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asaṅkhya (paramāṇu ne kālāṇu ne ek (pradesh chhe. e pradesho potānā sthānamān utpanna “sva–rūpathī
utpanna” utpanna eṭale (e pradesh upar) lakṣha karatān e svarūpathī chhe. ane “pūrva rūpathī vinaṣhṭa”
pūrvathī (pūrvanā pradeshathī) te abhāvarūp chhe. (arthāt) bījo je pradesh chhe enāthī ā pradesh abhāv
(svarūp) chhe. jhīṇun āvyun thoḍu’ ka, hajī vadhāre jhīṇun āvashe. “pūrvarūpathī viniṣhṭa hovāthī tathā
sarvatra (badhey) paraspar anusyūtithī rachāyelān.” chhe, chhe, chhe, chhe em asaṅkhyapradesh ātmāmān (chhe).
e badhey chhe. pūrvanī apekṣhāe potāmān ‘vinaṣhṭa’ kīdhun, potānī apekṣhāe ‘utpanna’ kīdhun ane sarvatra
chhechhechhechhe ene utpanna nahīn, vinaṣhṭa nahīn e dhrauvya chhechhechhechhe (kīdhun.) āhā... hā... hā! āvī vāt
bhāī, bhāī! āvyā chhe, ṭhīk gāthā āvī. āhā... hā..!
bījo pradesh emān nathī ane potānī apekṣhāe (e pradeshane) utpanna kahīe, paṇ chhechhechhechhe nī
apekṣhāe utpanna-vinaṣhṭa nahīn (dhrauvya kahīe.) (shrotāḥ) bhāī āvyā chhe to pahelethī laīe to...
(uttaraḥ) ā pahelethī ja chhe ne..! ahīnyān ā pahelethī chhe. ā kahīe chhīe te pahelethī chhe. ā to
kāle līdhun’ tun pharīne laīe. āhā...hā!
samaye thāy
viṣhay) pachhī āvashe, paryāyanī, tyāre kaheshun.
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(em) kahe chhe. āhā... hā! āvī vātun! hajī jhīṇun āvashe thoḍun’ ka, ā to ahīnyāthī līdhun.
(‘pariṇāmo’) bahuvachan chhe ne..! “pariṇāmo potānā avasaramān sva–rūpathī utpanna.” te te samaye
jaḍ ne chetananī je pariṇati-paryāy thavānī tethī tene utpanna kahīe āhā.. hā! chhe? “te pariṇāmo
potānā sva–rūpathī utpanna.” āhā... hā! ene ṭhekāṇe ame ā badhā-mandir banāvīe, āgam mandir
banāvīe, pustak banāvīe (em māne.) (shrotāḥ) ahīn bandhāī gayun chhe! (uttaraḥ) hen, bandhāī
gyun! bandhāī gyā chhe ene kāraṇe. rāmajībhāīne kāraṇe e banyun nathī ane vīrajībhāīne kāraṇe bandhāyun
nathī. āhā... hā! ā makānanī je paryāy, je samaye je paryāy utpanna thavānī hatī te pūrvanī
apekṣhāe tene vinaṣhṭa kahīe, utpannanī (potānī apekṣhāe) utpanna kahīe. enun pariṇām chhe chhe, chhe,
chhe, chhe (ene dhrauvya kahīe.) to ek ja pariṇāmane traṇ lāgu paḍe. utpanna, vyay ne dhrauvya. āhā...
hā..! (shrotāḥ) āmān (āvun samajavāmān) amane lābh shun?
gnātā-draṣhṭā thāy, tyāre ene samyagdarshan thāy. āhā... hā! āvī vāt bāpu! jhīṇī, kyān’ya
sampradāyamān to chhe nahīn. jain sampradāy digambaramān chhe nahīn, kyān ṭhekāṇān chhe? ā badhā sheṭhiyāo enā
rahyā! kyān eṇe sāmbhaḷyun chhe koī dī’. āhā..! bhāī! vastusthiti evī chhe. koīne em lāge ke
jayāre je avasare pariṇām thāy tyāre thashe, māre shun? paṇ e avasare pariṇām thāy, e pariṇāmane
traṇ lāgu paḍe. pūrvanī apekṣhāe tene vinaṣhṭa - abhāv, potānī apekṣhāe utpanna ane chhechhechhechhe te
dhrauvya - evī jenī draṣhṭi thāy te ātmā upar jāy. ātmā gnātā-draṣhṭā chhe kartā nathī (evī pratīti
thāy.) e nirmaḷaparyāy thāy teno ya kartā (ātmā) nathī. e nyān thavānī chhe te thaī (chhe.)
āhā... hā! āvī vātun chhe. dhīmethī (vichāravun) hajī enāthī have jhīṇī āvashe. chāle chhe vāt
jhīṇī, enāthī jhīṇī have āvashe. āhā.. hā!
nahīn, vichāre nahīn. bāpu, shun chhe bhāī! āhā... hā..! hen shun kīdhun
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(emānno) ek pradesh chhe. tene chhevaṭano kahīe athavā nāno kahīe. e ansh-e pradesh pūrvanī
apekṣhāe vinaṣhṭasvarūp chhe. “pūrva pradeshanā vināshasvarūp chhe te ja (ansh) tyār pachhīnā pradeshanā
utpād svarūp chhe tathā te ja paraspar anusyūtithī rachāyelā ekavāstupaṇā vaḍe anubhayasvarūp chhe.”
(shun kahe chhe?) e nāno ansh (chhevaṭano ansh) - e pradesh pūrvanī apekṣhāe vinaṣhṭasvarūp chhe. ane
te ja ansh ‘tyārapachhīnā’ eṭale vinaṣhṭasvarūp chhe (je anshanī apekṣhāe te ansh pachhīno ansh
utpādasvarūp chhe.) juo, je pradesh chhe ahīnyān asaṅkhyapradesh (ātmānā) temān je ek pradesh upar
lakṣha kare to te pradesh pūrvanā (pahelānā pradeshanī) apekṣhāe te vinaṣhṭa chhe ane te ja pradesh pachhīnī
apekṣhāe utpanna - pachhī eṭale jene (je pradeshanī) apekṣhāe jene (je pradeshane) vinaṣhṭa kahyo hato
enī apekṣhāe āne utpanna kahyo. āhā.. hā...! ā jhīṇun chhe ā.
lakṣha thāy te (ek) pradesh pūrvanī apekṣhāe - bījā pradeshanī apekṣhāe abhāvavyayasvarūp chhe. ane
e (ek) pradesh potānī apekṣhāe utpanna svarūp chhe. ane te chhechhe (te pradesh chhe) e dhrauvyasvarūp
chhe. paṇ have ahīnyān to kaī apekṣhā pāchhī līdhī, keḥ je pūrvanī apekṣhāe vinaṣhṭa chhe e tyār pachhīnī
apekṣhāe utpanna chhe. ‘tyārapachhī’ eṭale olo (je pradesh) vinaṣhṭa kahyo - je pūrvanā (pradeshanī)
apekṣhāe, enā pachhīnī apekṣhāe te utpanna chhe. āhā... hā..! samajāṇun kāī? pharīne laīe emān
kāī (punarāvr̥utti doṣh adhyātmamān nathī.) amāre bhāī āvyā chhe ne..! āvī jhīṇī vāt sāmbhaḷavā
āvyā (chhe.) āhā... hā...!
- koīpaṇ ekapradesh upar lakṣha jāy, athavā lakṣhamān līdho. te pradesh pūrva (nā pradeshanī) apekṣhāe
abhāvasvarūp chhe - viniṣhṭasvarūp chhe. (te pradesh) potānī apekṣhāe utpanna chhe ane chhechhe apekṣhāe
dhrauvya chhe. have ahīnyān (ṭīkāmān) pāchhun em kahe chhe ke
(lakṣhamān līdhel) je vartamān pradeshane pūrvanā (pradeshanī apekṣhā) vinaṣhṭa kahyun hatun e pūrvanā pradesh
‘tyār pachhīnā’ pradeshane utpannasvarūp kahe chhe. (arthāt) tyārapachhīnā eṭale ke je vinaṣhṭa svarūp ne
kahyun hatun (je pradeshane) eṭale ke je vartamān (lakṣhamān līdhel) pradeshane pūrvanā pradeshanī apekṣhā
vinaṣhṭasvarūp, potāne vinaṣhṭa svarūp kahyun’ tun. olun to (viniṣhṭa to) chhe ja paṇ enā (vinaṣhṭa)
pachhīnā (pradeshane) utpanna je vinaṣhṭa jenī apekṣhāe ātmānā je pradeshane vinaṣhṭa kahīe - pahelā
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apekṣhā vinaṣhṭa kahyo enā pachhīnā eṭale (tyār pachhīnā) te utpanna, pahelānī apekṣhāe utpanna,
samajāṇun kāī? ‘tyārapachhīnā’ eṭale utpanna chhe enī pachhīno em nahīn, e pote ja chhe. (viniṣhṭa
ne utpanna e pote ja chhe apekṣhā judī-judī chhe.) āhā...hā...!
apekṣhāe lakṣhamān līdhelo pahelo maṇako) vinaṣhṭa chhe. ane te vinaṣhṭa chhe (je maṇakānī apekṣhāe te
maṇakā) pachhīno - tyārapachhīno chhe tethī te utpanna. jem e (lakṣhamān līdhel) pradesh, bījā pradeshanī
apekṣhāe vinaṣhṭa hato. tyārapachhīnā eṭale je pradeshathī abhāvarūp kahyo hato enā pachhīno eṭale ā
ī ja ene utpanna kahīe. samajāṇun kāī? (shrotāḥ) samajātun nathī kāī...! (uttaraḥ) pradesh je ek-
ek chhe e ekane game te ek lyo emānthī (lakṣhamān). juo, (pustak chhe enān pānān pradesh chhe) ā
(pānun) ā pradesh chhe ahīnyān. (108 nambarano pradesh ahīnyān chhe) have ahīnyā ānī (107)
nambaranā pradesh pānānnī apekṣhāe ā (108) vinaṣhṭa chhe. ane enā pachhī eṭale ānā pachhī
(108) pachhī, eṭale utpanna thavāno chhe enā pachhī em nahīn (paṇ) jenī apekṣhāe (eṭale 107
pradesh-pānān) nī apekṣhāe vinaṣhṭa kahyo hato e vinaṣhṭanī apekṣhāe - pahelānī apekṣhāe (107
pānānnī) apekṣhāe (108 pradesh-pānān) utpanna chhe. samajāy chhe kāī? juo ā āṅgaḷīo chār
chhe. ā (tarjanī) āṅgaḷī enī āgaḷanī (lāmbī) āṅgaḷīnī apekṣhāe vinaṣhṭa chhe ane e
(lāmbī āṅgaḷī) pachhīnī apekṣhāe te (tarjanī) utpanna chhe. (lāmbī āṅgaḷī chhe) enā pachhīnī
apekṣhāe te (tarjanī) utpanna chhe. samajāy chhe? have āṅgaḷī uparathī to līdhun have. ā (sauthī
lāmbī āṅgaḷīnī apekṣhāe tarjanī) te vinaṣhṭa chhe. ane ānā pachhīnī (eṭale ke sauthī lāmbī
āṅgaḷī chhe tenā) pachhīnī apekṣhāe te (tarjanī) utpanna chhe. samajāy chhe kāī? (shrotā) ek ne
ek utpanna ne vinaṣhṭa?
lāmbī āṅgaḷī chhe je chhe tarjanī pahelān) enī apekṣhāe te (tarjanī) vinaṣhṭasvarūp chhe. ane tyār
pachhīnā eṭale (sauthī lāmbī āṅgaḷī pachhīnī) ā (tarjanī) ene utpanna kahīe. āhā... hā!
samajāy chhe kāī? em darek pradeshane pūrvanī apekṣhāe vyay, ane enī pachhīnī apekṣhāe utpanna ane
chhechhechhechhe e apekṣhāe dhrauvya (kahevāy chhe.) āhā... hā.! shun shāstranī shailī! rātre jarā kahyun’ tun ne..!
prāpya, vikārya ne nirvartya. ‘samayasār’ mān āve chhe. darek padārthane je samaye je paryāy thavānī chhe
(temān ā traṇey lāgu paḍe). ā pradeshanun kahyun have āpaṇe pariṇāmamān laīe chhīe.
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anusyūtithī rachāyelā.” paṇ koīnī apekṣhā nathī (dhrauvyane) chhechhechhechhechhechhechhe “ek pravāhapaṇā vaḍe
anubhayasvarūp chhe.” anubhayasvarūp (chhe) bemānthī ekey sambandh nathī. (utpanna ke vinaṣhṭa.) e draṣhṭānt
thayo pradeshano. have pariṇāmanī vāt kare chhe. āhā...hā...!
vinaṣhṭa kahevāy, ane pūrvanā pariṇāmanī apekṣhāe tene tyārapachhīno (ansh) kahevāy. utpanna kahevāy.
ane tene ja ā chhe, ā chhe, ā chhe tene dhrauvya kahevāy. (shrotāḥ) ekanā traṇ nām? (uttaraḥ)
ekanā traṇ. (nām). (‘samayasār’ gāthā) 76 mān ekanā traṇ āvyā ne...! prāpya, vikārya,
nirvirtya... bhāī! je paryāy pragaṭ thaī ane dhrauvya chhe ī dhrauvya chhe. dhrauvya (eṭale) thavānī chhe te
kāḷe te thaī te dhrauvya. e apekṣhā tene prāpya kahyun. ane pūrvanī apekṣhāe tene... kyān gayā’tā?
kharekhar gayun āj to. kharun hatun ne gayun! āhā.. hā! tadna navun chhe. samajāṇun kāī? pradeshanun to gayun
have. have pariṇām upar laīe chhīe. ke pariṇām chhe jīvanā, je samaye je thavānā te. te pariṇām
pūrvanā pariṇāmanī apekṣhāe vinaṣhṭa, ane tyārapachhīnī apekṣhāe utpanna tyārapachhī eṭale pūrvanī
apekṣhā je vinaṣhṭa kahyun’ tun e pūrvanī apekṣhā pachhīnun e utpanna. āhā...hā..! (paṇḍitajī!) āvun
jhīṇun chhe. dhīme-dhīme (vyākhyā) thāy chhe bāpā! āhā...! ākaro. vītarāg mārag chhe. āhā...hā!
apekṣhāe utpanna. tyārapachhīnā eṭale? e je pūrvano pradesh hato, tenā pachhīnī apekṣhāe te utpanna chhe
(eṭale tyārapachhīnā kahyun chhe) ane chhe, chhe, chhe, chhe, chhe, chhe, chhe, chhe, chhe, chhe e apekṣhāe dhrauvya chhe.
āhā... hā!
‘prāpya’, ek avasthāthī bījī avasthā je badalavāpaṇun āvyun’ te ‘vikārya’, ane navī avasthānun
je nīpajavun thāy te nirvartya. - samayasār pravachano bhāg-4 pānun- 100
paryāy thavānī chhe - dravyanī ke ātmānī ke bījā dravyonī. te payāy dhrauvya chhe. dhrauvya eṭale
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vikārya kahyun. pūrvano abhāv chhe. te ja apekṣhāe te paryāyane vikārya kahyo. pahelun prāpya kīdhun’ tun te ja
pariṇāmane pūrvanī apekṣhāe ene vikārya eṭale badalīne thayun em kahyun ane nirvartya-ūpajayun chhe. ī
ne ī paryāyane ūpajayun chhe te apekṣhāe tene nirvartya kahīe. prāpya, vikārya ane nirvartya. ā... re!
āvī vātun have (prāpya, vikārya ne nirvartyanun pūrun svarūp gāthā) 76-77-78-79 chāramān āve chhe.
āhā... hā!
pariṇāmane kahevāy chhe). āhā... hā..! e pariṇām e samaye tyān ‘chhe’ enī apekṣhāe prāpya -
dhrauvya kahīe. ane pūrvanī apekṣhāe badalīne thyun māṭe ene vikārya kahīe ane ūpajayun chhe e
apekṣhāe paranī apekṣhā jyān na āvī (ūpajavāmān) - e ūpajayun chhe te (apekṣhāe) tene nirvartya
kahīe. āhā... hā..! e bhāī! mumbaīmān, mumbaīmān kāī na maḷe, badhe thothān, paisā maḷe, be-aḍhī
hajārano pagār maḷe. (ā tattva na maḷe.) āhā.. hā! em e pariṇām je ātmāmān thavānā e
thavānā te teno avasar ja chhe. e āghe - pāchhaḷ nahīn. paṇ te pariṇāmanī traṇ apekṣhā (chhe.) pūrva
pariṇāmanī apekṣhāe vyay vinaṣhṭa kahīe. tene ja pūrvanī apekṣhā kahīne tyār pachhīno kahīne utpanna
kahīe. (arthāt) tyārapachhīno kahīne (utpād) utpanna kahīe. ane tene ja pūrvanī apekṣhā ane
tyār pachhīnī be apekṣhā chhoḍī daīe ‘chhe’ to ene dhrauvya kahīe. āhā... hā! samajāṇun? (shrotāḥ)
ekamān traṇ.
vartamān pariṇām utpanna thāy, te te ja samaye thāy, āgaḷ-pāchhaḷ nahīn “kramabaddha” “ā ek jo
samaje “kramabaddha” nun to badho phensalo ūḍī (thaī) jāy.”
tyārapachhī eṭale pūrvanī apekṣhā kīdhī tyār pachhīnī em. ane te kāḷe ‘chhe’ parane laīne abhāv
(vinaṣhṭa) potāne laīne utpanna (utpād) evī koī apekṣhā nathī ‘chhe’ e dhrauvya
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(je thavānī hoy te thāy chhe.) bhagavānanī pratimā - paṇ je samaye jyān paryāy thavānī chhe -pratiṣhṭhā
-e paryāy te samaye thaī e pūrver na hatī e apekṣhāe vinaṣhṭa kahīe ane vartamān je paryāy thaī
tene utpanna kahīe. vinaṣhṭa pachhīnī paryāy thaī te utpanna kīdhī. ane tene pūrvanī ane utpannanī evī
apekṣhāo na lyo to ‘chhe’ e dhrauvya chhe. samajāy chhe kāī? bhāī! āvun badhun kalakatāmān ya nathī ne
kyān’ ya nathī! badhun thothe-thothān. paisā maḷe ne dekhe. ī. enī (paṇ) ahīnyān to nā pāḍe chhe.
paisānī paryāy je samaye ahīnyān āvavānī e paṇ eno avasar chhe. pūrvanī apekṣhāe e paryāyane
vinaṣhṭa kahī vyay kahīe. ane enā pachhīnī apekṣhāe tene utpanna kahīe ane te ‘chhe’ ‘chhe’ ‘chhe’
‘chhe’ ‘chhe’ e apekṣhāe dhrauvya kahīe. bhāī! āvun chhe, prabhu! shun thāy? ā kāī bhagavāne karelun
nathī. bhagavān to em kahe chhe keḥ bhāṣhānī paryāy- divyadhvaninī je thaī te vakhate te paryāyano
avasar hato te thaī. bhāṣhānī (paryāy) ātmāe karī nathī. e (divyadhvani paryāyane, pūrvanī
apekṣhāe - vargaṇānī apekṣhā laīe, hajī bhāṣhā thaī nahotī - te apekṣhāe tene viniṣhṭa kahīe.
ane vargaṇā pachhīnī (tyār pachhīnī) palaṭīne je bhāṣhā thaī tene utpanna kahīe ane te, te, te
paryāy chhe, chhe, chhe em ‘chhe’ nī apekṣhāe bhāṣhāvargaṇānī paryāy chhe, chhe, chhe tene dhrauvya kahīe. bhāī!
āvun chhe. haḷave-haḷave to kahevāy chhe.
kahī, ane enā pachhīnī (vyay pachhīnī) apekṣhāe e paryāyane utpād kahī, paṇ te ‘chhe’ nī
apekṣhāe tene dhrauvya kahī. āhā... hā! te kāḷanī te ja paryāy chhe āhā... hā! (gāthā) 76, 77,
78 mān e ja kahyun chhe. ‘samayasār’ āvī vāt! digambar santo! ghaṇī sādī bhāṣhāmān mūke chhe, paṇ
samajavun to paḍe ne...! bāpu! āhā...! e ī tame kīdhun’ tun ne....! ā vāñchavānun bākī chhe ī āvyun
āj. āhā... hā! samajāy chhe kāī?
shrīmukhathī nīkaḷelī divyadhvani (chhe.)!
paryāy (chhe, chhe, chhe) pudgalamān koī samaye paryāy nathī em to na hoy. em darekamān chhe, chhe, chhe, chhe,
nī apekṣhāe te dhrauvya chhe. em darekamān samajī levun. tethī ek-ek paryāyamān traṇ-paṇun lāgu paḍe
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e vinaṣhṭa (tathā) chhe, chhe, chhe, chhe, chhe te dhrauvya, eno nirṇay prabhu! āhā... hā! eno akartāpaṇāno
āhā.. hā! potānī (paryāy) ho! paranī to vāte ya shī karavī? paranī dashā pāḷavī, paisā devā,
paisā levā, e paryāy to tārī kartāpaṇānī nathī.’ emān tāro kāī adhikār nathī.’ (jyān potānī
paryāyano paṇ kartā nathī.) āhā... hā! munirāj! sāchā santo! emane āhār devā vakhate sharīranī
kriyā- je āhār (devānī) paryāy (thāy chhe.) e em te vakhate utpanna thavānī hatī te thaī (chhe.)
pūrvanī apekṣhāe tene vinaṣhṭa kahīe, thavānī apekṣhāe - tyār pachhīnī apekṣhāe tene utpanna kahīe
chhechhechhechhechhe tene dhrauvya kahīe. emān āhār denāro kahe ke ‘men āhār-pāṇī āpyān’ e vāt emān
rahetī nathī. āhā... hā! (shrotāḥ) badhāne lolān (pāṅgaḷā) banāvī dīdhān...! (uttaraḥ) badhāne
puruṣhārthavāḷā banāvī dīdhān. āhā...hā..! vīryavāḷā banāvyā ī. hun mārī paryāyano paṇ kartā nathī
evun mārun vīrya chhe. āhā...hā! samajāṇun kāī? gnātā chhaūn te mahāvīrya chhe. e mahāpuruṣhārtha chhe.
samajāy chhe kāī? āvī vātun have!! āmān vād - vivād kare to ī kyān pār paḍe! āhāhā!
vastusthiti!! badhā to em kahe ke kānajīsvāmī ahīn āvyā tyāre ā badhun thayun. e vāt -e
kahetā’ tā olā
em nathī bāpu!
utpanna benī apekṣhā jyān chhe ja nahīn chhechhechhe te kāḷe te paryāy, te kāḷe te paryāy, te kāḷe te paryāy
chhe. āhā... hā..! ‘chhe’ nī apekṣhāe ek - ek paryāyamān traṇapaṇun lāgu paḍe bāpu! āhā... hā..!
e to (‘samayasār’) 320 mān āvyun ne bhāī! sarvavishuddha adhikār.
paṇ te kāḷe thavānī hatī. ane te kāḷe thavānī hatī (te thaī) te utpād chhe. pahelānī apekṣhāe
vyay chhe. ane chhechhechhe e apekṣhāe dhrauvya chhe. paṇ gnānamān ‘jāṇavānī’ vāt (chhe.) e gnānanī
paryāy pheravun e nahīn pāchhun āhā...hā...! ā...re!
e santoe shāstra rachīne samajāvyun (chhe.) (āpe spaṣhṭīkaraṇ karīne sahelun banāvī dīdhun.) āhā...
hā..! āvun
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vāt.
paryāy thāy (te pravāh chhe.) e ek pachhī ek eṭale je thavānī chhe te ek pachhī ek hon! em
nahīn ke ek pachhī ek mān (kramasaramān) ek pachhī bījī kanīk paṇ thaī jāy em nahīn. varṇījī hāre
(ā vātanā) vāndhā hatā ne.....! have digambaranā agresar enī hāre ā vāndhā meḷ konī hāre
karavo? e... ya.!!
nahīn.) to ahīnyān to kahe chhe pūrvanī je samayanī je (paryāy) hatī, tenā pachhīnī je thavānī te ja
thāy. āhāhāhāhā...!
ek pachhī ek, ek pachhī ek eno (pravāhano) nānāmān nāno vartamān (ansh)
tyārapachhīnā” tyār pachhī eṭale je vināshasvarūp chhe. enī pahelān je (pariṇām) hatun enī
apekṣhāe ene vināshasvarūp kahyun. ane je (pariṇāmanī apekṣhāe) vināshasvarūp (vartamān)
pariṇāmane kahyun to (je pariṇāmanī apekṣhānī vināsh svarūp kahyun hatun te pariṇām) pachhī eṭale
tyārapachhīnā pariṇāmane utpanna kahyun. jene pūrvanī apekṣhāe vinaṣhṭa kahyun’ tun tene ja pūrvanī pachhīnī
apekṣhāe tene utpanna kahīe. āhā.. hā! samajāy chhe kāī? rātre prashna karavo. no’ samajāy to.
jhīṇun chhe bāpu, ā to. āhā.. hā! kyāy bāpadādāe ya sāmbhaḷyun nahotun. āhā... hā... hā!
ja hatī, bījī nahīn. paṇ pūrvanī apekṣhāe tene vartamān paryāyane vyay kahīe. ane enā pachhīnī te
pote chhe vartamān paryāy chhe māṭe tene utpanna kahīe ane pachhīnī ane pahelānī (vyay-utpanna) chhoḍī
dyo to tene dhrauvya - anubhay kahīe. chhe? āmān takarārun badhī, vāndhā. badhā olā nākhe
(patrikāmān) sonagaḍhanun sāhitya būḍī (būḍāḍī) deshe. sansāramān ūḍāvī deshe. olo karuṇādīp. varṇījī
kahī gyā chhe ne ke nākh badhey! bhagavān bāpu! ā vātane.... (satya vātane...!)
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hā...! jyān paryāy karavānun māne e paṇ mithyātva māne. ane enī potānī paṇ rāganī paryāy
karavānun māne te mithyātva māne, are! nirmaḷaparyāy paṇ karun (tene paṇ mithyātva māne.) paryāy je
thavānī chhe prabhu svayam te samay thavānī chhe. ene ṭhekāṇe karun e kyān rahyun? je thavānī chhe te thavānī
ja te. samajāy chhe kāī? āvī vāt chhe jhīṇī shun thāy. āhā.... hā..! ‘sat ā ja chhe bhāī...!’
bhagavānanun kahelun ane vastunun svarūp sat ām ja chhe. emān kyān’ ya sandehane sthān nathī. āghī -
pāchhī paryāy thāy e paṇ sandehane sthān nathī. āghī - pāchhīnī vyākhyā shun? prabhu! ke ā ṭhekāṇe
ā paryāy thavānī hatī te na thaī eṭale shun? ane ā paryāy pachchīsame samaye thaī eṭale shun?
pachchīsame samaye (je) paryāy thavānī hatī te na thaī eṭale shun? meḷ kyān? juvānone ākarun paḍe
evun chhe thoḍun! amārā ā (paṇḍitajī) ne e badhā to abhyāsī chhe. ene ā samajāy evun chhe ā
to. āhā... hā..!
pūrvanun pariṇām chhe tenī apekṣhāe tyār pachhī thyun chhe māṭe tyār pachhīnā pariṇāmanā utpād svarūp chhe.
āhā... hā! tathā te ja paryāy pravāhakramān āvī eṭale paryāy paraspar anusyūtithī rachāyelā je
pote saḷaṅg chhe, chhe, chhe, chhe, chhe, chhe (dhrauvya.) (māḷāmān) motī jem chhe chhe chhe chhe dhrauvya doro jem chhe.
motī chhe chhe chhe e darekane (pahelā-pachhīnā motīne) chhechhechhe lāgu paḍe chhe.
paramāṇumān ek pravāhapaṇe kramasar.... kramasar... kramasar... ek (ākho) pravāh krame, krame, kramathī thayā
ja kare chhe e apekṣhā laīe to te utpād ane vyay na kahevāy te dhrauvya kahevāy - chhe em kahevāy.
(anubhay chhe em kahevāy, anubhayasvarūp chhe.)
abhyāsamān nathī ane jyān - tyān hun karun. ā sharīr hāle to kahe hun halāvun chhun. bolun to paṇ hun.
‘svāhā’ bhagavānanī pūjāmān svāhā-svāhānī bhāṣhā paṇ mārī. ane (ardhya chaḍāvun te) ā
āṅgaḷā hāle chhe e paṇ mārā. āvī jyān hoy tyān buddhi paḍī chhe. (shrotāḥ) āṅgaḷā kenā chhe?
(uttaraḥ) āṅgaḷā jaḍanā (chhe.) ane jaḍanī avasthā thāy ī jaḍanā kāraṇe thāy. ane te avasthā
te ja samay te ja thavānī hatī. (te ja thaī chhe.) samajāṇun kāī?
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nathī eṭale 188 pāne juo, ahīnyān e hāle chhe. āhā... hā!
makān banāvun ne... emān āpaṇe raheshun ne.... bāyaḍī - chhokarāmvane tyān ṭhī’ ka paḍashe. are... re..
bhramaṇā, bhramaṇā bhramaṇā chhe. (em ahīnyān) kahe chhe prabhu! (shrotāḥ) badhāy bāvā thaī jāy to
āpashe koṇ khāvā?
polīs ek nīkaḷelo, beṭhelo bahār. eṭale pūrun thyun pachhī kahe mārā’ ja tame bahu tyāganun kaho chho.
badhā tyāgī thaī jashe to ene āhār-āhār koṇ āpashe? evo prashna karyo polīse. 78 nī
sālanī vāt chhe. keṭalān thyān sattāvan. kīdhun bāpun, ī koṇ āpashe ī prashna tyān chhe ja nahīn. e ṭāṇe
paryāy thavānī hoy te āpashe ja. āpashe ja (eṭale) thashe ja. men to javāb ī āpyo’ to ke’
ek māṇas lākhapati chhe ne pachchīlākh (pati) thavā māṅge chhe. te em vichāre ke ā badhā
pachchīsalākhavāḷā thaī jashe to garīb-vāsaṇ uṭakanārā koṇ raheshe? mārun rāndhanārun koṇ raheshe? ā
lākaḍā lāvanār koṇ raheshe? em vichār kare chhe kīdhun te dī’. ā to 78 nī vāt chhe chūḍāmān.
paryāy je chhe je samay thavānī e paryāyane traṇya lāgu paḍe. pūrvanī apekṣhāe vinaṣhṭa, vartamān
apekṣhāe, utpanna, chhechhe apekṣhāe dhrauvya. evī jyān paryāyano nirṇay kare tyāre te gnātā-draṣhṭā thāy.
tyāre te vartamān thatī paryāyano paṇ te kartā na thāy. kāraṇ ke emān ‘bhāv’ nāmano (ātmāmān)
guṇ chhe. ane anantaguṇamān ‘bhāv’ nun rūp chhe. je samaye je paryāy thavānī hoy te thāy ja. karun to
thāy nahitar na thāy em’ chhe nahīn. āhā... hā! ṭhīk! bhāī āvī gayā āj. āvun badhun vāramvār
na āve nyān. āto sāme pustak āvyun. hoy eno artha thāy ne..! āhā...! ā paṇḍito badhā
(ahīnyān chhe ne...!) ā māḷā’ paṇḍito lyo chhe ne pachās paṇḍito bhegā thyā’ tā īndor. ahīnyānno
virodh (karavā). ‘parantu na kare e digambar nahīn. ar... ra are prabhu! prabhu! ā tun shun kare chhe!
pachhī e shun kare? (satno virodh kare.) sthānakavāsī, shvetāmbaramān to e vāt (kramabaddhanī) ja nathī.
e to jainapaṇāthī viruddha badhī vāto enāmān to. āhā! ā to digambaramān paṇ goṭā ūṭhayā.
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paḍayā chhe lakhāṇ. prasiddha paḍayā chhe. āvā. (pravachanasār, niyamasār, samayasār ādi.) (kramabaddha)
eṇe em ke em nahīn. āpaṇe karīe to thāy ne na karīe to na thāy. paranun paṇ āpaṇe karīe
to thāy nahi to na thāy. are, ātmāmān paṇ paryāy karun to thāy nahitar na thāy. em chhe nahīn
sāmbhaḷ bhāī! prabhu, tun to gnānasvarūp chho ne...! āhā...! gnānanī paryāy paṇ thavānī te kāḷe thāy
ja. paṇ enī pradhānatā detān bījī paryāyane karun em nahīn tenā karanār nahīn paṇ tenā jāṇanār chhun
tyān ene ūbho rākhaje ko’ bhāī! āvun (sat chhe.) .
pravāhapaṇā vaḍe.” chhechhechhe nā ek pravāh vaḍe “anubhayasvarūp chhe.” e utpād ane vyayasvarūp nathī.
eṭale dhrauvyasvarūp chhe. āhā... hā! e traṇ-chār līṭīmān āṭalun badhun bharyun chhe. lyo, ā shrīmadnā
bhagat chhe emaṇe sāmbhaḷyun nahotun. paṇ (pariṇām) vastu chhe ke nahīn? chhe to tenā traṇ ansh paḍe chhe
ke nahīn? traṇ ansh paḍe chhe ī traṇe - ya pot - potānā, samaye pot-potāthī chhe ke nahīn? e ‘chhe’
e dhrauvya chhe. pūrvanī apekṣhāe tene vinaṣhṭa kahīe. ane vinaṣhṭa kahyun’ tun (je pariṇāmanī apekṣhāe
te pariṇām) pachhī te pote ja chhe tene utpanna kahīe. āhā... hā! (em ekane traṇ lāgu paḍe chhe.)
ja. tene paṇ traṇya apekṣhā lāgu pāḍī. ane tene (utpatti-sanhār) dhrauvya kīdhun. ā ‘pravachanasār’
mān ām kahyun. ‘samayasār’ mān prāpya, vikārya ne nirvartya kahyun. āhā.. hā! ek ja paryāyanā traṇ
(nām) tethī artha karyo ke prāpya eṭale dhrauvya, eṭale te samaye te (pariṇām) chhe. em darekamān
chhechhechhechhechhechhechhe ek pravāharūp chhechhechhechhechhechhechhe. āhā... hā! āvo nirṇay karavā jāy ene paranun
karavāpaṇun - paranun kartāpaṇun to ūḍī jāy paṇ potānī paryāyanun - rāganun kartāpaṇun ūḍī jāy.
āhāhāhāhāhā!
vāt chhe.
utpād- vyay ne dhrauvya. chhae dravyamān āhā... hā! ā kāī vārtā nathī prabhu!
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ā rīte jāṇīne (ātmatattva) anubhavyun chhe. āhā.. hā! enā sansāranā ant āvī gyā. e
antano samay hato. paṇ jayāre e hato evun gnān ne ānand pragaṭayo. ene alpasamayamān sansārano
ant āvī jāy, ene bhavano ant āvī jāy. āhā... hā..! “ā pramāṇe svabhāvathī ja.”
svabhāvathī ja. ek pariṇāmamān traṇalakṣhaṇapaṇun. e svabhāvathī ja chhe. āhāhāhā!
(pariṇāmonī paramparāmān.) ” paramparā pariṇāmanī āhā... hā! have ekavār madhyasthī (thaīne)
sāmbhaḷe to kharā, bāpu! shenā virodh karo chho, bhāī! ‘ā pramāṇe svabhāvathī ja trilakṣhaṇ pariṇām
paddhatimān (pariṇāmonī paramparāmān) “vartutun dravya.” chhe? have traṇyamān vartutun dravya. “svabhāvane nahi
atikramatun hovāthī.” evun je dravya svabhāvathī ja trilakṣhaṇ. āvo je svabhāv trilakṣhaṇ pariṇām
paddhatinī paramparāmān vartutun dravya “svabhāv ne nahi atikramatun hovāthī.” āhā...! e (dravya)
svabhāvane oḷaṅgatun nathī. samajāy chhe? “sattvane trilakṣhaṇ ja anumodavun.” sattva eṭale satdravya.
olun hatun pariṇāmanun trilakṣhaṇ have ahīnyān dravyane trilakṣhaṇ (kahayun.) dravyane trilakṣhaṇ anumodavun
olun pariṇāmanun hatun. ethī dravyane trilakṣhaṇ ja anumodavun. āhā... hā! ‘anumodavun’ no artha karyo
ke ā rīte jayāre dravyasvabhāv trilakṣhaṇavāḷun laīne je dravyadraṣhṭi thāy ene ānandathī mānya atīndriy
ānandanā vedanathī ene mānya rākhavun. āhā... hā... hā.. hā!