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usase puNya bandhatA hai. svaya.nne usane utanA rAg ChoDA, khAnA-pInA ... AtmAkA svabhAv, yahI AtmAkA svarUp hai. AtmA khAtA-pItA nahI.n. usane tyAg kiyA, ThIk hai, shubhabhAvase puNya bandhatA hai. lekin ...

ek manuShyako kahI.n jAnA ho to kis rAstese jAnA hai, us mArgako jAnanA chAhiye. yahA.Nse bhAvanagar jAnA ho to us rAste par mArgako jAnakar chale to vahA.N pahu.NchatA hai. ulaTe rAste par chale, dUsare rAste par jAye to dUsare gA.Nv pahu.NchatA hai. mArga jAne. mArga jAne binA aisI hI dhUpame.n tapta ho jAye to mArga hAth nahI.n lagatA, mArgako jAnanA chAhiye. jAne to Age baDhe. use jAnanA to chAhiye ki mai.n kahA.N jAU.N? AtmA kyA hai? kyA svarUp hai? kyA mokSha hai? sukh kahA.N hai? duHkh kyo.n hai? kis kAraNase hai? usake kAraN khoje. AtmAkA sukh kaise pragaT ho? vah jAne. jAnakar andar nirasatA A jAye. sa.nsAramA.n use ras nahI.n hotA. andarase ras ekadam ChUT jAye aur udAsInatA A jAye. udAsInatA Aye parantu vah jAne ke is rAste par jAnese-AtmAko pahachAnanese (Age baDhA jAyegA). niras ho jAye, AtmAme.n lIn ho jAye. AtmAko pahachAnakar andar lIn ho, to mArga milatA hai. mAtra bhAgatA rahe to vah shubhabhAv hai, puNyabandha hotA hai.

mumukShuH- kisake dvArA yah sab prApta ho sakatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- jo jAnatA ho (unase). bhagavAnane jo mArga darshAyA, bhagavAnane kyA kahA hai use jAne aur AchArya kyA kahate hai.n, munione kyA kahA hai, guuru kyA kahate hai.n, unake dvArA mArga mile. parantu svaya.n taiyAr ho to mArga mile. guruke mArga par chale. satsa.ngase samajhame.n AtA hai. sAkShAt guru mile, sAkShAt AchArya, muni koI mile (to) unase mArga milatA hai. anAdikA anajAnA mArga samajhe binA svaya.n aise hI kare to aisA to usane anek bAr kiyA hai. tyAg kiyA, sab kiyA, lekin puNyabandha huA. usase dev huA, parantu bhavakA abhAv nahI.n huA. puNya bAndhe to devakA bhav mile, achChe bhAv rakhe to devakA bhav mile. yadi bhAv achChe nahI.n ho, mAtra AhAr ChoDakar bhAv yadi barAbar nahI.n ho to puNyabandha nahI.n hotA hai. parantu bhAv achChe ho to puNyabandha

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hokar dev hotA hai. bhavakA abhAv nahI.n hotA. dev to ananta bAr huA hai. aisA dev ananta bAr huA, pashu ananta bAr huA, manuShya ananta bAr huA, ananta bAr sab huA, parantu bhavakA abhAv nahI.n huA. usI mArgame.n shubhabhAvame.n rahA, parantu usase mArga bhinna hai. AtmAko jAnA nahI.n, isaliye andarase AtmA pragaT nahI.n hotA. andarase nirasatA AnI chAhiye, andarase vairAgya AnA chAhiye. AtmAko pahachAnaneke liye prayatna kare to AtmA prApta hotA hai.

mumukShuH- pratham bhUmikAme.n kyA karanA chAhiye?

samAdhAnaH- kyA karanA? AtmAko (pahachAnanA). sab niras (hai), aisA AtmAme.n nakkI karanA. AtmAkI or ruchi baDhAve, AtmAkI or ... kare, sachchA mArga kyA hai, to us mArga par jA sakatA hai. aur AtmAkI orakA prayatna kare, shraddhA kare, pratIt kare, usame.n lInatA kare to svAnubhUti hotI hai.

samAdhAnaH- ... a.ntar AtmAme.n.. gurudevane jo kahA hai, jo mArga darshAyA hai, vahI mArga (hai). vA.nchan karanA, shAstra-svAghyAy karanA. AtmA ananta guNo.nse bharapUre hai, use pahachAnanekA prayatna karanA. usake dravya-guN-paryAy bhinna, paravastu (ke bhinna). shAstra- svAdhyAy kare. paDhaneme.n jo AsAn lage vah paDhanA. bhAvanA, jij~nAsA rakhanI. andar vikalpa hote hai.n vah bhI apanA svabhAv nahI.n hai, usase AtmA bhinna hai. AtmAkA bhedaj~nAn kaise ho, svabhAv aur vibhAv dono.n bhinna chIj hai, usakA bhedaj~nAn ho. bhedaj~nAn kaise ho, usake liye laganI lagAnI, jij~nAsA karanI.

AtmA sarvasva hai, bAharame.n kahI.n bhI sukh nahI.n hai. sab niHsAr vastu hai, sArabhUt koI nahI.n hai. (paribhramaN karate-karate) manuShyabhav mushkilase milatA hai. aisA manuShyabhavame.n aise gurudev mile, aisA mArga milA, ghUTan-manan karatA rahe. sab svaya.nko hI karanA rahatA hai. AtmAko lakShaNase pahachAnanA ki AtmA j~nAn (svarUpI hai). j~nAnako pahachAnanekA prayatna karanA. j~nAyak mahimAva.nt hai. j~nAyakame.n sab bharA hai.

mumukShuH- sa.nkalpa-vikalpa Ate hai.n, use ChoDaneke liye kyA karanA?

samAdhAnaH- use ChoDaneke liye, yah merA svarUp nahI.n hai, mai.n to AtmA-shuddhAtmA hU.N. jaise siddha bhagavAn hai.n, vaisA mai.n hU.N. .. svaya.n to AtmAko pahachAne tab hotA hai, tabatak vichArakarake (nakkI kare ki), yah merA svarUp nahI.n hai, mai.n usase bhinna hU.N. bAra.nbAr usakA vichAr kare. aur ashubhase bachane hetu shubhabhAvame.n vichAr kare, achChe vichAr kare. achChe vichAr karaneme.n rukanA vah bhI shuddhAtmA prApta nahI.n hot tabatak shubhabhAvame.n rukanekA prayatna kare. mereme.n nahI.n hai. vikalpase bhinna andar mai.n shuddhAtmA hU.N. pariNAmako shAstrame.n roke, dev-guru-shAstra shubhabhAvame.n ruke. andar shuddhAtmA nirvikalpa vastu hai, usame.n

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koI vikalpa nahI.n hai, vikalpa binAkA AtmA-j~nAyak hai. vikalpase (shUnya) AtmA hai. usame.n Ananda bharA hai, usame.n j~nAn bharA hai. janma-maraN usase Talate hai.n, AtmAko pahachAne to Talate hai.n, bAkI nahI.n Talate.

jIvane bAharakA sab anantakAlame.n kiyA. bAharakI kriyA (karake) devame.n jAye, parantu devame.nse (nikalakar bhI) janma-maraN to vaise hI rahate hai.n, bhavakA abhAv nahI.n hotA. bhavakA abhAv to AtmAko pahachAne to hotA hai. AtmAko kaise pahachAnu.n, usake liye usakI laganI, jij~nAsA ho to hotA hai.

mumukShuH- nidrAse jAgane par bhakti Adi to yAd A jAtI hai, vah shurU ho jAtI hai, parantu AtmA sambandhit vichAr, AtmA kaisA hai, usake vichAr nahI.n Ate hai.n, to kyA karanA?

samAdhAnaH- .. lage to hotA hai. ashubhase bachaneko shubhabhAv Aye, bhakti Aye, sab Aye. andar AtmAkI laganI lage aur AtmAkI mahimA lage to hotA hai. to AtmAke vichAr Ate hai.n. AtmAkI mahimA laganI chAhiye. AtmAko pahachAne nahI.n tabatak bhaktike vichAr Aye, bhaktikI bhAvanA Aye, shubhabhAv Aye, parantu AtmA bhI mahimAva.nt hai, aise AtmAkI mahimA Aye to us orake (vichAr chale). AtmAkI mahimA AnI chAhiye. AtmA bhI ek dev, j~nAyakadev hai. jaise siddha bhagavAn hai.n, vaisA AtmA hai.

... samajhame.n nahI.n AtA. to kShapaN shreNi lagAkar Age (jAte hai.n). AtA hai na? kShapak shreNi yAnI AtmA aisI shreNI chaDhatA hai. pratham to samyagdarshan ho tab svAnubhUti hotI hai. bAharame.n vikalpa Ate the, phir bhI andarase unakA AtmA nyArA hI rahe, AtmA bhinna hI rahe, nira.ntar aisI dashA unakI ho jAtI hai. j~nAyak-j~nAyak aisI j~nAtAdhArA ho jAtI hai. andar svAnubhUti hotI hai. kabhI lIn ho jAte hai.n. isIprakAr vah gR^ihasthAshramame.n hI Age baDhate-baDhate aisI bhAvanA ho jAtI hai ki yah sab ChoDakar mai.n muni kaise ban jAU.N. jab muni ho jAte hai.n, tab andar AtmAme.n bAr-bAr lIn ho jAte hai.n. yathArtha munipanA. bAharase ChoD de, abhI ChoD dete hai.n aise nahI.n, andar yathArtha bhAvase ho jAye. gR^ihasthAshramame.n rah nahI.n sake, aisI usakI dashA ho jAtI hai. phir andar munipanA lekar AtmAme.n (lIn ho jAte hai.n). kShaN-kShaName.n AtmAme.n lIn hote hai.n.

bhagavAnake darshan kare, dev-guru-shAstrake vichAr kare, bAkI sab to unhe.n ChUT gayA hai. vah karate hai.n, phir bhI andarame.n kShaN-kShaName.n a.ntarmuhUrtame.n AtmAme.n chale jAte hai.n. kShaN- kShaName.n svAnubhUtime.n lIn hote hai.n. chalate-phirate kaI bAr kShaN-kShaName.n lIn ho jAte hai.n. soye ho to kShaN-kShaName.n a.ntarame.n chale jAte hai.n. aisI unakI dashA ho jAtI hai. AtmAkI

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svAnubhUti karate-karate aise lIn ho jAte hai.n ki AtmAkI lInatAme.n aisI unakI shreNI ho jAtI hai, jise kShapaN shreNi kahate hai.n, aise lIn ho jAte hai.n. karma apaneAp hI kShay hone lagate hai.n. isaliye kShapak shreNi (kahate hai.n). karma isaprakAr kShay hote hai.n ki phirase uday hI nahI.n AtA. karma isaprakAr kShay hote hai.n aur andarase shreNi aisI chaDhate hai.n ki vApas hI nahI.n Ate. svAnubhUtime.n aise lIn ho jAte hai.n ki vApas nahI.n Ate aur lInatAme.n hI svAnubhUtime.n lIn hokar kevalaj~nAn prApta karate hai.n. arthAt pUrNa ho jAte hai.n. vItarAgadashA. kShapak shreNIme.n aise chaDh jAte hai.n ki usake phalame.n kevalaj~nAn prApta ho jAtA hai aur AtmAme.n lIn ho jAte hai.n.

kevalaj~nAn arthAt samasta lokAlokako jAne aur AtmAko jAne, sabako jAne aisA j~nAn prApta hotA hai aur andar apanI svAnubhUtime.n lIn rahe. bAhar nahI.n Ate. unhe.n jAnanekI ichChA bhI nahI.n hotI, sahaj jAnaneme.n A jAye, aisA AtmAkA svabhAv hai. AtmAkA apUrva Ananda prApta hotA hai, AtmAkA j~nAn prApta hotA hai, pUrNa j~nAn prApta hotA hai. Atmaj~nAn to gR^ihasthAshramame.n prApta huA hai, parantu kevalaj~nAn ho jAtA hai. aisI kShapak shreNI (hai). aisI shreNI chaDhate hai.n ki phir bAhar hI nahI.n Ate. lIn ho gaye to ho gaye. aisA kevalaj~nAn prApta ho jAtA hai. AtmAke Anandame.n... AtA hai na? "sAdi ananta ananta samAdhisukhamA.n', bas! samAdhi sukhame.n ananta kAl tak (rahate hai.n).

mumukShuH- tabhI vItarAgatA pUrNa..

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, kShapak shreNI chaDhaneke bAd vItarAg (hote hai.n). "kShapaN shreNI karIne ArUDhatA...' AtA hai.

mumukShuH- dravya-guN-paryAyakA svarUp kaisA hai?

samAdhAnaH- dravya-AtmA ek vastu hai. jaise yah pudagal vastu hai, vaise AtmA ek vastu hai. usakA mukhya guN hai ki sabako jAne. sabako jAne yAnI usakA jAnanekA svabhAv hai. vah j~neyako jAnanevAlA hI hai. yah jaD vastu kuCh nahI.n jAnatI, vaise AtmA sabako jAne aisA usakA svabhAv hai. jAnanevAlI ek vastu hai. vah usakA guN hai. usame.n ananta guN hai.n. jaisA j~nAn hai, vaisA AnandaguN hai, vaise ananta guN hai.n. astitva, vastutva Adi (sAmAnya guN hai). j~nAn jAnanekA kArya kare, Ananda AnandakA kArya kare, shA.nti shA.ntikA kArya kare, aise kArya kare use paryAy kahate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- ... samyagdarshan AtmAkA guN hai aur vah AtmAme.n hai. bAharase nau tattvakI shraddhA karanI aisA AtA hai. jainadarshan-sthAnakavAsI, derAvAsI sabame.n AtA hai. nau tattvakI shraddhA kare use samyagdarshan, aisA AtA hai. shAstra paDhe yAnI j~nAn (ho gayA).

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tyAgI ho jAye, sAdhu ho jAye yAnI chAritra (huA, aisA) mAne. bhAv kadAchit ThIk rakhe to vah chAritra vAstavik chAritra nahI.n hai. AtmA svaya.n hai, us AtmAkI pratIt karanI, yathArtha shraddhA karanI ki mai.n AtmA hU.N aur sharIr nahI.n hU.N. aur yah vikalpa hote hai.n vah merA svarUp nahI.n hai. siddha bhagavAn jaisA merA svarUp hai. aisI svaya.nkI pariNati pragaT ho, aise andarase bAr-bAr aisA hI lage ki mai.n in sabase bhinna hU.N. bhinna hU.N-bhinna hU.N aisA karate (pariNati) ho, Ananda pragaT hotA hai. siddha bhagavAn to pUrNa ho gaye. ... to use samyagdarshan kahate haiai.n. vahI muktikA mArga hai.

use andarase sab ChUT jAtA hai. is sa.nsArakA svarUp... use andarase aisA (lage) ki yah kuCh bhI merA svarUp nahI.n hai. merA svarUp bhinna hai, aisA a.ntarase (ho). anAdikA abhyAs hai, rAg-dveShame.n paDA hai, ekatvabuddhi hai. bAra.nbAr usake liye prayatna kare to hotA hai. nahI.n to vah nahI.n hotA. mai.n bhinna j~nAyak hU.N, yah merA svarUp nahI.n hai, aise bhedaj~nAn kare to hotA hai. bAra.nbAr mai.n bhinna hU.N, bhinna hU.N. AtmAko pahachAnakar honA chAhiye ki yah jAnanevAlA hai vahI mai.n hU.N, yah sharIr kuCh nahI.n jAnatA, aise honA chAhiye. bahut shAstro.nko jAn liyA, aise nahI.n. AtmAko jAne to use samyagj~nAn kahate hai.n. AtmAko jAne, usake sAth bhale hI nau tattva Adi jAne, parantu mukhyarUpase AtmAko jAnanA chAhiye. nau tattvako jAne, shAstrakI shraddhA hotI hai, jinendra dev jo vItarAg hote hai.n vah dev hai.n, jo guru AtmAkI sAdhanA karate ho.n, ve guru. isaprakAr sachche dev- guru-shAstra (ko jAne). shAstra, jisame.n AtmAkI bAte.n AtI ho, vah shAstra hai. lekin andar AtmAkI shraddhA sAthame.n honI chAhiye, to vah samyak hai. mAtra bAharakA ho to vah sthUl shraddhA hai. use vyavahAr kahate hai.n.

bhale vah nahI.n ho tabatak sachche dev-guru-shAstrakI (shraddhA kare, lekin mAtra usase) mokSha nahI.n hotA, mokShA to AtmAko pahachAne to hI hotA hai. usakA nAm samyagdarshan hai. AtmAko jAne vah j~nAn, AtmAme.n lInatA kare, bAharase ChUTakar AtmAkA jo svabhAv hai, usame.n svaya.n lIn ho to vah chAritra hai. bAharase vrat dhAraN kiye, sab kiyA parantu andar svaya.n AtmAme.n lIn nahI.n ho to vah chAritra sirpha bAharakA hai. bahut log chAritra lete hai.n, bhAvame.n kuCh nahI.n hotA. aisA chAritra nahI.n.

sachchA chAritra to aisA AtA hai ki AtmAme.n bAra.nbAr lIn hotA hai aur bAhar Aye to use shubhabhAv hote hai.n. dev-guru-shAstra, nau tattva Adi, shAstra ke vichAr Ate hai.n. vah to shubhabhAv hai, lekin andar AtmAme.n bAra.nbAr lIn ho to vah chAritra hai. usake sAth bhale use tyAg ho, munidashA ho, sab hotA hai, parantu AtmAkA (Ashray) ho to vah chAritra kahalAtA hai. AtmAko samajhe binA bAharase chAritra le, vah vAstavik

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chAritra nahI.n hai, usase mokSha nahI.n hotA. mokSha to AtmAme.n lIn ho, aisA chAritra pragaT ho to hI mokSha hotA hai, nahI.n to use mokSha nahI.n hotA.

mumukShuH- jIv ekabAr mokShame.n jAneke bAd vApas nIche nahI.n AtA hai na?

samAdhAnaH- mokShame.n jAneke bAd vApas nahI.n AtA. andar svaya.n AtmA mokShasvarUp hI hai. usame.n svaya.n lInatA kare to mokShakI paryAy yahI.n pragaT hotI hai. phir to vah ek kShetrame.n jAtA hai. yahA.N jIv thA, vah siddhakShetrame.n gayA. vahA.N jAneke bAd vApas nahI.n AtA. use bhav nahI.n hote. janma-maraNakA nAsh ho jAtA hai. phir janma nahI.n hotA. lekin andar vaisI taiyArI svaya.n yahI.n kar letA hai. AtmAme.n aisA lIn ho jAtA hai ki bAhar hI nahI.n AtA.

mumukShuH- ..jitane karma bandhe hai.n, vah sab naShTa ho jAte hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- hA.N. AtmAko pahachAne to kroDo vaShAke sabhI karma kShay ho jAte hai.n.

mumukShuH- aisA kahate hai.n na ki chaurAsI lAkhake chakkar kATane paDe. vah sab..

samAdhAnaH- sabakA nAsh ho jAtA hai. ek AtmAko pahachAne, AtmAkI shraddhA kare, AtmAme.n lIn ho to sab TUT jAtA hai. use toDane nahI.n jAnA paDatA. bAharase upavAs kare, tyAg kare, sab kare to karmakA nAsh ho, aisA nahI.n hai.

mumukShuH- ... sabako aisI bhAvanA hotI hai ki varShItap kare, karmanAshake hetu, vah jUThI mAnyatA hai?

samAdhAnaH- vaise karmakA nAsh nahI.n hotA. karma to andar AtmAme.n AtmA pragaT ho to karmakA nAsh hotA hai. vah mAnyatA hai vah samajh binAkI mAnyatA hai. aj~nAnI jo karma lAkh-kroD bhavame.n nAsh kare, vah j~nAnI ek sA.nsame.n kShay karatA hai. AtmAkA j~nAn honese ek sA.ns le utanI derame.n usake karma kShay ho jAte hai.n aur lAkh-kroD bhav parya.nt aj~nAnI jo karmakA nAsh nahI.n kar sakatA, vah j~nAnI ek kShaNamAtrame.n kShay karatA hai. AtmAko samajhe binA karmakA nAsh nahI.n hotA. AtmAkA j~nAn jise hotA hai, use tyAgAdi sab hotA hai. lekin karmakA nAsh to j~nAnasahit ho to hotA hai. aj~nAnIko karmakA nAsh hotA hai aur phir naye bAndhatA hai. vAstavik rUpase to ChUTate hI nahI.n. tyAg kare, sAthame.n naye-naye sAthame.n bAndhatA hai aur mAne ki isase mujhe dharma hotA hai. sAthame.n jUThI mAnyatA hai, isaliye naye karma bAndhatA hai.

(j~nAnIko) karma kShay isaprakAr hote hai.n ki jo kShay honeke bAd nayA bandha nahI.n hotA. isaprakAr j~nAnIko kShay hotA hai. naye bandhate hI nahI.n. makkhaname.nse ghI hotA hai, phir ghIme.nse punaH makkhan nahI.n hotA. vaise jo andarase vItarAg ho gayA, svAnubhUtime.n lIn ho gayA, kevalaj~nAn ho gayA, usakA phirase makkhan nahI.n hotA.

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mumukShuH- bIjaj~nAn yAnI kyA? vah kevalako bIj j~nAnI kahe...

samAdhAnaH- kevalako bIjaj~nAnI yAnI samyagdarshanako bIjaj~nAn kahate hai.n. bIjaj~nAn pragaT hotA hai isaliye kevalaj~nAn hotA hai. AtA hai, vah kevalako bIjaj~nAnI (kahe). ... sachchA mArga mile na, guru binA mArga kaun batAye? binA guru apane hI Ap samajh kare, binA samajhake, to jUThA mArga grahaN karatA hai. sachche pratyakSha guru mile ve mArga batAye to vah satya mArga par chale. guru binA use mArga kaun batAye? guru binA hotA nahI.n.

mumukShuH- ...

samAdhAnaH- vah guru to kuCh nahI.n samajhate, mAtra veSh dhAraN kiyA hotA hai. kuCh samajhate nahI.n.

mumukShuH- sachche guruko kise kahate hai.n?

samAdhAnaH- sachche guru, jise samyagdarshan huA ho, jise AtmAkI svAnubhUti huI ho aur jo andarase yathArtha... jaise gurudev yahA.N virAjate the, unhe.n samyagdarshan svAnubhUtipUrvak (huA thA). unakA j~nAn, unakA j~nAn bhI koI alag thA. vaisA j~nAn ho, jisakI apUrva vANI ho, jo vANIparase pahachAne jAye ki ye sachche guru hai, AtmAkI hI bAt karate ho. lekin AtmAkI bAte.n bhI mAtra bolane jitanI nahI.n, a.ntarase bAte.n karate ho. AtmasparshI jinakI vANI ho, use guuru kahate hai.n. unhe.n dekhakar, unakI vANI sunakar aisA lage ki ye to AtmAkI koI gaharI bAte.n karate hai.n. ye to AtmAme.n basate ho aisA lagatA hai. aisA laganA chAhiye, to guru kahate hai.n. mAtra bAharakI bAte.n karate ho, AtmAkI koI bAt nahI.n ho, use guru kaise kahe.n? gurudevako Apane dekhA nahI.n hai. dekhA hai?

mumukShuH- dekhA hai. hamAre ghar padhAre the. samAdhAnaH- unakI vANI sunI hai. mumukShuH- ghATakopar sarvoday hospiTalame.n Aye the, tab sunA hai. samAdhAnaH- unakI vANI koI alag thI. logo.nko aisA lage ki kuCh alag hI kahate hai.n. AtmasparshI vANI ho.prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho!