Benshreeni Amrut Vani Part 2 Transcripts-Hindi (English transliteration).

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hotA. puruShArthake sAth kramabaddhakA sambandha hotA hai. kAlalabdhi, puruShArtha, kShayopasham sabakA sambandha hai, usamen puruShArtha mukhya hai. jaisI puruShArthakI gati mumukShukI hotI hai, us anusAr sab palaTatA hai.

mumukShu- puruShArtha manda paDe to samajhanA ki kramabaddha abhI baiThA nahIn hai.

samAdhAna- hAn, to kramabaddha sachche svarUpamen samajhA hI nahIn. kramabaddhako sachchA samajhA hI nahIn.

mumukShu- jaisA Ap kahate ho usamen to puruShArtha hI...

samAdhAna- puruShArthakI or hI jAnA, mukhya puruShArtha hai. sab kartAbuddhi chhuDAnekI bAt hai. andarake puruShArthakI mandatAke liye vah nahIn hai. tU gnAyak ho jA. gnAtAkI dhArA AyI, usamen puruShArtha A gayA. gnAyak huA usamen bhedagnAnakA prayatna A gayA.

mumukShu- kar sakatA nahIn, to akartA svabhAv par lakShya rakhanA?

samAdhAna- apanI paryAy nahIn palaT sakatA, vah bAt ek orakI hai. dravyake joramen kahatA hai. bAkI apanI paryAyako ek apekShAse badal sakatA hai. ekAnta nahIn badal sakatA aisA nahIn hai. ashubhamense shubhamen Aye aur shubhamense shuddhamen jAtA hai. vah apane puruShArthakI gatise hI hotA hai. vah use koI nahIn kar detA. vah apaneAp hotA hai, aisA kuchh nahIn hai.

dravyadRuShTike joramen, dravyadRuShTimen aisA Aye ki paryAy apaneAp hotI hai. apaneAp hotI nahIn, dravyake Ashrayase paryAy hotI hai. paryAy Upar-Upar nahIn hotI. usakI ruchi jis orakI ho us jAtakI paryAy vaisI hotI hai. paryAyakA kartA svayam nahIn hai, vah ek orakI bAt hai. dravyadRuShTikI apekShAse kahanemen AtA hai. dravyake Ashrayase paryAy hotI hai. paryAy Upar-Upar nahIn hotI.

... kI paryAy apaneAp nahIn hotI. jo darshan, gnAn, chAritra pragaT hote hain, to vah dravyadRuShTike Alambanamen hotI hai. vah Alamban apaneAp nahIn ho jAtA. usakA koI kartA nahIn hai, aisA nahIn hai. dravyake Ashrayase hotI hai. dravyadRuShTike Alambanake balase hotI hai. usamen gnAnake sAth, lInatA sAthamen hotI hai. sAdhanA honI hogI to hogI, vah paryAy apane Ap hogI, aisA nahIn hai. dravyadRuShTike balamen aisA kahanemen AtA hai. bAkI to vah ekAnta ho jAtA hai.

mumukShu- ... kahate hain to aisI koI vivakShA hai ki dravyadRuShTikA..

samAdhAna- nahIn, dravya shAshvat hai aur paryAy ansh hai. isaliye paryAyakA pariNaman paryAy svatantra kare, aisA kahanemen AtA hai. kahanemen AtA hai yAnI vah ansh hai aur vah trikAl hai. arthAt vah paryAy Upar-Upar nahIn hai. koI dravyakA use Ashray nahIn