAr vANI to sunI hai, bhagavAn mile hai.n, sab huA hai parantu a.ntarame.n svaya.nkI taiyArIke binA kuCh kar nahI.n sakA. guru mile, bhagavAn mile mAtra sunanese (nahI.n hotA hai). a.ntarakI taiyArI kare.... nimitta-upAdAnakA sambandha honA chAhiye. nimitta to prabal hai. bhagavAnakI vANIkA nimitta prabal hai. gurukI vANI...

gurudev yahA.N pa.nchamakAlame.n padhAre. unakI vANIkA nimitta prabal thA. parantu jo pAtra ho use deshanAlabdhi pragaT hotI hai. pAtratA svaya.nkI chAhiye. nimitta aur upAdAnakA sambandha (tab hotA hai).

mumukShuH- us vakta use a.ntarame.nse kisI bhI prakArakA anya bhAv utpanna nahI.n huA, isaliye jo sunA vah use khyAlame.n A gayA ho, bAdame.n us bhAv parase svaya.n apane bhAvako jAgR^it kar sakatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- pratyakSha vANI sunI ho, vah pratyakSha hai. karanA kyo.n? svaya.n taiyArI


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karanI, to deshanAlabdhi ho hI gayI hai, aisA mAn lenA. svaya.n jij~nAsA taiyAr kare aur gurudevane jo kahA ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, mai.n AtmA hU.N, yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai, mai.n usase bhinna hU.N. andar aisI dR^iDh pratIt karake bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA pragaT karake svaya.n puruShArtha kare to samajh lenA ki deshanAlabdhi ho gayI hai.

jo apragaT hai, use kahA.N khojane jAnA? usakA sa.ntoSh mAnanA,... apragaTako khojanA usake bajAy jo pragaT ho sakatA hai use pragaT karanA. pahale hamane sunA hai, deshanAlabdhi huyI hogI ki nahI.n? ab pragaT hogI ki nahI.n? aisA vichAr karaneke badale svaya.n j~nAyakakI pratIti dR^iDh karanI. jij~nAsA, laganI lagAnI. j~nAyakakI pratIti dR^iDh karanI. bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA, dravya par dR^iShTi, yathArtha j~nAn, yathArtha dR^iShTi sab taiyArI karanekA svaya.n prayatna karanA. sab pAtratA taiyAr karanI. puruShArtha kare to phir koI rokatA nahI.n. svaya.n puruShArtha kare to usame.n koI rokanevAlA nahI.n hai. svaya.n svata.ntra hai, use jitanI bhI taiyArI karanI ho (usame.n). taiyArI kare to samajh lenA, taiyArI ho jAy to mAn lenA ki deshanAlabdhi ho gayI hai. huyI hai yA nahI.n huyI hai, aise apragaTako khojane jAneke bAvajUd svaya.n andarase taiyArI karanI.

bhagavAnakI vANIkA dhodh barasatA ho, unakI vANIke nimittase anek jIvo.nko samyagdarshan hotA thA, anek jIv munidashA a.ngIkAr karate, anek jIvo.nko kevalaj~nAn hotA thA, sab hotA thA. puruShArtha svaya.n kare to (hotA hai).

vaise hI gurudevakA dhodh barasatA thA, usame.n deshanAlabdhi na ho aisA nahI.n banatA. bahut jIvo.nko hotI hai. jisakI pAtratA ho (use hotI hai). unakI vANIkA dhodh barasatA thA. use khojane jAy aur sa.ntuShTa honA, isake bajAy svaya.n taiyArI vartamAn puruShArtha karake kare. ... vaise gurudevakI vANI aisI thI ki anek jIvo.nko ruchi taiyAr ho jAye, svarUp sanmukh ho jAye, aisI gurudevakI vANI thI. yah to pa.nchamakAl hai, isaliye munidashA aur Age baDhanA bahut durlabh hai. lekin gurudevakI vANIkA dhodh aisA thA ki sabako ruchi pragaT ho, andarase mArga prApta ho jAye, ho sake aisA thA. svaya.n andarase taiyArI karake, svaya.n andarase j~nAyakakI pratIti dR^iDh kare, apane hAthakI bAt hai.

... vah sab to hotA hai. svaya.n puruShArtha kare, pAtratA taiyAr kare, vah sab apane hAthakI bAt hai. gurudevane kahA hai vahI kahanA hai. svaya.n a.ntarame.nse jo gurudevane kahA hai vah karanA hai. isaliye svaya.nko pAtratA taiyAr karanI hai. usakA kAraN svaya.nkI kShati hai, svaya.nkA pramAd hai. koI rokatA nahI.n hai. svaya.n bAhar aTakA hai, apanI ruchikI kShati hai. svaya.nko utanI laganI nahI.n lagI hai ki mujhe AtmAkA karanA hI hai. mujhe bhavakA abhAv kaise ho? mujhe AtmA kaise pragaT ho? j~nAyak kaise samajhame.n Aye?


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chaitanyadev kaise samajhame.n Aye? utanI svaya.nko andar lagI nahI.n hai, laganI nahI.n lagI hai, usakI jarUrat nahI.n lagI hai. bAhar rukA hai, puruShArtha uThanA use mushkil paDatA hai. svaya.nko andar lagI hai to kare binA rahe nahI.n ki yahI karanA hai, dUsarA kuCh nahI.n karanA hai. svaya.nkI kShati hai.

mumukShuH- navakAr mantrake andar dravyali.ngI munirAjako bhI svIkAr nahI.n kiyA ki kiyA?

samAdhAnaH- navakAr mantrame.n namaskAr Ate hai.n usame.n? vah sab bhAvali.ngI muni hai.n, bhAvali.ngI muni hai.n, sachche muni hai.n. AchArya, upAdhyAy, sAdhu sab bhAvali.ngI muni hai.n. unako namaskAr kiyA hai.

mumukShuH- bhAvali.ngI bhagava.nto.nko hI navakAr mantrake andar liyA gayA hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N. muniko liye hai.n. a.ntarame.n jo ChaThThe-sAtave.n guNasthAname.n jhulate munirAj hai.n. diga.nbar dashA a.ntarame.n aur bAhya. jise a.ntarame.n a.ntara.ng dashA pragaT huyI hai, ChaThThe- sAtavA.N guNasthAnakI, a.ntarmuhUrta-a.ntarmuhUrtame.n svAnubhUti pragaT hotI hai. a.ntarmuhUrta bAhar Aye, a.ntarmuhUrtame.n andar jAte hai.n. aisI jinakI dashA hai, aise munirAjako grahaN karanA.

mumukShuH- ... hamArA kuCh kalyAN ho.

samAdhAnaH- mArga to ek hI hai, AtmAkI ruchi baDhAnI, j~nAyakako pahachAnanA. AtmA par-dravya par dR^iShTi karanI, bhedaj~nAn karanA, vahI karanekA mArga ek hI hai. shrImadane bhI vahI kahA hai aur gurudevane vah kahA hai. mArga to ek (hI hai)-AtmAko (pahachAnanA). vibhAv apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai, (usase) bhinna paDanA vah hai.

mumukShuH- vah baDhAne jAte hai.n, vahA.N bAhya audayik bhAv aur bAhya vyavahArame.n aTak jAnA hotA hai. mumukShukI kaisI bhUmikA honI chAhiye?

samAdhAnaH- usakA ras svaya.nko andar paDA hai. chaitanyakI orakA ras baDhAnA chAhiye. bAharake ras phike paD jAye. a.ntarakA ras baDhAnA chAhiye, ruchi baDhAnI chAhiye. andar use khaTak rahanI chAhiye ki mujhe AtmA kaise pahachAname.n Aye? AtmAme.n hI sarvasva hai, bAhar kahI.n nahI.n hai. AtmA hI sarvasva anupam padArtha hai aur adabhUt padArtha hai, usakI mahimA AnI chAhiye. bAharame.n use ras Aye, (vah) ras phike paD jAye to svaya.nkI or jhuke.

shubh pariNAmame.n dev-guru-shAstra aur a.ntarame.n merA shuddhAtmA mujhe kaise pahachAname.n Aye? aisI ruchi andar bAra.nbAr (honI chAhiye), bAra.nbAr khaTak rahanI chAhiye ki karanA andar hai, bAhar jAnA vah chaitanyakA svarUp nahI.n hai. mujhe chaitanya kaise pahachAnaneme.n Aye? aisI ruchi andar (hokar) bAra.nbAr dR^iDhatA karanI chAhiye. ekatvabuddhi to anAdikI ho rahI


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hai. andarame.n kShaN-kShaName.n svaya.n prayAs karatA nahI.n. kShaN-kShaName.n ekatvabuddhi khaDI hai. thoDA karake use aisA lagatA hai ki bahut kiyA. a.ntarame.n kShaN-kShaName.n, mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, yah (vibhAv) merA svarUp nahI.n hai. aise mahimA lAkar honA chAhiye. j~nAyak koI mahimAva.nt padArtha hai. bolane mAtra nahI.n, j~nAyak aisA jAnA, jAnane mAtra j~nAyak aisA nahI.n. j~nAyak ek adabhUt padArtha hai. usakI mahimA lAkar bAr-bAr kShaN-kShaName.n usakI laganI lage, bAra.nbAr us orakA puruShArtha kare to hotA hai.

mumukShuH- shAstra shravaN jyAdA hotA hai ki jin pratimAke darshan hote hai.n ki tattva vichAr jyAdA hote hai.n? ek karane jAte hai.n to dUsareme.n aTak jAte hai.n, dUsareme.n karane jAte hai.n to tIsareme.n aTak jAte hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- dhyey ek shuddhAtmAkA (honA chAhiye). tattvakA vichAr kare, parantu tattva vichAre, pUjAse, usakI bhaktise use yadi shAnti lagatI hai aur AtmAke vichAr sphurit hote ho to aisA kare. shAstra svAdhyAyame.n use ras lagatA ho to vaise kare. svaya.nkI jis prakArakI yogyatA ho, vahA.N ruke, parantu dhyey ek (honA chAhiye ki) mujhe shuddhAtmA kaise pahachAname.n Aye? tattva vichAr karake andarame.n nirNay kare ki mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N. sachchI samajh kaise ho? tattva vichAr karake andar nirNay karanekA prayatna kare. bAkI jahA.N use ras lage vahA.N ruke. yahI.n rukanA yA vahI.n rukanA aisA nahI.n hotA.

sachchA j~nAn andar ho, tattvake vichAr hone chAhiye. lekin prayojanabhUt (honA chAhiye). jyAdA jAne to hI hotA hai, aisA nahI.n hai. ek AtmAko pahachAne to usame.n sab A jAtA hai. AtmAke dravya-guN-paryAy kyA hai? yah pudagal kyA hai?la usake dravya- guN-paryAy kyA hai? do tattva bhinna hai. yah vibhAv apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. amuk prayojanabhUt tattva jAne, isaliye tattva vichAr to bIchame.n Aye binA rahate nahI.n. parantu usame.n adhik dR^iDhatA lAneke liye, use jahA.N ruchi lage vahA.N ruke. jin pratimAke darshaname.n use adhik shAnti aur vichAr sphurit hote ho to vaisA kare. svAdhyAyame.n adhik ras AtA ho to vaise kare. bAkI vichAr, nirNay karake j~nAyakakI or jhukanA hai. sabame.n dhyey ek hI honA chAhiye ki mujhe bhedaj~nAn ho aur AtmAkA svarUp kaise samajhame.n Aye? dravya par dR^iShTi kaise ho? dhyey to ek hI honA chAhiye. bAharame.n rukanese sab ho nahI.n jAtA, karanA a.ntarame.n hai. gurukI mahimA kare. gurune kyA kahA hai, usake vichAr kare. jahA.N use ras lage vahA.N rahe. parantu tattva nirNay karake andar Age baDhanA hai.

mumukShuH- umra baDhane lagI hai, kesh shvet hone lage hai.n, yadi svasa.nvedan nahI.n huA to hamArI dashA kyA hogI? ApakA AdhAr milA, phir bhI prApti nahI.n hotI, kyo.n hotA nahI.n? yA phir hamArA j~nAyakakA gholan bolane mAtra hogA yA raTan jaisA hogA?


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samAdhAnaH- jUThA nahI.n parantu prayAs nahI.n karatA hai. yathArtha vastuke Age to sab aisA hai, parantu vah jUThA nahI.n hai. svaya.nko bhAvanA hotI hai. parantu sachchI samajh karake j~nAyakakA Ashray karaneke liye prayAs chAhiye, utanA prayAs nahI.n karatA hai, pramAd hai. satake gahare sa.nskAr paDe, apUrva ruchi a.ntarame.nse ho, kuCh apUrvatA lage to bhI Age jAkar use prApta honekA avakAsh hai. parantu andarame.n use apUrvatA laganI chAhiye. apUrvatA lage, kuCh alag hai, utanA andar Ashcharya laganA chAhiye. abhI use hotA nahI.n hai, prayAs manda hai, parantu yadi a.ntarame.n apUrvatA lagI hai to bhaviShyame.n bhI puruShArtha karake prApta karanekA avakAsh hai. shAstrame.n AtA hai, "tatprati prItichitten yen vArtApi hi shrutA'. a.ntarakI prItise tattvakI bAt sunI hai to bhI vah bhAvi nirvANakA bhAjan hai. parantu vah a.ntarakI prIti kis prakArakI? koI apUrva prIti a.ntarame.nse (Aye), jo kabhI nahI.n AyI, vaisI. is prakAr tattvakI bAt use koI apUrva lage, AshcharyakArI lage aur andar AtmA AshcharyakArI lage to bhaviShyame.n usakA puruShArtha hue binA rahatA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- bAt yathArtharUpase pariNamatI nahI.n hai, to satpuruSh prati premame.n nyUnatA hai? yA .. ho sakatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- satpuruSh prati premame.n nyUnatA aur AtmAkA prem nyUn hai. nimitta- upAdAn ek hai. a.ntarame.n use satpuruSh prati vaisI apUrvatA lagI nahI.n hai, apUrva mahimA AyI nahI.n hai yAnI ki a.ntarame.n AtmAkI mahimA, apUrvatA nahI.n AyI hai. jaisA yahA.N upAdAn aur nimitta,...

jise satpuruShakI apUrva mahimA Aye use AtmAkI apUrva mahimA Aye binA nahI.n rahatI. jise AtmAkI apUrva mahimA Aye use satpuruShakI mahimA Aye binA nahI.n rahatI. use satpuruShakI mahimA, gurukI mahimA apUrva nahI.n AyI hai, to use AtmAkI bhI andarame.n nahI.n lagI hai. AtmAkI laganI hI nahI.n hai. mujhe AtmA kaise prApta ho, aisI gaharI laganI nahI.n hai, isaliye use satpuruShakI apUrva mahimA AtI nahI.n hai. a.ntarame.n lage use mahimA Aye binA rahatI. mahimA jise lage use a.ntarakI ruchi jAgR^it hue binA nahI.n rahatI.

mumukShuH- sajIvanamUrtike lakShya binA kalyAN nahI.n hotA. bahut log kahate hai.n ki gurudevakI Tepase kalyAN ho? viDIyo Tepase kalyAN ho?

samAdhAnaH- sachchA mArga mile, mArga samajhanekA kAraN banatA hai. samajhanekA kAraN banatA hai, parantu deshanAlabdhi to pratyakSha satpuruShase prApta hotI hai. deshanAlabdhi honeke bAd...

j~nAnakI visheSh nirmalatAke liye gurudevakI Tep sabako sAdhan banatA hai. jo satya mArga hai use jAnaneke liye, shAstrake artha kyA hai, shAstrame.n kyA AtA hai, gurudevane sab


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shAstro.nko khole hai.n. vah svaya.nkI matise kholane jAye to khol sake aisA nahI.n hai. gurudevane sab shAstro.nke rahasya khulle kiye hai.n. vah sunanese shAstro.nme.n kyA AtA hai, gurudevane pUrA mArga kyA prakAshit kiyA hai, vah visheSh-visheSh jAnanekA kAraN banatA hai. visheSh- visheSh jAnanekA, visheSh j~nAn honekA kAraN banatA hai.

apane Ap svAdhyAy nahI.n kar sakatA ho, samajhatA nahI.n ho, use Tepame.nse ekadam samajhame.n AtA hai. bAkI sarvapratham jo deshanAlabdhi hotI hai, usame.n to sAkShAt dev, sAkShAt guru, sAkShAt vANIse hI hotI hai.

mumukShuH- pratyakSha hI chAhiye?

samAdhAnaH- pratyakSha. anAdi kAlase jise pratham nahI.n huA hai use pratyakSha nimitta ho to hotA hai. bAkI use amuk ruchi jAgR^it ho jAye bAdame.n visheSh jAnaneke liye gurudevakI vANI Tep rekorDi.ng kAraN banatI hai. kuCh bhI sha.nkA utpanna ho to vah Tepame.nse sha.nkA-samAdhAn sab hotA hai.

deshanAlabdhi huyI hai yA nahI.n, usakA vichAr karanekA koI kAm nahI.n hai. svaya.n andar puruShArtha kare to ho sake aisA hai. deshanAlabdhi to pragaT pakaDame.n Aye aisA nahI.n hai. isaliye svaya.n puruShArtha kare, ruchi jAgR^it kare to use deshanAlabdhi huyI hai, aisA samajh lenA. svaya.n yadi andarase vartamAname.n pragaT kare to usame.n deshanAlabdhi sAthame.n A jAtI hai. svaya.n kare to hotA hai. gurukA nimitta prabal hai, parantu puruShArtha-upAdAn svaya.n taiyAr kare to nimittako grahaN kiyA aisA kahaneme.n Aye. parantu yadi svaya.n puruShArtha nahI.n karatA hai, to nimitta to prabal hai, parantu svaya.n karatA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- .. rah gayI hai, bahut Ashcharya jaisA lagatA hai. bahut Ashcharya jaisA lagatA hai. kyo.nki yah ek baDA ...

samAdhAnaH- mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai ki gurudev yahA.N padhAre aur yah vANI rah gayI. gurudevakI vANI sAkShAt sunaneke liye baraso.n tak logo.nko milI hai. vah bhI mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. gurudev sab mumukShuke bIchame.n rahakar baraso.n tak vANI barasAyI hai, vah mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. aisI sAkShAt vANI milanI mushkil hai, is pa.nchamakAlake andara. aisA sAkShAt gurukA yog aur sAkShAt vANI milanI is pa.nchamakAlame.n atya.nt durlabh hai. usame.n vah milI to mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai. phir taiyArI to svaya.nko karanI hai.

(munirAj to) ja.ngalame.n vicharate hai.n. gurudev, mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai ki yahA.N sabake bIch rahakar vANI barasAyI, sabako unakI aisI apUrva vANI milI, mahAbhAgyakI bAt hai.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amR^it vANIno jay ho!