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mumukShu- gnAnIke Ashrayamen rahe hue jIvako gnAnI jarUr samajhAte hain, aisA shAstramen AtA hai. shrImadajIne bhI likhA hai. kahIn aTakatA ho to. to ham kahAn aTake hai?

samAdhAna- vah aTakatA hai apane puruShArthakI mandatA-se. apanI taiyArI ho to svayam samajhe binA rahatA hI nahIn. gurudevane kitane upadeshakI dhArA barasAyI hai. nirantar spaShTa kar-karake diyA hai. kahIn bhUl na rahe itanA samajhAyA hai. parantu apane puruShArthakI mandatAke kAraN aTakA hai, dUsarA koI kAraN nahIn hai. apanI mandatA (hai). gurudev kahate the, "nij nayananI ALase nirakhyA nahIn harine'. apane nayanakI Alasake kAraN svayam andar dekhatA nahIn hai. apanA hI kAraN hai. sune, vichAr kare, vAnchan kare, parantu antaramen dekhatA nahIn hai vah apanA kAraN hai. apanI Alas hai.

mumukShu- gnAnI sambandhit AtA hai ki gnAnIko Asakti hai, parantu ruchi nahIn hai. to Asakti aur ruchimen kyA pharka hai? hamen bhI Asakti nahIn ho sakatI?

samAdhAna- gnAnIko ruchi nahIn hai, parantu Asakti hai, aisA AtA hai na?

mumukShu- hAn, vah AtA hai. kalake shIlapAhuDamen AyA thA.

samAdhAna- ruchi nahIn hai, ruchi uTh gayI hai. bhedagnAnakI dhArA pragaT ho gayI hai. ruchi parapadArthakI sarva prakAr-se uTh gayI hai. chaitanya taraphakI pariNati ekadam pragaT ho gayI hai. parantu Asakti (hai). abhI use utanI vItarAg dashA nahIn hai, isaliye amuk jAtakA rAgakA, dveShakA pariNAm utpanna hotA hai. ruchi chhUT gayI hai. ruchi kaisI? samyagdarshanakI bhUmikAkI ruchi nahIn, ye to samyagdarshanamen jise ruchi kahate hain, samyagdarshanake sAth ruchi-pratIti kahanemen AtI hai, aisI ruchi use samyagdarshanamen palaT gayI hai. ata mAtra Asakti hai.

jignAsukI bhUmikAmen abhI use ruchi jo yathArtha rUpase, jo samyagdarshanamen ruchi-pratIti hotI hai, vaisI nahIn hai, use jignAsAkI ruchi hai. use to ruchi evan Asakti donon khaDe hain. ise to ruchi palaT gayI hai. Asakti mAtra khaDI hai. jignAsukI bhUmikAmen ruchi, Asakti donon hai. vah mandatA karatA rahatA hai. usakI bhAvanA karatA hai, abhyAs karatA hai.

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mumukShu- mandatA hai yA viparItatA ginanI?

samAdhAna- mandatA kahanemen AtI hai. gurudevane bahut samajhAyA hai, svayamne vichAr kiyA hai. mandatA hai. AchArya, gurudev upadeshamen kahe ki itanA upadesh deneke bAd bhI tU jAgRut nahIn ho rahA hai, terI kitanI viparItatA hai. aisA upadeshamen kahe. upadeshamen aisA Aye. upadeshamen aisA kahe, upadeshamen aisA Aye. apanI mandatAke kAraN svayam aTakA hai.

itanA gurudevakA upadesh, AchArya itanA kahe phir bhI tU usImen paDA hai, yah terI kitanI viparItatA hai. viparItatAkA artha yah ki terI kitanI mandatA hai ki tU jAgRut nahIn ho rahA hai. usakI pratIti-ruchi-jUThI hai, aisA usakA artha nahIn hai. mandatA hai.

samyagdRuShTiko Asakti kahanemen AtI hai, parantu use ananta TUT gayA hai. ananta sansArakI jo ekatvabuddhi, anantatA TUT gayI hai. ab alpa rahA hai use Asakti mAtra kahanemen AtA hai. use vAstavamen kuchh Adarane yogya nahIn hai. use shraddhAmen-se to sab nikal gayA hai. karanA, karavAnA, anumodan sab shraddhAmen-se chhUT gayA hai. use kisI bhI prakArakI Asakti usakI shraddhAmen nahIn hai. vibhAvakA usane nau-nau koTi-se tyAg kiyA hai ki ye Adarane yogya nahIn hai, anumodan karane yogya nahIn hai, usamen juDane yogya nahIn hai, kuchh nahIn hai. utanI usakI joradAr pratIti gnAyakadhArAkI hai ki use sab kuchh chhUT gayA hai. ananta-ananta ras usakA TUT gayA hai. usakI shraddhAmen utanA bal hai ki usakA tyAg kiyA hai. usakI dRuShTi, pUrI dishA svarUp taraph chalI gayI hai. svayamko ho nihAratA hai. alpa par or jAtA hai to dRuShTi apanI or chalI gayI hai. lekin abhI usamen khaDA hai isaliye use utanI asthiratAkI Asakti hai. ekatvabuddhikI Asakti nahIn hai, vah TUT gayI hai.

shraddhAmen-se usakA pUrA pariNaman chakra chaitanya svabhAv taraph chalA gayA hai. vibhAv taraph usakI pariNatikA chakra thA vah svabhAv or chalA gayA hai. abhI alpa asthiratA hai. usake amuk jo bhav hote hain, usakI asthiratAkI pariNati (hai). ananta ras TUT gayA. ananta bhavakA jo thA vah anantatA TUT gayI hai.

mumukShu- tIvratA karaneke liye kyA karanA?

samAdhAna- tIvratA karaneke liye svayamko hI karanA hai. apanI jarUrat apaneko lage ki mujhe mere svabhAvakI jarUrat hai. ye koI jarUrat nahIn hai, ye sab jarUrat binAkA hai. apanI jarUrat lage ki mujhe mere svabhAvakI jarUrat hai. aur mujhe svabhAv chAhiye. usakI jarUrat hai. usamen hI sab bharA hai. usakI yadi jarUrat lage to usakI tIvrat ho.

aise manuShya bhavamen aise gurudev mile, isaliye tujhe palaTA karake hI chhUTakArA hai. is tarah apanI jarUrat lage to usakI ruchikI tIvratA ho. ekatvabuddhi nahIn TUTatI

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hai. use toDanekA abhyAs kare. bArambAr-bArambAr vah kare to svayam jAgRut hue binA rahatA hI nahIn; usakA abhyAs kare to.

bAlak ho vah chalanA sIkhe, aisA kare, vaisA kare. bAlak bhI aisA karatA hai. vaise bArambAr vah samajhapUrvak abhyAs kare ki main gnAyak hUn. vah to bAlak hai, samajhatA nahIn hai. vaise apanI or svayam bAr-bAr abhyAs kare ki ye kuchh nahIn chAhiye. gurudevane kahA ki tU chaitanya hai, us chaitanyako pahichAn, usamen tU lIn ho. vahI karane jaisA hai. bArambAr usakI jarUrat lage to vah karatA hI rahe. usamen-se usakA phal Aye binA rahatA hI nahIn, yadi yathArtha abhyAs kare to.

mumukShu- ... guphA tak jAnA ho to savArI kAm Aye, phir use chhoDakar andar jAnA paDatA hai. vaise dhAraNAgnAnako chhoDakar andar kaise kUdanA?

samAdhAna- vah abhyAs karatA rahe. usakI pariNatikA palaTA svayam hI khAtI hai. svayam abhyAs karatA hai.

mumukShu- kabhI lagatA hai, sAmAnya menDhakako samyagdarshan ho jAtA hai. to vah kaisI buddhi hai?

samAdhAna- usakI pariNati utanI joradAr shurU hotI hai ki antarmuhUrtamen palaT jAtI hai. antarmuhUrtamen utanA ugra prayatna, ugra pariNati aisI hotI hai ki ek antarmuhUrtamen palaT jAya. aur kisIko abhyAs karate-karate palaTatI hai. chaitanyakA chakra, pUrI dishA jo par or thI, usakI pUrI dishA antarmuhUrtamen palaT jAtI hai. upayog abhI thoDA bAhar jAtA hai, parantu kShaNabharake liye to use nirvikalpa dashAmen pUrA chakra apanI taraph palaT jAtA hai. vah chaitanyakI aisI koI adabhut shakti hai. achintya chaitanyadev hI aisA hai ki palaTe to apane-se antarmuhUrtamen palaT jAtA hai. aur na palaTe to ananta kAl vyatIt ho jAtA hai. aisA hai.

mumukShu- shAstrakA abhyAs, satsang, vairAgya ityAdi sAdhak kis prakAr-se? aur bAdhak kis prakAr-se?

samAdhAna- gurudevane bahut samajhAyA hai. gurudevane to mArga batAyA hai. vastu svarUp kyA hai? sAdhak kyA? bAdhak kyA? sab batAyA hai. parantu vah sAdhak to jabatak antaramen svarUpako samajhatA nahIn hai, antaramen sthir nahIn hotA hai, isaliye vah bIchamen AtA hai. bAkI vah aisA mAne ki ye sab sarvasva hai aur isImen dharma hai, aisA mAne to, sarvasva mAne to vah nukasAnakartA hai.

bAkI aisA mAne ki ye to rAg hai. vah rAg kahIn AtmAkA svarUp nahIn hai. AtmA to usase judA aur atyant bhinna hai. AtmA to vItarAgasvarUp hai. shraddhA to

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usakI hI karanI hai, dhyey to usIkA rakhanA hai ki main sarva prakArake rAg-se bhinna hI hUn. merA chaitanya svabhAv bhinna aur ye bhinna hain. parantu bIchamen shrutakA abhyAs, satsang, vairAgya Adi mumukShukI bhUmikAmen use Aye binA nahIn rahatA. isaliye vah bIchamen hotA hai. jabatak vah samajhatA nahIn hai, samyagdarshan nahIn huA hai aur samyagdarshan huA ho to bhI bIchamen vah shubhabhAv to Ate hain. samyagdarshanakI bhUmikAmen use shraddhAmen-se chhUT gayA hai. main to vItarAg svarUp hUn, gnAyak hUn, rAg svabhAv kahIn AtmAkA nahIn hai. rAg-se AtmA atyant bhinna hai. samyagdarshanamen to use vah pratIti ho gayI hai. svAnubhUti ho gayI hai. rAg vah kahIn AtmAkA svarUp nahIn hai, vah to vibhAv hai. isaliye use bAdhak kahanemen AtA hai.

vibhAv hai isaliye bAdhak hai, parantu bIchamen Aye binA nahIn rahatA. isaliye ashubh pariNAm-se bachaneko shubhabhAv Ate hain. svabhAvakI jisase pahichAn ho aisA shrutakA abhyAs, gurukI vANIkA shravaN, jinendra devakI bhakti Adi sab bIchamen Aye binA nahIn rahatA. bIchamen AtA hai to bhI jab nirvikalpa dashA hotI hai, vah sab vikalpakI jAl hai, isaliye usamen aTakanA nahIn hai ki itanA shrutakA abhyAs kar lUn ki yah kar lUn, usamen yadi ruke to vah rAg AtmAkA svarUp nahIn hai. yadi nirvikalpa dashA hotI ho to vah sab chhUT jAtA hai. usamen vah nahIn rahatA. vItarAg dashA hotI hai. usamen rAg-shubhabhAv rakhane jaisA nahIn hai. vItarAg honA vahI AtmAkA svarUp hai. dhyey to vahI rakhanekA hai.

munionko kahanemen AtA hai na ki shubh AcharaN yA ashubh AcharaNarUp karma, vah to vibhAv avasthA hai. to niShkarma avasthAmen muni kuchh na kare, AcharaN na ho to ve kahIn asharaN nahIn ho jAte, ve to svarUpamen amRut pIte hain. jo svarUpakI sAdhanA aur nirvikalpa dashA hotI ho aur chAritrakI lInatA, nirvikalpa dashA hotI ho, chAritrakI lInatA hotI ho aur vah chhUT jAy to vah to AtmAkA svarUp hI hai, vItarAg dashA hai. unhen vah hotA ho aur usamen ruke to vah to bAdhak hai. parantu ashubh- se bachaneke liye vah shubhabhAv bIchamen Aye binA nahIn rahate. prArambhamen bhI Ate hain. samyagdarshan huA, abhI vItarAg dashA nahIn huyI hai to AtA hai. munionko bhI bIchamen hotA hai. parantu chhaThaven-sAtaven guNasthAnamen jhulate muni jab bAhar Ate hain tab shubhabhAv hote hain. antaramen sthir hote hain to nirvikalpa dashAmen to chhUT jAtA hai. isaliye koI apekShA-se use bIchamen AtA hai aur vah apanA svarUp nahIn hai, vibhAvabhAv hai, isaliye vah bAdhak hai.

mumukShuko to dhyey vah rakhanekA hai ki main vItarAg svabhAv hUn, main chaitanya hUn. ye

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sab merA svarUp nahIn hai. to bhI us bhUmikAmen shrutakA abhyAs, guru-vANIkA shravaN, guru-sevA, guru-bhakti, jinendra bhakti ityAdi (sab hotA hai). jinhonne vah svarUp pragaT kiyA, aise panch parameShThI bhagavantonkI bhakti use Aye binA nahIn rahatI. usakI shraddhAmen aisA honA chAhiye ki ye rAg merA svarUp nahIn hai, main rAg-se atyant bhinna hUn.

parantu jis svarUpakI svayamko prIti ho, vah jisane pragaT kiyA, us par use bhakti Aye binA nahIn rahatI. aur pratham bhUmikAmen usakA abhyAs, chintavan, manan kare, AtmAkA svarUp pragaT karaneke liye. merI Ananda dashA kaise pragaT ho, isaliye vah bIchamen Aye binA nahIn rahatA. shraddhAmen aisA honA chAhiye ki main isase atyant bhinna hUn. mere svabhAvakI pahichAn kaise ho, aise shraddhAmen honA chAhiye. parantu vah AcharaNamen Aye binA nahIn rahatA. rAgadashA hai tabataka.

is kShaN vItarAg huA jAtA ho, ye chhUT jAtA ho, to vItarAg dashA hI AdaraNIy hai. vikalpakI jAl chhUT jAtI ho to nirvikalpa dashA-Ananda aur svAnubhUtikI dashA hI AdaraNIy hai.

mumukShu- AcharaNamen Ave, parantu usakA niShedh karanekI... jo shraddhAmen paDA hai, isaliye usakA niShedh hotA rahatA hai. to jaisA use bAharakA niShedh shraddhAmen hai, vaisA use vikalpamen bhI niShedh AtA hai?

samAdhAna- shraddhAmen use kShaN-kShaNamen (aisA hotA hai ki) main isase bhinna hUn. aisA vikalpamen niShedh nahIn, shraddhAmen niShedh huA isaliye sab niShedh A gayA. use shraddhAmen atyant niShedh hai. koI apekShA-se AdaraNIy nahIn hai. usakI shraddhAmen sarva prakAr-se vah niShidhya hI hai.

vikalpamen to aisA hotA hai ki main vItarAg ho jAUn to mujhe ye kuchh nahIn chAhiye. aisA bhAvanAmen hai. ye vikalpa jAl mujhe chAhiye hI nahIn, aisA usakI bhAvanAmen rahatA hai. bAkI shraddhAmen (aisA hotA hai ki) ye merA svarUp hI nahIn hai. vikalpamen arthAt use buddhimen to aisA rahatA hai ki ye kuchh Acharane yogya nahIn hai, parantu shraddhAmen to pariNatirUp rahatA hai. vah to ek gnAnamen rahatA hai. pariNatirUp aisA hI rahatA hai ki main isase atyant bhinna hUn, aisI bhedagnAnakI pariNati kShaN-kShaN nirantar vartatI hai ki chAhe so rAg Aye, main usase atyant bhinna hUn. usakI pariNati use kShaN-kShaNamen sahaj rahatI hai. parantu ashubh pariNAm-se bachaneko shubhabhAv (bIchamen Ate hain).

jo svabhAv svayamne pragaT kiyA, vah jisane pragaT kiyA aise dev-guru-shAstra par use bhakti Aye binA nahIn rahatI. gnAnamen bhI use khyAl hai ki ye kuchh Adarane yogya nahIn hai. vikalpamen aur gnAnamen aisA hai ki donon Adarane yogya nahIn hai. mAtra AcharaNamen

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AtA hai.

mumukShu- vachanAmRutamen AtA hai ki rAgakA ras phikA paD jAtA hai. rAg to rahatA hai, lekin samyagdRuShTiko ras phikA paD jAtA hai.

samAdhAna- use, rAgakA svAmItva (nahIn hai). rAg merA svarUp nahIn hai, asthiratAkA rAg khaDA rahatA hai, parantu rAg par prIti nahIn hai. ye rAg AdaraNIy nahIn hai, yah merA svarUp nahIn hai. main to vItarAgasvarUp hUn. isaliye rAgakA ras phikA paD jAtA hai. usakI ekatvabuddhi TUT jAtI hai.

ye rAg merA svarUp hI nahIn hai. usase atyant bhinna pariNati rahatI hai. usamen ananta ras nikal jAtA hai. usakI svAmitva buddhi, usakA ras (TUT gayA hai). rAg khaDA rahe to bhI rAgakA rAg nahIn hai. rAg rakhane yogya nahIn hai aur rAg merA svarUp nahIn hai, aisI gnAyak dashA use pratikShaN vartatI hI hai.

jab vaisI pariNati andar ho to vikalpa TUTakar svAnubhUtikI dashA pariNamit ho jAtI hai. rAgakA ras to Utar gayA hai, parantu asthiratAke kAraN vah rAgamen rukhe bhAv- se juDatA hai. use bhedagnAnakI pariNati (chalatI hone-se) bhinna bhAv-se juDatA hai. nyArI pariNati hai.

mumukShu- AtmAmen sukh bharA paDA hai, to usakA nirNay karanekI rIt kyA hai?

samAdhAna- AtmAmen sukh hai. AchAryadevane, gurudevane anek prakAr-se usakA svabhAv batAkar anek yukti-se, dalIl-se AchAryadev kahate hain, gurudev kahate hain ki ham svAnubhUti karake kahate hain ki AtmAmen sukh hai. phir usakA nirNay karanA vah to apane hAthakI bAt hai, nirNay kaise karanA vaha.

usakI anek yuktiyon-se, dalIlon-se sarva prakAr-se. Agam, yukti aur svAnubhUti, sarva prakAr-se gurudev aur AchArya kahate hain. gurudevane to upadesh dekar bahut spaShTa (kiyA hai), sab sUkShma prakAr-se apUrva rItase samajhAyA hai. nirNay to svayamko hI karanA hai.

mArga batAye, koI mArga par jA rahA ho use mArga batAye, chalanA to svayamko hai. nirNay to svayamko hI karanA hai. jo sukhakI ichchhA karatA hai, jahAn-tahAn sukhakI kalpanA karanevAlA hai. kisI bhI bhAvommen, kisI bhI rAgamen, kisI bhI kAryamen jo sukhakI kalpanA karanevAlA, sukhakI kalpanA karake jo sukh mAnatA hai, vah sukhakI kalpanA karanevAlA svayam sukhasvabhAvI hai. isaliye kalpanA karatA hai. jo sahaj sukhasvabhAvI, jo sahaj Ananda svabhAvI hai. apanI or dRuShTi nahIn hai, sahajarUp pariNamatA nahIn hai. jo anyamen sukhakI kalpanA karanevAlA hai, jo chaitanya hai, jahAn-tahAn sukhakI kalpanA (karanevAlA hai), jahAn sukh nahIn hai, vahAn kalpanA karake sukhako svayam vedatA hai, sukh mAn rahA

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hai, vah svayam sukhasvabhAvI hai. isIliye sukh mAn rahA hai.

vah jaD nahIn mAnatA hai. sukh svabhAv apanA hai, isaliye jahAn-tahAn Arop karake sukhakI kalpanA karatA rahatA hai. vah svayam sukhakA bhaNDAr hai, isaliye paramen sukhakI kalpanA karatA hai. parantu paramen sukh nahIn hai. dRuShTi viparIt hai, bAhar sukh mAnA hai. andar apanA svatasiddha, anAdiananta sahaj siddha svabhAv sukh apanA hai. jaise gnAn apanA hai, jo jAnan svabhAv har jagah jAnanevAlA hI hai, vaise sukhasvabhAv bhI sahaj svarUp-se apanA hI hai. isaliye jahAn-tahAn kalpanA karake shAnti mAnatA hai, sukh mAnatA hai. vah svayam hI mAn rahA hai.

jaise jAnanevAlA har jagah jAnanarUp hI rahatA hai, vaise sukhakI kalpanA svayam hI kar rahA hai. vah svayam sukhakA bhaNDAr hai, vahI sukhakI kalpanA karanevAlA hai. isaliye sukh apanemen rahA hai. isaliye jahAn-tahAn (sukhakI kalpanA karatA hai). AchAryadev anek bAr kahate hain, gurudev kahate hain, sukh apanemen hai. mRugakI nAbhimen kastUrI (hai). (kastUrIkI) sugandha har jagah A rahI hai, use chAron or DhUnDhatA hai.

vaise svayam sukhasvabhAvI sukhakI kalpanA jahAn-tahAn bAharamen kar rahA hai. vah svayam hI sukhakA bhaNDAr svatasiddha Ananda vastu vah svayam hI hai. vah svatasiddha hai, parantu vah jahAn-tahAn mAn rahA hai. gurudevane batAyA hai, AchAryadevane batAyA hai.

mumukShu- kalpanAke pIchhe sukh paDA hai.

samAdhAna- kalpanAke pIchhe sukhasvabhAv apanA hai. vah svayam kalpanA kar rahA hai. jahAn-tahAn khAkar, pI kar, ghUmakar, jahAn-tahAn mAnamen, isamen-usamen yahAn-vahAn sukh mAnanevAlA vah sukhasvabhAvI svayam hai.

mumukShu- sukh kahIn dUr nahIn hai. samAdhAna- sukh dUr nahIn hai. svayam, apanemen sahaj svabhAvamen sukh hai. vikalpakI jAl aur vibhAvako chhoDe, vikalpa orakI dRuShTi, AkulatA-se vApas muDe, bhedagnAn kare aur svayam nirvikalpa svarUpamen jAy to sukh jo sahaj svabhAv hai, vah sukhakA sAgar apanemen-se pragaT ho aisA hai. vah bAhar kalpanA karatA hai.