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mumukShu- bhAvabhed mAno to hI usakA phainsalA hogA.
samAdhAna- hAn, to hI phainsalA hotA hai. vah hai, vah usakI paryAy sat hai aisA batAneke liye hai. parantu usake gnAnamen aisA hai ki ye bhinna hai-bhinna hai, bhAvabhed to vaise hI rahatA hai ki yah bhinna hai, yah bhinna hai. bhedagnAn karanevAleko aisA hI hotA hai ki ye rAg bhinna hai aur gnAn bhinna hai. rAg bhinna aur gnAn bhinna hai. yah main gnAn hUn aur yah rAg hai. bhAvabhedase bhed honeke kAraN vah bhinna hI hai. parantu asthiratA hai vah usake gnAnamen rahatA hai, vah mere puruShArthakI mandatAse hotA hai. vah chaitanyakI paryAyamen hotA hai. parantu merA svabhAv nahIn hai.
mumukShu- barAbar baiThatA hai. pradesh dononke bhinna mAnanemen to Aye to do dravya ho jAya.
samAdhAna- do dravya hI bhinna ho jAte hain.
mumukShu- vyavasthA TUT jAya.
samAdhAna- sab vyavasthA TUT jAya. usakA vedan chaitanyako ho hI nahIn to vibhAvakA vedan... svabhAvaparyAyakI to ek alag bAt hai ki vah svabhAvakI paryAy hai. parantu ye vibhAv hai, usakA bhale kShetrabhed ho, kyonki vah nimitta-orase hotA hai. parantu puruShArthakI mandatAse apanI pariNati hotI hai, utanA use lakShyamen rakhanA chAhiye. nahIn to puruShArtha karanA hI nahIn rahatA hai.
mumukShu- abhI merI ek jagah bAt huyI, satsangamen charchA huyI to usamen aisI bAt AyI, us bhAIne aise bAt kahI ki, Aj tak jo kuchh kiyA hai, us par rekhA nahIn khInchI jAy, chaukaDI mAranemen nahIn Aye to nishchay pragaT nahIn hotA. arthAt manda kaShAy karate.. karate.. karate... dharma pragaT ho jAyagA, yA dhAraNA gnAn majabUt karate-karate nishchay pragaT ho jAyagA, aisA tIn kAlamen bane nahIn. to Apane ek bAr kahA thA ki, dhAraNA gnAn bhI majabUt ho to dUsare bhavamen sanskArUpamen kAm AyegA. to vah AshvAsanarUp hai yA hakIkatarUp hai?
samAdhAna- nahIn, nahIn. dhAraNAgnAn yAnI vah dhokhanerUp gnAn samajhanA ki yah ajIv hai, ajIv hai, aise. dhAraNAgnAn yAnI vaisA gnAna. dhAraNAgnAn yA kaShAy manda karenge to dharma hogA, mandatA usakA sAdhan hai, aisI mAnyatAse use nukasAn hai. vah use sAdhan nahIn hotA. dhAraNAgnAn use vAstavik sAdhan nahIn hotA. usakA vAstavik sAdhan dhAraNAgnAn nahIn, parantu antaramen svayam dRuShTi kare, apanA gnAn svayamkA sAdhan hotA hai, parantu bIchamen vah AtA hai.
dhAraNAgnAn yAnI raTA huA gnAn aisA nahIn. parantu main yah chaitanya hUn, yah svabhAv