grahaN karanemen ananta kAl nahIn lagatA. ananta kAl rakhaDanemen lagA, lekin svabhAv pragaT karanemen ananta kAl nahIn lagatA. yadi svabhAvako grahaN kare to bahutonko antarmuhUrtamen ho jAtA hai aur bahutonko kAl lage to thoDe bhavamen bhI use mokSha, kevalagnAn hotA hai. aur samyagdarshan to yadi svayam puruShArtha kare to use ho sakatA hai. is kAlamen bhI ho sakatA hai.
mumukShu- Apane to chhoTI umramen prApta kar liyA. aur ApakI deshanA sune tabhI kuchh lagatA hai, bAkI to ham jaisonko kuchh mAlUm nahIn paDatA hai, sUjh nahIn paDatI ki kaise kis prakArase kaise bAt karanI, utanA gahan tattva lagatA hai.
samAdhAna- svabhAv AtmAkA gahan hI hai. anek jAtakI mahimAonse bharA huA, gahanatAse bharA huA svabhAv hai.
mumukShu- prasanna chittase is AtmAkI bAt sunI ho, use bhI mukti samIp hai.
samAdhAna- prasanna chittase AtmAkI vArtA sunI to bhAvi nirvAN bhAjanama. bhaviShyamen nirvANakA bhAjan banatA hai. koI apUrva rItase. gurudevane apUrva vANI barasAyI. use apUrva mahimA Aye ki yah vastu koI alag hI hai. main jis mArga par hUn, vah yah nahIn hai. koI antarakA mArga hai. use AtmAmense mahimA hI koI alag AtI hai. aisI prasanna chittase apUrva rItase sunA ho to bhAvi nirvAN bhAjanama. bhaviShyamen use chaitanyakI or puruShArtha uThanevAlA hI hai aur avashya bhAvi nirvAN-bhaviShyamen nirvANakA bhAjan hai. bahut bAr apaneAp (sunA ho), parantu koI apUrva rItase sunA nahIn hai. aise apUrva rItase, prasanna chittase sune to bhaviShyamen nirvANakA bhAjan hotA hai.
mumukShu- ... bAt to samyagdRuShTi puruSh Ap jaise kar sako. parantu aisA yog na ho to kyA karen?
samAdhAna- jisakI taiyArI ho use bAhar aise nimitta mil hI jAte hain. is pancham kAlamen..
mumukShu- ... ApakA nimitta mil gayA, hamako to aisA lagatA hai. andarase aisA lagatA hai ki ApakI deshanA... unakI aisI koI pAtratA ho gayI hai.
samAdhAna- mahAdurlabh thA, usamen gurudevakA is pancham kAlamen janma huA. kitane jIvonkI taiyArI (ho gayI). unakI vANI aisI apUrva thI. kitane hI jIvonko AtmAmen apUrvatA lagatI hai ki ye kuchh alag kahate haiain. chAhe jitanA baDA samudAy ho, koI samajhe na samajhe to bhI aise prasanna chittase sunate hon.
mumukShu- gurudevakI vANI..
samAdhAna- kuchh alag hI prakArase lalakArake kahate the. unakA pratAp hai. unake