mumukShuH- vivekame.n bhI aisA koI prakAr hogA ki usame.n koI bAr viparItatA bhI Aye aur koI bAr yathArthatA ho, aisA hotA hai? ... sab bAbatame.n vivek yathArtha hI Aye ki koI bAr vivek...
samAdhAnaH- ruchivAleko nA?
mumukShuH- jI hA.N, ruchivAleko.
samAdhAnaH- ruchivAleko aisA niyam nahI.n hotA. samyak dhArA ho, j~nAn samyakaj~nAn ho use to yathArtha hotA hai. ruchivAleko usakI ruchime.n kuCh mandatA A jAy to alag ho jAya. ruchi yathArtha rahA kare to yathArtha AtA hai. usame.n ruchime.n pheraphAr ho to pheraphAr hotA hai.
mumukShuH- jIv abhavI hai yA bhavya hai, usakA apaneko khyAl Aye?
samAdhAnaH- khyAl Aye. apanI jij~nAsA a.ntarame.n...
mumukShuH- ...
samAdhAnaH- jise gaharAIse AtmAkI pariNati apanI or jAtI ho, svaya.nko AtmAkI hI ruchi lage to vah abhavi nahI.n hotA.
mumukShuH- ... ruchi jyAdA hotI hai isaliye aisI sha.nkA bhI nahI.n hotI na?
samAdhAnaH- nahI.n. ruchi apanI or jise AtmAkI ho, vah abhavi nahI.n hotA.
mumukShuH- puruShArtha jyAdA ho to aisA nahI.n hotA.
samAdhAnaH- jise AtmAkI or ruchi ho vah abhavi nahI.n hotA. gurudevane itanA samajhAyA ki shubhAshubh bhAv bhI usakA svabhAv nahI.n hai. vah jise a.ntarase baiThe aur AtmAkI ruchi jise lage vah abhavi nahI.n hotA.
mumukShuH- bahut bAr .. baiThA hotA hai, parantu kahate hai.n na? ananta bAr jAkar AyA, parantu ruchi nahI.n thI...
samAdhAnaH- lekin usane a.ntarase bhagavAnako nahI.n pahichAne hai.n. isaliye vApas AtA hai. bhagavAnako bAharase pahichAnA. bhagavAn samavasaraName.n baiThe hai.n, bhagavAnako aShTa prAtihArya hai.n, bhagavAn si.nhAsaname.n baiThe hai.n, bhagavAnako Chatra aur cha.Nvar (hote hai.n). bhagavAnakA sharIr shAnta hai, aisA sab dekhA. lekin a.ntarame.n bhagavAn kyA kahate hai.n, vah nahI.n pahichAnA. isaliye vApas AyA. bhagavAnakA svarUp nahI.n pahichAnA hai. unake AtmAkA kyA svarUp hai, use nahI.n pahichAnA hai, isaliye vApas AtA haiai.
mumukShuH- andarase AtmA jAgR^it huA ho aur ruchi ho to..?
samAdhAnaH- nahI.n, vah abhavi nahI.n hotA. abhavi jagatame.n bahut kam hai.n. ananta bhavi aur ek abhavi. ananta bhavi aur ek abhavi. aise abhavi ananta hai.n, phir