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mumukShu- kabhI to aisA lagatA hai mAno shuShkatA A jAtI hai, hRuday bhIgA huA nahIn rahakarake. usamen tattvakI samajhakA kyA doSh hogA?
samAdhAna- shuShkatA to apane kAraNase (hotI hai). bAkI apanA hRuday bhIgA huA rahe, apane svabhAvakI mahimA Aye, apane svabhAvamen hI sarvasva hai. yah sab bAharakA hai vah to tuchchha hai. svabhAvakI mahimA to... mahimAse bharA svabhAv hai. aisI mahimA Aye to aisA nahIn hotA, shuShkatA Aye hI nahIn, usakA hRuday bhIgA huA rahe. apanA svabhAv, vahI adabhut aur AdaraNIy hai. shuShkatAko palaT denA ki mahimAvant merA svabhAv hai. ye bAhya vastu kuchh mahimAvant nahIn hai.
mumukShu- samajh kI ho, lekin andar kuchh AcharaN karanekA AtA nahIn.
samAdhAna- vah AcharaN hI hai. svabhAvakI or jise sachchI samajh ho, vah antaramen utanA lIn hotA hI nahIn. use jo vibhAv pariNAm sankalpa-vikalpa Aye usamen usakI tanmayatA nahIn hotI. ras TUT hI jAtA hai. usakA hRuday bhIgA huA rahatA hai. use kahIn chain nahIn paDatA. svabhAvake sivA kahIn chain nahIn paDatA. use bAhya padAthAmen, khAne-pInemen har jagahase ras uD jAtA hai. antarase niras ho jAtA hai, svabhAvakI mahimA lagatI hai.
mumukShu- ananta.. ananta.. ananta kAl gayA to bhI mokSha prApta nahIn huA. to aisA lagatA hai ki ananta-ananta kAl mokSha prApta karaneke liye lagatA hogA?
samAdhAna- ananta kAlase mokSha nahIn huA usakA kAraN svayam kahIn-kahIn aTakA hai. mAtra kriyAmen dharma mAn liyA, thoDA kuchh kar liyA, kuchh shubhabhAv kar liyA, kuchh dayA, dAn thoDA-thoDA kar liyA to mAno dharma ho gayA. aisA mAn liyA. isaliye mokSha nahIn huA. kahIn-kahIn bAhar aTak gayA. tyAg kiyA, munipanA liyA parantu bAharamen mAnon mainne bahut kiyA, mainne tyAg kiyA, bahut kiyA. aisA mAn-mAnakar aTakA hai. antaramen jo svabhAv hai, usako grahaN nahIn kiyA hai. apanA svabhAv grahaN kare to ananta kAl lage hI nahIn.
ananta kAl laganekA kAraN kriyAommen, bAhar shubhabhAvommen sthit rahA. svabhAvako