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mumukShuH- ... koI saral shAstra aisA ho, jisake liye samay kam ho... saral shAstra koI?

samAdhAnaH- samayasArame.n bahut A jAtA hai. samayasAr shAstrame.n. aur gurudevake pravachan hai.n, usame.n bhI bahut AtA hai. gurudevane pravachano.nme.n shAstro.nke rahasya khole hai.n, usame.n bahut AtA hai.

mumukShuH- pravachan ratnAkarame.n kitanA AyA hai.

samAdhAnaH- bahut AtA hai.

mumukShuH- bahut saralase saral..

samAdhAnaH- saral ho jAtA hai. gurudevane bahut shAstro.nke rahasya khol-kholakar saral kar diyA hai saba. mokShamArga prakAshak paDhe to vah bhI achChA hai. gurudevane bahut vANI barasAyI hai. koI sha.nkA na rahe utanA spaShTa kar-karake bahut batAyA hai.

mumukShuH- kholake rakh gaye hai.n ek-ekako...

samAdhAnaH- ek-ek bAtako khol-kholakar batAyA hai, bahut batAyA hai.

mumukShuH- mAph karanA, prashna jarA aisA hai ki, mUrti vagairahakA prakaraN bIchame.n A jAtA hai. isakA thoDA samAdhAn Apase ho sake.

samAdhAnaH- kyA kahate hai.n?

mumukShuH- yah bhAvi tIrtha.nkarakI jo mUrti hai yahA.N par, to usakA prakaraN A jAtA hai. us sambandhame.n Apase kuCh... apanane jo ghAtakI khaNDakI jo bhAvi mUrti banAyI hai.. ham logo.nko aisI kaShAyavAlI bAte.n A jAte hai.n,... jaise kI ham tIrtha yAtrAme.n jAte hai.n, to log kahate hai.n ki ye log apane nahI.n hai, inako mat ghUsane do.

samAdhAnaH- bhAvi tIrtha.nkarakI pratimA virAjamAn kI hai na. bhAvi tIrtha.nkar to ghAtakI khaNDame.n bahut hote hai.n. ghAtakI khaNDame.n, jambU dvIpame.n, puShkar dvIpame.n bhUt-vartamAn- bhAvi sab tIrtha.nkaro.n bahut hote hai.n. jaghanyame.n bIs aur utkR^iShTame.n to bahut hote hai.n. har kShetrame.n hote hai.n. yahA.N to bhAvi tIrtha.nkarakI pratiShThit kI hai. bhAvi tIrtha.nkar to sab

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ho sakate hai.n.

bharat chakravartIne bhUt-vartamAn-bhAvi tIrtha.nkaro.nkI pratimA virAjamAn kI hai. shAstrame.n AtA hai. bharat chakravartIne virAjamAn kI hai. bhUt-vartamAn-bhAvi tIn kAlakI chaubIsIkI pratimA unho.nne virAjamAn kI hai. isame.n to sabakA bhAv thA. parantu pratimA to bhAvi tIrtha.nkarakI pratimA virAjamAn kI hai. usame.n koI nAm to hai nahI.n. bhAvi tIrtha.nkarakI pratimA ghAtakI khaNDakI virAjamAn kI hai. sab log virodh karate hai.n to kyA kare? sabako bhAvanA huyI to virAjamAn kI. sabane virodh kiyA to kyA kare?

mumukShuH- to virodh kaShAyame.n jAyegA?

samAdhAnaH- vah to sabakI bAt sab jAne, aur kyA kare? virodh kisame.n jAyegA? jisako AtmAkA kalyAN karanA hai, vah to aisI bAt nahI.n karate.

mumukShuH- us par vajan nahI.n denA.

samAdhAnaH- tIrtha.nkar bhagavAn to sab kShetrame.n hote hai.n.

mumukShuH- bahinashrI! hamako to itanI upasarga jhelanI paDatI hai ki kahI.n bhI jAye.n...

samAdhAnaH- .. Adarane yogya hai. jinakI mudrA hai, pratiShThit nahI.n ho to bhagavAnakI mudrA bhI AdaraNIy hai. to yah to vItarAgI pratimA hai. isame.n koI anAdar karanA achChA to nahI.n hotA hai. bhagavAnakI mudrA pratiShThit nahI.n hue to bhI bhagavAnakI mudrA hai to usakA anAdar nahI.n karanA. shAstrame.n AtA hai, pAnIme.n le gaye to bhI ashAtanA hotI hai. bhagavAnakI mudrA to... bhagavAnakI mudrA hai, pratimA hai. jineshvar mudrA hai, usame.n...

mumukShuH- dUsare logo.nko matalab jo apanA virodh karate hai.n, unako kaise samajhAye aisI bAt?

samAdhAnaH- jisako AtmAkA kalyAN karanA hai... sab bAharakI bAtame.n sab sabakI jAne. sabakA jhaghaDA sabake pAs raho. apane apanA kalyAN karanA hai. aise logo.nko pakaDakar, jUThA Agrah karake koI kare to karane do, kyA kare? apanA kalyAN apaneko karanA hai. sabako sa.npradAyakA bandhan ho gayA.

mumukShuH- yah bhI ek alag gUTh ban gayA. usame.n bhI gUThabAjI ho gayI. ye mUrtiko mAnanevAle hai.n...

samAdhAnaH- .. kyA hai koI vichAratA nahI.n hai. ... bAt karate hai.n. sabako kriyA ruchatI thI to kriyA karanevAle virodh karate the ki ye muniko nahI.n mAnate hai.n. yah to kAnajIsvAmIko mAnate hai.n. ye kriyAko nahI.n mAnate hai.n, ye to sab bAt uDAte hai.n. aisI bAt karate hai.n. satya bAt Ave tab sab virodh karate hI hai.n, hotA hI hai.

mumukShuH- .. bahut bAdhAe.N AtI hai. pUrvame.n aise hI..

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samAdhAnaH- kyA kare? akhabArame.n sab AtA hai. dUsare gA.Nvame.n dekho, sanAvadame.n, indaurame.n... usame.n virodh kiyA. rathame.n bhagavAnako, kundakundAchAryakI pratimA virAjamAn kI to ek or bhItarame.n bhagavAnakI pratiShThA huyI aur kundakundAchAryadevakI. khIDakIme.n patthar aur dhamAl huyI. bhagavAnakI pratiShThAme.n vighna DAlA. daravAje toD-toDakar...

mumukShuH- abhI samayasAr nadIme.n DAlate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- shAstra nadIme.n DAle to vah kyA hai? shAstro.nkI bhI ashAtanA karate hai.n. bhagavAnake mandirame.n pratiShThA ho to usakI ashAtanA karate hai.n. apanI pakkaD grahaN kar-karake.... AchAryadevake shAstra hai.n, koI gharake thoDe hI hai. shAstrakI ashAtanA karate hai.n.

mumukShuH- ek akShar idhar-Udhar nahI.n hai. jinavANIkA..

samAdhAnaH- kundakundAchAryakI pratiShThA karate hai.n, AchAryadevakI aur bhagavAnakI to sabake sar par patthar (mAre). kisIko khun nikalA, aisA kiyA thA. kyA kare? yahA.N Chape hai.n to gurudevake ho gaye? vah to AchAryadevake shAstra hai.n. AchAyAke shAstra hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- ... AThavA.N dvIp hai, vahA.N aisA mandir hai. vahA.N shAshvat jinAlay hai.n. kisIne banAyA nahI.n hai. kudaratakI rachanA hI aisI hai. jinAlay rach gaye hai.n. ratnake jinAlay hai.n. nIche sab parvat hai.n. ratikar, a.njanagirI Adi parvat hai.n. un parvato.n par jinAlay hai.n. un jinAlayo.nke andar pratimAe.N hai.n. pA.Nchasau-pA.Nchasau dhanuShake hai.n. aise baDe- baDe pratimA. jaise bhagavAn samavasaraName.n baiThe ho.n, vaise hI yah shAshvat (pratimAe.N hai.n). samavasaraName.n (bhagavAn virAjamAn ho.n) usI tarah bhagavAn baiThe hote hai.n. kisIne banAyA nahI.n hai. jaise patthar kudaratI hai, vaise ratnarUp bane hai.n. pratimAo.nke AkArame.n vah ratnakI pratimAke AkAr pariNamit ho jAte hai.n. aise 52 jinAlay hai.n. ekame.n 108-108 pratimAe.N hai.n. na.ndIshvar hai, yahA.N jambUdvIp hai. dUsarA hai, puShkar dvIp, ghAtakI khaNDa hai. aise Age-Age AThavA.N na.ndIshvar dvIp hai, vahA.N shAshvat jinAlay hai.n.

vahA.N manuShya nahI.n jA sakate hai.n, dev jA sakate hai.n. meru parvat hai vah jambU dvIpake bIchame.n hai. pA.Nch meru hai. usame.n bhI shAshvat jinAlay hai.n. ratnakI pratimAe.N hai.n. jaise bhagavAn hai.n, vaisA hI padmAsan, nAsAgra dR^iShTi (hotI hai), mAtra vANI nahI.n hotI. bAkI sab Chatra, cha.Nvar sarva prakArase bhagavAn kamal par virAjamAn hote hai.n. aisA hotA hai. bhagavAnakI rachanArUp arthAt bhagavAn jagatame.n sarvotkR^iShTa hai.n, to kudaratakI rachanA bhI bhagavAnarUp kudaratI hotI hai, jagatake andara. vahA.N mandir hote hai.n?

mumukShuH- hA.N, mandir hai.

samAdhAnaH- na.ndIshvarame.n kudaratI shAshvat bhagavAn hai.n. pa.nch parameShThI bhagavAn hai.n. ruchi kaise ho? AtmA jagatame.n sarvotkR^iShTa hai. pa.nch parameShThI bhagavAn jagatame.n sarvotkR^iShTa hai.n. pa.nch

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parameShThI par vaisI mahimA Aye aur jaise bhagavAn hai.n, vaisA svaya.nkA AtmA hai. jaise bhagavAnake dravya-guN-paryAy hai.n, vaise apane hai.n. aisI ruchi ho, AtmAkI mahimA Aye, bhagavAnakI mahimA Aye, sab ho to usame.n...

binA vichAr kiye mAlA kare to usame.n to pariNAm kahA.N jAye.nge? bhagavAnakI utanI bhakti honI chAhiye, pa.nch parameShThIkI mahimA honI chAhiye, to pariNAm vahA.N rahe. AtmAkI ruchi nahI.n ho, sa.nsArakI ruchi kam nahI.n huyI ho, mAtra oghe-oghe bAharase apane kuCh kar le, kriyAmAtra karatA ho aur pariNAm to kahI.n ke kahI.n (bhaTakate ho). andar sab ras paDA ho. bhagavAn par utanI bhakti nahI.n ho, AtmAkI ruchi nahI.n ho (kahA.Nse ho)?

mumukShuH- vichAr kare, lekin aisA hotA hai ki yah galat kAm hai, apane satya kare. galatame.nse satya aur shubh-ashubh hI hote rahate hai.n. vahA.Nse Age nahI.n baDhA jAtA. aisA hotA hai ki yah kare.nge to karma bandhe.nge, isase karma ChUTe.nge, parantu usase Age kuCh nahI.n hotA.

samAdhAnaH- AtmAkI ruchi andar honI chAhiye. yah sab paradravya hai, shubhAshubh bhAv merA svarUp nahI.n hai. mai.n bhinna jAnanevAlA j~nAyak hU.N. aise ruchi honI chAhiye. ras bAharakA paDA hai, andar chaitanyakA ras nahI.n AtA, usakI mahimA nahI.n lagatI.

mumukShuH- samyakatva sanmukh mithyAdR^iShTikI dashA kaisI hotI hai?

samAdhAnaH- usakA bAharakA lakShaN to kyA hogA? parantu a.ntarame.n use ekadam AtmAkI laganI lagI ho. ek chaitanya.. chaitanyake sivA kuCh ruchatA nahI.n ho, use andarase bAra.nbAr bhedaj~nAnakA abhyAs chalatA ho. pudagal sharIr so mai.n nahI.n, mai.n AtmA hU.N. yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. aisA Upar-Uparase nahI.n, parantu use gaharAIse (hotA hai). yah chaitanya svabhAv mai.n hU.N, yah mai.n nahI.n hU.N. aisA bAra.nbAr, use bAra.nbAr a.ntarame.nse aisI khaTak, aisA abhyAs use bAra.nbAr-bAra.nbAr chalatA hai. AtmAke sanmukh bAra.nbAr (hotA ho). AtmA kaise grahaN ho? usakI dR^iShTi bAra.nbAr AtmAkI or jAtI ho. kaise AtmA grahaN ho? mujhe AtmA kaise grahaN ho? mujhe AtmA kaise grahaN ho? usakA j~nAn ho, usame.n lIn hoU.N. kShaN-kShaName.n mujhe AtmA hI pragaT ho, dUsarA kuCh nahI.n chAhiye, mujhe ek AtmA hI chAhiye. itanA andarase gaharAIse hotA ho. mai.n parapadArthakA kuCh nahI.n kar sakatA. mere svabhAvakA kartA mai.n (hU.N). parapadArthakA jaisA honevAlA ho vaisA hotA hai, mai.n to j~nAyak j~nAtA hU.N. lekin vaisI pariNati pragaT karaneke liye use a.ntarame.nse gaharAIse khaTak lagatI ho.

bAra.nbAr usakA abhyAs, gaharAIse abhyAs chalatA ho. AtmA grahaN huA ki hogA,

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aisI andar usakI dashA hotI hai. ekadam bhinna kaise hoU.N? use kahI.n ras nahI.n hotA. jo-jo vikalpa Ave usame.n nirasatA lage aur AtmAme.n hI ras lage. AtmAkA svabhAv kaise grahaN ho? usakI sanmukhatA har vakta AtmAkI or jAtI ho. mujhe AtmA kaise grahaN ho? mujhe AtmA kaise grahaN ho? bAra.nbAr usakI dR^iShTi, usakA upayog bAra.nbAr AtmAko grahaN karanekI or usake vichAr chalate hai.n, usakI dR^iShTi bAra.nbAr jAtI hai. a.ntar lakShaN to vah hai ki a.ntarakI pariNati, usakA hR^iday bhIgA huA hotA hai. yah sab ras TUT gaye ho, a.ntarame.nse ekadam AtmAkI gaharI ruchi jAgR^it huI ho.

mumukShuH- svasa.nvedanakI dashA bAra.nbAr AtI hai, unhe.n kis kAraNase bAra.nbAr AtI hai?

samAdhAnaH- bAra.nbAr AtI hai, usakI pariNati vibhAvase bilakUl... use vikalpame.n kahI.n ruchatA nahI.n hai. kahI.n khaDe rahanekA sthAn nahI.n hai. usakI pariNati sabase ChUT gayI hai. sab sa.nkalpa-vikalpa bAharake (ChUT gaye hai.n). sab kaShAy, pratyAkhyA, apratyAkhyAn sab kaShAy ekadam kShay nahI.n hue hai.n, parantu nahI.nke barAbar ho gaye hai.n. mAtra sa.njvalan hai, ekadam patalA sa.njvalana. ashubh to hai hI nahI.n. vah to sattAmAtra hote hai.n. thoDe- thoDe uday ho to, vah to ekadam gauN (ho gaye hai.n). unhe.n upayogame.n nahI.n Ate hai.n, us prakArake ho gaye hai.n. shubh pariNati hai to bhI us shubh pariNatime.n bhI bahut rukate nahI.n hai. bAra.nbAr svAnubhUtikI or jAte hai.n. unhe.n kahI.n rukanekA sthAn bAharame.n nahI.n hai.

unhe.n kahI.n achChA nahI.n lagatA hai. andar chaitanyakI sthiratA, lInatA bahut baDh gayI hai. AhArakA vikalpa Ave, vihArakA vikalpa Ave, aisA kisIko vikalpa AtA hai. to AhAr karate-karate bhI svarUpame.n lIn ho jAte hai.n. bAharase dikhaneme.n nahI.n AtA. kShaN-kShaName.n lIn ho jAte hai.n. unakI vibhAvakI sab pariNati, sab kaShAyo.nki pariNati itanI TUT gayI hai ki bAhar upayog kahA.N khaDA rahe? upayog khaDA rahaneke liye koI sthAn hI nahI.n hai. bAhar upayog kahA.N ruke? sharIr parase bhI rAg uTh gayA hai. sharIrako dekhaneko, kuCh sunanekA, bAharakA koI Ashcharya rahA nahI.n. sharIrame.n dhUp-sardI lage to mujhe kyA? kuCh nahI.n hotA, vah to sharIr hai. vah to pudagalako hotA hai. bAharase to sab ChUT gayA, bAharase sab ras ChUT gaye. itanI ugratA ho gayI, kaShAy bilakUl (kam ho gaye), bhItarame.n sthiratA itanI baDh gayI. bAharase TUT gayA, bhItarame.n svarUpakI ramaNatA itanI jam gayI ki bas, bAra.nbAr svarUpame.n hI jam gaye. vah sab TUT gayA aur svarUpame.n aise jam gaye, aisI lInatA ho gayI ki bAra.nbAr (lInatA ho jAtI hai). ek kShaN bAhar Ave to kShaName.n a.ntarame.n jAte hai.n, kShaName.n bAhar Ave to kShaName.n a.ntarame.n jAte hai.n. itanI bhItarame.n ugra lInatA ho gayI hai. bAra.nbAr nirvikalpa dashA hotI

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hai.

mumukShuH- bADh AtI hai, gurudev pharamAte the.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N. itanI bADh AtI hai, pravAh AtA hai. bas, AtmA.. AtmA.. AtmA. sonekA vikalpa bhI nahI.n, nidrA bhI alpa ho gayI, sab alpa ho gayA. nidrA kaun kare? mai.n to jAgR^it hU.N. nidrA kahA.N AtmAkA svabhAv hai? mai.n to jAgR^it svabhAvI hU.N. aisA ho gayA hai. nidrA bhI TUT gayI, AhAr bhI aisA ho gayA, kahI.n vikalpa nahI.n rukatA. AtmAme.n lInatA ho gayI hai. chaitanyamUrti, mai.n chaitanyamUrti hU.N, chaitanyamUrtirUp ban gayA. ab kevalaj~nAn le itanI (der hai). kevalaj~nAnakI talahaTIme.n A gaye hai.n. bas! aisI dashA ho gayI ki bAra.nbAr bhItarame.n jAte hai.n. aisI munikI dashA hotI hai. lInatA ho gayI hai. a.ntarakI svarUpakI vR^iddhi hotI jAtI hai.

samyagdR^iShTi gR^ihasthAshramame.n hote hai.n to bahut parigrah ho to usakA vikalpa hotA hai. ... muniko sab vikalpa TUT gayA. svarUpame.n aisI lInatA ho gayI, aisI lInatA ho gayI. dravyali.ngI muni sab ChoDakar jAtA hai, vah yathArtha nahI.n hai. yahA.N to svarUpakI lInatA ho gayI hai. vikalpa bhItarase TUT gayA, svarUpakI lInatA ho gayI hai. bhinna ho gaye, sabase bhinna ho gaye. padArtha to bhinna hai. samyagdarshaname.n A.nshik bhinna hue the aur munidashAme.n atya.nt bhinna ho gaye hai.n.

mumukShuH- vastukA svabhAv vaisA hI ho to svaya.nko kuCh phalavAn ho. AtmAkA svabhAv j~nAn, darshan Adi hai, phir bhI usakI paryAyame.n jAnaneke liye itane puruShArthakI AvashyakatA kyo.n?

samAdhAnaH- svabhAv to aisA hai ki svarUpakI or Dhale aisA svabhAv hai. parantu anAdikA aisA ekatvabuddhikA abhyAs ho gayA hai ki usame.n jAnekA puruShArtha (jaldI chalatA nahI.n). pratham bhUmikA vikaT hotI hai. samajh pIChe sab saral hai. pratham to ekatvabuddhi itanI gADh ho gayI hai ki vah ChUTaneme.n usakA ras ChUTatA nahI.n. AtmAkI or jo jAtA hai, samyagdarshan honeke bAd to jaise pAnIkA pravAh yA nadIme.n bADh AtI hai to bADh bADhako khI.NchatI hai. shAstrame.n aisA AtA hai ki AtmAkA svabhAv pragaT ho to hove. bAdame.n to dauDakar svarUpakI or jAtI hai, parantu pahale ekatvabuddhi hai to durlabh ho gayA hai. ekatvabuddhi anAdise aisI gADh ho gayI hai.

anAdi kAl huA, parantu yadi samyagdarshan hove to bAdame.n itanA kAl nahI.n lagatA. svarUpame.n jAneke bAd svarUpakI pariNati svarUpakI or hI jAtI hai. puruShArtha vaisA hI hotA hai. sahaj puruShArtha hotA hai. puruShArtha karaneme.n kaThinatA nahI.n lagatI. bAdame.n usako puruShArtha karaneme.n kaThinatA nahI.n lagatI. sahaj mArga dekhaneke bAd apanA svabhAv hai to

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sahajatAse, sahaj puruShArthase apanI or jAtA hai. pratham bhUmikA jAnatA nahI.n hai, ekatvabuddhi hai, AtmAko pahachAnatA nahI.n hai isaliye kaThin ho gayA hai. svabhAv hai isaliye sugam hai. a.ntarmuhUrtame.n ho jAtA hai, jisako hotA hai usako. nahI.n hove to ana.nt kAl ho gayA. svabhAv hai to svabhAv svabhAvakI or jAtA hai. ek bAr samyagdarshan huA bAdame.n aisA nahI.n ho jAtA, pahale thA vaisA. bAdame.n to use avashya mukti hotI hI hai.