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mumukShu- Aj to umarAlAkI yAtrA...

samAdhAna- gurudevakA vahAn janme. bharatakShetrake mahAbhAgya. bharatakShetrakI ek mahAn vibhUti, bharatake bejoD ratna gurudev jagatamen padhAre the. unakI vANImen chamatkAr, unake AtmAmen-gnAnamen-chamatkAr bharA thA.

mumukShu- himmatabhAIne thoDI gurudevakI mahimA, us bhUmikI mahimA-janma bhUmikI mahimA sunAyI. himmatabhAIne das-pandrah minaT achchhA vaktavya diyA. gurudevakI janma bhUmikI mahimA bahut achchhI gAyI.

mumukShu- gurudevakI janma bhUmi hai, usakI dhUlI bhI dhanya hai. suvarNapurIkI dhUl bhI.

samAdhAna- unake upakArako kyA gAnA? bachapanamen ve oDhate the. jharIkI harI TopI gurudev oDhate the. aisI makhamalakI. jharIkA pahanAvA vaDAke darabAramen-se AyA thA, vah gurudevane pahanA thA. sar par paghaDI bAndhI thI. do jan chamvar Dhote the. yah gangAbahinako pUchhA thA. do jan hAthIkI ambADI par chamvar Dhote the. is prakAr gurudevane dIkShA lI thI. gangAbahan kal Aye the, ve kahate the. unako pUchhA thA. jo jan chamvar Dhote the. aur jharIkA pahanAvA vaDAke darabAramen-se AyA thA. aur sar par paghaDI bAndhI thI.

mumukShu- ek ... bhoLAbhAI the aur ek premachanda lakShmIchanda, lAThIvAle lekin gaDhaDAvAle, ye do jan chamvar Dhote the. ...

samAdhAna- gangAbahan to bechAre rote the.

mumukShu- gurudev svAdhyAy mandiramen chakkar lagA rahe ho tab hAthIkI ambADI ityAdi batAye ki ye yah hai, ye yah hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI Apako jo gurudevake prati bhakti hai, vaisI ham sabako..

samAdhAna- karanA ek hI hai. dev-guru-shAstrakI mahimA. gurudevakI janma jayanti is bAr bahut achchhI (manAyI gayI). Ap sabake bhAv the aur ye sab yahAn sonagaDhamen bahut sundar ho gayA. merA to ThIk hai, main to unakA dAs hUn. Ap sabakI bhAvanA thI.

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mumukShu- ApakI bAt sachchI hai, gurudevane hamako AgnA kI hai ki ham mAtAjIke prati jitanI bhAvanA bhAye aur jitanI unakI sharaN le sake utanA lenA, aisI gurudevakI hamen AgnA hai.

mumukShu- phir bhI kam hai, phir bhI kam hai. kabhI bhI kaho. ham kuchh nahIn karate hain. hamAre jo bhI alpa bhAv hain, use Apake pAs vyakta karate hain. ata Ap saharSha svIkRuti dIjiye aur ham sabako...

samAdhAna- main to usamen kyA kahUn? merA svAsthya aisA hai. Ap logonkI jaisI ichchhA aur bhAvanA ho. bAkI gurudevakA manAye usakA mujhe Ananda hai.

mumukShu- Aj bhAvanA bhAte hain ki gurudevakI sUryakIrti tIrthankarakI yahAn sthApanA karanI.

samAdhAna- achchhI bhAvanA hai. sab bole, koI kuchh rAshi bhI bole.

mumukShu- vaise to shAstramen to AtA hI hai. bhAvi tIrthankar..

samAdhAna- shAstramen to AtA hai. tIn kAlake tIrthankaronkI sthApanA to AtI hai.

mumukShu- bahut samayase vichAr A rahe the. Aj kahA, bolUn.

samAdhAna- shAstramen AtA hai, tIn kAlake tIrthankaronkI pratiShThA hotI hai, sthApanA hotI hai. parantu ye abhI vartamAn sanyogamen... parantu bhAvanA to achchhI karanI. aur vah bhAvanA pUrI ho, aisI sabakI ichchhA hai.

mumukShu- ab aisA honevAlA hai ki jo jIegA vah dekhenge, gurudevake shabda hai.

samAdhAna- gurudevakI yahAn bhAvi tIrthankarake rUpamen sthApanA ho, usake jaisA UnchA, uchchase uchcha hai. ve svayam yahAn virAje hain.

mumukShu- ... Anese pahale mujhe bAt kI, mainne kahA, bahut achchhA vichAr hai. Apake AshiSh hamen prApta ho gaye.

samAdhAna- bharat chakravartIne sthApanA kI thI.

mumukShu- log jAne ki yahAn aise santa vichare the aur bhaviShyamen jo tIrthankar honevAle hain. tIrthankarakI vANI to us vakta sunane milegI, parantu yahAn bhI tIrthankarakI vANI barasatI thI.

samAdhAna- tIrthankar jaisI hI vANI barasatI thI. aisI joradAr barasatI thI ki jisamen akelI amRutadhArA hI barasatI thI.

mumukShu- mRut AtmA jIvit ho jAya.

samAdhAna- jAgRut ho jAya.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! pUjya gurudevakA nandIshvar jinAlayamen jo ... bhAvanA hai, usake

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liye jagadIshabhAIke putra jIgishabhAIkI or-se ek lAkh rUpayekI ghoShaNA kI jAtI hai. Age bhI baDh sakate hain. ek lAkh rUpayA.

samAdhAna- sabakI bhAvanA gurudevake prati... chattArI mangalan, arihantA mangalan, sAhU mangalan, kevalipaNatto dhammo mangalan. chattArI loguttamA, arihantA loguttamA, siddhA loguttamA, sAhU loguttamA, kevalipaNatto dhammo loguttamA.

chattArI sharaNan pavajjAmi, arihantA sharaNan pavajjAmi, siddhA sharaNan pavajjAmi, kevalI paNatto dhammo sharaNan pavajjAmi.

chAr sharaN, chAr mangal, chAr uttam kare je, bhavasAgarathI tare te sakaL karmano ANe anta. mokSha taNA sukh le anant, bhAv dharIne je guN gAye, te jIv tarIne muktie jAya. sansAramAnhI sharaN chAr, avar sharaN nahIn koI. je nar-nArI Adare tene akShay avichal pad hoya. angUThe amRut varase labdhi taNA bhaNDAra. guru gautamane samarIe to sadAy manavAnchhit phal dAtA.

samAdhAna- .. svayamko puruShArtha karanA bAkI rahatA hai. gurudevane antaramen chaitanyaratna pragaT karake unhen antaramen shrutakI labdhi pragaT huyI. sabako ekadam jaise mUsalAdhAr barasAt barase utanA diyA hai. antaramen karanA svayamko hai. gurudevako to ham kyA karen aur kyA na karen. jitanA karen utanA kam hai. unakI pUjanA, vandanA kyA karen? gurudevane bahut diyA hai.

gurudevane ek hI mArga batAy hai ki tU AtmAko bhinna jAna. gnAyak AtmAko pahachAna. ek hI karanA hai. sabako ek hI dhyey rakhanA hai. mArga ek hI hai. usake liye vichAr, vAnchan Adi ho, parantu mArga ek hI hai. dhyey to ek hI rakhanA hai ki chaitanyadravyako tU pahachAna. chaitanyadravya kis svarUp hai? usake guN, usakI paryAy use tU pahachAn aur ek shAshvat chaitanyadravya par dRuShTi kar, usImen dRuShTi sthApit kara. is vibhAv jo dRuShTi anAdikI dRuShTi hai, us parase uThAkar dRuShTiko dravya par lagA de. jo shAshvat astitva hai, us par dRuShTi sthApit kar aur usImen-se sab pragaT hotA hai. svabhAvamen-se svabhAvaparyAy pragaT hotI hai. vibhAv par dRuShTi karane-se usamen-se pragaT nahIn hotA.

dRuShTi bAhar to bhI bAharase jisamen nahIn hai, usamen-se nahIn AtA hai, jisamen hai usamen-se pragaT hotA hai. isaliye chaitanya par dRuShTi kar to usImen-se sab pragaT hotA hai. us par dRuShTi, gnAn, lInatA sab usImen karanA hai. AtmA svabhAvase nirmal hai. usakI nirmalatAkA use khyAl nahIn hai. nirmalatAkI yathArtha pratIti karake ye jo vibhAv

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ho rahA hai usamen-se puruShArthako palaTakar apanI or puruShArtha karanA vahI jIvanakA kartavya hai, karanA vah hai. usake liye dev-guru-shAstrane jo kiyA hai, use hRudayamen rakhanI, unakI mahimA hRudayamen rakhanI aur ek AtmA kaise pahachAnA jAy, bas, gnAyak AtmAmen hI sab bharA hai. nivRuttasvarUp AtmAmen hI sab bharA hai. usake Ashrayamen-se hI sab pragaT hotA hai. ek chaitanyakA Alamban karane-se usake Alambanamen-se sab pragaT hotA hai. usamen-se svAnubhUti, nirvikalpa dashA sab usamen-se pragaT hotA hai. aisI bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT karake kShaN-kShaNamen main chaitanya hUn, yah main nahIn hUn. chaitanya hUn, usIkI mahimA, usIkA raTan bArambAr usakA abhyAsak karanA chAhiye. karanA yahI hai.

mumukShu- pUre jIvanamen sab jIvonko yahI ek mAtra karanA hai?

samAdhAna- karanekA dhyey to ek hI hai. karanekA ek hai. kuchh bhinna-bhinna nahIn karanA hai. kahIn paryAy bhinna karanI, yah bhinna karanA, vah bhinna karanA aisA nahIn hai. dhyey ek hI hai. ek Atma svabhAv par dRuShTi kare to usamen-se ananta guNakI jo paryAy hai vah pragaT hotI hai. use bhinna-bhinna karane nahIn jAnA paDatA athavA use aisI AkulatA karanekI AvashyakatA nahIn hai. ek chaitanyako pahachAne to usamen-se ananta guN-paryAy pragaT hotI hai. ek chaitanya par dRuShTi sthApit kare to usamen ananta gnAn, darshan, chAritra, Ananda jo ananta guN hain, vah sab usImen-se pragaT hote hain. karanA ek hai. usake liye yah sab shrutakA chintavan, manan, lagan, mahimA Adi sab ek ke liye karanA hai.

ekako jAnA usane sab jAnA. ek gnAt nahIn huA to (usane kuchh nahIn jAnA). isaliye ek chaitanya kaise pahachAnamen Aye, vah karanA hai. bhagavAnako jAne vah apane AtmAko jAne. bhagavAn kaise hain? jaisA bhagavAnakA AtmA vaisA hI apanA AtmA hai. isaliye AtmAko pahachAnanA. ek hI karanA hai. usake liye usakA abhyAs ananta kAlase kiyA nahIn hai isaliye use durlabh ho gayA hai. bArambAr usIkA abhyAs karanA jaisA hai. din-rAt usIkI khaTak, usakI lInatA vahI karane jaisA hai. usIkA vichAr, usIkA chintavan, vah sab karane jaisA hai. karanA ek hI hai.

mumukShu- gurudevakA upakAr to hai hI, vah ananta upakAr hai. parantu sAth-sAth visheSh mArgadarshanake liye hamen ApakI AvashyakatA hai. ata Ap bhI hamen ananta upakAr kar rahe hain aur vah ananta upakAr ham bhI ichchhate hain ki paryAy-paryAyamen vah upakAr baDhatA jAy aur hamen Atma-prAptikI bhAvanA ho, aise AshIrvAd ham par sadA barasate rahen, aisI bhAvanA hai.

samAdhAna- samyagdarshanakA mArga gurudevane batAyA. pUrvamen jIvane bahut kiyA parantu

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ek samyagdarshan prApta nahIn kiyA hai. vah apUrva hai. bAkI sab kiyA hai. aur us apUrva samyagdarshanakA svarUp gurudevane batAyA hai. bAharakA sab kiyA hai, parantu bhavakA abhAv jo samyagdarshan pragaT ho to hI hotA hai. vah samyagdarshan apUrva hai, vah svAnubhUti apUrva hai.

lakShaNase AtmAko pahachAnakar, vibhAvakA lakShaN aur svabhAv lakShaN bhinna karake antaramen svabhAv lakShaN pahachAnakar usamen dRuDhatA karake apUrva aisA samyagdarshan prApta ho to bhavakA abhAv ho. aur vahI karane jaisA hai. gurudevane vahI kahA hai. bAharakA bahut kiyA hai, parantu ek samyagdarshan binA bhavakA abhAv nahIn huA hai, sukhakI prApti nahIn huyI hai, AnandakI prApti nahIn huyI hai. andarase gnAnase bharapUr AtmA bharA hai, vah gnAyakadashA prApta nahIn huyI hai.

svayam lakShaNase pahachAnakar dravyako grahaN kare. lakShaNase lakShya jo dravya, use pahachAne to usakI pratIti dRuDh karake usamen lInatA karake bhedagnAn karake vah prApta karane jaisA hai. aur gurudevane vah batAyA hai. dev-guru-shAstra jo kahate hain usakI mahimA karake, lakShya jo AtmA use grahaN karanA, jo anAdiananta shAshvat hai. vahI karanekA hai.

samyagdarshanake binA jIvane paribhramaN kiyA hai. vah samyagdarshan hI apUrva hai. chaitanyakI jo vibhUti hai usImen-se pragaT hotA hai. vahI karanA hai.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! samyagdarshanakI prApti aur anubhUtike bAremen kuchh kahen.

samAdhAna- kahA to sahI, vahI to kahA. samyagdarshan aur anubhUti donon ek hI hai, koI alag nahIn hai. samyagdarshan jo anAdise jIvane prApta nahIn kiyA hai. andar svAnubhUtikI dashA vah samyagdarshan hai. vibhAv lakShaNako pahachAnakar, svabhAv lakShaNako pahachAnakar svabhAvako pragaT kare aur us svabhAvamen lInatA kare to usamen svAnubhUti prApta hotI hai.

vikalpa TUTakar jo nirvikalpa dashA ho, vah svAnubhUti aur samyagdarshanakA lakShaN hai. aur usImen apUrva Ananda aur apUrva gnAn sab usamen hI prApta hotA hai. bhedagnAnakI dashA prApta karanI ki jisamen-se svAnubhUti prApta hotI hai. aisI sahaj dashA antarase ho to samyagdarshanakI prApti hotI hai. isaliye usIkA abhyAs aur usakI lagan bArambAr bhedagnAn kaise ho, svabhAv kaise pahachAnamen Aye, vahI karanA hai.

mumukShu- aisA hI prApta karaneke liye Apake AshIrvAd..

samAdhAna- karanA vahI hai.

samAdhAna- ... samavasaraNamen (jAte samay) yah bharatakShetramen AtA hogA, sab jAnate honge. bAkI yahAn Ate honge to bhI kisIko darshan nahIn hote hain.

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mumukShu- kisIko bhale na ho, Apako ho jAy to Apake sAth hamako bhI ho jAyagA.

samAdhAna- .. samasavaraNamen jAte hain to mahAvideh kShetra aur bharat kShetra manuShya kShetramen hai to Uparase jAy to unako sab dikhatA hai. bharatakShetra to bIchamen bhI AtA hai. ve to sab jAnate hain. Ate bhI hon, Uparase dekhate hon to bhI sabako dikhAI nahIn detA. gurudev to sab dekhate hain. aur yahAn Ate bhI hain to bhI sabako dekhanA bahut mushkil paDatA hai.

mumukShu- gurudevashrI pahale aise bolate the ki koI dav yahAn Ate nahIn hai. gurudevashrIko kitanA prem thA, Apako bArambAr yAd karate the.

samAdhAna- panchamakAl hai. bAharamen AnA bahut mushkil hotA hai.

mumukShu- ek bakhat Ap aisA kuchh bhAv pragaT karo ki ekadam Utar jAya.

samAdhAna- ... aur aisA ho gayA.

mumukShu- svapnamen bhI

samAdhAna- svapnamen to Ave, parantu svapnakI kyA bAt hai? sapanA to Aye. bahut barasonko sAnnidhya, bahut sAlonkA hai, svapnamen to Aye.

mumukShu- svapnamen to hamen bhI Ate hain, bahut bAr Ate hain.

samAdhAna- svapnamen to bahut Ave.

mumukShu- ...svapnamen sambodhan bhI dete hain. mumukShu- mAtAjIke pAs to devake rUpamen padhAre na. hamen to gurudevake rUpamen Aye aur mAtAjIko devake rUpamen Aye.

mumukShu- aisA. mumukShu- yah nahIn Ate. mumukShu- yah bAt to Apane kuchh alag kI, uShAbahana. yah Apane khAs bAt kahI.

mumukShu- apane to gurudevake rUpamen Aye na. muumukShu- vah to sachchI bAt hai. ... vah to sachchI bAt hai. bahin bole na, kisIko dikhate nahIn. bahinako dikhate hain. ... ham to yahAn hAjir rahenge, ek bAr to darshan karane hain. hamArI yah nAD bhI jAtI ho to ham de denge, hamen darshan karavA do. merI to bilakUl ThIk hai. Apako to Ate hain jarUra. bAt nikal gayI na, uShAbahan, Apane barAbar khulAsA kar diyA ki unako Ate hain.

mumukShu- svapnamen to sabako Aye, parantu kis rUpamen Ate hain?

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samAdhAna- samavasaraNamen gurudev divyadhvani sunaneko jAte hain. ve to devake rUpamen jAte hain samavasaraNamen.

mumukShu- bole na ki Ate hain, kisIko dikhate nahIn. vah to barAbar spaShTa ho gayI bAta.

mumukShu- mAtAjI! gurudev ApashrIke bAremen pharamAte the ki jab ApashrIko anubhUti prApta huyI, tab kShAyik samyagdarshan lekar hI chhUTakArA hai, aisA ugra puruShArtha ApakA thA. aisA gurudev kaI bAr pharamAte the. parantu us samayakI ApakI jo us prakArakI bhedavignAnakI dhArA thI, usakI thoDI-sI prasAdI hamako mil sake to baDI...

samAdhAna- bhItaramen apratihatadhArAkI ugratA hotI hai to aisI bhAvanA AtI hai. koI bhedagnAnakI dhArA ugra hove, apaDivAhI-apratihat dhArA usamen aisI bhAvanA ugra (hotI hai). ugra dhArA, bhedagnAnakI sahaj dhArA.