PDF/HTML Page 522 of 1906
single page version

mumukShuH- paryAyake ShaTakArak svata.ntra hai?

samAdhAnaH- dravyadR^iShTise svata.ntra hai. paryAy apekShAse paryAyake svata.ntra aur dravya apekShAse dravyake svata.ntra. bAkI paryAy dravyake Ashrayase hotI hai. dravyake Ashray binA paryAy nahI.n hotI hai. apekShAse use gauN karake svata.ntra kahaneme.n AtA hai. dravyakI apekShAse use svata.ntra kahakar, paryAyako gauN karake use svata.ntra kahate hai.n. vah dravyakI paryAy hai. dravyako ChoDakar paryAy kahI.n alag nahI.n laTakatI hai. paryAy bhinna, ekadam sarva prakArase bhinna ho to vah dUsarA ek dravya ho jAya.

mumukShuH- ..nahI.n jAne huekA shraddhAn kharagoshake sI.ng samAn hai. muniko Agamaj~nAn ho aur ...

samAdhAnaH- kyA? jAnA hai, phir bhI shraddhAn nahI.n hotA? jAnA huA vah aisA jAnA huA kahaneme.n AtA hai. a.ntarase jAnA ho to use shraddhA huye binA nahI.n rahatI. jAnA huA yAnI.. kyA kahA? Agamaj~nAn..?

mumukShuH- Agamaj~nAn ho aur tattvArtha shraddhAn na ho.

samAdhAnaH- Agamaj~nAn to kiyA, lekin yadi a.ntarame.n shraddhA nahI.n kI. arthAt usane shraddhA to aise kI hai, parantu a.ntarase nahI.n kI hai. isaliye vah jAnA hai, vah aisA jAnA hai ki a.ntarakI pariNatiko milAkar nahI.n jAnA hai. kShayopashamase jAnA hai. parantu a.ntarakI pariNatiko milAkar, a.ntarakI pariNatike sAth jo jAnanA chAhiye, vaise nahI.n jAnA hai, isaliye usake sAth tattvashraddhAn nahI.n hai. parantu jisane sachchA jAnA ho, usake sAth tattvArtha shraddhAn hue binA nahI.n rahatA. aur tattvArtha shraddhAn sachchA ho, usake sAth sachchA j~nAn hotA hai.

... duHkh yAnI bahut AkulatA kare, aisA nahI.n hai. andarase svaya.nkI pariNati hI aisI hotI hai ki kahI.n TikatI nahI.n. a.ntarame.n kuCh dUsarA chAhiye. kahI.n shAnti nahI.n lagatI. kR^itrimatAse duHkh hai, duHkh hai, use duHkh nahI.n kahate. ekatvabuddhi ho rahI hai, use kahA.Nse dikhe? ras lagA hai, anukUlatAme.n bah jAtA hai. jo AtmAko pahachAnatA hai, use anukUlatAme.n bhI duHkh lagatA hai. anukUlatA bhI AtmAko sukh denevAlI nahI.n

PDF/HTML Page 523 of 1906
single page version

hai. vah bhI AkUlatArUp hai. vah apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. vah upAdhi hai, vibhAvakI upAdhi hai, anukUlatA hai vaha. devalokakA sukh bhI upAdhi hai. vah AtmAko sukharUp nahI.n hai.

samyagdR^iShTi devalokame.n ho to use a.ntar AtmAme.n sukh lagatA hai, bAhar kahI.n nahI.n lagatA. anukUlatAke ga.nj ho to bhI samyagdR^iShTiko kahI.n sukh nahI.n lagatA. anukUlatAme.n khI.nchAtA nahI.n. aur pratikUlatAme.n ekadam use khed ho jAye aisA bhI nahI.n hai. anukUlatAme.n khI.nchAtA nahI.n aur pratikUlatAme.n shAnti rakhatA hai. pratikUlatAme.n AkulatA nahI.n karate, usame.n bhI shAnti rakhatA hai. anukUlatAme.n bah nahI.n jAte.

aj~nAnadashAme.n usane bhrAntike kAraN isame.n sukh hai, aisA mAnA hai. bah jAtA hai. kisIko vairAgya AyA ho to aisA lage ki yah anukUlatA AtmAkA svarUp nahI.n hai. parantu a.ntarase jo laganA chAhiye, vah alag bAt hai. .. bhI AkulatA hai, anukUlatA bhI upAdhi hai. .. rAj ho to bhI vah upAdhi, AkulatA hai, AtmAkA svarUp nahI.n hai. bAharase jitanA bhI AyA ho, vah AtmAkA nahI.n hai.

svaya.n AtmAkA svabhAv honese a.ntarase jo sukh Aye, vah sachchA sukh hai. svaya.n Aye vaha. ... AyA nahI.n hai, lekin vichAr kare to bAharame.n kahI.n sukh nahI.n hai. usame.n sukh nahI.n hai aur svabhAvakI ruchi kare, prayatna kare to sukh pragaT hotA hai. vichAr kare ki sab vibhAv duHkhamay hai. apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai. svabhAvake Ashrayase sukh, parake Ashrayase duHkh hai.

mumukShuH- Asravose nivR^itti kyo.n nahI.n hotI?

samAdhAnaH- AtmAko pahachAne to Asravo.nse nivR^itti ho. a.ntarame.n AtmAko-j~nAyakako pahachAne, bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati ho, andar vij~nAnaghan svaya.nkA svabhAv hai. us vij~nAnaghan svabhAvame.n pariNati ho, usame.n jamatI jAy to Asravase nivR^itti ho. a.ntarame.n bhedaj~nAn ho to Asravase nivR^itti ho. a.ntarame.n vij~nAnaghan svabhAvako pahachAne binA Asravase nivR^itti nahI.n hotI. andar bhedaj~nAnakI pariNati vij~nAnaghan dashA hue binA Asravase nivR^itti nahI.n hotI.

svabhAvakI pariNati pragaT ho, svabhAvakI kriyA pragaT ho to Asravase nivR^itti ho. j~nAyakako pahachAne. j~nAyakakI shraddhA, j~nAyakakA j~nAn aur j~nAyakame.n amuk prakArase ramaNatA. visheSh ramaNatA to munidashAme.n hotI hai. vij~nAnaghan svabhAv baDhatA jAye, vaise Asravo.nse nivR^itti hotI hai.

mumukShuH- .. vairAgI pariNati?

samAdhAnaH- vairAgI pariNati jo a.ntarame.n hotI hai, vah duHkharUp pariNati... parantu

PDF/HTML Page 524 of 1906
single page version

vah vApas muDatA hai. svabhAvakI or use ruchi ho to vah sachchA vairAgya hai. duHkharUp pariNati nahI.n hai, parantu sachchA vairAgya hai vah duHkharUp pariNati nahI.n hai. duHkhagarbhit vairAgya ho to vah duHkharUp pariNati hai. sachchA vairAgya ho to vah duHkharUp pariNati nahI.n hai. vij~nAnaghan svabhAv baDhatA jAy, usame.n vibhAvase nivR^itti aur vibhAvase virakti hotI hai aur svabhAvakI or pariNati hotI hai. isaliye vah duHkharUp nahI.n hai. virakti dashA, j~nAyakakI pariNati visheSh pragaT hotI jAtI hai.

mumukShuH- shAntirUp hai?

samAdhAnaH- shAntirUp hai. vibhAvakI pravR^ittise nivR^itti ho aur svabhAvakI pariNati hotI hai. virakta dashA. sachchA vairAgya use kahate hai.n ki a.ntarame.n j~nAyakakI pariNati ho aur vibhAvase virakti ho. shAntimay dashA hai. duHkhagarbhit vairAgya ho vah alag bAt hai.

.. j~nAn aur vairAgya sAthame.n rahate hai.n. shAstrako jAnatA hai, sab karatA hai, lekin bhItarame.n yadi vairAgya nahI.n huA to kis kAmakA? akelA shuShkaj~nAn kyA karatA hai? bhItarame.n virakti, vibhAvase virakti honI chAhiye. aur sAthame.n vairAgya hove. sa.nsArame.n achChA nahI.n lage. svabhAvame.n sabakuCh hai. aisI ruchi, nirNay aisA honA chAhiye. mAtra shAstra paDh le, parantu bhItarame.n mai.n AtmAkA kalyAN karu.N, aisA yadi sAthame.n vairAgya nahI.n ho to akelA j~nAn kuCh nahI.n kar sakatA.

koI akelA vairAgya kare ki sa.nsArame.n duHkh hai, aisA hai, aisA karake vairAgya karatA hai, sab ChoD detA hai, tyAg karatA hai, vrat karatA hai, sab karatA hai. parantu jAnA kahA.N? kis mArga par jAnA hai? yah j~nAn nahI.n hove to kis kAmakA? jIvane aisA ananta bAr kiyA. sab duHkh lagA, sa.nsArame.n duHkh hai. sab ChoDakar muni huA, aisA huA. parantu j~nAn nahI.n hai, AtmAkA j~nAn nahI.n huA. vah kis kAmakA? dono.n sAthame.n hone chAhiye.

akelA j~nAn aur akelA vairAgya karanese lAbh nahI.n hotA hai. j~nAnake sAth vairAgya honA chAhiye aur vairAgyake sAth j~nAn honA chAhiye. j~nAn aisA prayojanabhUt to honA chAhiye ki kis mArga par jAnA hai? kahA.N jAnA hai? AtmAkA kyA svabhAv hai? AtmAme.n sukh hai, AtmAme.n Ananda hai. aisA j~nAn honA chAhiye. yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. merA svabhAv j~nAyak svabhAv hai. aisA j~nAn sAthame.n honA chAhiye. AtmAke dravya-guN-paryAyakA (j~nAn honA chAhiye). AtmAkA dravya kyA, guN kyA, paryAy kyA. sabakA j~nAn honA chAhiye.

akelA tyAg kar detA hai, ChoD detA hai. AtA hai na? "yam niyam sa.nyam Ap kiyo, tyAg vairAgya athAg liyo', sab kiyA. parantu yadi Atmaj~nAn nahI.n huA to

PDF/HTML Page 525 of 1906
single page version

sab shubhabhAv huA, puNyabandha huA. nau.nvI graiveyak gayA, lekin AtmAkA j~nAn nahI.n huA to bhavakA abhAv nahI.n huA. shAstra paDh letA hai, parantu bhItarame.n vairAgya nahI.n huA ki yah achChA nahI.n hai, yah paradravya hai. svadravya koI apUrva alaukik chIj hai, isakI mahimA nahI.n kI, vibhAvase virakti-vairAgya nahI.n AyA. akelA shAstrakA svAdhyAy kiyA, parantu bhItarame.n kuCh nahI.n kiyA to bhI lAbh nahI.n huA.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! dravyali.ngI to bahut j~nAn aur vairAgya karatA hai. phir bhI siddhi nahI.n hotI hai?

samAdhAnaH- j~nAn aur vairAgya dono.n karatA hai, parantu j~nAn aisA kiyA ki AtmAkA j~nAn nahI.n kiyA. vairAgya bhI aisA bhItarame.nse nahI.n kiyA. bAharase sab ChoD diyA. sah ChoDakar chalA gayA. aisI kriyA kI, bahut kI. jaisA shAstrame.n AtA hai, aisI bAharase bahut kriyA kI. j~nAn bhI bahut huA. bhItarame.nse gyArah a.ngakA j~nAn ho gayA. lekin bhItarame.n Atmatattvako nahI.n pahachAnA.

mai.n AtmA kaun hU.N? aur merA kyA svabhAv hai? mai.n koI adabhut chaitanya dravya hU.N. aise dravyako pahachAnA nahI.n. usakI mahimA nahI.n AyI. use vairAgya nahI.n huA, bhItarame.nse nahI.n huA. j~nAn bhI huA, vairAgya bhI huA, sab Uparase. gyArah a.ng to bhItarame.nse kShayopasham ho gayA. gyArah a.ngakA (j~nAn huA), parantu mUl prayojanabhUt tattvako nahI.n pIChAnA. j~nAn aur vairAgya dono.n sAthame.n hai. Uparase sAthame.n hue. bhItarame.n jo mUl tattva hai, us tattvako nahI.n pIChAnA. sab bolatA hai, vichAr karatA hai, dravya-guN-paryAy aisA hai, aisA hai, charchA karatA hai, parantu bhItarame.n mUl tattva, chaitanyatattva bhItarame.nse nahI.n pIChAnA. aisA j~nAn kuCh kAmakA nahI.n huA.

vairAgya bhI bhItarame.nse (nahI.n huA). bAharase ChoD diyA, lekin bhItarame.n us shubhabhAvame.n ruchi rah gayI. aisI ruchi rah gayI gaharAIme.n ki use khyAlame.n nahI.n AtA. ashubhabhAvase to vairAgya huA, lekin shubhabhAvame.n ruchi rah gayI. shubhAshubh bhAvase bhI bhinna hU.N. aisA vairAgya bhItarame.nse nahI.n huA. bas, akelA nivR^ittimay chaitanyatattva nirvikalpa tattvame.n hI sukh hai, bAhar kahI.n bhI sukh nahI.n hai, aisA nirNay aur aisI ruchi nahI.n huyI. shubhabhAvame.n ruchi rah gayI.

mumukShuH- vrat, niyam dhAraN kiye use samay ruchi ThIk hai?

samAdhAnaH- vrat, niyam dhAraN kiye lekin bhItarame.n ruchi shubhabhAvame.n rah gayI. shubhabhAvame.n ruchi rah gayI. shubhabhAv bhI AtmAkA svabhAv nahI.n hai. shubhabhAvase devalok hotA hai, parantu bhavakA abhAv nahI.n hotA hai. shubhabhAv bIchame.n hotA hai, lekin vah AtmAkA svabhAv to nahI.n hai. vah bhI vibhAv hai. pravR^ittimay hai, AkulatAmay hai,

PDF/HTML Page 526 of 1906
single page version

duHkharUp hai. bhItarame.n vichAr kare to sab duHkhamay hai. usase bhI bhinna mai.n AtmA hU.N. aisI ruchi nahI.n huyI.

.. AtmAkI ruchi nahI.n huyI. shubhabhAv, thoDA shubhabhAv to honA chAhiye na. shubhabhAvame.n Agrah rah gayA. shubhabhAv hotA hai, jabatak AtmAko nahI.n pahachAne, AtmAme.n lInatA na hove, tab shubhabhAv AtA hai. parantu usame.n ruchi aisI rah gayI ki shubhabhAv honA hI chAhiye. aisA Agrah, aisI buddhi bhItarame.n ho gayI. usakI ruchi ho gayI. siddha bhagavAname.n shubhabhAv nahI.n hai. siddha bhagavAn jaisA AtmAkA svabhAv hai. (shubh aur ashubh) dono.nse bhinna AtmAkA svabhAv hai. dono.nse bhinna AtmAkA svabhAv hai. muni huA to bhI shubhabhAvame.n ruchi rah gayI. devalokame.n gayA to bhI bhavakA abhAv nahI.n huA, devalok huA.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! anubhav honese pahale mumukShu sachchA j~nAn aur vairAgya kar sakatA hai? anubhav honese pahale mumukShu sachchA j~nAn aur vairAgya kar sakatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- pahale sachchA j~nAn, vairAgya kar sakatA hai. parantu yathArthatA, vAstavik yathArthatA to use samyagj~nAn ho tab yathArthatA kah sakate hai.n. lekin us yathArthatAkI bhUmikA mumukShutAme.n kar sakatA hai. yathArthatA pragaT ho, usase pahale yathArthatAkI bhUmikA, yathArthatAke mArga par jA sakatA hai.

use a.ntarame.n ruchi, bhale andarase gaharI pratIti AtmAkA Ashray yathArtha samyagdarshaname.n jo grahaN kiyA vaisI nahI.n hai, to bhI usake mArga par vah jA sakatA hai. mArgAnusArI ho sakatA hai. yah shubhAshubh bhAv merA svarUp nahI.n hai. merA svarUp ek chaitanyatattva koI apUrva mahimAva.nt tattva hai. usakI mahimA Aye, usakI apUrvatA lage, mai.n koI adabhut tattva hU.N, usakI mahimA lage. yah shubhAshubh dono.n bhAv AkulatAmay hai.n, yah duHkhamay hai.n. aise vichAr, aisI pratIti bhI kar sakatA hai.

j~nAn-vairAgya yathArtha kar sakatA hai ki jisake pIChe use avashya samyagdarshan ho, aisI bhUmikAko vah prApta kar sakatA hai. pAnIkI shItalatA dUrase dikhatI hai. pAnIke pAs pahu.NchA nahI.n hai. usakI shItalatA,... usake amuk lakShaNase nakkI kare ki yah j~nAyak svabhAv, jAnanevAlA svabhAv koI adabhut tattva hai, vah koI alag hI hai. usakA nirNay (karane tak) abhI pahu.Nch nahI.n pAyA hai. to bhI vah kar sakatA hai. amuk prakArase nirNay kar sakatA hai. is kAraN, us sambandhit j~nAn, us prakArakA vairAgya, virakti, us prakArakI mahimA karake vah mArgakA anusaraN kar sakatA hai.

... kArya tak pahu.Nchanese pahale usake jaisI bhUmikAme.n sachche mArga par jA sakatA hai. koI apUrva ruchi ho, apUrva deshanAlabdhi a.ntarame.nse ho ki mArga to yahI hai. ye

PDF/HTML Page 527 of 1906
single page version

shubhAshubh bhAvase bhinna ek AtmA vah koI alag tattva hai. aur vahI sarvasva hai. bAharame.n kahI.n bhI sarvasvapanA nahI.n hai. kisI bhI prakArakI visheShatA use nahI.n lagatI, AtmAke sivA. ek AtmA hI sarvasva hai. dUsarA kuCh visheSh (nahI.n hai). jagatakI koI vastu use alaukik nahI.n lagatI, sab laukik lagatI hai. ek alaukik tattva AtmA hai. aisI apUrva ruchi kar sakatA hai. aur is kAraNase vah sachche mArga par jA sakatA hai.