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mumukShuH- mAtAjI! hame.n to aisA lagatA hai ki j~nAn, shraddhA aur chAritra un tIno.nkA svarUp barAbar pakaDame.n nahI.n AtA, us hisAbase AtmA j~nAyakakI dR^iShTi karaneme.n vikShep AtA hai. j~nAn aisA kahatA hai ki, dravya, guN eva.n paryAy tIno.n tU hai. dR^iShTi aisA kahatI hai, j~nAyakamAtra tU hai.

samAdhAnaH- dR^iShTi use dUr karatI hai, parantu vah apekShAse hai. dR^iShTi dUr kare aur j~nAn rahe. ek vastuko anek pahalUse dekhI jAtI hai. vastu chaitanya hai (usame.n) anekAnta dharma hai.n, anekAntamay mUrti anek svarUp (hai). ananta dhamAse shobhAyamAn aisI chaitanyamUrti hai. use ek apekShAse ek (dharma) dvArA nahI.n dekhI jAtI, use chAro.n orase dekhaneme.n AtA hai.

vastu, vastuke guN, vastukI paryAy, chAro.n orase vastuko dekhI jAtI hai. mUl Ashray kisakA lenA? dR^iShTi Ashray mUl vastukA letI hai. usame.n guNabhed, paryAyabhed kiye binA ek astitvako grahaN karatI hai. ek manuShya ho to ek manuShyane Ashray liyA. bhagavAn hai, bhagavAnakA Ashray liyA ki bhagavAn mere hR^idayame.n hai.n, mai.n bhagavAnako dekhatA hU.N. Ashray liyA, phir bhagavAnakA vichAr nahI.n karatA hai. yah bhagavAn hI hai. nakkI kiyA ki yah bhagavAn hai.n. sarva guN sa.npanna bhagavAna. us vakta use vikalpa nahI.n AtA ki bhagavAnakA Ashray lU.N. usame.n koI guNabhed, paryAyabhed (dikhAyI nahI.n dete). Ashray lenevAle ko us par dR^iShTi yA vikalpa nahI.n hotA. parantu bhagavAname.n guN kyA hai? un guNo.nkA vichArak karaneme.n j~nAn AtA hai, chAro.n pahalUse. bhagavAname.n kaun-se guN bhare hai.n? bhagavAnakI avasthA kyA? unakA svarUp kyA hai? sab j~nAn (karatA hai).

Ashray leneme.n, Ashrayame.n ek hI AtA hai. dR^iShTime.n ek Ashray liyA, usame.n ek vastu A jAtI hai. usake bhed hai.n, vah mUl vastubhed nahI.n hai. usakA lakShaNabhed aur a.nsh-a.nshIkA bhed hai. usake Ashrayame.n to ek hI AtA hai. vastu anekAnta svarUpase bharI hai. usake j~nAname.n sab AnA chAhiye aur Ashrayame.n ek AtA hai. vahI vastukA svarUp hai. Ashrayame.n bhinna-bhinna (Ashray nahI.n hotA). dravyakA Ashray, guNakA Ashray, aise Ashray bhinna-bhinna nahI.n hote. Ashray ek hI hotA hai. lekin us Ashrayame.n guNo.nse

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bharitavastha vastu andar A jAtI hai. lekin usakI bhed par dR^iShTi nahI.n hai, use gauN ho jAtA hai. isaliye Ashray liyA.

shraddhAkA doSh yA chAritrakA doSh, vah to jabatak bhedaj~nAn nahI.n huA hai, bhedaj~nAn hokar j~nAyakakI dhArA pragaT huyI, to shraddhAkA doSh, chAritrakA doSh Adi spaShTarUpase bhinna paDatA hai. pahale to use ekatvabuddhi hai aur shraddhA, AcharaN Adi sab mishra hai. isaliye use apanI pariNatime.n hI mishra hai, isaliye use bhinna karanA mushkil paDatA hai. pariNatime.n mishra hai, isaliye yah shraddhAkA yA yah chAritrakA (doSh aise bhinna nahI.n kar sakatA hai). pariNatime.n hI mishra ho rahA hai. andar bhedaj~nAn huA nahI.n hai. shraddhA jisakI bhinna ho gayI, j~nAyakakI pariNati (huyI) use (yah) shraddhA (hai), yah chAritra- yah sthiratA hai (aisA bhinna kar sakatA hai). j~nAyakakI shraddhAme.n pharka paDe to vah shraddhAkA doSh hotA hai. mai.n j~nAyak hI hU.N, yah vibhAv merA svabhAv nahI.n hai. guNabhed hai vah lakShaNabhedase hai. usame.n yadi bhUl paDe to usakI shraddhAme.n, Ashrayame.n bhUl paDe. to vah shraddhAkA doSh hai.

isaliye jab vah bhinna huA, to use jo anantAnubandhIkA ras thA vah TUT jAtA hai. j~nAyak bhinna paDe. abhI abhinna hai, isaliye bhinna nahI.n paDA hai. isaliye use sab mishrarUpase chal rahA hai. use sab ras manda paDe hai.n. yathArtha dev-guru-shAstrako grahaN kiye, tattvakA vichAr karatA hai, tattvako grahaN karatA hai, aisA sab karatA hai. isaliye vah tattvakI or jhukA hai. isaliye use sab (ras) manda paD gaye hai.n. anantAnubandhI, darshanamoh Adi. lekin vah usase bhinna nahI.n paDA hai, isaliye use sab mishrarUpase hI chal rahA hai. isaliye mishra ho rahA hai. bhinna paDe use, yah astitvakA aur yah shraddhAkA...

lekin usame.n sthUlarUpase vah aisA grahaN kar sakatA hai ki jo tattva sambandhit bAt ho, usame.n jo bhUl paDe, tIvratA A jAye, vah sab darshanamohame.n jAtA hai. aur dUsarA asthiratAme.n jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- sthUlarUpase bhed kar sakatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- tattva sambandhi jo ho, sachche dev-guru-shAstra sambandhit, tattttva sambandhit, us tattvame.n bhUl paDe to vah shraddhAke doShame.n jAtA hai.

mumukShuH- shubharAgase dharma ho, ityAdi.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vah sab shraddhAke doShame.n jAtA hai. shubharAgase dharma hotA hai, shubh ho to achChA hai, Adi. shubh AtA hai, lekin usase lAbh (nahI.n mAnatA). vah apanA nij svarUp nahI.n hai. tattvame.n bhUl paDe to vah shraddhAke doShame.n jAtI hai. bAkI jo AcharaName.n ho, vah sab kaShAyake bhAv hai.n. bhUmikAme.n amuk prakArake kaShAy manda (hote

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hai.n), vah sab AtmArthIko to honA chAhiye. AtmAkA jise prayojan hai, use bhUmikA anusAr kaShAyo.nkA ras andarase kam ho jAtA hai. us sambandhit to use hotA hai. shraddhA aur chAritrakA bhed paDe, isaliye use usame.n utanA pharka nahI.n paDatA ki dUsare kaShAy bahut ho jAya. yah to tattvakA hai. bAkI dUsare sA.nsArik vyavahArik kaShAy bahut baDh jAy, aisA nahI.n hotA. AtmArthIko AtmAkA prayojan ho to use bhUmikA bhI amuk prakArakI honI chAhiye.

mumukShuH- mukhyarUpase tattvakA doSh shraddhAke doShame.n lenA chAhiye. aur laukikame.n bhI aise tIvra kaShAy nahI.n hote ki jo sAmAnya lokako bhI nahI.n hote.

samAdhAnaH- nahI.n hote. usakI bhUmikA, mumukShukI bhUmikA anusAr honA chAhiye.

mumukShuH- aur khAs to jab bhinna paDe tab hI yathArtharUpase...

samAdhAnaH- yathArtha bhed tab hI paDatA hai. pariNati bhinna paDe aur asthiratA bhinna rah jAya. use bhedaj~nAn ho. tab hI use shraddhA aur chAritrakA doSh vAstavikarUpase usakI pariNatime.n hote hai.n. tabatak use ras manda hue hote hai.n. sab pahalUse dekhA jAtA hai. nakkI karake Ashray ekakA liyA jAtA hai. pratyek vastu vyavahArame.n bhI nakkI kare, koI vyaktikA vah Ashray letA hai, mA.N-bApakA yA dUsarekA, to vyaktigat taur par Ashray le usame.n use bhed nahI.n hai, usame.n vichAr nahI.n hai. use vikalpa nahI.n hai. usame.n kyA guN hai, yah sab vichArame.n AtA hai. Ashray leneme.n Ashray ek vastukA (letA hai). chaitanyakA Ashray leneme.n ek vastu akhaNDa aise AtA hai. phir usame.n guNabhed par yA paryAyabhed par kahI.n dR^iShTi (nahI.n hotI). vibhAv to merA svabhAv hI nahI.n hai. j~nAyak ek vastu hai. vastume.n kyA hai? aisA kuCh nahI.n. astitvakA Ashray-yah vastu mai.n hU.N, basa. j~nAyak vastu mai.n hU.N. us vastukA Ashray liyA.

mumukShuH- Ashrayame.n hU.N-panAkA anubhav karanA hai, hU.N-pane anubhav karanA. j~nAyak vahI mai.n, aise hU.N-pane anubhav karanA hai, vahA.N j~nAn aisA (kahatA hai), yah guNabhed, yah paryAyabhed tereme.n hai.n, tU hI hai, kuCh anya nahI.n hai. arthAt ekame.n hU.N-panA karanA, dUsareme.nse ChoDanA. vahA.N shraddhA aur j~nAnakA viShay, thoDA pharka karatA hai. ulajhan vahA.N hotI hai ki shraddhAme.n yah j~nAyak hI hU.N, aisA mai.n anubhav karatA hU.N aur paryAy bhI... anya kuCh bhI mai.n nahI.n, yAnI paryAyamAtra bhI mai.n nahI.n hU.N. nahI.n hU.N, isaliye j~nAname.n jaisA hai vaisA, parase bhinnatA aur atadabhAvarUp bhinnatA, vastu svarUpako jaisA hai vaisA khyAlame.n rakhakar, sarvathA itanA dR^iShTikA jor nahI.n detA hai ki yah j~nAyak hI mai.n hU.N, aur anya kuCh bhI mai.n nahI.n hU.N.

samAdhAnaH- ... phir usame.n use vikalpa nahI.n hai ki yah paryAy mai.n nahI.n hU.N

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yA yah guNabhed mai.n nahI.n hU.N. aisA vikalpa use nahI.n hai. usane to ek astitvako grahaN kiyA hai. dR^iShTike andar j~nAn sAthame.n hI juDA hai. kitanA bhed, vibhAv aur svabhAv bhed hai, paryAyakA kitanA bhed hai, guNakA kitanA bhed hai, in sabake khyAlapUrvak dR^iShTikA jor hai. dR^iShTikA jor aisA nahI.n hai ki paryAy ek dUsarI vastu hai. dR^iShTikA jor... jo shraddhA kI, shraddhAme.n aisA jor hai ki yah paryAy bAhar laTak rahI hai. aisA nahI.n hai.

use dR^iShTike jorake sAth paryAyakA vedan hotA hai. vedan Adi sabakA j~nAname.n khyAl hai, parantu dR^iShTikA jor aisA nahI.n thA ki j~nAnase virUddha hai. usake sAth, yah kitanA bhinna hai aur vah kitanA bhinna hai, sabake khyAlapUrvak dR^iShTikA Ashray hai. dR^iShTikA Ashray aise nahI.n hai ki j~nAn kuCh dUsarA kAm karatA hai aur dR^iShTi koI dUsarA karatI hai, aisA nahI.n hai.

(dR^iShTi) aisA kahatI hai ki mereme.n tU kuCh hai hI nahI aur j~nAn kahatA hai, mereme.n hai. aisA nahI.n hai. kis prakArase hai aur kis prakArase nahI.n hai, vah dR^iShTi aur j~nAn dono.n maitripUrvak kAm karate hai.n.

mumukShuH- dono.n maitripUrvak kAm karate hai.n.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, maitripUrvak karate hai.n.

mumukShuH- arthAt j~nAn jis prakArase vastukA svarUp batAtA hai, use rakhakar dR^iShTi..

samAdhAnaH- use rakhakar dR^iShTikA jor usI prakArase hotA hai. dR^iShTime.n aisA nahI.n AtA hai ki yah paryAyakA vedan hai, yah paryAy A gayI, paryAy A gayI. aisA nahI.n hai dR^iShTime.n. dR^iShTine to Ashray hI grahaN kiyA hai. dR^iShTikame.n vikalpa nahI.n hai. dR^iShTime.n kisI bhI prakArakA bhed nahI.n hai. dR^iShTine astitva grahaN kiyA hai. phir usame.n bAkI sab AtA hai, usase bhAgatI hai, aisA usakA kArya nahI.n hai. use khyAl hai ki yah guNabhed, paryAyabhedakA viShay usame.n gauN ho gayA hai. use dekhane vah rukatI nahI.n. use to shraddhA karanI vahI usakA viShay hai. dR^iShTikA viShay shraddhAkA jor (hai). mai.n kaun hU.N, usakI shraddhAkA jor hai. j~nAn hai jo sab svarUp jAnatA hai, usase koI alag hI usakA Ashray hai aisA nahI.n hai. dono.n maitripUrvak kArya karate hai.n. dR^iShTikA sab j~nAn toD de aur j~nAnakA sab dR^iShTi toD de (aisA nahI.n hotA). dono.n maitripUrvak kArya karate hai.n. dR^iShTime.n koI vikalpa nahI.n hai. ek Ashray grahaN karanA aur shraddhAkA bal hai.

.. chaitanyame.nse utpanna huyI bhAvanA niShphal nahI.n jAtI hai, aisA bhagavAnane kahA hai. aur vastukA svarUp hI aisA hai. bhagavAnane kahA hai. jo vastu hai, use andarase jo pariNati-bhAvanA utpanna ho, usakA kArya Aye binA rahatA hI nahI.n. yadi a.ntarame.n vah

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kArya na Aye to vastu Tik nahI.n sakatI. a.ntarame.nse jo bhAvanA utpanna huyI ho, usakI pariNati jo ho, use hue binA rahatI hI nahI.n. a.ntarakI bhAvanA honI chAhiye. a.ntarakI bhAvanA. chaitanyame.nse utpanna huyI bhAvanA ho.

mumukShuH- ananta tIrtha.nkaro.nne kahI huyI bAt hai. ek tIrtha.nkar parase sab tIrtha.nkaro.nne aisA kahA hai?

samAdhAnaH- jo mArga ek tIrtha.nkar bhagavAn kahe, vah sab bhagavAn kahate hai.n. mArga to ek hI hai. tIno.n kAlame.n ek hI mArga hai. muktikA mArga ek hI hai. ek bhagavAn yA sab bhagavAn, ek hI bAt kahate hai.n. usame.n alag nahI.n hotA. muktikA mArga, svAnubhUtikA muktikA mArga ek hI hotA hai. usame.n dUsarA nahI.n hotA. yah to bhAvanAkI bAt hai na. yadi a.ntarase utpanna huyI bhAvanA ho (aur pariNati na ho) to chaitanya Tik hI nahI.n sakatA. yadi usakI bhAvanA (anusAr) pariNati na ho, jaisI use a.ntarase bhAvanA huyI ho, us rUp yadi pariNati pariName nahI.n to vah chaitanya Tik hI nahI.n sakatA.

a.ntarakI bhAvanA honI chAhiye. a.ntarakI usakI shraddhAkI pariNati, j~nAnakI pariNati, chAritrakI pariNati, use yadi a.ntarase bhAvanA ho to us rUp usakA pariNaman hue binA rahe nahI.n. usakA mArga vah andarase dravya hI DhU.NDh letA hai, dravya hI usakA kArya kar letA hai. us prakArase dravya kArya na kare to dravyakA nAsh ho jAya. ekakA nAsh ho to sabakA nAsh ho jAya. vastukA svarUp aisA hotA hI nahI.n. aisI usakI shraddhAkI pariNati, j~nAnakI, chAritrakI pariNati a.ntara.ngase pariNaman hue binA rahe hI nahI.n. a.ntarame.nse dravya hI svaya.n mArga karake svaya.n svaya.nkA Ashray grahaN karake svaya.n hI pahu.Nch jAtA hai. (chaitanyakI) or jo pariNati jAy, usakI shuddharUp pariNati hotI hai. usakI bhAvanA (a.ntarakI ho to). bAharakI bAt alag hai, yah to a.ntarakI bAt hai. a.ntara.ng sachchI bhAvanAkI bAt hai.

pratyek dravya nij svarUparUp pariNamatA hai aur usakI pariNatikI gati, jo apanI bhAvanA (ho) arthAt jis or usakA jhukAv ho, us rUp dravya usakI pariNati pragaT kiye binA rahatA hI nahI.n. vastukA svabhAv aisA hai. nahI.n to vah dravya hI nahI.n Tike, dravya hI na rahe.

mumukShuH- kudarat bandhI huyI hai.

samAdhAnaH- kudarat usake sAth bandhI huyI hai. kudarat yAnI vastukA svarUpa. kisIne bhAvanAkA prashna ho, usame.nse AyA hai. sab bhAvanA-bhAvanA karate hai.n. andar sachchI bhAvanA ho to pragaT hue binA rahe hI nahI.n. a.ntarame.nse svaya.n dravya hI mArga kar letA hai. bhagavAnane

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kahI huyI bAt hai arthAt vastukA svarUp hI aisA hai. sab bahut kahate ho na, usame.n aisA A gayA hai.

mumukShuH- gurudevako to bahut hI anumodanA huyI thI. chaudah brahmANDakA nAsh ho jAya.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, brahmANDakA nAsh ho jAy, vastukA nAsh ho jAy, yadi us rUp kArya na Ave to. jo dravya ho, vaisI usakI bhAvanA ho to vaisI pariNati hue binA rahatI nahI.n.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! bhAvanA to sabakI samyagdarshan prApta karanekI dikhatI ho to usakA...?

samAdhAnaH- vah bhAvanA nahI.n, yah bhAvanA alag hai. aisI bhAvanA. vah bhAvanA aisI hotI hai ki andarase mArga ho hI jAya. apanA dravya andarase mArga kiye binA rahe nahI.n. vah bhAvanA UparakI nahI.n, a.ntarakI bhAvanA ho usame.n kArya Aye binA rahatA hI nahI.n. a.ntarakA sachchA kAraN ho to kArya Aye binA rahe hI nahI.n. aisA vastukA siddhAnta hai. kAraN hI yathArtha nahI.n hai to kArya kahA.Nse ho? ek hI mArga hai, isaliye ananta tIrtha.nkaro.nkI bAt usame.n A gayI hai.

mumukShuH- vartamAname.n bIs tIrtha.nkar vahI kar rahe hai.n aur bhaviShyame.n tIrtha.nkar ho.nge ve yahI bAt kare.nge.

samAdhAnaH- sab yahI bAt kahe.nge. bhagavAnakI vANIme.n ananta rahasya AtA hai. usame.n vastukA svarUp aisA hai ki dravya svaya.n, svaya.nkI bhAvanA anusAr pariNati kiye binA rahatA nahI.n. dravya svaya.n svata.ntra hai aur svaya.nsiddha hai. apane Ap pariNatikI gati karatA hai. .. vah bhAvanA alag hai.

mumukShuH- AtmabhAvanA bhAvatA jIv lahe kevalaj~nAn, vah bhAvanA.

samAdhAnaH- hA.N, vah bhAvanA. AtmabhAvanA bhAvatA lahe keval, vah bhAvanA alaga. ata.nrakI pariNatikI bhAvanA alag hai. svaya.n hI mokShake pa.nth par apanA kArya shurU kar detA hai.

mumukShuH- ...paDhate samay ApakI dR^iDhatA aur usakA jor koI alag hI lagatA hai.

samAdhAnaH- us dinA A gayI hai. bhAvanAkI kuCh bAt huyI, usame.nse us vakta A gayA hai.

mumukShuH- mAtAjI! koI-koI bAr Apake mukhase aisI bAt nikal jAtI hai ki andar cho.nT lag jAya. aisI sundar rItase bAt A jAtI hai.