Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (itrans transliteration). Track: 97.

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samAdhAnaH- is dhanaterasame.n sab bAharakA karate hai.n, vAstavame.n to a.ntarame.n dhanateras hai. AtmAkA svarUp dhan hai, use pragaT karanA vah vAstavame.n dhanateras hai. mahAvIr bhagavAn mokSha padhAre, isaliye yah dhanateras Adi divas Ate hai.n. a.ntarame.n svarUpadhanako pragaT karanA vah dhanateras hai. a.ntar svarUpame.n, a.ntarame.n AtmAme.n sab khajAnA bharA hai. AtmAko pahachAnakar, bhedaj~nAn karake us par dR^iShTi karake, usakI mahimA lAkar andar svarUpakA dhan pragaT karanA, yah dhanateras hai.

vah nahI.n ho tabatak shubhabhAvame.n dev-guru-shAstra, bhagavAnane jo prApta kiyA, tIrtha.nkar bhagavAn mahAvIr bhagavAnane jo pragaT kiyA, use svaya.n smaraName.n lAkar us prakArakI shubhabhAvanA, bhakti mahimA bAharase bhagavAnakI kare. a.ntarame.n AtmAkA svarUp-dhan kaise pragaT ho? yah karanA hai. jinendra dev, guru, shAstrakI mahimA lAve. bhagavAnane sab pragaT kiyA, guru sAdhanA karate hai.n, shAstrame.n sab varNan AtA hai. shubhabhAvame.n vah aur a.ntarame.n shuddhAtmAme.n dhan bharA hai, use pahachAne. usakI shraddhA, usakA j~nAn, usame.n lInatA kare.

mumukShuH- ...

samAdhAnaH- bhagavAnakA nirvAN kalyANakakA mahotsav karate hai.n, usame.n Age-pICheke din ma.ngal din hai.n. usame.n dhanateras kahate hai.n. laukikame.n dhanaterasa. gautamasvAmIko kevalaj~nAn pragaT huA, bhagavAn mokSha (padhAre). isaliye Age-pICheke dino.nko ma.ngalarUp kahate hai.n. shAstrame.n to yah ek nirvAN kalyANakakA din AtA hai. usake Age-pIChe ke dino.nko ma.ngalarUp kahate hai.n.

mumukShuH- savikalpAtmakame.n pahale ruchime.n svaya.nkA j~nAyak AtmA AnA chAhiye aur use parakI ruchi ChUT jAnI chAhiye. usake bAd use dR^iShTikA jor Ave. usakA artha yah huA ki jabatak vikalpAtmakame.n use merA AtmA hI mujhe sukharUp hai, dUsarA kuCh bhI yAnI ... vikAr bhI sukharUp nahI.n hai. aisA jabatak abhiprAyame.n nirNay na ho, tabatak dR^iShTikA jor arthAt dravya sanmukh hokar yah j~nAyak hai vahI mai.n hU.N, aisA sachchA jor use A nahI.n sakatA. aisA ApakA kahanA thA?

samAdhAnaH- jor nahI.n AtA. svaya.nme.n sukh hai aisA nirNay na ho, apanI or


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ruchi na Ave to apanI or jor nahI.n AtA. dravya par dR^iShTikA shraddhAkA jor nahI.n AtA. kyo.nki mereme.n hI sukh hai, vahI prayojanabhUt hai, vahI jarUratakA hai, utanI ruchi a.ntarame.nse nahI.n ho to shraddhAkA jor nahI.n AtA.

mumukShuH- is prakArase vichAr karake ek bAr nahI.n parantu .. bhAvame.n baiThatA hai ki sachamuchame.n sukh mujhame.n hai aur isame.n sukh nahI.n hai. is prakAr j~nAyak hai vahI mai.n hU.N, yAnI ki Ashray karanekA jo... yah j~nAyak hI mai.n hU.N aur yah sab mujhase par hai. is prakAr kahaneke bAd kyA karanA bAkI rah jAtA hai ki jisame.n abhI jis prakArakA pariNAm-phal AnA chAhiye, vah nahI.n AtA hai?

samAdhAnaH- nakkI karake j~nAyakakA Ashray nahI.n letA hai. j~nAyakakA jo Ashray lenA chAhiye vah Ashray letA nahI.n. buddhise vichAr kiyA, vichAr-vichArame.n rah gayA aur shraddhA kI. parantu j~nAyakakA jo Ashray lenA chAhiye vah Ashray letA nahI.n. mai.n yah j~nAyak hI hU.N.

kShaN-kShaName.n use jo laganA chAhiye, kShaN-kShaName.n bhAsanA chAhiye ki mai.n to j~nAyak hI hU.N. j~nAyakakA Ashray letA nahI.n hai isaliye Age nahI.n jAtA. j~nAyakakA Ashray nahI.n letA hai. Ashray-dR^iShTi par or hai. nakkI to kiyA lekin Ashray j~nAyakakA lenA chAhiye, j~nAyakakA Ashray nahI.n letA hai.

mumukShuH- j~nAyakakA Ashray yAnI Apako kyA kahanA hai?

samAdhAnaH- yah j~nAyak hai, yah j~nAyak hai vahI mai.n hU.N, aisA kShaN-kShaName.n a.ntarame.n j~nAyak hI usakI dR^iShTime.n bhAsit honA chAhiye. kShaN-kShaName.n j~nAyak dR^iShTime.n bhAsit nahI.n hotA hai. par bhAsatA, vibhAv bhAsatA hai, usakA vedan hotA hai. lekin j~nAyakake a.ntarame.n jAya. mai.n to j~nAyak hI hU.N, aisA use a.ntarame.n lagatA nahI.n. usake Ashrayame.n ek j~nAyak nahI.n AtA hai. koI bhI kArya karate hue, mai.n to bhinna hI hU.N, vah jo use kShaN- kShaName.n laganA chAhiye, vah lagatA nahI.n hai. usakI laganI us prakArakI (lagI nahI.n hai). j~nAyakakA Ashray nahI.n letA hai. vichAr kiyA, nirNay kiyA kiyah j~nAnasvabhAv hI mai.n hU.N, lekin j~nAnarUp rahanekA svaya.n prayatna nahI.n karatA hai. j~nAn so mai.n, aisA nakkI kiyA, parantu vah j~nAtArUp kahA.N rahatA hai? ekatvabuddhi hotI hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! jab j~nAname.n nakkI hotA hai, jis prakArase bhinnatA hai, paradravyakI, vibhAvakI aur ek samayakI paryAy aur j~nAyakabhAv, usakI jaisI bhinna hai vaisA vichAr kiyA, aur yah vichAr karane par aisA huA ki, sachamuch merA paramArtha svarUp to j~nAyak hI hai. achChA, dR^iShTime.n arthAt ruchi apekShAse bhI vichAr kiyA ki j~nAname.n to pahalU honese gauN-mukhya hote hai.n. lekin dR^iShTime.n to vichAr kiyA ki ek j~nAyakabhAvake


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sivA kahI.n bhI thoDA bhI sukh nahI.n hai. aur aise ... karatA nahI.n.

samAdhAnaH- nakkI kiyA ki usame.n sukh nahI.n hai, vah nakkI vichArame.n rahA, nakkI kiyA ki sukh nahI.n hai. parantu vah sukh nahI.n hai to usakA kArya, j~nAyakako grahaN karake j~nAyakakA Ashray jo use a.ntarame.n AnA chAhiye, j~nAyakakA Ashray nahI.n huA hai. j~nAnasvabhAv hU.N, aisA nirNay kiyA, lekin j~nAnasvabhAvarUp honekA prayatna nahI.n karatA hai.

mumukShuH- Apase yah jAnanA hai ki j~nAyak honekA prayatna athavA j~nAyak hotA nahI.n hai, to j~nAyak kaise honA?

samAdhAnaH- usakA Ashray nahI.n letA hai. use kShaN-kShaName.n jo vichAr, vikalpa Ave us vikalpamay hI svaya.n ho jAtA hai, us vakta bhinna kahA.N rahatA hai? jo- jo vikalpa Ave, vichAr Ave, us vikalpamay ekamek ho jAtA hai. nakkI kiyA ki mai.n to yah jAnanevAlA j~nAnasvabhAv hU.N. koI bhI vikalpa, vichAr Ave usame.n ekamek hotA hai. jo-jo vichAr Ate hai.n us vakta vichAr karake dekhe to ekamek ho jAtA hai, thoDA bhI andar bhinna nahI.n rahatA hai. bhinna hU.N, aisA nakkI kiyA to usakA ekatvabuddhikA ras kam huA, sab huA, mandatA huyI, lekin vah bhinna nahI.n rahatA hai. bhinna rahanekA bhedaj~nAnakA prayatna nahI.n karatA hai. nakkI kiyA ki mai.n bhinna hU.N. nakkI to kiyA, bhinna hU.N. lekin bhinna rahanekA prayatna nahI.n karatA hai.

mumukShuH- dUsarA prayatna to mAtAjI! ekAgratA ho aur vikalpa TUTe to nirvikalpa anubhav ho, to-to aisA lage ki j~nAnarUp rahA. jabatak rAg TUTe nahI.n tabatak to shAstra kahatA hai aur Ap kahoge ki ekatAbuddhi hai aur rAgako tU terA mAnatA hai. abhyAs chAhe jitanA karate ho, bhinna rahanekA prayatna karate ho, to Apako bIchame.n ek bAt karatA hU.N ki, aisA sAdhan hai ki...

samAdhAnaH- bhinna hokar vikalpa TUTe vah nirvikalpa hotA hai, vah to hotA hai, lekin usake pahale usakA bhedaj~nAnakA abhyAs nahI.n hai. bhedaj~nAnakA abhyAsa. vah vichAr kare, sharIr jab kAm karatA ho, kAm karatA ho, bolatA ho, khAtA ho, pItA ho us vakta use khyAl rahatA hai ki mai.n bhinna hU.N? pratikShaN khyAl rahatA hai? bhedaj~nAnakA abhyAs kahA.N karatA hai? yah sharIr bhinna, yah bhinna, vikalpa bhinna, rAg bhinna, usase mai.n bhinna hU.N, aisA use bAr-bAr usakI pariNatime.n AtA hai? usakA abhyAs to pahale hotA hai na? ekadam nirvikalpa ho vah kvachit kisIko hotA hai. ekadam bhedaj~nAn hotA hai aur nirvikalpa ho jAtA hai. pahale to usakA abhyAs hotA hai.

mumukShuH- Apako to aisA kahanA hai ki itanA nakkI karaneke bAd bAra.nbAr bhed abhyAs honA chAhiye?


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samAdhAnaH- bhedakA abhyAs honA chAhiye. pahale use sahaj nahI.n hotA hai. sahaj bhale nahI.n ho, lekin usake vichArame.n us prakArase AtA hai. sahaj bhedaj~nAnakI dhArA ho nirvikalpa honeke bAd, vah alag bAt hai, use to sahaj hai. pratyek kAryame.n sahaj hI hai. usake abhyAsame.n chaubIs ghaNTeme.n jo-jo kArya aur jo-jo vichAr chalate ho.n, usake andar svaya.nko kitanI bAr bhinnatA bhAsyamAn hotI hai?

mumukShuH- bhAsyamAname.n to mAtAjI, aisA hai ki vikalpapUrvak to vichArame.n lete hai.n ki mai.n j~nAyak hU.N, yah mujhase bhinna hai. rAg ho to bhI mujhase bhinna hai. paradravyakI koI kriyA hotI ho to vah bhI mai.n karatA nahI.n hU.N.

samAdhAnaH- lekin jab vah kisI kAryame.n tanmay huA ho us vakta use bhinnatA rahatI hai yA nahI.n?

mumukShuH- vah nahI.n rahatA.

samAdhAnaH- jis samay tanmay hokar koI vichAro.nme.n ulajhA ho, us vakta use bhinnatA rahatI hai yA nahI.n? to bhedaj~nAnake abhyAsame.n usakI kShati hai.

mumukShuH- utanA bhed abhyAs honA chAhiye.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, bhedaj~nAnakA abhyAs honA chAhiye. bAr-bAr nakkI kare ki mai.n bhinna hI hU.N. vichAro.nse nakkI karatA rahe, lekin usake kAyAme.n, usakI pariNatime.n vah kitanI bAr bhinna rah sakatA hai?

mumukShuH- vikalpapUrvak bhI nira.ntar bhinna nahI.n rahatA hai, bAt sachchI hai.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, bhinna kahA.N rah sakatA hai? abhI to yah bhed abhyAsakI bAt hai. sahaj to bAdame.n hotA hai. bAdame.n kyA karanA hai? parantu yah bhedaj~nAnakA abhyAs karanA hai. bhinna nahI.n rah sakatA hai. sAdhanAkI paryAy to aise hI pragaT hotI hai ki mai.n chaitanya hU.N, aisI dR^iShTikA jor aur Ashray kab ho? ki bhed-bhinna paDanekA prayatna abhyAs ho to usakA Ashray balavAnarUpase hotA hai, nahI.n to balavAnarUpase vikalpakA Ashray rah jAtA hai. vikalpase nakkI karatA hai. bhale jorase nakkI kare ki mai.n bhinna hI hU.N. mai.n bhinna hI hU.N, bhinna hI hU.N yah yathArtha hai. to use itanA andar lage ki mai.n bhinna hI hU.N. bhinnarUp rahatA to nahI.n hai. utanI andar ruchikI tIvratA honI chAhiye ki mujhe nishchit hai ki mai.n bhinna hU.N. lekin bhinna rah nahI.n sakatA hai. utanA prayAs nahI.n hai.

nirNay kiyA ki is gA.Nvamee.n jAnese nukasAn hai. aisA nakkI kiyA. isame.n sukhakA kAraN nahI.n hai, is or jAnese hI sukh hai. aisA nakkI kiyA to phir jo sukhakA rAstA hai, sukhakA dhAm hai vahA.N jAnekA prayatna-prayAs karatA nahI.n hai, us or kadam


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baDhAtA nahI.n. vichAr karake khaDe-khaDe nakkI karatA hai lekin us orakA prayAs kitanA hotA hai? nukasAn hai, aisA nakkI kiyA to kyo.n jAtA hai? utanI usakI ruchikI kShati hai. us or use duHkh lage to bhI, us or duHkhakA gA.Nv-nagar hai to bhI us or jAtA hai. aur is or kitanI bAr prayAs karatA hai?

shraddhAkI balavattaratA ho to use kAryAnvit karanA chAhiye. vichArase bhale shraddhA karatA ho. pahale aise vichArapUrvak shraddhA hue binA rahatI nahI.n. lekin usame.n aisA hai ki dhIre-dhIre ho, utAvalIse ho yA dhIre-dhIre ho parantu mArga grahaN kiyA hai, jis mArgako vichAr karake grahaN kiyA use to barAbar TikAkar us or jAnekA prayatna karanA. to use Age jAnekA avakAsh hai. terI shraddhA tU barAbar rakhanA. shAstrame.n AtA hai, ho sake to dhyAnamay pratikramaN karanA, nahI.n to shraddhA kartavya hai. shraddhA yAnI usame.n sab le lenA. vah to samyagdarshanapUrvak hai, phir bhI shraddhA to barAbar rakhanA. prayatna terA kam ho, dhIre ho, tvarAse ho, koI bAr thak jA to bhI terI vikalpapUrvakakI shraddhAko barAbar dR^iDh rakhanA. to tujhe Age baDhanekA avakAsh hai.

yadi tU thak jA aur Age nahI.n baDh sake to thakakar tU dUsare rAste par mat jAnA. use to barAbar grahaN karake rakhanA. gurudevane jo mArga batAyA aur tune vichArase a.ntarase nakkI kiyA, svabhAvakA milAn karake nakkI kiyA to use to tU barAbar grahaN karake rakhanA. use to tU sa.NbhAlakar hI rakhanA. usase bhI Age baDhe vah alag bAt hai, lekin jahA.N khaDA hai utanA to sa.NbhAlakar rakhanA. yah dhan sa.NbhAlanekA kahate hai.n na? tere gahane, dhan Adi (sa.NbhAlakar rakhanA).

vaise pa.nchamakAlame.n gurudev mile aur yah jo mArga batAyA, vah pa.nchamakAlame.n milanA mushkil thA. vah to gurudevane batAyA aur tUne vichArase nakkI kiyA to use barAbar sa.NbhAlakar rakhanA. utanI dR^iDhatA tU barAbar rakhanA. idhar-Udhar mArga par kahI.n mat jAnA.

mumukShuH- j~nAyakako svaya.nko j~nAyakapane ... nahI.n aur savikalpa dashAme.n bhI use us prakArakA prayatna karanA chAhiye ki mAno rAg huA to rAgase bhinna jAnanevAlA hai, vah jAnanevAlA bhinna rahatA hai, aisA use abhyAs karanA chAhiye. to Apake kahaneke bAd is prakAr vichArame.n liyA, lekin abhI bhI bhAvame.n barAbar baiThatA nahI.n. Ap do-chAr dR^iShTAnta dekar is bAtako adhik spaShTa kIjiye.

samAdhAnaH- amuk vichArase, amuk vichArase eva.n yuktise kahaneme.n Aye. bAkI karanA to svaya.nko hI paDatA hai. kaise svaya.n bhinna paDatA hai, vah to jis prakArakI svaya.nkI bhUmikA ho aur jis prakArakA svaya.nkA prayatna ho, us prakArase svaya.n hI bhinna paDatA hai. yah to ek vichAr eva.n yuktise kahaneme.n AtA hai ki, aisA vichAr


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kare. bAkI use sahaj honA chAhiye. vichAr kyA karanA aur kaise karanA, vah svaya.n kahA.N aTakatA hai, aur svaya.n kyA karatA hai, vah svaya.nko hI grahaN karanA paDatA hai.

vichAr kare ki yah sharIr to jaD hai, kuCh jAnatA nahI.n. vah to jaD hai, usame.n jo pudagalake....

mumukShuH- bahut sundar kahI. kudaratI baDA din hai aur baDI bAt A gayI.

samAdhAnaH- ... abhyAs karanA hai. utanA svaya.n kar sakatA hai. dravya par dR^iShTi karake bhedaj~nAnakA abhyAs (kare), AtmAkA Ashray lenA hai. usakA AtmAkA Ashray grahaN kare to usame.n vikalpa ChUTanekA prasa.ng AtA hai. bAkI ekadam kisIko a.ntarmuhUrtame.n hotA hai vah alag bAt hai.

mumukShuH- ... samAdhAnaH- hA.N, yah shraddhA to barAbar rakhanA.

prashamamUrti bhagavatI mAtano jay ho! mAtAjInI amR^it vANIno jay ho!
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